Evey person with a PC is now a parts expert. The part was probably the wrong one,but ordered that way,and works fine. Human error is what makes life human,the day is coming when human error will be obsolete,never,lol
I’m surprised the owner didn’t have the original fuel rail in the back of the vehicle. If he’s savvy enough to take on changing a fuel rail you’d think this isn’t his first rodeo and should know “if what you did made it worse, undo what you just did”
Yup… Amazon parts strike again. A friend asked for help with his GMC Yukon Denali with a check engine light. It was rich on both banks. The long term fuel trims were maxed out on both banks, and it also maxed out the short terms, so even at the maximum negative LTFT, it was still extremely rich. After checking some things like the flex fuel system, throttle body, MAF readings, fuel pressure, I finally checked the injectors and noticed they were replaced. I asked where he got them and he said “Amazon.” I pulled up the same injectors he purchased… all 1 star reviews, every single one of them was; “Fits great. But now my check engine light is on and runs rough.” or something to that effect. I told him to get the right injectors from the dealer. We installed them and suddenly the Yukon wouldn’t even stay running. With the proper injectors, the maxed out negative fuel trims couldn’t keep the engine running long enough for the computer to make adjustments haha. I had to reset the trims with the scanner. Between that and doing every job two or three times, not because I messed up, but because of bad parts, I had enough. I had to replace a bad camshaft position sensor because the car had an intermittent circuit code. I installed the new sensor and then it was just a camshaft position circuit code. We sent it back and got a new one; the same circuit code showed up. I called up the parts store to get another one sent promptly and the kid is giving me lip, “Are you sure the sensor is the problem?” I said “I checked the wiring from the sensor to the computer before I ordered the first one. It’s perfectly fine. I also reinstalled the old sensor and the intermittent circuit code comes right back. I plug in your sensor and there’s no signal.” Why would I have to explain myself to a cashier… if he could fix cars, he’d be doing that. It got so bad over the past 5 years that if a car came in with a problem, and anything was recently replaced, that’s where I would direct my diagnosis. And the sad commentary is that 7/10 times, the new part was the issue. Either the DIYer or other shop had it right, but was screwed by shit parts. It happened to me too, far too many times. Eventually I said, “Fuck this. I’m going to be a plumber.” Very rarely do you get a defective part. No regrets.
I see this everyday on the Facebook forums I'm on for the different vehicles I own. Someone will ask about a quote they got from a repair shop, and everyone will tell them... "that quote is rediculous! You can do it yourself with a crescent wrench and this $20 wing dong part from Amazon or ebay."
I know of a 2018 Tahoe that had Amazon led headlights that caused a bunch of issues. The dash cluster went crazy, misfire and interior lights wouldn’t go off. Was in 4 different shops for 9 months. Even sent a gm guy that stayed for 3 months on it. After no one figured anything out an oil change guy came out and said change the bulbs, you’ve tried everything else. Sure enough. The dealership they bought it from offer a lifetime warranty on everything they sell. Good for customer, but man what a mess.
Ive worked on a few of these. Where the high pressure pump is leaking fuel into the oil and causing rich codes. If i had it down that far. Id replace that high pressure pump also. Check oil if its overfull. Id definitely change it.
Important technical parts like this I steer clear from Amazon and Ebay. They are not auto dealers and the people that list these things are not either. I'd rathar get OEM original parts.
I’m rethinking cheaping out on parts to keep my old ford ranger running after seeing stuff like this. Good advice about a least doing some research if using aftermarket stuff. I used to think you car guys had an easier career than the airline guys but we don’t have to deal with crazy customers & junk parts
Funny you say that about your ranger. I had a p0401 code (Egr code) for my 99 ranger 3.0 v6. After throwing 2 Amazon Chinese DPFE sensors at it ($20 each) the code kept coming back. Wasted a bunch of time with other parts here and there, until I finally bought the Motorcraft dpfe sensor, and the code hasn't come back in over a year. Lesson learned 😂
It's the customers fault for not telling you all the details. I'm getting frustrated playing part detective on this crap😂 But eventually it makes me a better technician
Hey thanks gents we still love you guys. Thanks for letting me know In not alone. But in reality yall found it and that piece of mind goes a long way. Great video ✌
I have a 6.2L Ford F150 (the 16 plug deal). I bought 8 coils for $100 on Amazon and they were misfiring so bad I though the engine would fall out. Flashing CEL. Never again. Rockauto has Denso or Motorcraft for $70. Most of the OEM were good, only needed 3.
I recommend you to create a check list, your team use when you accept new vehicles. One question can be: where did you source the parts from? Check lists are great they give you guidance. IMO the customer is at fault had you known that those parts were from amazon you would've spent less time on it.
We had a customer bring in three converters and all o2 sensors from rock auto for their Chevy Traverse. I slapped everything in no warranty. Test drove it, customer took the car and brought it back after a week. All converters blew up. I despise rock auto and Amazon parts. It's a crapshoot.
I buy only OE or OEM from online dealers or RockAuto for my Hondas and Toyotas, and never had an issue. It’s not worth trying to save money buying from Amazon or eBay.
Amazon is good for cheap stuff but parts like fuel rails or electronics forget it. I've ordered name brand stuff from amazon trying my luck and I got a name brand box with a chinisium replica inside 3/5 times.
Idk man, a good tech sees this and knows how to navigate this situation. talk to your customer in a way that answers your questions when you see something aftermarket and wrong. the best techs around me are smart ones, keep this in mind that not everyone is smart contrary to their feelings.
I'm really surprised that you guys would install parts that the customer gives you. Especially if they come from Amazon. You can't be giving them any kind or warranty on these parts
I really don’t think left vs right determines how well you repair a vehicle. My friends GF’s dad has done some questionable repairs on their cars and he’s a big trump guy
This is why I choose to drive vehicles from the 70s.
Easy to diagnose and relatively easy to repair.
Evey person with a PC is now a parts expert. The part was probably the wrong one,but ordered that way,and works fine. Human error is what makes life human,the day is coming when human error will be obsolete,never,lol
This rabbit hole is deep. Your lucky that you made it out. Lol
I’m surprised the owner didn’t have the original fuel rail in the back of the vehicle. If he’s savvy enough to take on changing a fuel rail you’d think this isn’t his first rodeo and should know “if what you did made it worse, undo what you just did”
That’s the craziest rabbit hole diag I’ve heard in a while. Incredible work
Yup… Amazon parts strike again.
A friend asked for help with his GMC Yukon Denali with a check engine light. It was rich on both banks. The long term fuel trims were maxed out on both banks, and it also maxed out the short terms, so even at the maximum negative LTFT, it was still extremely rich.
After checking some things like the flex fuel system, throttle body, MAF readings, fuel pressure, I finally checked the injectors and noticed they were replaced. I asked where he got them and he said “Amazon.” I pulled up the same injectors he purchased… all 1 star reviews, every single one of them was; “Fits great. But now my check engine light is on and runs rough.” or something to that effect.
I told him to get the right injectors from the dealer. We installed them and suddenly the Yukon wouldn’t even stay running. With the proper injectors, the maxed out negative fuel trims couldn’t keep the engine running long enough for the computer to make adjustments haha. I had to reset the trims with the scanner.
Between that and doing every job two or three times, not because I messed up, but because of bad parts, I had enough. I had to replace a bad camshaft position sensor because the car had an intermittent circuit code. I installed the new sensor and then it was just a camshaft position circuit code. We sent it back and got a new one; the same circuit code showed up. I called up the parts store to get another one sent promptly and the kid is giving me lip, “Are you sure the sensor is the problem?” I said “I checked the wiring from the sensor to the computer before I ordered the first one. It’s perfectly fine. I also reinstalled the old sensor and the intermittent circuit code comes right back. I plug in your sensor and there’s no signal.”
Why would I have to explain myself to a cashier… if he could fix cars, he’d be doing that.
It got so bad over the past 5 years that if a car came in with a problem, and anything was recently replaced, that’s where I would direct my diagnosis. And the sad commentary is that 7/10 times, the new part was the issue. Either the DIYer or other shop had it right, but was screwed by shit parts. It happened to me too, far too many times. Eventually I said, “Fuck this. I’m going to be a plumber.” Very rarely do you get a defective part.
No regrets.
Always ready reviews before buying anything on Amazon.
I see this everyday on the Facebook forums I'm on for the different vehicles I own. Someone will ask about a quote they got from a repair shop, and everyone will tell them... "that quote is rediculous! You can do it yourself with a crescent wrench and this $20 wing dong part from Amazon or ebay."
happy that you're back with uncompromised channel!
This is why on certain applications you only get OEM parts. Electrical and fuel systems are mandatory OEM.
exactly.!!!!!!!!!
I know of a 2018 Tahoe that had Amazon led headlights that caused a bunch of issues. The dash cluster went crazy, misfire and interior lights wouldn’t go off. Was in 4 different shops for 9 months. Even sent a gm guy that stayed for 3 months on it. After no one figured anything out an oil change guy came out and said change the bulbs, you’ve tried everything else. Sure enough. The dealership they bought it from offer a lifetime warranty on everything they sell. Good for customer, but man what a mess.
Between Amazon parts and part store junk, I'm ready to get out of turning wrenches. This video is exactly how this past year has been for me.
Grease the wheels on your toolbox and move to an industrial equipment shop. It’s a thousand times easier.
What would an industrial shop be
Switch to semi trucks. So much less headache.
Ive worked on a few of these. Where the high pressure pump is leaking fuel into the oil and causing rich codes. If i had it down that far. Id replace that high pressure pump also. Check oil if its overfull. Id definitely change it.
What about autozone/oreily parts?? I bought a gold starter for my honda going strong 2 years 😎👍
Important technical parts like this I steer clear from Amazon and Ebay. They are not auto dealers and the people that list these things are not either. I'd rathar get OEM original parts.
I’m rethinking cheaping out on parts to keep my old ford ranger running after seeing stuff like this. Good advice about a least doing some research if using aftermarket stuff. I used to think you car guys had an easier career than the airline guys but we don’t have to deal with crazy customers & junk parts
Funny you say that about your ranger. I had a p0401 code (Egr code) for my 99 ranger 3.0 v6. After throwing 2 Amazon Chinese DPFE sensors at it ($20 each) the code kept coming back. Wasted a bunch of time with other parts here and there, until I finally bought the Motorcraft dpfe sensor, and the code hasn't come back in over a year. Lesson learned 😂
It's the customers fault for not telling you all the details.
I'm getting frustrated playing part detective on this crap😂
But eventually it makes me a better technician
Learning opportunity for sure.
Hey thanks gents we still love you guys. Thanks for letting me know In not alone. But in reality yall found it and that piece of mind goes a long way. Great video ✌
When it comes to parts like that, you need to spend extra money and go OEM parts!
I have a 6.2L Ford F150 (the 16 plug deal). I bought 8 coils for $100 on Amazon and they were misfiring so bad I though the engine would fall out. Flashing CEL. Never again. Rockauto has Denso or Motorcraft for $70. Most of the OEM were good, only needed 3.
My Chevy Cruze. They redesigned the whole car mid year mid 16
People buy these expensive vehicles and cant even afford to properly maintain them and buy the cheapest parts they can find. Just crazy to me
No Amazon, no eBay....triple check new vs old
I recommend you to create a check list, your team use when you accept new vehicles. One question can be: where did you source the parts from? Check lists are great they give you guidance. IMO the customer is at fault had you known that those parts were from amazon you would've spent less time on it.
In the automotive world, there are no such thing as coincidences. If there is more than one red flag, then the solutiom is right there.
We had a customer bring in three converters and all o2 sensors from rock auto for their Chevy Traverse. I slapped everything in no warranty. Test drove it, customer took the car and brought it back after a week. All converters blew up. I despise rock auto and Amazon parts. It's a crapshoot.
He should have told you the whole story. Bill him for all your time
This is not limited to Amazon. Aftermarket parts catalogs are littered with errors, you really have to research carefully when you find discrepancies.
Sometime in there they switched to SENT sensor
This is why it's better to avoid china parts many times
I’ve had it go the other way also. Got a part number off of Rock Auto, which I trust, and looked it up on Amazon and it said it didn’t fit the car.
Rock Auto will send you below B stock. It’s a toss up, nasty work.
What a pain in the @$$. Sounds like Sherwood II is asking all the right questions when something doesn’t add up though. Well done!
There is nothing worse than working on something that the customer has been trying to fix.
it becomes a cluster f*ck!
got some fake R8 retops for my VW, didnt know they were fake. and it cost me $$$ and limp mode.
Shoot landscape, not portrait
These are our shorter more interactive videos. We have an entire channel with landscape videos if you want to check it out @theroyaltyautoservice 👍
sheeeeew, i know, right.?!?!?!? smart phones are 30 YEARS OLD and people are pitiful.!!!!!!!!!!
I buy only OE or OEM from online dealers or RockAuto for my Hondas and Toyotas, and never had an issue. It’s not worth trying to save money buying from Amazon or eBay.
Should have ordered from rock auto
Amazon is good for cheap stuff but parts like fuel rails or electronics forget it. I've ordered name brand stuff from amazon trying my luck and I got a name brand box with a chinisium replica inside 3/5 times.
Sounds like service advisors need a certification of their own… we have these same damn problems with our advisors… not getting enough info
Biggest mistake was buying the Escalade
Every time I go to do a repair and I see an Amazon box waiting for me. I know that unopened box can potentially be a can of worms.
Man, every time I see new parts on a car I have to ask the customer where they got them from.
Oh man, now it needs the right fuel rail and injectors and a new camshaft.
Who Buy Escalade and buy parts from Amazon
PLEASE PLEASE MAKE MOST OF YOUR VIDEOS ABOUT ELECTRIC STUFF LIKE YOU DID IT NOW ❤
Idk man, a good tech sees this and knows how to navigate this situation. talk to your customer in a way that answers your questions when you see something aftermarket and wrong. the best techs around me are smart ones, keep this in mind that not everyone is smart contrary to their feelings.
Owner trying to keep up with the joneses barely can afford the payments
Don't ya ❤ junk parts or wrong parts. Especially when ya spend tons of time on repair
Dont let Amazon off the hook.
Would you let your child off the hook for letting thieves inside your house?
I'm really surprised that you guys would install parts that the customer gives you. Especially if they come from Amazon. You can't be giving them any kind or warranty on these parts
That's insane.
This is why i voted for Trump....liberal democrat customers......................
I really don’t think left vs right determines how well you repair a vehicle. My friends GF’s dad has done some questionable repairs on their cars and he’s a big trump guy
"...liberal democrat customers..."
Yeah your vote..that'll show 'em!!
This guy is an idiot and prolly drives a Tesla POS ....
@@crazy4gta1 Not I saw a Trump father start a fire with 2 ice cube rub together...............ohhhhhhhhh