Personally, I find Zant to be really scary because of his two sided personality. Calm, collected, intimidating. Crazed, deranged, insane. Both are Zant. And both are what make him so terrifying.
Exactly, Zant was an amazing villain. The manga of Twilight Princess expands his story and shows more of his insanity So that's why I'm confused about Josh's choice, this fits Zant since he is a psycho for power. All villains don't have to be calm and grounded to be an great character
@@mastertjt56 manga is one thing. But his presence in the game is heavily underdeveloped and underutilized. More over, his characterization is completely rushed and out of place. I love Twilight Princess, but Zant is such a letdown of a villain.
Zant is actually a case of an old trope called the villainous breakdown. He is normally calm and collected when things are going well for him but by the time of the fight, well the fertilizer has hit the fan from his perspective.
@@WorldWeave Didn’t Link pretty much completely screw him over by this point though? He has basically retaken Hyrule Castle, and are finally about to beat him.
Yeah. I would had crapped myself if I had gotten that far. I stopped playing the game before that point. (Yeah, FF7R fan I am not even close to being. Dear God, I HATED that game.)
11:20 Mad respect for Clockwerk as one of the more intimidating bosses in a seemingly child friendly video game. Seriously, the idea of a guy being kept alive simply because of his incalculable hatred for a single family is both insane and cool at the same time.
The thing about darkling is that he is not a shadowy enemy, he is actually a dark reflection and one of the most reflective surfaces in nature is water.
That's actually something I thought about, too. It's like he was born out of Link's reflection in the water. Kid Icarus Uprising did something similar by having Dark Pit be born out of Pit's reflection in a mirror, although he's less villain and more moody anti-hero.
@@VGamingJunkieVT well you're not completely wrong about the reflection thing with darkling from the water temple in Ocarina of Time oh, he's a little Dylan thing about it while you're walking across the water once you get to the little Island at the center and then just keep moving you'll see that links reflection is no longer there.
@@christianruffin1342 Being unique but a little TOO realistic (in the same lines as Dark Souls, Monster Hunter, Skyrim, etc.), especially since Mario is known for being outright silly and cartoony, I know! (Not gonna lie though, I actually liked the actual fight against it - regardless of anachronism)
@@jordanhunter3375 Likely considering the first thing that came to mind was Paarthurnax, I was kind of expecting to hear dohva shouted out at some point
The funny thing about Sonic and Black Knight is that whenever I play it, I can't help but to think that the person who was writing this game must have really liked Fate/Stay Night... cause Death being Inevitable is that Series' Bread and Butter
@@deathbykonami5487 I just mentioned it since there was an entry in this countdown where he talked about Mario fighting a realistic dragon which reminded me of the fact that Mario's voice actor voiced a dragon in Skyrim
True, true. I guess the "Lord of Lightning" was pretty much an inevitability, then. Surprised it took the length of time between Skyrim and Super Mario Odyssey to make it happen, but, hey...better late than never, eh? XD
10. Somehow, I knew Photoshop Flowey was going to be on here somewhere. I didn't expect it to be so low, but I expected it to be here. 9. Zant sticks out so much and I LOVE it. I think the reason he managed to stay calm and collected for as long as he did was because he always felt like he had the upper hand. 8. I honestly didn't think too much about how out of place the Pete fight actually was at the time but I really see it now. 7. I haven't played FF7R, but I know enough about Tonberries to know that I do not want to mess with that thing before I'm ready. Side note, my group recently started playing Pathfinder and I have a character build in reserve that I nicknamed "The Tonberry" for good reason. 6. Clock-La was both completely, and not expected at all. I agree with your assessment that the entire chapter is effectively the bossfight since it's the only time in the series where the boss can take potshots at you the whole chapter. 5. Haven't played Drakengard. But the insanity you described does sound like something Yoko Taro would make. 4. 02. What is it with Kirby and having final bosses that would not be out of place in some horror games? 3. It is so strange to watch a Sonic game wax philosophical but somehow it does not bother me here. 2. When the Lord of Lightning popped up, I immediately paused the game and had to ask myself why there was a Dark Souls boss in Mario all of a sudden. You have Cartoony monster, Cartoony Monster, Cartoony Monster, photo-realistic dragon. One of these is not like the other. 1. That was bizarre... Nothing else to say here.
I wonder if the Lord of Lightning in Odyssey was actually meant to be a loose reference to The Elder Scrolls franchise. Stay with me on this: Charles Martinet did the voice of Parthannax in Skyrim. Since he's the voice of Mario, I figured this was actively meant to chain the two roles together, albeit loosely (as previously stated).
And Lord of Lightning is just straight up the elder brother to Martinet's character in Skyrim, and his enemy. Alduin. The design is literally the goddamned same.
Tonberry isn't always an enemy. In FF14 you actually do a questline where you rescue a small city full of them and they turn out to be friendly, and in the scholar questline you find out some Lalafel got turned into them and you start trying to help find a cure for their condition.
but the MAJORITY of the time, and the way they were introduced, was as powerful late game enemies. This is, as far as I know, the only time a tonberry has been an actual boss fight, however.
Zant: Oh, now what?! Midna: Are you sure you're not suppose to be at all funny? Zant: What? Its a scary dance of evil! ... Link: Yeah, especially when you play this over it.
I feel like that's the point with Zant. Like he goes to all this trouble to make himself look and sound scary in order to frighten Hyrule's defenders into submission, desperate to conceal the fact that he's just... a guy. A wimpy, high-strung guy driven mad by his imprisonment in the Twilight Realm who hides his lack of badassery behind a helmet and cloak. Like Dark Helmet in Spaceballs. No Giygas? I guess Earthbound did get an honorable mention but still...
I didn't know what a Tonberry was when I first saw it in the remake of FFVII. My brother did though and thought I was crazy. Yes, I had played the original FFVII and had seen FFX and X-2 but had never even saw a Tonberry
They made their first appearance in FFV. In Istory Falls Cave. Nearly every entry afterwards has them. In X, they're especially terrifying. Don't Summon any Aeons. XIII has 2 Ci'eth Stone missions involving them.
Surprised Mother Beast Lusamine from Pokémon Sun and Moon wasn't on here. You're all set to throw down with her like you have with every other boss, every other *foe* in the series, and what does she do? Merges with space jellyfish to become an eldrich monstrocity that somehow has the ability to grant her team a totem aura. Granted then you still fight her pokemon instead of her but still, it's INCREDIBLY disturbing and followed up by a scene where she tries to kill her own daughter only to nearly die herself when the jellyfish un-merge after an attack from Nebby.
@@AzureMoebius22 Thought that would've been cool to face, I can understand, from a story aspect, why that wasn't the case. Lillie was determined to bring her mother back from Ultra Space and restore her good will, having our help for when battling's necessary. However, if we were to attack Lusamine directly, then we would be going against Lillie's wishes. The only reason why the game's Legendary attacked her is because desperate times called for desperate measures.
@@AzureMoebius22 Kinda hard to do that when they've fused together. At that point, they're just one being. Even if you aren't directly hitting the Lusamine part, you'd still be attacking her.
well the genocide route isn't something most players will see, especially in their first time playing, and the route by itself is SUPPOSED to feel darker and more grim and horrific
I dunno I could also point to the fact that the entire plot hinges on Asgore trying to rip your soul out, the fact he’s doing it because his children died, his first son brutally murdered, the monsters being pretty much prisoners in the underground, there’s a lot of grim stuff in Undertale so it’s still a bit of an off statement to me
Oh! Alphys’ abomination experiments made up of her fellow monsters, Toriel desperate to save every child but ultimately helpless each time until Frisk comes
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@@braverydoesstuff4063: By Cheating Bosses, I am referring to bosses that will cheat or use unfair tactics in their battles. Here are some examples: *Mitch Connor - South Park: The Fractured But Whole -He's basically the equivalent of that one guy who goes "Nuh-uh, didn't hurt me. I'm immune." As sometimes during the fight he can just declare that some attacks just didn't damage him at all! He'll also give himself extra turns for cheap shots, inflict status effects he shouldn't be able to (on the entire party no less), steal your turn if you take to long, and he is also the only boss in the game who uses deflector shields. And whatever you do, DON'T ATTACK HIM WHILE THE SHIELD IS UP! Any damage dealt to him while the shield is up will instead damage the attacker! Your best bet (which you SHOULD USE) is to just stack as many damaging status effects as possible as he wont be able to declare that they don't hurt him. What's more, you have to fight him AGAIN at the end of the game. Difference here is that after a while, even Dr. Timothy gets fed up with Connor refusing to stay dead and just takes away his ability to cheat so you can finish him off. *Shadow Sae - Persona 5 -As Sae's Palace is a casino where every game is rigged in her favor so only she can win, it only makes sense the first part of the fight is a rigged roulette wheel. If you try to attack her during the betting, you'll take substantial damage yourself. It's only when you expose Sae's cheating and corner her does the battle truly begin. At this point, Sae blows her top, transforms and is done messing around. Willing to do whatever it takes to beat the Phantom Thieves. What's more, in Persona 5 Royal, after Sae transforms, the roulette wheel will change and represent different damage types. These will determine her resistances and what attacks she'll have. *Azazel - Tekken 6 -Some of your attacks (even if you directly hit Azazel) WON'T DAMAGE HIM! He DEFINITELY isn't blocking during these points and there are no invincibility frames, but just like Mitch Conner, he can just decide at whatever point to be impervious to damage. *Night Terror - Soulcalibur 3 -You can't ring him out! Do that and he'll just fly back up to the arena! *Tabuu - Super Smash Bros Brawl -Why? It's that DAMN WING AOE ATTACK! It might as well be an instakill and it covers the ENTIRE SCREEN! Every time I fight him I have to PRAY HE DOESN'T USE IT! *High Max - Megaman X6 -He is supposed to be weak to Blaze Heatnix's weapon. But get this... High Max is IMMUNE TO ALL OF YOUR ATTACKS! The only way to damage him is to use a very specific method. You need to shoot him with a fully charged buster shot and then quickly follow up with another attack, like Blaze Heatnix's Magma Blade. Question is... HOW IN THE HOLY MOTHER OF F*** WERE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT? There was ABSOLUTELY NO INDICATION given that you had to use THIS SPECIFIC STRATEGY to defeat him before hand, and if you don't know what to do here, its impossible!
@@andrewhaase1826 Don't forget Xell from Jingi Storm The Arcade - He takes reduced amounts of damage and deals increased amounts of damage, Some of his attacks guard break instantly, And explosive barrier attack and has different types of projectiles
"Now all we need is a kirby boss that tears out its own innards and beats you to death with them." Well...I mean...you kind of tear the innards out of the final boss in Star Allies. If you wanted dark kirby games, I recommend this one. Both the happiest and darkest game in the series.
Yayyy, I get to be pedantic with a RUclipsr whose content I really enjoy again! "Anachronistic" refers specifically to something seeming out of place in terms of time period or chronology. Seeing a car in a medieval setting would be Anachronistic. OK, pedantry done, great video!
If you need an extra week to adjust the DnD videos, I understand. In any case, here's the new content 10. Yeah I was unsure if I was playing the same game when I saw this boss 9. Here's some depravity from one of the best zelda villains 8. Oh! Didn't expect this Kingdom Hearts entry. Oh ha ha! 7. Now here's a boss I didn't know about from this great game. 6. Eh not my pick from this series but hey this ain't my list 5. Yeah this series is nuts. I learned that just from Nier and it's sequel. 4. Figured as much from this series. 3. Dang straight! Merlina is the best female villain in the sonic series hands down! 2. Yeah what is monster hunter/elder scrolls doing in my mario game? 1. Okay I understand why the lord of lightning was number 2. What is spiderman doing in a ninja game? I know he's an accidental ninja but come on! And next month is an evil time for us all! We're going to be busy in May.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and disagree [somewhat] about Zant; see, throughout the game, he has indeed been shown to be an imposing, menacing figure, and that moment...that freaky moment (that Ghirahim may or may not have totally definitely absolutely stole XD) where Zant monologues with Link & Midna, is that brief moment where he lets the mask slip (figuratively AND literally), just slightly, to show that he has control, absolutely craves it, and freaking RELISHES it. When you get to the very end, he finally unleashes the insanity that's been bubbling since you, as the hero, revealed yourself to be a legitimate threat to his plans unraveling. All told, I wouldn't say him acting so...pardon my French...bat-shit insane, is out-of-character: rather, unexpected. Though I will agree that, compared to the remainder of the lineup of bosses at Twilight Princess's disposal, yes, he sticks out like the sorest of sore thumbs. Seriously, who the HELL saw THAT coming!? We go from intimidating, supreme lord of the in-between, to a coked-up Looney Tune that has more screws loose than a piece of Ikea furniture that's been spilled out the back-end of a cargo jet! Just...WHAT THE HECK-A-RONI AM I EVEN LOOKING AT!? O.o
The problem with Zant is how quickly it happens. There needed to be more time to flesh out such a change. He goes from serious to crazy way too fast and before you have time to process this insanity, he gets thrown away just to have Ganandorf show up as a final boss. Both these villains needed more time to shine and unfortunately, they never give them such time.
DAMMIT How does that freaking flower keep POPPING UP IN THESE LISTS?!?? This thing is on its way to rivaling the appearance of KINGDOM EFFING HEARTS ON THIS CHANNEL!!!
Actually, Batman does summon bats quite often. It was a big thing in Batman Begins where he used them to cover his escape from Arkham, his "heroic brutality" from Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe was him placing a hypersonic beacon on his opponent and letting the bats at him and summoning a swarm of bats is an unlockable combat move from the Arkham game.
Tomberry: In time you will know what its like to lose. To feel so desperate that you're right, yet fail all the same. Dread it, run from it, destiny still arrives.
I actually find Zant to be a very interesting boss in every respect. And the fact that his personality ONLY exists as one extreme of the other is what makes him one of the most intimidating Zelda bosses. When he's calm and collected, you can at least get a read on what he might do next, but when that cool head turns to deranged jealousy and spite, he's impossible to predict and even to this day, I have a hard time dealing with him
"Don't think too hard about this. It is going to hurt and that's what Kingdom Hearts wants." I mean, from what I've heard about the franchise, that's just Kingdom Hearts summed up right there!
Even as someone who is still *fairly* new to Final Fantasy, even I know how to feel fear the second either a Malboro in this case a Tonberry appears...
@@DarkFrozenDepths SUrprisngly no. I know they're pretty tough enemies but from the FF games I've played, VI and extremely recently IX, they werent TOO bad. The Bravely Default one though was pretty rough but in fairness it WAS in a boss form where its expected to be tough.
@@Apolleh Some of the FF13 ones was a pain to take on... especially the one at the end of FF13-2... It was literally hitting as hard as some DLC superbosses...
To keep it at least a *little bit* kid-friendly, maybe the Kirby boss that would beat you with their own innards could be based on a sea cucumber; somewhat like Pyukumuku. It does do the same thing, so I could see that. May be gruesome to think about, but it is what sea cucumbers actually do, and what Pyukumuku replicates.
"Now we just need a Kirby final boss where it just tears out its own innards and beats you to death with them!" Void Termina comes pretty close to this, you literally rip up its beating heart as blood rains on you from the ceiling
tbh I heard the joke about the Kirby boss that tears out its own innards and beats you to death with them and I immediately thought of Void Termina from Star Allies with how its true form is contained inside of it, basically in a soft fleshy shell to replicate a real beating heart. also *wAIT, THE LORD OF LIGHTNING JUST MELLOWS OUT AFTER YOU BEAT HIM?! WE GOT A GOOD BOY???*
This episode was great, and the top three made me smile. While I am upset that the bosses are now going away, for now, the next category is very promising. Great video Firery Joker.
Kinda surprised you went over Clock-La and didn't mention her crippling Bentley. It's post-battle, but it really highlights the unexpected seriousness of her presence in the franchise
The interesting thing is that believe it or not, Mario's voice actor also did the voice of Parthranax in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. I don't know if they were just poking fun at that fact in Mario Odyssey or what, but I like it either way lol :D
Merlina is probably the best villain-of-the-week in the Sonic franchise. She’s unique, has an actual motivation other than “destroy everything/take over the world”, makes Sonic think about his own actions, and has a kickass final boss battle and theme. Granted, she doesn’t have much competition, as most other Sonic villains are either polarizing (Neo Metal Sonic, Mephiles, Infinite) or mostly disliked (Black Doom, the Deadly Six, Eggman Nega).
Eggman Nega is supposed to be an even more insane & evil Eggman that Blaze normally fights, I thought people liked him. As for Metal Sonic & Mephiles I thought they were 2 of the most well liked villains in the series. Merlina is easily the deepest & most complex antagonist that Sonic ever fought. You are right about the Deadly 6 being the most despised characters in the Sonic Series at this point.
4:35 Looking back Twilight Princess actually has amazing animations for a Gamecube game. I mean the way Midna moves and expresses herself looks very impressive even today. Zant is not as animated but his model is incredibly high poly and very detailed.
I expect at least one final boss from the kirby list here. After all most of them are pretty dark and disturbing especially from the older games. Looking at the Zero/Dark Matter ones especially.
I was mostly expecting the true final boss the rematch against the revived Queen Sectonia at the end of The True Arena from Kirby Triple Deluxe to be on here as the Kirby rep due to how disturbing/horrifying it gets in phase 2. Let me break it down Kirby's rematch against Queen Sectonia is a final showdown split into 2 phases, phase 1 is essentially the first phase of the final fight against the malevolent Insect-type Alien Queen from the main story only she has more health and her attacks do more damage basically somewhat of a cakewalk if you know what you're doing, phase 2 aka the final phase is where this rematch goes into the Kirby final boss trope of going from standard somewhat cutesy final boss into something I'd see in a really disturbing Survival-Horror game and by that I mean she's so filled with hatred and vengeance against Kirby that she rips off her own head and she now fights with you new powerful attacks all while holding her severed head that is still cackling manically all while purple blood is continuing to ooze out of the stump on her neck where head used to be.
I personally like the idea of the zant fight, I see the cutscene right before as symbolic: the serious demeanor always has him brandishing his mask, but when it is removed his true self is prevalent, his de-masking in the cutscene perfectly represents this, in such a subtle detail, and after all: you’ve foiled every countermeasure to keep you from reaching ganon, you would be a little nutty if no matter how hard you tried, they just kept coming.
“...a Kirby final boss where it tears out its own innards and beats you to death with them.” While that isn’t entirely exact, in Phase 2 of Star Allies’ final boss Void Termina you do get to battle an ACTUAL BEATING HEART that rains blood down upon you (and summons explosive floating runes)... which is jarring because the game is about making friends by throwing pink hearts at enemies to befriend them. Why wouldn’t they make a boss fight out of the actual body organ?
And let's not forget how at the start of the 2nd and final phase of the true final fight against Queen Sectonia at the end of The True Arena aka the fight against Soul of Sectonia/Sectonia Soul in Kirby Triple Deluxe the villainous insect-esque alien queen is consumed by her lust for vengeance against Kirby that she rips off her own head and now you have to fight her while she's holding her severed head that's still laughing manically and we get the extra disturbing/survival horror appropriate display of the stump of her neck still oozing purple blood.
On the subject of Kirby horror (though not related to blood), a scene from Godzilla vs Kong heavily reminded me of a terrifying thing that happened in, of all things, Kirby Planet Robobot. In order to not give any spoilers about the godsend of a movie that is GvK, I’ll just spoil my favorite Kirby game instead XD (...so, spoilers for a 5 yr old game?)
At the game’s end, as President Max Profitt Haltmann is activating the ultimate doomsday machine his company built, a system malfunction (caused by Susie) electro-fried his brain effectively rendering him a braindead robotic shell of a shell of his former self. However, the malfunction gave his machine, the final boss Star Dream, a consciousness... at the cost of his own. As the normal final fight plays out, Haltmann’s husk is still supposedly just sitting there at the control seat, right up until Kirby destroys Star Dream, Gurren Lagann-style, in a deep space explosion. The nightmare-fueled implications become even worse when you are fight the True Arena’s Star Dream Soul OS in its “Heart of Nova” phases, as you can hear the sounds of Haltmann wailing in pain every time you destroy any part of the heart. It’s Haltmann’s mind in the program, trapped, and suffering as Kirby rips and tears the rebuilt Nova’s core apart. And when the heart finally shatters, you hear one final, distorted, cry of anguish as the final remains of what used to be Haltmann’s soul are left to a fate of complete and utter obliteration with the heart’s destruction. Very little that I have seen in movies and games come anywhere near this level of “dark”, to the point where when something similarly dark pops up (like in GvK), I think of Kirby. This is why I love the Kirby franchise so much.
to be fair about pete, it was very clearly stated in kgh1 that it's donald who uses his magic in order to transform them into their alternate forms, so they can fit in better and don't draw too much attention, in order to protect the balances of the world and keep them a secret from each other. it's not something that just happens on its own. with that in mind, it's not weird for pete, who is a very clearly a bad guy -- and at least in this version not a very smart one at that --, not to bother with a disguise to fit in and just go in as he is, so there is some reasoning as to why he looks so much out of place. doesn't really explain the more cartoony nature of the battle, but it's not as random as it might seem at first.
I saw the Tonberry and had an immediate meltdown. The sight of one walking slowly towards your party to then go "doink" and insta-gib them was enough to trigger anxiety.
5:33 That sentence might be cliche but it really works there because you really feel he means it. That he will kill every single person in Hyrule if Zelda refused to surrender.
When I think out of place, the first game that comes to mind is Super Paper Mario. While it's story was dark, it's tone all over the place, and it's bosses definitely weird, two in particular stick out at me. This is a game where you fight some weird bosses, Robot Dragon, a brainwashed Luigi, brainwashed Luigi again, O'chunks, and a skeleton ice dragon from literal hell. But the second and third bosses. Francis. That fucking weaboo chameleon. Before you get to beat him up, he decides to try and woo Peach via DATING SIM. But he doesn't haunt my nightmares. She does. The sound of her neck breaking. Her haunting call of "Mimimimimimi...." while she's chasing you. And dear god, that appearance. I may hate Francis, but at least my brain let's me forget about him from time to time. But she doesn't leave.
A little something about your comment about not knowing anything about The Lord of Lightning and Crumbleden. The brochure in the pause menu gave us lore about the location. Apparently, the altar we fight the The Lord of Lightning on was built by the people before they died and it was speculated that its purpose was to fight a terrifying creature or whorship it for the power it provide for the kingdom. Probably cause by the said dragon himself.
I feel like the point of zant was to show that kind of breakdown, watching this calm menacing villain character that’s been a terrifying force up until that point suddenly breaks down and basically goes insane, which in my eyes just serves to unnerve the player.
I love howpeople tend to forget that the entire reason Sora changes forms is explained as being both Donald's magic and the special clothing he wears to fit in with the world order. Why would Pete, of all people, care about that and change to look like his past self?
One of my favorite out-of-place bosses is Ancient Wu in True Crime: Streets of LA. For most of the game, it's kind of like a reverse Grand Theft Auto, where you play as a cop fighting against criminals. So you're not really expecting anything out of the ordinary when you go to confront the Chinese Triad gang boss Ancient Wu. You sneak into his Chinese restaurant safehouse and start fighting his goons... Then a zombie shows up in the kitchen. And things are just getting STARTED. As you go deeper into the dark catacombs beneath the restaurant, you fight your way through even more zombies until you get to Ancient Wu's lair in a cavern filled with lava. There, he sics two fire demon concubines on you, followed by giant floating demon heads, and finally, a living breathing Chinese DRAGON. None of this is ever explained as an hallucination or a dream sequence or anything. For some reason, there's just an immortal Chinese sorcerer crimeboss living in present-day Los Angeles.
#2 also reminds me of an optional boss in Super Mario RPG, Culex, who can be found in "monstro town". he obviously crossed over from a Final Fantasy game. he even plays FF battle music when you fight him, AND the FF victory song if you win!
I mean I think I've seen Zant's type before. Calm, collected and intimidating turned crazy and insane. I never really questioned or complained about it, in fact I like the change
There's also a more general genre shift in "Story of the Blanks". True, Apple Bloom wandered off in the f[yaaaay] Everfree Forest, but it looks like a nice village (apart from the lack of cutie marks). Then Apple Bloom discovers the dark secret...
Just a quick thing, 'anachronistic' specifically means out of place chronologically. Watches in the medieval ages, for example, or using stone-tipped spears in modern wars.
Anachronistic does NOT mean out-of-place, it means in the wrong time. Like if you're seeing Big Mechanical machinery in Medieval times. The root "chrono" means time. The argument for Zant could be made that he was always the petty wacky boss (which his backstory reveals as much), but was on a false high when Ganondorf leant him his power, and the façade fell away when Link had thoroughly cut through most of the power and illusion. Also, you don't mention how Clock-La in one last death throe manages to cripple one of the team?
The beast queen could make it on a top ten Eldritch Abominations list. If you do one of those could you consider looking at the villain Caitiff from Dragonfable? That creature did more with less than Sepulchure (but he's still the best AE villain) even if unlike Sepulchure he doesn't curbstomp you in the end.
Yeah, I love that choice of the Lord of Lightning. When I made my way to the top of that tower, I was stunned, but I freaking loved it. Maybe it's just the Dark Souls in me...
25:01 *Josh:* "Godzilla?" "It looks like Godzilla, but, due to international copyright laws, it's not." "Still, we should run like it is Godzilla!" "Though it isn't."
I always thought that Nosk from Hollow knight was out of place. All the bosses are either giant versions of enemies or had something connected to the story like the Soul master, Hornet or the Mantis lords. Nosk is just some weird spider thing and there is literally no context to what he is. He has some bubble of infection and is almost completely black.
Personally, I find Zant to be really scary because of his two sided personality. Calm, collected, intimidating. Crazed, deranged, insane. Both are Zant. And both are what make him so terrifying.
He acts like Majora’s Mask.
Exactly, Zant was an amazing villain. The manga of Twilight Princess expands his story and shows more of his insanity
So that's why I'm confused about Josh's choice, this fits Zant since he is a psycho for power. All villains don't have to be calm and grounded to be an great character
@@conormcguire4306 pretty much
@@mastertjt56 manga is one thing. But his presence in the game is heavily underdeveloped and underutilized. More over, his characterization is completely rushed and out of place. I love Twilight Princess, but Zant is such a letdown of a villain.
@@mastertjt56 also I shouldn't have to read the manga, to understand context or in this case, a characters development in a game.
Zant is actually a case of an old trope called the villainous breakdown. He is normally calm and collected when things are going well for him but by the time of the fight, well the fertilizer has hit the fan from his perspective.
Unfortunately, they don't show his downfall. He goes from serious and conniving to childish and insane too fast.
@@sebastiancintron29 That's probably because Ganon is the main villain so there's not enough time to develop Zant as a character.
I’d say it still counts as an out of place boss if you walk in WHILE he’s snapping and have no context for why he’s snapping
@@WorldWeave Didn’t Link pretty much completely screw him over by this point though? He has basically retaken Hyrule Castle, and are finally about to beat him.
FF7R reactions from FF fans in general:
Oh look! They put a Tonberry in this!
OH GOD! They put a TONBERRY in this!
My same reaction lol
It may look cute and cuddly, until you get ohk’d by it’s knife
Yeah. I would had crapped myself if I had gotten that far. I stopped playing the game before that point. (Yeah, FF7R fan I am not even close to being. Dear God, I HATED that game.)
Do you suppose Josh knows that Tonberries feature in the Hell House fight on Hard Mode yet?
My Reaction: They brought ....a Tonberry? Oh S*Yay*T, Run!
11:20 Mad respect for Clockwerk as one of the more intimidating bosses in a seemingly child friendly video game. Seriously, the idea of a guy being kept alive simply because of his incalculable hatred for a single family is both insane and cool at the same time.
Too bad we'll never know why, because we haven't seen a new game since Thieves in Time, and that left on a cliffhanger
If only Sony could get off their bums and give us a new game for that series already!!!!
Seeing Josh talk about Sly Cooper made me really happy.
Clockwerk is badass, he honestly was an interesting character and boss
@@jordanhunter3375 I only want a sequel if it IMMEIATELY fixes the shitty Penelope retcon
Also on Clock-La...
Her final battle has LONG TERM CONSEQUENCES. Because she *crippled Bentley*
I forgot about that, Bentley needs his legs
That moment where he says "Pick me up! I can't walk!" made my heart stop.
@Ashmander yep
The thing about darkling is that he is not a shadowy enemy, he is actually a dark reflection and one of the most reflective surfaces in nature is water.
*insert persona 4 joke here*
Besides, we all LOVED Dead Hand so much we just HAD to have a rematch with him. (Note my sarcasm)
That's actually something I thought about, too. It's like he was born out of Link's reflection in the water. Kid Icarus Uprising did something similar by having Dark Pit be born out of Pit's reflection in a mirror, although he's less villain and more moody anti-hero.
@@VGamingJunkieVT well you're not completely wrong about the reflection thing with darkling from the water temple in Ocarina of Time oh, he's a little Dylan thing about it while you're walking across the water once you get to the little Island at the center and then just keep moving you'll see that links reflection is no longer there.
We all knew Lord of Lightning in Odyssey would make the Top Three.
Right. I know Mario has faced of against a dragon.
But an actual dragon?!
@@christianruffin1342 Being unique but a little TOO realistic (in the same lines as Dark Souls, Monster Hunter, Skyrim, etc.), especially since Mario is known for being outright silly and cartoony, I know! (Not gonna lie though, I actually liked the actual fight against it - regardless of anachronism)
@@thetalltitan2235 Do you think it was a reference to Charles M. (Mario's English VA) playing a dragon in Skyrim?
@@jordanhunter3375 Likely considering the first thing that came to mind was Paarthurnax, I was kind of expecting to hear dohva shouted out at some point
Jordan Hunter we could always ask Nintendo cause THAT’S an interesting theory ya got.
The funny thing about Sonic and Black Knight is that whenever I play it, I can't help but to think that the person who was writing this game must have really liked Fate/Stay Night... cause Death being Inevitable is that Series' Bread and Butter
EX-CALIBUR
Fun fact: Mario's voice actor once voiced a dragon from Skyrim
Paarthurnax, everyone knows that
@@deathbykonami5487 I just mentioned it since there was an entry in this countdown where he talked about Mario fighting a realistic dragon which reminded me of the fact that Mario's voice actor voiced a dragon in Skyrim
True, true. I guess the "Lord of Lightning" was pretty much an inevitability, then. Surprised it took the length of time between Skyrim and Super Mario Odyssey to make it happen, but, hey...better late than never, eh? XD
@@bluestreaker9242 I wonder what a cartoony version of The Lord of lightning would look like
@@liamstark5982 I hope it made lotsa lightning
10. Somehow, I knew Photoshop Flowey was going to be on here somewhere. I didn't expect it to be so low, but I expected it to be here.
9. Zant sticks out so much and I LOVE it. I think the reason he managed to stay calm and collected for as long as he did was because he always felt like he had the upper hand.
8. I honestly didn't think too much about how out of place the Pete fight actually was at the time but I really see it now.
7. I haven't played FF7R, but I know enough about Tonberries to know that I do not want to mess with that thing before I'm ready. Side note, my group recently started playing Pathfinder and I have a character build in reserve that I nicknamed "The Tonberry" for good reason.
6. Clock-La was both completely, and not expected at all. I agree with your assessment that the entire chapter is effectively the bossfight since it's the only time in the series where the boss can take potshots at you the whole chapter.
5. Haven't played Drakengard. But the insanity you described does sound like something Yoko Taro would make.
4. 02. What is it with Kirby and having final bosses that would not be out of place in some horror games?
3. It is so strange to watch a Sonic game wax philosophical but somehow it does not bother me here.
2. When the Lord of Lightning popped up, I immediately paused the game and had to ask myself why there was a Dark Souls boss in Mario all of a sudden. You have Cartoony monster, Cartoony Monster, Cartoony Monster, photo-realistic dragon. One of these is not like the other.
1. That was bizarre... Nothing else to say here.
I wonder if the Lord of Lightning in Odyssey was actually meant to be a loose reference to The Elder Scrolls franchise. Stay with me on this:
Charles Martinet did the voice of Parthannax in Skyrim. Since he's the voice of Mario, I figured this was actively meant to chain the two roles together, albeit loosely (as previously stated).
And Lord of Lightning is just straight up the elder brother to Martinet's character in Skyrim, and his enemy. Alduin. The design is literally the goddamned same.
Tonberry isn't always an enemy. In FF14 you actually do a questline where you rescue a small city full of them and they turn out to be friendly, and in the scholar questline you find out some Lalafel got turned into them and you start trying to help find a cure for their condition.
And don't you summon a Tonberry or have one as a guardian force in FF8?
but the MAJORITY of the time, and the way they were introduced, was as powerful late game enemies.
This is, as far as I know, the only time a tonberry has been an actual boss fight, however.
@@sarafontanini7051
Yup, my first encounter with them was, well, FF7 in the northern cave, where they creep up and then STAB!
@@adrianasmithy664 It a both a summon(GF) and an enemy.
Speaking of FFXIV, they just added the final dungeon of the NIer raid, and it is pretty damn freaky.
Not kidding, I legit did a spit take at the pennywise "MEME ME!" joke.
I didn’t know it...
Thanks, FireBro!
XD
Zant: Oh, now what?!
Midna: Are you sure you're not suppose to be at all funny?
Zant: What? Its a scary dance of evil! ...
Link: Yeah, especially when you play this over it.
@@deltaket6485 I lost with the "MY ROFLCOPTER" part.
Thanks Doug walker
I feel like that's the point with Zant. Like he goes to all this trouble to make himself look and sound scary in order to frighten Hyrule's defenders into submission, desperate to conceal the fact that he's just... a guy. A wimpy, high-strung guy driven mad by his imprisonment in the Twilight Realm who hides his lack of badassery behind a helmet and cloak. Like Dark Helmet in Spaceballs.
No Giygas? I guess Earthbound did get an honorable mention but still...
I’ve seen people hate on Zant’s boss seeing it as a huge character assassination
I mean, Animal Crossing and Monster Hunter crossed over. So...Isabelle is a dragon killing doggo.
Thank you for making this a reality, Smash
@@datanotfoundpleasetryagain3559 This was before Smash, my guy. Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate :D
For Real?
@@FirithPanda *GENIE JAW DROP*
@@FirithPanda I know. But I still made my case that with Smash, Isabelle is now a -wyvern- dragon killing doggo
I was really depressed but watching a new Firey Joker video always make me smile. So thank you Josh!
Was in the same boat
Same
Glad y’all are Feeling better now
Josh: Talking about Sonic and the Black Knight in a positive light.
Apology accepted.
Still think he's too harsh on Unleashed, though.
@@TF2Fan101 yeah
I enjoyed the final boss. 👍
Unleashed was another good game, and oddball sure in it's own right but still a good game
@@TF2Fan101 everyone is but there are a few people who actually enjoy Unleashed fully
I didn't know what a Tonberry was when I first saw it in the remake of FFVII. My brother did though and thought I was crazy. Yes, I had played the original FFVII and had seen FFX and X-2 but had never even saw a Tonberry
Oh my poor child...
@@gamingdemigodxiii5630 don't remind me, I felt ashamed of myself too
They made their first appearance in FFV. In Istory Falls Cave. Nearly every entry afterwards has them. In X, they're especially terrifying. Don't Summon any Aeons.
XIII has 2 Ci'eth Stone missions involving them.
Tonberry; living proof that size doesn't matter when it comes to strength and terror. Well mostly terror.
Surprised Mother Beast Lusamine from Pokémon Sun and Moon wasn't on here. You're all set to throw down with her like you have with every other boss, every other *foe* in the series, and what does she do? Merges with space jellyfish to become an eldrich monstrocity that somehow has the ability to grant her team a totem aura. Granted then you still fight her pokemon instead of her but still, it's INCREDIBLY disturbing and followed up by a scene where she tries to kill her own daughter only to nearly die herself when the jellyfish un-merge after an attack from Nebby.
They should have made that fight to where once her pokémon were dealt with, you had to attack her directly.
@@AzureMoebius22 Oh totally. God that was a disappointment that you never fought her directly.
@@AzureMoebius22 Thought that would've been cool to face, I can understand, from a story aspect, why that wasn't the case.
Lillie was determined to bring her mother back from Ultra Space and restore her good will, having our help for when battling's necessary. However, if we were to attack Lusamine directly, then we would be going against Lillie's wishes. The only reason why the game's Legendary attacked her is because desperate times called for desperate measures.
@@psychie8625 More accurately, attacking the Nihilego that was making her crazy and forcing it to release its hold on her.
@@AzureMoebius22 Kinda hard to do that when they've fused together. At that point, they're just one being. Even if you aren't directly hitting the Lusamine part, you'd still be attacking her.
The clip at the start had to be intentional, given you're military
“Feels too grim for this game.”
So what’s the genocide run then?
We don’t talk about the Genocide Run
@@starvoltnexus3139 heh you CAN'T FORGET CHARA
well the genocide route isn't something most players will see, especially in their first time playing, and the route by itself is SUPPOSED to feel darker and more grim and horrific
I dunno I could also point to the fact that the entire plot hinges on Asgore trying to rip your soul out, the fact he’s doing it because his children died, his first son brutally murdered, the monsters being pretty much prisoners in the underground, there’s a lot of grim stuff in Undertale so it’s still a bit of an off statement to me
Oh! Alphys’ abomination experiments made up of her fellow monsters, Toriel desperate to save every child but ultimately helpless each time until Frisk comes
So Web Bat is a ripoff of Spider-Man and Batman and they somehow got away with it interesting
25:36 ok apparently they did get permission but I don't think they got permission for Batman
Villian songs month?
(Ahem)
I AM THE E.G.G.M.A.N.! THAT'S WHAT I AM, I AM THE E.G.G.M.A.N.! I GOT THE MASTER PLAN!
(Ahem)
*Fury Bowser gibberish intensifies*
(Ahem)
SEPHIROTH!
@@matthewcorrie3324 (ahem)
*King Olly theme intensifies*
(Ahem)
Snatcher theme blares from speakers. "AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!
FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!"
(ahem)
IIIIII AAAAAM the Grrreat Mighty Pooooo...
and i'm going to thrrrow my shit at yooooou...
In honor of the announcement for next month... (deep inhale)
🎵 Every villain prides themselves
On rightly doing wrong.
But one thing EVERY bad guy needs,
Is an awesome,
Villain,
SOOOOOONNNNNGGGGG!🎵
Question, what are these lyrics based on?
@@matthewgillis6366 It's from this : ruclips.net/video/soj3XPLLZyw/видео.html
🎵 We villains don't possess the greatest record
The heroes always chance a victory
But I can clearly tell why these 2-bit villains fail
It's for the simple fact that they're not me 🎵
I have ideas for future boss countdowns:
*Top 10 Doppelganger Bosses
*Top 10 Cheating Bosses
*Top 10 Most Disgusting Bosses
Cheating? Explain if you’re ok with it?
@@braverydoesstuff4063: By Cheating Bosses, I am referring to bosses that will cheat or use unfair tactics in their battles.
Here are some examples:
*Mitch Connor - South Park: The Fractured But Whole
-He's basically the equivalent of that one guy who goes "Nuh-uh, didn't hurt me. I'm immune." As sometimes during the fight he can just declare that some attacks just didn't damage him at all! He'll also give himself extra turns for cheap shots, inflict status effects he shouldn't be able to (on the entire party no less), steal your turn if you take to long, and he is also the only boss in the game who uses deflector shields. And whatever you do, DON'T ATTACK HIM WHILE THE SHIELD IS UP! Any damage dealt to him while the shield is up will instead damage the attacker! Your best bet (which you SHOULD USE) is to just stack as many damaging status effects as possible as he wont be able to declare that they don't hurt him.
What's more, you have to fight him AGAIN at the end of the game. Difference here is that after a while, even Dr. Timothy gets fed up with Connor refusing to stay dead and just takes away his ability to cheat so you can finish him off.
*Shadow Sae - Persona 5
-As Sae's Palace is a casino where every game is rigged in her favor so only she can win, it only makes sense the first part of the fight is a rigged roulette wheel. If you try to attack her during the betting, you'll take substantial damage yourself. It's only when you expose Sae's cheating and corner her does the battle truly begin. At this point, Sae blows her top, transforms and is done messing around. Willing to do whatever it takes to beat the Phantom Thieves.
What's more, in Persona 5 Royal, after Sae transforms, the roulette wheel will change and represent different damage types. These will determine her resistances and what attacks she'll have.
*Azazel - Tekken 6
-Some of your attacks (even if you directly hit Azazel) WON'T DAMAGE HIM! He DEFINITELY isn't blocking during these points and there are no invincibility frames, but just like Mitch Conner, he can just decide at whatever point to be impervious to damage.
*Night Terror - Soulcalibur 3
-You can't ring him out! Do that and he'll just fly back up to the arena!
*Tabuu - Super Smash Bros Brawl
-Why? It's that DAMN WING AOE ATTACK! It might as well be an instakill and it covers the ENTIRE SCREEN! Every time I fight him I have to PRAY HE DOESN'T USE IT!
*High Max - Megaman X6
-He is supposed to be weak to Blaze Heatnix's weapon. But get this... High Max is IMMUNE TO ALL OF YOUR ATTACKS! The only way to damage him is to use a very specific method. You need to shoot him with a fully charged buster shot and then quickly follow up with another attack, like Blaze Heatnix's Magma Blade.
Question is... HOW IN THE HOLY MOTHER OF F*** WERE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT? There was ABSOLUTELY NO INDICATION given that you had to use THIS SPECIFIC STRATEGY to defeat him before hand, and if you don't know what to do here, its impossible!
Doppelgänger bosses is gonna be difficult without including “Dark” Bosses. (i.e. Dark Link)
@@andrewhaase1826 Don't forget Xell from Jingi Storm The Arcade - He takes reduced amounts of damage and deals increased amounts of damage, Some of his attacks guard break instantly, And explosive barrier attack and has different types of projectiles
"Now all we need is a kirby boss that tears out its own innards and beats you to death with them."
Well...I mean...you kind of tear the innards out of the final boss in Star Allies. If you wanted dark kirby games, I recommend this one. Both the happiest and darkest game in the series.
Yayyy, I get to be pedantic with a RUclipsr whose content I really enjoy again!
"Anachronistic" refers specifically to something seeming out of place in terms of time period or chronology. Seeing a car in a medieval setting would be Anachronistic.
OK, pedantry done, great video!
If you need an extra week to adjust the DnD videos, I understand. In any case, here's the new content
10. Yeah I was unsure if I was playing the same game when I saw this boss
9. Here's some depravity from one of the best zelda villains
8. Oh! Didn't expect this Kingdom Hearts entry. Oh ha ha!
7. Now here's a boss I didn't know about from this great game.
6. Eh not my pick from this series but hey this ain't my list
5. Yeah this series is nuts. I learned that just from Nier and it's sequel.
4. Figured as much from this series.
3. Dang straight! Merlina is the best female villain in the sonic series hands down!
2. Yeah what is monster hunter/elder scrolls doing in my mario game?
1. Okay I understand why the lord of lightning was number 2. What is spiderman doing in a ninja game? I know he's an accidental ninja but come on!
And next month is an evil time for us all! We're going to be busy in May.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and disagree [somewhat] about Zant; see, throughout the game, he has indeed been shown to be an imposing, menacing figure, and that moment...that freaky moment (that Ghirahim may or may not have totally definitely absolutely stole XD) where Zant monologues with Link & Midna, is that brief moment where he lets the mask slip (figuratively AND literally), just slightly, to show that he has control, absolutely craves it, and freaking RELISHES it. When you get to the very end, he finally unleashes the insanity that's been bubbling since you, as the hero, revealed yourself to be a legitimate threat to his plans unraveling. All told, I wouldn't say him acting so...pardon my French...bat-shit insane, is out-of-character: rather, unexpected. Though I will agree that, compared to the remainder of the lineup of bosses at Twilight Princess's disposal, yes, he sticks out like the sorest of sore thumbs. Seriously, who the HELL saw THAT coming!? We go from intimidating, supreme lord of the in-between, to a coked-up Looney Tune that has more screws loose than a piece of Ikea furniture that's been spilled out the back-end of a cargo jet! Just...WHAT THE HECK-A-RONI AM I EVEN LOOKING AT!? O.o
The problem with Zant is how quickly it happens. There needed to be more time to flesh out such a change. He goes from serious to crazy way too fast and before you have time to process this insanity, he gets thrown away just to have Ganandorf show up as a final boss. Both these villains needed more time to shine and unfortunately, they never give them such time.
8:57 Let me guess....its the dance off at the Honeybee Inn (or whatever the name was)
9:10 .................OH NO........
DAMMIT
How does that freaking flower keep POPPING UP IN THESE LISTS?!??
This thing is on its way to rivaling the appearance of KINGDOM EFFING HEARTS ON THIS CHANNEL!!!
Well Flowey hits the criteria for a lot of his lists. Not to mention Photoshop Flowey is as out of place as you can get
Kingdom Hearts was 1 of the most popular PS2 Games of all time from what I remember.
14:45 An artist's interpretation of Drakengard's final battle.
Oh hey Count Shaman I really enjoyed the colab video you two did a bit ago!😊
That was your handiwork? Considering how bonkers Drakengard/Nier can get... Nice job.
oh I remember seeing Tonberry and being like "OH CRAP DO I HAVE ENOUGH PHOENIX DOWNS I DON'T THINK I HAVE ENOUGH I'VE BEEN POPPING THEM LIKE CANDY"
Actually, Batman does summon bats quite often. It was a big thing in Batman Begins where he used them to cover his escape from Arkham, his "heroic brutality" from Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe was him placing a hypersonic beacon on his opponent and letting the bats at him and summoning a swarm of bats is an unlockable combat move from the Arkham game.
Tomberry: In time you will know what its like to lose. To feel so desperate that you're right, yet fail all the same. Dread it, run from it, destiny still arrives.
I like your icon. Did you draw it yourself? If not who did?
How much you guys wanna bet there's gonna be a mlp song in the Villain song list
That's a sucker bet and you know it.
It'll be This Day Aria.
There's a lot of great villain songs that I wouldn't even be mad if the MLP ones (while also great songs) don't make the list.
I'm betting This Day Aria and Under Our Spell because DANG THOSE TWO SONGS ARE GREAT!
@@braverydoesstuff4063
Open Up Your Eyes is a great song even if the visuals aren't the best. A Better Way to Be Bad is a ton of fun.
I actually find Zant to be a very interesting boss in every respect. And the fact that his personality ONLY exists as one extreme of the other is what makes him one of the most intimidating Zelda bosses. When he's calm and collected, you can at least get a read on what he might do next, but when that cool head turns to deranged jealousy and spite, he's impossible to predict and even to this day, I have a hard time dealing with him
"Don't think too hard about this. It is going to hurt and that's what Kingdom Hearts wants."
I mean, from what I've heard about the franchise, that's just Kingdom Hearts summed up right there!
24:11 Because the room you fight Dark Link in is full of water, and you can't see your shadow in this pool of water. Makes a lot of sense actually.
It's about time Josh talked about Sonic and the Black Knight in a positive light.
Rhyme not intentional.
I still love Sonic and The Black Knight :)
Even as someone who is still *fairly* new to Final Fantasy, even I know how to feel fear the second either a Malboro in this case a Tonberry appears...
Did Behemoths strike fear into you yet?
@@DarkFrozenDepths SUrprisngly no. I know they're pretty tough enemies but from the FF games I've played, VI and extremely recently IX, they werent TOO bad. The Bravely Default one though was pretty rough but in fairness it WAS in a boss form where its expected to be tough.
@@Apolleh Some of the FF13 ones was a pain to take on...
especially the one at the end of FF13-2... It was literally hitting as hard as some DLC superbosses...
To keep it at least a *little bit* kid-friendly, maybe the Kirby boss that would beat you with their own innards could be based on a sea cucumber; somewhat like Pyukumuku. It does do the same thing, so I could see that. May be gruesome to think about, but it is what sea cucumbers actually do, and what Pyukumuku replicates.
Maybe the Lord of Lightning was Nintendo's shout-out to the fact that Charles Martinet also voiced Paarthurnax in Skyrim?
Me: Okay, I’m covered in wounds from shaving so now I can sle-
*new video from Josh*
Me: Sleep is over-rated
you need a better razor
"Now we just need a Kirby final boss where it just tears out its own innards and beats you to death with them!"
Void Termina comes pretty close to this, you literally rip up its beating heart as blood rains on you from the ceiling
Then there's chaos elfilis from forgotten land, literally a giant drop of blood filled with anger and crazy.
tbh I heard the joke about the Kirby boss that tears out its own innards and beats you to death with them and I immediately thought of Void Termina from Star Allies with how its true form is contained inside of it, basically in a soft fleshy shell to replicate a real beating heart.
also *wAIT, THE LORD OF LIGHTNING JUST MELLOWS OUT AFTER YOU BEAT HIM?! WE GOT A GOOD BOY???*
This episode was great, and the top three made me smile. While I am upset that the bosses are now going away, for now, the next category is very promising.
Great video Firery Joker.
Josh: My writer put that in as a joke, but I can see it happening.
Me: Yes, Nintendo already did that, it called Pyukumuku. Thanks Pokemon.
Time?
18:35 You’re welcome.
Finishing my birthday with a Joshscorcher countdown how wonderful
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
Happy birthday
@@shadowlinkbds thank you so much everyone I appreciate it.
Happy birthday
happy birthday
1:11 Is that...Tales of Graces f? SOMEONE ELSE KNOWS ABOUT THIS GAME?! Thank you, Josh. You've given me hope.
I'm gonna be curious where he ranks songs like Hellfire or Be Prepared.
Or In The Dark Of The Night (Anatasia)
@@jordanhunter3375 or Toxic Love
Friends on the Other Side
Or Fury Bowser
@@ericwijaya2119 Or Shockwave's theme from Transformers Devastation
Kinda surprised you went over Clock-La and didn't mention her crippling Bentley. It's post-battle, but it really highlights the unexpected seriousness of her presence in the franchise
The interesting thing is that believe it or not, Mario's voice actor also did the voice of Parthranax in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. I don't know if they were just poking fun at that fact in Mario Odyssey or what, but I like it either way lol :D
Merlina is probably the best villain-of-the-week in the Sonic franchise. She’s unique, has an actual motivation other than “destroy everything/take over the world”, makes Sonic think about his own actions, and has a kickass final boss battle and theme. Granted, she doesn’t have much competition, as most other Sonic villains are either polarizing (Neo Metal Sonic, Mephiles, Infinite) or mostly disliked (Black Doom, the Deadly Six, Eggman Nega).
Eggman Nega is supposed to be an even more insane & evil Eggman that Blaze normally fights, I thought people liked him. As for Metal Sonic & Mephiles I thought they were 2 of the most well liked villains in the series. Merlina is easily the deepest & most complex antagonist that Sonic ever fought. You are right about the Deadly 6 being the most despised characters in the Sonic Series at this point.
4:35
Looking back Twilight Princess actually has amazing animations for a Gamecube game. I mean the way Midna moves and expresses herself looks very impressive even today. Zant is not as animated but his model is incredibly high poly and very detailed.
I expect at least one final boss from the kirby list here. After all most of them are pretty dark and disturbing especially from the older games. Looking at the Zero/Dark Matter ones especially.
I was mostly expecting the true final boss the rematch against the revived Queen Sectonia at the end of The True Arena from Kirby Triple Deluxe to be on here as the Kirby rep due to how disturbing/horrifying it gets in phase 2.
Let me break it down Kirby's rematch against Queen Sectonia is a final showdown split into 2 phases, phase 1 is essentially the first phase of the final fight against the malevolent Insect-type Alien Queen from the main story only she has more health and her attacks do more damage basically somewhat of a cakewalk if you know what you're doing, phase 2 aka the final phase is where this rematch goes into the Kirby final boss trope of going from standard somewhat cutesy final boss into something I'd see in a really disturbing Survival-Horror game and by that I mean she's so filled with hatred and vengeance against Kirby that she rips off her own head and she now fights with you new powerful attacks all while holding her severed head that is still cackling manically all while purple blood is continuing to ooze out of the stump on her neck where head used to be.
17:53 The word you're looking for is "Albino", not "Albanian". Albania is a country.
I personally like the idea of the zant fight, I see the cutscene right before as symbolic: the serious demeanor always has him brandishing his mask, but when it is removed his true self is prevalent, his de-masking in the cutscene perfectly represents this, in such a subtle detail, and after all: you’ve foiled every countermeasure to keep you from reaching ganon, you would be a little nutty if no matter how hard you tried, they just kept coming.
#10: Introducing, the king of cartoons! Thank you AVGN
“...a Kirby final boss where it tears out its own innards and beats you to death with them.”
While that isn’t entirely exact, in Phase 2 of Star Allies’ final boss Void Termina you do get to battle an ACTUAL BEATING HEART that rains blood down upon you (and summons explosive floating runes)... which is jarring because the game is about making friends by throwing pink hearts at enemies to befriend them. Why wouldn’t they make a boss fight out of the actual body organ?
And let's not forget how at the start of the 2nd and final phase of the true final fight against Queen Sectonia at the end of The True Arena aka the fight against Soul of Sectonia/Sectonia Soul in Kirby Triple Deluxe the villainous insect-esque alien queen is consumed by her lust for vengeance against Kirby that she rips off her own head and now you have to fight her while she's holding her severed head that's still laughing manically and we get the extra disturbing/survival horror appropriate display of the stump of her neck still oozing purple blood.
On the subject of Kirby horror (though not related to blood), a scene from Godzilla vs Kong heavily reminded me of a terrifying thing that happened in, of all things, Kirby Planet Robobot. In order to not give any spoilers about the godsend of a movie that is GvK, I’ll just spoil my favorite Kirby game instead XD
(...so, spoilers for a 5 yr old game?)
At the game’s end, as President Max Profitt Haltmann is activating the ultimate doomsday machine his company built, a system malfunction (caused by Susie) electro-fried his brain effectively rendering him a braindead robotic shell of a shell of his former self. However, the malfunction gave his machine, the final boss Star Dream, a consciousness... at the cost of his own. As the normal final fight plays out, Haltmann’s husk is still supposedly just sitting there at the control seat, right up until Kirby destroys Star Dream, Gurren Lagann-style, in a deep space explosion.
The nightmare-fueled implications become even worse when you are fight the True Arena’s Star Dream Soul OS in its “Heart of Nova” phases, as you can hear the sounds of Haltmann wailing in pain every time you destroy any part of the heart. It’s Haltmann’s mind in the program, trapped, and suffering as Kirby rips and tears the rebuilt Nova’s core apart. And when the heart finally shatters, you hear one final, distorted, cry of anguish as the final remains of what used to be Haltmann’s soul are left to a fate of complete and utter obliteration with the heart’s destruction.
Very little that I have seen in movies and games come anywhere near this level of “dark”, to the point where when something similarly dark pops up (like in GvK), I think of Kirby. This is why I love the Kirby franchise so much.
"Well I tell you folks, last time a kids game got this dark, I was playing Kirby!"
This is basically me when I played Origami King
to be fair about pete, it was very clearly stated in kgh1 that it's donald who uses his magic in order to transform them into their alternate forms, so they can fit in better and don't draw too much attention, in order to protect the balances of the world and keep them a secret from each other. it's not something that just happens on its own. with that in mind, it's not weird for pete, who is a very clearly a bad guy -- and at least in this version not a very smart one at that --, not to bother with a disguise to fit in and just go in as he is, so there is some reasoning as to why he looks so much out of place.
doesn't really explain the more cartoony nature of the battle, but it's not as random as it might seem at first.
That doesn't explain why pete transforms for the other worlds like he did for the Pride Lands.
I saw the Tonberry and had an immediate meltdown.
The sight of one walking slowly towards your party to then go "doink" and insta-gib them was enough to trigger anxiety.
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That sentence might be cliche but it really works there because you really feel he means it. That he will kill every single person in Hyrule if Zelda refused to surrender.
Fighting a Bat-man and a "Spider-man" sounds like they were taking a page out of Kamen Rider's book.
When I think out of place, the first game that comes to mind is Super Paper Mario. While it's story was dark, it's tone all over the place, and it's bosses definitely weird, two in particular stick out at me. This is a game where you fight some weird bosses, Robot Dragon, a brainwashed Luigi, brainwashed Luigi again, O'chunks, and a skeleton ice dragon from literal hell.
But the second and third bosses.
Francis. That fucking weaboo chameleon. Before you get to beat him up, he decides to try and woo Peach via DATING SIM.
But he doesn't haunt my nightmares.
She does.
The sound of her neck breaking. Her haunting call of "Mimimimimimi...." while she's chasing you. And dear god, that appearance.
I may hate Francis, but at least my brain let's me forget about him from time to time.
But she doesn't leave.
Ah Drakengard... The start of Yokotaro's insanity that he shares with the world
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Season 9 King Sombra in a nutshell.
I... I can’t deny that. Dang.
A little something about your comment about not knowing anything about The Lord of Lightning and Crumbleden. The brochure in the pause menu gave us lore about the location. Apparently, the altar we fight the The Lord of Lightning on was built by the people before they died and it was speculated that its purpose was to fight a terrifying creature or whorship it for the power it provide for the kingdom. Probably cause by the said dragon himself.
5:15 - 5:22 That made me laugh way too hard.
Never thought I'd hear Josh say "Nani the F*ck?!" x'D
I feel like the point of zant was to show that kind of breakdown, watching this calm menacing villain character that’s been a terrifying force up until that point suddenly breaks down and basically goes insane, which in my eyes just serves to unnerve the player.
I love howpeople tend to forget that the entire reason Sora changes forms is explained as being both Donald's magic and the special clothing he wears to fit in with the world order. Why would Pete, of all people, care about that and change to look like his past self?
One of my favorite out-of-place bosses is Ancient Wu in True Crime: Streets of LA. For most of the game, it's kind of like a reverse Grand Theft Auto, where you play as a cop fighting against criminals. So you're not really expecting anything out of the ordinary when you go to confront the Chinese Triad gang boss Ancient Wu. You sneak into his Chinese restaurant safehouse and start fighting his goons...
Then a zombie shows up in the kitchen.
And things are just getting STARTED.
As you go deeper into the dark catacombs beneath the restaurant, you fight your way through even more zombies until you get to Ancient Wu's lair in a cavern filled with lava. There, he sics two fire demon concubines on you, followed by giant floating demon heads, and finally, a living breathing Chinese DRAGON.
None of this is ever explained as an hallucination or a dream sequence or anything. For some reason, there's just an immortal Chinese sorcerer crimeboss living in present-day Los Angeles.
Thanks Joshie ! I had a feeling that flowy had been on the list
You added ERBH Teddy Roosevelt’s “WHATS UP B!$The$!!!” For neutral fight.
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It took me by surprise.
Love the fact that he mentioned the Great Ace Attorney at the end when shortly afterwards, the game was announced to get a western release
Hello, Dancing Mad, several Kirby songs, and potentially the Great Mighty Poo
Man, I haven't seen Joshscorcher in a few years. Glad to see you still doing well!
#2 also reminds me of an optional boss in Super Mario RPG, Culex, who can be found in "monstro town".
he obviously crossed over from a Final Fantasy game.
he even plays FF battle music when you fight him, AND the FF victory song if you win!
Josh: Goes to do a Villain Song Month
ME; (HAPPY NOISES)
I mean I think I've seen Zant's type before. Calm, collected and intimidating turned crazy and insane.
I never really questioned or complained about it, in fact I like the change
I'd be surprised if no one asked you to review "Them's Fightin Herds".
As far as I know, no one has
There's also a more general genre shift in "Story of the Blanks". True, Apple Bloom wandered off in the f[yaaaay] Everfree Forest, but it looks like a nice village (apart from the lack of cutie marks). Then Apple Bloom discovers the dark secret...
I was NOT Expecting the music Doug used for Pennywise's dance in his review of IT. XD
Thank you for talking about Shinobi
Just a quick thing, 'anachronistic' specifically means out of place chronologically. Watches in the medieval ages, for example, or using stone-tipped spears in modern wars.
#4: Zero, also known as Penny-eye... I'm sorry, I'll leave
Anachronistic does NOT mean out-of-place, it means in the wrong time. Like if you're seeing Big Mechanical machinery in Medieval times. The root "chrono" means time. The argument for Zant could be made that he was always the petty wacky boss (which his backstory reveals as much), but was on a false high when Ganondorf leant him his power, and the façade fell away when Link had thoroughly cut through most of the power and illusion. Also, you don't mention how Clock-La in one last death throe manages to cripple one of the team?
The beast queen could make it on a top ten Eldritch Abominations list. If you do one of those could you consider looking at the villain Caitiff from Dragonfable? That creature did more with less than Sepulchure (but he's still the best AE villain) even if unlike Sepulchure he doesn't curbstomp you in the end.
Number 1: “No copyright law in the universe is going to stop me!”
Before video: wait, I don't get it.
After video: Oh now I get it.
Yeah, I love that choice of the Lord of Lightning. When I made my way to the top of that tower, I was stunned, but I freaking loved it. Maybe it's just the Dark Souls in me...
God Hand. Literally any boss battle in that game has no aesthetic connection with any other.
Thank you for including a Kirby boss
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*Josh:* "Godzilla?"
"It looks like Godzilla, but, due to international copyright laws, it's not."
"Still, we should run like it is Godzilla!"
"Though it isn't."
The funny thing about using Paarthernax' voice there in that joke is that he's also voiced by Charles Martinet, the voice of Mario.
THANK YOU so much for adding the dark queen from Sonic and the Black knight. She is actually my favorite final boss in sonic games.
I always thought that Nosk from Hollow knight was out of place. All the bosses are either giant versions of enemies or had something connected to the story like the Soul master, Hornet or the Mantis lords. Nosk is just some weird spider thing and there is literally no context to what he is. He has some bubble of infection and is almost completely black.
Tales of bersteria has those mini Bosses for no reason.
Josh: What if you were playing a happy sweet game then a HORROR COMES OUT OF NO WHERE
Kirby: *HEAVY BREATHING*