UNCUT: Dave Graham - Ali Hulk sit (9B/5.15B)

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  • Опубликовано: 8 янв 2025

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  • @jessharris5858
    @jessharris5858 4 года назад +616

    The endurance, the patience, the pure determination... to hold up that fan for so long. What a hero.

    • @Vacuumhead
      @Vacuumhead 4 года назад +2

      HAHAHA I love you ...

    • @vashusan1984
      @vashusan1984 4 года назад +3

      Your comment is what "winning" looks like. Bravo Madame.

    • @Vacuumhead
      @Vacuumhead 4 года назад +2

      @@vashusan1984 Charlie Sheen's life is what "winning" looks like ...

    • @RockClimberAlex
      @RockClimberAlex 2 года назад +2

      If I was Dave Graham, this comment would have bothered me. As I'm not, I instead, laughed my fucking ass off. Hats off!

    • @anthill4623
      @anthill4623 Год назад

      Lol! 😂

  • @kzlindsay1
    @kzlindsay1 4 года назад +486

    ¡SpOiLeR AlErT!
    Allez Count: 47
    Knee-bars placed: 29
    Fan: Runs the entire time
    Dave Graham: Still crushes

    • @edcunningham5562
      @edcunningham5562 4 года назад +30

      He fucking better crush with all that aid

    • @fvux5393
      @fvux5393 4 года назад +15

      You missed the 'tranquilo' counter

    • @unknownboulder1205
      @unknownboulder1205 4 года назад +12

      the guy with the fan definitely has sore shoulders

    • @AlexTighe
      @AlexTighe 4 года назад +1

      Hahaha I can't believe you actually counted the 'allez allez allez'

    • @shoqed
      @shoqed 4 года назад +2

      did you count vengas?

  • @arnsteinkleven
    @arnsteinkleven 4 года назад +234

    Looks like we found your biggest fan.

  • @GeorgeShearin
    @GeorgeShearin 4 года назад +410

    where can I buy the send crew package with the fan guy included

  • @MegaKillerTaco101
    @MegaKillerTaco101 4 года назад +341

    The fan guy is the real MVP here

  • @crisgarcia4400
    @crisgarcia4400 4 года назад +147

    This just might be the hardest aid route ever sent XD

  • @themeatpopsicle
    @themeatpopsicle 4 года назад +79

    As of today I am removing "Let's Go!" from my repertoire and adding "Continue!"

  • @alexenders6839
    @alexenders6839 4 года назад +38

    How many kneebars do you wanna use?
    Dave Graham: Yes

  • @jonathanw6884
    @jonathanw6884 4 года назад +80

    Imagine fighting your way through a boulder problem in a roof for 5 minutes and then someone clips in your harness and tells you that you have to lead climb

  • @jamiemusclip1606
    @jamiemusclip1606 4 года назад +62

    Thought Citro would come rappeling down with the fan at the end.. a pitty

  • @elfriederich
    @elfriederich 4 года назад +80

    Wow that was incredible and awesome to watch, you're a true inspiration, Mr. Fan Guy. Ah and nice climb Dave, well done...

  • @brenttsuji3031
    @brenttsuji3031 4 года назад +44

    damn dave speaks some real good spanish, thats probably how he got the makita fan package

  • @quinnthompson
    @quinnthompson 4 года назад +13

    Wow.. 16+ minutes on the wall.. or hanging from the ceiling. Congrats Dave, incredible effort!
    Props to the send crew and fan guy too!

  • @rollinnackenheim
    @rollinnackenheim 4 года назад +62

    love how he got the biner clipped on his harness but closed it himself

    • @Mike-oz4cv
      @Mike-oz4cv 4 года назад +2

      I think the other guy screwed it shut (or maybe only partially shut) and he just checked again.

    • @nicdes5540
      @nicdes5540 4 года назад +1

      you can see the guy was gonna screw it on, but dave moved to adjust his kneebar so he didn't get the time

    • @Furansowakun
      @Furansowakun 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah I thought the same. The guy could have closed it too

  • @alexbarcovsky4319
    @alexbarcovsky4319 2 года назад +7

    Magnus Midtbo sent this with no kneepads and no fan in half the time. Many forget what an absolute beast on the rock he used to be. The kneepads definetely had to lower the grade at least to 9a+, Ive seen some people who climbed it say this is noticably easier than the original.

    • @nowelsss
      @nowelsss Год назад +11

      Yes but if you do the route smoking 5 joints a day and drinking 2 wine bottles every night, its 9b/+ for sure!🤣

    • @manuelrodriguez5129
      @manuelrodriguez5129 Год назад

      JjjjjJJJAJJJAJJAJJJJJAAJJAJAJAJA
      @@nowelsss

  • @jonathanelter3240
    @jonathanelter3240 4 года назад +3

    that gave me goosebumps - so inspiring to see dave after so many years of climbing still crushing!

  • @DavidReaClimb
    @DavidReaClimb 4 года назад +28

    The climbing to lowering ratio on this climb is of the charts haha
    Sick send!!

  • @petersotherland9230
    @petersotherland9230 4 года назад +12

    Awesome send! Also worlds greatest belay right there, a real stand up job...

  • @thisis27characters
    @thisis27characters 4 года назад +34

    Fan Guy didn't even kneebar once!

  • @audiomystic
    @audiomystic 4 года назад +8

    In addition to the fan, somebody should rappel down to each hand hold and brush it as he climbs. Someone should also be dedicated for blowing on his fingers for extra moisture reduction.

  • @BrunoS1917
    @BrunoS1917 4 года назад +69

    Talk about endurance man, holy shit.

    • @liamd6238
      @liamd6238 4 года назад +5

      he had a knee bar like half the time lmao
      (and obv his endurance is really good, too)

    • @kall3nat0r
      @kall3nat0r 4 года назад +5

      @@liamd6238 But you gotta be really good at knee-baring, too. Otherwise your legs burn through pretty fast :D

    • @jrblackify
      @jrblackify 4 года назад +2

      Graham or the fan guy?

    • @michalskalski1376
      @michalskalski1376 4 года назад +1

      @@jrblackify i love this comment

  • @d3la
    @d3la 4 года назад +10

    and Andrada sent this back in 2007 without kneepads and without fan??? holy shit!

  • @AMM1998
    @AMM1998 4 года назад +163

    pretty sure having a guy plow a fan over each hold is definitely aid.

    • @Safex
      @Safex 4 года назад +106

      Yes, it is known from 2009 that this route is 9b / 6c+ F0 (fan aid)

    • @Murdog83
      @Murdog83 4 года назад +4

      @@Safex Incredible response. One of the best on RUclips!

    • @bizmonkey007
      @bizmonkey007 4 года назад +7

      It’s a little ridiculous. High-level climbers often wait for the most ideal conditions to attempt a project, but having a dude follow you with a fan is a little much.

  • @JDeanMurray
    @JDeanMurray 2 года назад

    Been watching you for a long time Dave. True inspiration in my climbing life. Great to see you enjoying the hell out of life!!

  • @arebalwithacause
    @arebalwithacause 4 года назад +10

    Dang, that was possibly the most impressive body tension I've ever seen on a climb

    • @eliasarias7004
      @eliasarias7004 2 года назад +2

      Super underrated comment right here. Insane.

  • @charlesbeukes2633
    @charlesbeukes2633 4 года назад +6

    Definitely the coolest climbing I have seen so far. Amazing! 🙌

    • @SyRyanYang
      @SyRyanYang 4 года назад +3

      yea it's cool alright thanks to the fan.

  • @WallOfDis
    @WallOfDis 2 года назад +1

    The fact that this man could focus with that goddamn music playing is the real feat.

  • @peterszij
    @peterszij 4 года назад +2

    Now this is what I call fan service!
    Well done Dave, venga!!

  • @Jonny-dd8sg
    @Jonny-dd8sg 4 года назад +61

    He did more kneebars in one route than Adam Ondra in one year 😲

    • @drtimoneill
      @drtimoneill 4 года назад +2

      This is what a 9b looks like! No knee pads and just 1 one leg knee bar when tying in at the lip ... ruclips.net/video/ul6CkmmDsjw/видео.html&ab_channel=BAProductions91. Two taped on knee bar pads and 10 knee bars does not a 9b make. Dave has 2 choices, either to downgrade it or claim some other climb that isnt 9b. Sorry fan bois.

    • @RirottoPL
      @RirottoPL 4 года назад

      you should watch ondra on silence climb, dude basically when camping on that rout lmao

  • @masonmoen2712
    @masonmoen2712 4 года назад +1

    Very good Dave. Super. Continue. Allez.

  • @biltongandboba
    @biltongandboba 4 года назад +11

    I finally know where and what the start of Ali Hulk Sit Start Extension Low Start SDS Extension Direct is!

    • @audenalsop2
      @audenalsop2 4 года назад

      You forgot the “Total” part..

  • @eddiesniper
    @eddiesniper 4 года назад +2

    Up there as one of the most impressive bits of climbing I’ve seen.

  • @lorenaiach1853
    @lorenaiach1853 4 года назад +3

    This is probably the wildest thing this channel has posted and this channel has posted a lot of very wild things. Amazed!

  • @MrSteeleFPV
    @MrSteeleFPV 4 года назад +8

    Fan dab

  • @SeaBear161
    @SeaBear161 4 года назад +25

    This is a weird damn sport climb

  • @jacobsack
    @jacobsack 4 года назад +6

    I think this takes the crown for the most knee bars in a route

  • @julierogers7248
    @julierogers7248 2 года назад +2

    good job dave

  • @less_drama_more_climbing
    @less_drama_more_climbing 4 года назад +18

    I would really like to hear the thoughts of Alex Megos about this send. And the fan guy standing on a ladder is a bit much, there is no way around that. But anywayz I bet 100 eur, that if his shinn would be 3 cm shorter, he would not have done it with an army of fan guys. So the next step will be to build a tent around the route and air-condition the whole place. I wonder how no boulders have been tent-ed yet.

  • @grassrootsphotographysean4474
    @grassrootsphotographysean4474 4 года назад +31

    Cant say im a "FAN" of the fan.

  • @bongosock
    @bongosock 4 года назад +5

    Might have to start calling it Ali Kneebar ;)
    Great to see Dave crushing!

  • @gallanonim6535
    @gallanonim6535 4 года назад +21

    I really can't believe that this kneebar fest has the same difficulty as Golpe de Estado or Jumbo Love. A weird mixture of technicality meets brutality with a dash of enduro ;)

    • @drtimoneill
      @drtimoneill 4 года назад +7

      Exactly! This is what a 9b looks like! No knee pads and just 1 one leg knee bar when tying in at the lip ... ruclips.net/video/ul6CkmmDsjw/видео.html&ab_channel=BAProductions91. Two taped on knee bar pads and 10 knee bars does not a 9b make. Dave has 2 choices, either to downgrade it or claim some other climb that isnt 9b. Sorry fan bois.

    • @dDemise
      @dDemise 4 года назад +25

      @@drtimoneill nice couch grading dude

    • @colinadams9529
      @colinadams9529 3 года назад

      @@drtimoneill Maybe you could say that if you've climbed 9B

  • @joelkinder3197
    @joelkinder3197 4 года назад +1

    THIS IS THE SHIIIIIIIITTTTTTT. MY MANS SHIT ON IT!!!!!!!!!!! So wish I was there ya'll... dang that looks fun. Best vibe ever.

  • @schneblymagee400
    @schneblymagee400 4 года назад +3

    Dave is the most inspiring climber to me, the fact that 15b can be sent without blood curdling screams makes me think you actually have it figured out rather than being physically stronger than the climb. Dave you are truly the best and most unique climber I have ever seen climb. Send hard and prosper🤙

  • @Jagknorr
    @Jagknorr 4 года назад +2

    Craziest boulder route ever! It had ropes!

  • @PeakDistrictBouldering
    @PeakDistrictBouldering 4 года назад +1

    That was amazing!
    Looks like knee-bars are quite useful on this route......

  • @yarpenzirgin1826
    @yarpenzirgin1826 4 года назад +6

    I never thought of climbing as team sport, guess I was mistaken :).

  • @JavierPClimbing
    @JavierPClimbing 4 года назад +1

    Comments at the end of the video are magical:
    Dave afther sendign: I'm gonna puke
    Dave to Citro (the fan guy): thanks for the air
    Primo: how the fuck i stop recording this shit
    Congrats Dave!

  • @vickvick3710
    @vickvick3710 4 года назад +2

    Lo amo! Qué tío más carismático 😂🤣🤙🏼

  • @JMnyJohns
    @JMnyJohns 4 года назад

    Sure, the fan on a ladder and clip in was a bit much but jeez guys, this is 16+ minutes, mostly inverted, on crimpers, pinches, toe hooks, etc. Knee bars don't keep your heart rate from rocketing up. Climbing is a different world now. Hell of an accomplishment.

  • @jasonschmitt5368
    @jasonschmitt5368 4 года назад +2

    That was incredible! Thank you for sharing!

  • @cheznikos
    @cheznikos 4 года назад +3

    Gotta be the longest and hardest way to climb about 3 meters high!

  • @LukeSeed
    @LukeSeed 4 года назад +1

    Get it Dave! Awesome

  • @AR_434
    @AR_434 4 года назад +3

    The wizard.. doing what he does best!

  • @MsPlaybook
    @MsPlaybook 4 года назад +1

    This man just climbed for 16 minutes straight....

  •  4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the experience!

  • @peteypete5996
    @peteypete5996 4 года назад +1

    Is this the original version of Ali Hulk Sit? Seems longer. Dave the Knee bar king. Legend.

  • @GranZebru
    @GranZebru 4 года назад +5

    fan-driven climbing

  • @johannessporer
    @johannessporer 4 года назад +3

    Rodellar:
    A dude climbs an sit start to a route that is linked to another route that has like 10 extensions with two kneepads while the other dude on th ground holds a big fan in his face all the time
    Frankenjura:
    A dude is offended by a new COMPLETELY SEPERATE route next to his and chips the bolts
    Altmühltal:
    If you don't break your legs (or neck) falling in the sketchy af 6m to the first bolt, the route is overbolted

  • @anosnd
    @anosnd 4 года назад +1

    Shoutout to the hardest working knees in the biz.

  • @PhilTerrano
    @PhilTerrano 4 года назад +25

    Fan Spotters Are Aid - change my mind

    • @RedX2276
      @RedX2276 4 года назад +1

      @@MrWhoabuddy you have to have someone clip the rope in for this kind of route... what's the alternative, be clipping draws 5 feet off the ground and have insane rope drag the whole way?

    • @nicdes5540
      @nicdes5540 4 года назад +1

      he could have just done it at a better season with no fan and it would be the same. But since it was a shit season he made the best of what he had.

    • @karimchahine4883
      @karimchahine4883 4 года назад +4

      If he couldn't have send it without fan then isn't that the definition of aid? If he could send it without it then why didn't he. A fan is an external thing and it was carried around by another person. I'm open to change my mind on this thing, I'm more on the OP side rn though

    • @karimchahine4883
      @karimchahine4883 4 года назад

      I mean it's the first time a see something like this anyway. Also he is a legend and all

    • @collinmcadoo6616
      @collinmcadoo6616 4 года назад +7

      Shoes are aid. chalk is aid. Fans are aid. Knee pads are aid. Get over it it’s climbing rocks. If you aren’t hanging on gear and you do it clean under your own power it’s a send. Dudes out here climbing 5.15b for 20 minutes just for 5.8 climber keyboard warriors to bash

  • @iso6390
    @iso6390 4 года назад +4

    I really enjoy comparing different climbing styles/different climbers on the same route so here‘s magnus midtbos video to whom it may concern :)
    ruclips.net/video/ul6CkmmDsjw/видео.html

  • @juandelacanal
    @juandelacanal 4 года назад +19

    they should change the name of the route to "Rodillar" 🤣

    • @gabrielleon685
      @gabrielleon685 4 года назад +1

      OMG pitch it to them, deserves that name change haha

  • @drumsnotdead1
    @drumsnotdead1 4 года назад +1

    Fan guy is like the brush people in curling... hero

  • @DANIEL.KOSIOREK
    @DANIEL.KOSIOREK 4 года назад +2

    I would Dave's fan for weeks if only to see a send like this!!!!

  • @camrendewaard1323
    @camrendewaard1323 4 года назад

    Who else's arms got tired just looking at the fan guy?
    Holding that fan would be really exhausting...
    Dave Graham as he hangs upside down:

  • @satanaz
    @satanaz 4 года назад +19

    Everyone's worried about a fan? What about Dani doing all moves without knee pads?
    Can't be the same grade with all of those rest points that the knee pad allows for...
    ruclips.net/video/P-JZjl4K_S8/видео.html

    • @biigginger
      @biigginger 4 года назад +1

      Dani also crushes it no qualms. One finger pocket lock off , say nuttin

    • @anselmgeimer2138
      @anselmgeimer2138 4 года назад +4

      This might be the case, but Dave climbs the 'extension total' version, which adds another extension to the version first ascended by Dani Andrada.

    • @skltr21
      @skltr21 4 года назад +5

      magnus did the same. watching this ascent was painful

    • @drtimoneill
      @drtimoneill 4 года назад +1

      Exactly! This is what a 9b looks like! No knee pads and just 1 one leg knee bar when tying in at the lip ... ruclips.net/video/ul6CkmmDsjw/видео.html&ab_channel=BAProductions91. Two taped on knee bar pads and 10 knee bars does not a 9b make. Dave has 2 choices, either to downgrade it or claim some other climb that isnt 9b. Sorry fan bois.

  • @StickyPaw
    @StickyPaw 4 года назад +5

    Mellow x Makita?!?! Chalk white color way is 🔥!

  • @paulusul
    @paulusul 4 года назад +1

    What a magician!

  • @the061PUNK
    @the061PUNK 4 года назад +1

    Wizard !
    If you know, you know
    If you don’t know, now you know

  • @chasbissell6005
    @chasbissell6005 4 года назад +18

    Fan guy is aid

  • @nicholasvaloff6064
    @nicholasvaloff6064 4 года назад

    Damn that route looks sick as hell.

  • @Lama-kg8xp
    @Lama-kg8xp 4 года назад +1

    I know it’s a fan but I’m pretending it’s a boom box 🎶 🕺🏼.

  • @Mike-oz4cv
    @Mike-oz4cv 4 года назад +2

    I think we have a new knee bar world champion.

    • @drtimoneill
      @drtimoneill 4 года назад

      Exactly! This is what a 9b looks like! No knee pads and just 1 one leg knee bar when tying in at the lip ... ruclips.net/video/ul6CkmmDsjw/видео.html&ab_channel=BAProductions91. Two taped on knee bar pads and 10 knee bars does not a 9b make. Dave has 2 choices, either to downgrade it or claim some other climb that isnt 9b. Sorry fan bois.

    • @Mike-oz4cv
      @Mike-oz4cv 4 года назад

      @@drtimoneill Laura Rogora also did it with much fewer knee bars. But I don’t think using a lot of knee bars is “cheating”. I don’t know why the other climbers didn’t use that many, but maybe they just couldn’t? Finding knee bars and using them also takes skill, power and endurance.

    • @drtimoneill
      @drtimoneill 4 года назад

      @@Mike-oz4cv Did she have pads taped to each knee? Did she have a fan guy? The fact we even have to ask 'how' they did it is the point. It's simply not a 'what' anymore. Times and ethics have changed so really I don't need to ask any more, clearly the 'when' is from now on it's just a different sport.

    • @Mike-oz4cv
      @Mike-oz4cv 4 года назад

      @@drtimoneill I think knee pads are generally allowed and not frowned upon. Not sure if taping them is allowed. I think your criticism boils down to him using a different beta. Which is fine. If somebody finds a new and easier beta it can result in the downgrade of a route though.
      Regarding the fan guy: Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous. Personally I think it would have distracted me more than it helps, but I don’t climb 9b roofs ;) I don’t know what the climbing hivemind has to say about external help. I’ve always found it borderline cheating when somebody gives chalk to boulderers during a climb instead of them carrying their own chalkbag.

  • @WestCoastWheels
    @WestCoastWheels 4 года назад +2

    Didnt Dani Andrada do this without pads? Also wouldnt it be like 15c then..

  • @samleannah2878
    @samleannah2878 4 года назад +1

    Whats the point of roping up 5 feet from the ground when the belayer has 8 feet of slack

  • @theicebergs1
    @theicebergs1 4 года назад +1

    The essence of climbing right there. Dave is a somewhat technician

  • @florianmaier5829
    @florianmaier5829 4 года назад +1

    Would be interesting to see the ascent (and the same beta) without kneepads

    • @mitchellblanchard7838
      @mitchellblanchard7838 4 года назад

      There are other ascents online where they didnt use them...I think first repeat by Magnus he didn't have knee pads

    • @krux933
      @krux933 4 года назад

      There's a video of Magnus doing it somewhere but he probably used diff beta

    • @mitchellblanchard7838
      @mitchellblanchard7838 4 года назад

      @@krux933 yeah, I'm also not sure - I think this is the sit start 'total' which I think adds a few moves from the original sit magnus sent

    • @Alex-hq5ir
      @Alex-hq5ir 4 года назад +1

      @@mitchellblanchard7838 there's like a million versions of this damn route. Regardless both variations if they are different are still 9b.

  • @xyrandus
    @xyrandus 4 года назад +3

    Can it really be counted as a send if no one screams LET'S GO!! after?

  • @zwhite_122
    @zwhite_122 4 года назад +15

    This isn’t hypnotized minds????

    • @zwhite_122
      @zwhite_122 4 года назад +2

      Please don’t make us wait 7 years I beg of you

  • @umadbro4493
    @umadbro4493 2 года назад

    David's Animal!

  • @knuthtreeservice
    @knuthtreeservice 4 года назад +4

    Original ascent and grade did not include 29 kneebars. Why people don't downgrade instead of remaining quiet I don't understand. Slice of life ring a bell ? Dave is really one of the best climbers in American history and Dave's long term time span at the top end of climbing is incredible. This video to me really just shows me his mastery of the kneebar ,not climbing 15b.

  • @LukeSeed
    @LukeSeed 4 года назад

    It was really a 17min climb. Insane

  • @alexmitchell6496
    @alexmitchell6496 2 года назад

    How many knee bars? All of them.

  • @dweinstock06
    @dweinstock06 4 года назад +1

    Mind like a steel trap having to remember all of that beta!

  • @polarnia
    @polarnia 4 года назад +3

    I’m 25, not very good at climbing, and suck at knee bars but I want to be Dave Graham when I grow up.

    • @AMM1998
      @AMM1998 4 года назад +2

      Just start with the kush and eventually you'll get there

  • @robertovega9619
    @robertovega9619 4 года назад

    not to touch a sore spot but does this mean the island is no more?

  • @beneckstein7020
    @beneckstein7020 4 года назад +1

    MUY BIEN!!! *gets lowered 15 feet*

  • @darkotp7108
    @darkotp7108 4 года назад +6

    29 knee bars and still 9b?????
    Magnus Midtboe video without knee-bars shoul be 9c+ right???

  • @MrThidious
    @MrThidious 4 года назад

    Amazing!

  • @richiewinter2800
    @richiewinter2800 4 года назад

    Unsung hero of the send is jebrone with the fan

  • @iggimoore
    @iggimoore 4 года назад

    Fantastic 💪🏼😉👍🏼

  • @furiousmat
    @furiousmat 4 года назад

    Now I know why I can't send 5.15. I just don't have a guy holding a fan to my face the whole time. It all makes sense now.

    • @philipdegle
      @philipdegle 4 года назад +1

      You maybe cant even climb a 5c warmup boulder so just dont be a prick and give him the send

    • @furiousmat
      @furiousmat 4 года назад +2

      @@philipdegle lmao what? Congratulation on being the single most humorless, uptight asshole I've ever encountered in any setting in the climbing community.

  • @fencho4381
    @fencho4381 4 года назад

    Que animal! Increíble!

  • @GinoTheSinner
    @GinoTheSinner 4 года назад

    Very good, Dove Grehem!

  • @georgr.7249
    @georgr.7249 4 года назад

    Jesus Crist, this dude is wyld.

  • @alisen1990
    @alisen1990 4 года назад +4

    Looks so much fan

  • @Freeriderau2
    @Freeriderau2 4 года назад

    "Ali - Dave - Super!"

  • @youngputter239
    @youngputter239 4 года назад

    I’ve never seen Adam Ondra climb with some dude pointing a fan at him the entire time

    • @h.szymanski
      @h.szymanski 4 года назад

      That's how he'll send a 9c+

  • @iannanez7296
    @iannanez7296 4 года назад +10

    This just ruined climbing for me...
    Time to get into professional fanning

  • @xxavior2012
    @xxavior2012 4 года назад

    I know it’s been said a hundred times at this point but this is simultaneously impressive, bizarre, and a bit sus with the fan. All in all seems like typical Dave Graham, probably just doing it for himself not caring about what people think of the aid