The Moment That Made Undertale Famous

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  • @wileycoyote7481
    @wileycoyote7481 Год назад +7733

    I feel a very underrated scene is if you do multiple genocide routes in a row, even Chara, the very character who guides you through the genocide route, will call you out, telling you to do something else

    • @minestar2247
      @minestar2247 Год назад +598

      Well, they also guide you throu all the 51 other routes

    • @1_argon_198
      @1_argon_198 Год назад +500

      They tell you you’re perverted with power lul

    • @titan7789
      @titan7789 Год назад +742

      "bro i thought this was for power what are you doing"

    • @duckinsaneguy6102
      @duckinsaneguy6102 Год назад +218

      @@titan7789frisk terrorist confirmed

    • @minestar2247
      @minestar2247 Год назад +93

      @@1_argon_198 Yes, why would you repeat it again and again ?

  • @CB0516
    @CB0516 Год назад +5439

    another thing to add, in the asgore encounter, the mercy button's gone, but he never broke it.

    • @thehayze259
      @thehayze259  Год назад +1871

      Oh, that's really interesting... this time, YOU'RE the one getting rid of it

    • @LeEvoliX.mp4
      @LeEvoliX.mp4 11 месяцев назад +143

      But when did Frisk destroyd the button?

    • @Yulaeditor
      @Yulaeditor 11 месяцев назад +53

      Who knows

    • @Puffball2763times
      @Puffball2763times 11 месяцев назад +174

      ​@@LeEvoliX.mp4it may be getting to lv 20

    • @luvas_205
      @luvas_205 11 месяцев назад +43

      he literally breaks it with the trident, i don't understand

  • @LaWrennie
    @LaWrennie 11 месяцев назад +2609

    "do you think even the worst person can change? that everyone can be a good person, if they just try?" Sans is more reminding you about his brother. Because that's exactly what Papyrus said you could do. That's why Sans humorlessly laughs after. He's probably feeling defeated by how niave his brother truly was for thinking the best of you. But he isn't going to let you forget him either.

    • @thehayze259
      @thehayze259  11 месяцев назад +357

      Wow, another cool thing I completely missed

    • @AzureRadio
      @AzureRadio 10 месяцев назад +67

      I choose to view it more as hopeful.
      He knows in this time line you are too far gone, but maybe he can convince you to feel love in the others you inevitably start. Sans found kinship with Toriel, maybe Papyrus could do the same for you in another life, which in all honesty he does in the Pacifist Route.

    • @VoltaicNebulae
      @VoltaicNebulae 10 месяцев назад +29

      Honestly this phrase helps me with my mental health. It's a reminder that even if I spiraled harder than ever, I could still become a good person. It's a reminder that even the worst of humanity are deserving of a chance if they're willing to seek it. And it's a reminder for me to be optimistic. I DO believe the worst person can change. I DO believe that everyone and anyone is capable of being a good person, if they truly try. And sans himself is a reminder too. If a skeleton damned to repeat the same tragic and/or pointless paths can still find any humor or joy...then I can too.

    • @eduespro
      @eduespro 10 месяцев назад +5

      This actually is sad

    • @lukasbeyer2649
      @lukasbeyer2649 3 месяца назад +3

      I think it's more self-condescending than that. instead of his brother, he's the one who kept believing that you could change which is why he didn't step in earlier, and he's regretting his own nativity.

  • @shahproductionsuser2965
    @shahproductionsuser2965 10 месяцев назад +1738

    Fun fact: that final attack at the very end that crashes the game was originally supposed to completely delete the game from your device, but Toby couldn't figure out how to do it

    • @TotallyStatue
      @TotallyStatue 8 месяцев назад +159

      makes sense, a program can't influence the files of an active program. (such as itself)

    • @maxwellmegagamer8535
      @maxwellmegagamer8535 8 месяцев назад +329

      ⁠@@TotallyStatuenot with that attitude

    • @TotallyStatue
      @TotallyStatue 8 месяцев назад

      @@maxwellmegagamer8535 I mean, if we throw out your operating systems structural integrity... then it'll probably be recognized as a virus.... but there is a chance

    • @christianstephan7301
      @christianstephan7301 8 месяцев назад +334

      @@TotallyStatue Well. The game could create an executeable file to do that job in you temp directory, execute it in a new thread and closing the current programm (the game). The game would be effectivly deleted with only an executeable temp file. The problem is that uninstalling or changing software always asks for the permission to do it - so it could not be done without your consent. But the tought of the game closing and seeing the windows security question if you want to deinstall "undertale" would have been effective nontheless.

    • @MathasiaJ
      @MathasiaJ 8 месяцев назад +109

      @@TotallyStatue Doki Doki Literature Club would like to know your location

  • @user-thepunmaster
    @user-thepunmaster 11 месяцев назад +866

    Most animations only give sans the famous blue eye when he also has a yellow eye
    Blue = patience
    Yellow = justice

    • @eduespro
      @eduespro 10 месяцев назад +49

      That's why Papyrus is soooooooo Patient

    • @user-thepunmaster
      @user-thepunmaster 10 месяцев назад +19

      But he doesn’t have a glowing eye
      But his counter part swap has an orange glowing eye same with disbelief so maybe disbelief papyrus glowing eye = bravery?

    • @Wilker_uwu
      @Wilker_uwu 7 месяцев назад +16

      imo the flaming eye is something that's harder for me to grasp the meaning and origin of than the lack of the yellow glow

    • @Gabriel...-eg7nu
      @Gabriel...-eg7nu 7 месяцев назад +3

      I think this is pretty much a aesthetic thing because pretty much every color got a soul(imagine how ugly would be sans brown eye) still, that would be a cool reference.

    • @Ihavenooriginalideas
      @Ihavenooriginalideas 4 месяца назад +3

      My theory is that someone put up a frame of the sans fight that happened to have the blue eye. It could have been the yellow eye that became famous.

  • @caprisunmanreal
    @caprisunmanreal Год назад +1814

    the 'you'd be dead where you stand' quote can also be taken in another way, as without sans's promise to PROTECT over you, the other monsters wouldn't have been so nice in snowdin, or you may not have made it through other areas without him helping, such as when he stalks you in in waterfall during the genocide route (check the unique shyren concert text in genocide), implying that he could have helped us during pacifist and neutral through practically all areas.

    • @most_sour_of_citruses
      @most_sour_of_citruses 11 месяцев назад +250

      A small headcanon I have for one instance of sans helping the player I got from a fan comic which showed sans secretly helping frisk get over the giant bone in the papyrus pacifist fight through the whole blue soul thing, ik nothing is confirmed but I like to believe that was him

    • @caprisunmanreal
      @caprisunmanreal 11 месяцев назад +188

      @@most_sour_of_citruses that sounds completely in character, also with the fact that papyrus may not have enough mastery over the blue soul mode to be able to raise the battle box and lessen the gravity of the soul just enough to avoid his attack.

    • @kingofcrap4414
      @kingofcrap4414 11 месяцев назад +182

      My headcanon is that Sans' prescence might have been the only reason why Flowey didn't try attacking you a lot more times. Whether knowingly or not, he acts as a deterrent to keep the weed away from you.

    • @autumnyuki3744
      @autumnyuki3744 11 месяцев назад +25

      And to think all this time I thought he was being useless

    • @Mephistophelse
      @Mephistophelse 11 месяцев назад +131

      @@kingofcrap4414yeah that checks, it’s canon that flowey is afraid of sans because it was sans’s fault that flowey could never finish a genocide route of his own as hard as he may have tried. Sans did to flowey what he failed to do to the player and that was make him give up and the reason for that is unlike undyne who is all brute strength in an attempt to kill you. Sans isn’t trying to kill you and he isn’t even trying to “win” he just wants to break your will and force you to ragequit which he succeeded in doing to flowey.

  • @kuba4ful
    @kuba4ful Год назад +1785

    15:34 I don't think saying "you're beyond forgiveness" and "he has to play dirty like this" is the right interpretation here. Afterall, tricks only work once, and since he knows we always come back after dying, dirty tricks won't do much. The only way sans can make player give up is by being so hard you just quit, not by pulling dirty tricks like Sparing him.
    The next line is the most important one, "if we're really friends, you won't come back". He does the opposite of making you quit out of frustration, he wants you to quit out of any feelings that may be left inside you. The same way how Papyrus wants you to "quit", albeit in a different way.
    He doesn't know if you won't just lie to him and continue on your murderous spree. But if you're truly sorry, you're gonna quit, and if you're truly His Friend(™), you won't come back.
    I believe saying he just has to "play dirty like this" is a vast oversimplification of a moment that is genuinely heartfelt.

    • @thehayze259
      @thehayze259  Год назад +356

      What I meant by playing dirty is that he simply bypasses a lot of the rules of the game that work in your favor. For example, invincibility frames, which give you a bunch of time after getting hit to get out of there. By the established laws of Undertale, he should have invincibility frames too, but he just sort of... doesn't, which is why I call it "cheating."
      And yeah, it's an oversimplification, but the video is already 35 minutes long, I didn't want it to be an hour. I had to leave some stuff out or we would be here for ages. You're correct, though.

    • @kuba4ful
      @kuba4ful Год назад +128

      @@thehayze259 You've made the point about playing dirty a few times more in the video, when mentioning stuff like attacking in menu, or frame damaging attacks. Whcih is why I felt mentioning it another time in a moment that has more heartfelt undertones, is an oversimplification that kinda hurts the entire video's quality.
      Or maybe it just rubbed me the wrong way, cause I felt it to be one of the more important scenes in the entire fight. If you didn't want to get in details for that scene, then that's fine, but I think it'd be better if you skipped it altogether, rather than list it as yet another instance of sans playing dirty.

    • @IsThatAThaiName
      @IsThatAThaiName 11 месяцев назад +45

      If the KR does stand for karma then it makes sans even more deep. Because, he could of tried to stop you before you killed everyone but maybe he couldn’t. Maybe his attacks are only powerful enough to harm you once you reach level 19

    • @qwerty3793
      @qwerty3793 11 месяцев назад +22

      ​@@kuba4ful It could be both, though. Sans is intentionally disceiving the player by making them think he is sparable, making the player think that sparing him might give a different ending or even just new dialogue and punishing that curiosity with a game over (which is sort of the genocide route in a nutshell - the game is saying you've already seen the best it has to offer and that you should move on now).
      Sans does then take the opportunity to plead with the player on the grounds of their past friendship (after a little deserved taunting), but I think his initial intent is a simple attempt at tricking the player to make sure they keep losing as long as possible and get discouraged enough to quit.

    • @aaronlosey7201
      @aaronlosey7201 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@qwerty3793 I think that’s missing his point. There still his an option to spare him, and he tells you how to do it, begs you to do it.

  • @cetadel6597
    @cetadel6597 Год назад +1024

    Some notes that Hayze didn't touch upon:
    Sans does 1 damage per frame and dodges every hit despite having 1 hp. The player likely has equipped the Real Knife and HeartLocket, each of which are the best armor and weapon in the game in terms of STATS, but no benefits like the BurntPan or TornNotebook. ATK and DEF don't matter anymore, because you can't HIT him and he doesn't do more than the minimum possible damage.
    Sans goes first because in most fights, you engage the opponent. Your turn is always first because either they cede their turn to you or you fight them before they know you're there. Note most enemies having the "[Enemy] stumbled in!" or some variety of that, implying they didn't see you coming until you were there- most don't even know you're a human. Undyne turns you green with her first attack. Sans doesn't cede his turn or waste it. The reason sans goes first is because you don't fight sans. Sans fights you.
    This also might be why Megalovania is used instead of TSTMPWYFS, as you don't fight sans. Megalovania is a portmanteau of Transylvania and Megalomania, which could imply it's your theme attempting to overtake his.
    Red is (almost) the only color in the game that appears on monster models directly. (Flowey doesn't count.) Sans' blood is red, your SOUL is red, ASGORE's trident is red. Each of these characters have a reason to be determined to kill you- (UNDYNE's Determination is inside her- dunno what to think about that.)
    Sans performs a betrayal kill, which is a nice touch since that's how you killed Papyrus, and the act of SPAREing one turn and attacking the next is also how you can pass Toriel quickly in the RUINs on neutral.
    Sans is tied to JUSTICE and PATIENCE via his eye colors, the only non-red colors on enemy monsters in the entire game.

    • @iasked347
      @iasked347 11 месяцев назад +12

      Whats tstmpwyes

    • @thecollector4753
      @thecollector4753 11 месяцев назад +77

      ​@@iasked347 The song that might play when you fight Sans

    • @monky4640
      @monky4640 11 месяцев назад +56

      i think megalovania originates from megalomania and LOVE, since you're craving more power (meaning you're a megalomaniac) and you plan to get it by increasing your LOVE

    • @Tzizenorec
      @Tzizenorec 11 месяцев назад +41

      @@iasked347 "The Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans" is a music track in the game's files that was never used - all we have for context is the name, and listening to the actual music of course.

    • @SiegeTF
      @SiegeTF 11 месяцев назад +8

      Sans also means 'without', and Sans is without Mercy, but not without Determination (thanks, perhaps to his (implied) research).

  • @titan7789
    @titan7789 Год назад +1026

    19:27 Interestingly enough, he seems to also be friends with Alphys, he hints to it ALL throughout the game(even sending dog food and JOKING about it, we know what that means), his, as he says THEIR research (with likely Alphys) is seemingly what led him to become aware that his choices don't matter(along maybe with Gaster but that's an even more theory zone), Alphys even jinxed his joke once lol.

    • @TheRealKiRBEY
      @TheRealKiRBEY Год назад +85

      I thought that was refrencing gaster, though that might just have been me being affected by AU Propaganda

    • @titan7789
      @titan7789 Год назад +68

      @@TheRealKiRBEY It could be...but I like it being and think it's supposed to be Alphys mainly because Alphys said she did research on AUs.

    • @Elaniden
      @Elaniden Год назад +34

      @@titan7789 Alphys is underrated

    • @lorettabes4553
      @lorettabes4553 10 месяцев назад +2

      Yep @@Elaniden I just finished watching Symblily's pacifist run and Papyrus comments on it! And Alphys shrugs it off, but omg how did I never know those two knew each other before Frisk!?

    • @cgomega3987
      @cgomega3987 9 месяцев назад +14

      Entry Number 17 says it all. "What do you two think?" Alphys and Sans and about 95% likely the only two people that the "two" people could be.

  • @devonm042690
    @devonm042690 Год назад +362

    Sans' mercy trick is another thematically appropriate part of the fight in its own right. I don't know about the regular enemies, but the bosses at least, have different death scenes if you play the fights through as if in pacifist until you're able to spare them, and _then_ kill them.

  • @masteryoda4296
    @masteryoda4296 10 месяцев назад +142

    You forgot to mention soulless pacifist being an attempt of fixing your mistake fueled by the regret of your genocide run only to be met by chara and the last photo depicting the death of all your friends and family showing that the damage has already been done and your sins will not be forgiven.

    • @4ndr00med4
      @4ndr00med4 3 месяца назад +4

      Except if you go to the game folder and delete one file

    • @Andromeda-lo6lf
      @Andromeda-lo6lf Месяц назад +4

      ​@@4ndr00med4true but that's just lame

  • @Jblade343
    @Jblade343 11 месяцев назад +537

    What I genuinely love in this fight is that technically all of these rules in the battle are totally legal because of other examples of the game it also references many other characters for example, (oh boy this going to be long)
    papyrus is one of the few fights where the box moves when you move, on the last attack when you jump so high the box itself has to expand just to keep you visible.
    Asriel is the only character that does damage without really any i frames, they are much shorter in his final attack,
    Asgore upgrades his attacks as the fight goes on, which is what Sans does overtime.
    Sans is able to kill you with the spare mechanic because betrayal kills are a hidden game mechanic where if an enemy is spare able, you kill them in one hit.
    Flowey attacks you even when you’re healing or fighting him in the omega fight. Even with the new rules, the original rules still apply somewhat.
    Sans cancel attacks and chain them together because he stuns you slightly with the teleport, if you want to be serious, you do this too later when you kill Flowey as you stun him on the first hit as he’s not entirely dead. Then you keep killing him afterwards as he can’t act.
    The fact that Sans can do all of this and it all feels somewhat familiar makes it go even further.

    • @kattack8200
      @kattack8200 11 месяцев назад +44

      And since attacking normally sends you back into the battle box after you finish, it lets you attack a second time while hovering over it, because you never left the box in the first place

    • @echeffe4168
      @echeffe4168 11 месяцев назад +30

      Undertale constantly break the classic RPG rules, like when Papyrus literally go off the path after sparing him, or when you decrease the fake health bar of Napstablook

    • @ChimeraLotietheBunny
      @ChimeraLotietheBunny 10 месяцев назад +6

      Agreed

  • @viviansventures
    @viviansventures Год назад +383

    2:16 the joke of Sans and Papyrus being parodies of Helvetica has fully eclipsed knowledge of Helvetica or what the joke was referencing

    • @coiledAgent
      @coiledAgent 11 месяцев назад +34

      Doesn't help that Helvetica died 6 years ago. Who's gonna tell the joke if nobody remembers the joke?

    • @Chameleonred5
      @Chameleonred5 11 месяцев назад +18

      Huh. Knew about Helvetica but didn't realize the reference.

    • @SirBladewind
      @SirBladewind 10 месяцев назад +6

      Idk what that even is

    • @TheBroGamer14082
      @TheBroGamer14082 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@SirBladewind me neither

    • @WD35
      @WD35 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@SirBladewindfont I think

  • @thinktanium9789
    @thinktanium9789 11 месяцев назад +181

    20:54 sans frantically frustratingly resorting to throwing around in a desperate attempt to kill you really sells how hes tried everything to stop you

    • @bumbabees
      @bumbabees 10 месяцев назад +33

      thats always been my favorite part of the fight. any other time you interact with him, hes always putting on a front. this nonchalant demeanor. but that moment is the _one_ time he gets angry enough to not care about putting it up. and, it makes me feel like a bit of an asshole to say this lol, but its so interesting. this whole fight is proof he cares way more than he acts like he does and i love it.

  • @Quiinna
    @Quiinna Год назад +618

    Great video! I also believe that one of the reasons the fight is so popular is because of its buildup. In the pacifist route, Sans initially appears as a comic relief character, but he has moments that make you think, 'there's more to this guy.' The more you play the game, the more you begin to notice these things. Even Flowey, in one of the neutral endings, warns you about Sans lol
    And the best part is that the fight makes you wonder about Sans, 'why does he know about resets?' 'How is he able to do all of that?' 'Why is he somewhat different?' There's a lot that you can dive into with this guy

    • @willzhang1936
      @willzhang1936 Год назад +2

      Wait where does flowey warn you about sans?

    • @DoYouWannaGetBigShotInTheChest
      @DoYouWannaGetBigShotInTheChest 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@willzhang1936 "papyrus's brother however... don't mess with him. He's caused me more trouble than my fare share of resets. " im pretty sure flowey said smtn like that

    • @BlockMasterT
      @BlockMasterT 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@willzhang1936I was wondering too

    • @nagatubimaru
      @nagatubimaru 11 месяцев назад +29

      If you do the Photoshop Flowey fight multiple Times.
      He will Talk about the Flowey Fanclub and later on to stay away from sans..

    • @stm7810
      @stm7810 11 месяцев назад +16

      @@nagatubimaru and that sans is the 1 guy who he could never defeat.

  • @MiiRailgunner
    @MiiRailgunner Год назад +1228

    “Is Glitchtale very good? No not really.”
    I have never laughed so hard at 6 am

    • @abitsillyy
      @abitsillyy 10 месяцев назад +23

      Aaaaaand I immediately have lost interest in this video

    • @gggsh7
      @gggsh7 10 месяцев назад +322

      @@abitsillyyyou mad he speaking facts

    • @the_atoms5242
      @the_atoms5242 10 месяцев назад +43

      The shade thrown is incredibly awesome

    • @sammystar829
      @sammystar829 10 месяцев назад +163

      ​@abitsillyy I used to think it was nice, but then I saw videos and rewatched parts over the year. I realized it has lots of flaws. Its fine if you like it though. Everyone has a different opinion on this.

    • @simonbenda3727
      @simonbenda3727 10 месяцев назад +63

      Even though i absolutely love glitchtale i still laughed at that comment

  • @jamescolley7472
    @jamescolley7472 Год назад +446

    23:50 Yes, I fully agree with you. Having the colour of red being the colour of importance in Sans’ fight once it’s over is a really clever symbolism in my opinion. Along with his sprite sweating when he goes all-out on the player on his last attempt to kill us.
    I say this because, making a skeleton bleed, (which would be near impossible without him having weak bones, due to a lack of calcium in the marrow), is a clever metaphor to show us the player, how we’ve lost all humanity within ourselves as people in their world. And how Sans, a literal skeleton is more human then we are. And compared to how we were in the other endings, Eg: The True Pacifist ending.
    Furthermore, I personally see this as a clever homage to remind us of all of the opportunities that we could’ve ended our genocide, Eg: Papyrus, and his “Hug of acceptance” to stop our massacre of the underground.
    To further my points, The game has subtly warned us *multiple times* that we were losing what humanity we had left at those points of the story. More ‘homages’ being quotes like Eg: “Human, No. Whatever you are. I Undyne, WILL Strike you Down.” “Oh, you Ugly *Creature*.”-Mettaton, in the genocide ending. And also, “Y-You have a sick sense of humour.” And, “Stop making that Creepy face!” Those last two quotes coming from Flowey, a soulless; emotionless, Apathetic, miserable creature. Now Shaking in his fear of our lack of humanity. And inhuman behaviour. As I said before, *Flowey.* Of all people. Said those lines of dialogue In our encounter with him, trying to reason with us, not just for his life, but for the future of Every timeline in the future. We have that “encounter” with him, just before we poetically meet Sans in the Final Corridoor. The Final warning, in the final corridor, before everything ends in mutually assured destruction. As a final point to my essay, I personally believe that the section of the game, from when we first enter Asgore’s house in new home, to the point where Sans leaves, and dies is meant to be the final warning to get us, the player to stop with our genocide. This section of the story is meant to be a bone shattering experience for us to suffer through. To try and get us to stop before *We All lose it all.* It’s poetic writing, We get warned about the consequences, unforeseen at the time we’re given them. But through it all. Through *Our* Determination. We go through and “Proceed”. To quote Chara, “It was Not My determination, But *Yours*.” -Chara
    I do apologise if I got off topic when writing this essay for you. And, I Thank you for having the patience to read my essay.

    • @thehayze259
      @thehayze259  Год назад +84

      Oh yeah. The actual fight with Sans is awesome, but man... the moment you enter New Home, besides the fight itself, everything is designed to make you feel awful. The most despicable character in the game is afraid of you, Asgore tries to talk things out instead of killing you, Sans gets off his butt and does something, then he becomes the only character to bleed... it's all supposed to make you feel horrible. I love it.

    • @jamescolley7472
      @jamescolley7472 Год назад +21

      @@thehayze259 I must admit, I wasn’t expecting a response as quickly as you did, Thank you.
      And I 100% Agree with you, It’s poetic writing. The game warns you that your taking the game down a dark path, and presuming that you’re doing the Genocide ending as your last one, you’d likely gather that you’d be given a lot of warnings. However, when you play the genocide ending of the game. All that you’re focused on is the extermination of all of the monsters that the game can throw at you, like a bullet-hell game, (Which Undertale essentially is). Keeping on topic, The warnings are hidden in plain sight for us to spot. However, since we’re so laser-focused on the extinction of monster-kind, we miss the Many warnings that the game lobs at us for us to see.
      And only after finishing the Genocide ending, and relinquishing our eternal retribution of owning a “cursed” save file, do we only then spot the warnings that the game gives us.
      And a final thank you for making such a video. I only thought of writing this comment when you spoke about the importance of the colours in the combat sections of the game. Because of this, I then remembered Charii’s “Everything wrong with undertale video” and his points about sans bleeding, and sweating. Hence why I made such a comment.

    • @HCL957
      @HCL957 Год назад +5

      Bro wrote a whole essay 😭🙏

    • @legendarysands4892
      @legendarysands4892 Год назад +3

      @@HCL957fr😅

    • @epicgamernoisesintensifies6238
      @epicgamernoisesintensifies6238 Год назад +14

      Sans *would* actually have weak bones, too, since he’s said to be the “weakest enemy”

  • @tyquil825
    @tyquil825 Год назад +288

    Honestly when I beat sans I didn’t feel accomplished, I felt empty, just a husk and it didn’t help that I had also done the True pacifist beforehand. But when I beat it again, I felt accomplished.

    • @madcrasy6841
      @madcrasy6841 11 месяцев назад +9

      Youre wierd

    • @greywolf9783
      @greywolf9783 11 месяцев назад +30

      Thats the damn point

    • @lorettabes4553
      @lorettabes4553 10 месяцев назад +49

      The game did warn everyone: The more you kill, the more you distance yourself. The more you distance yourself, the easier it becomes to inflict pain on others.

    • @BLACK80085
      @BLACK80085 8 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@lorettabes4553 its simply the more you do something the easier its gets, and that includes all of it.

    • @4ndr00med4
      @4ndr00med4 3 месяца назад

      The hell you mean you didn't feel accomplished? That's a hard ass fight that requires a lot of practice or initial gaming skill to complete and you did it and were like "okay". Get a load of this guy

  • @old_timey_prospector
    @old_timey_prospector 10 месяцев назад +136

    Just here to reiterate that when Sans asks you to keep pretending to be a human for his brother, it's not because he thinks you're a local.

    • @JustCozItsMe
      @JustCozItsMe 6 месяцев назад +12

      This comment kinda broke me momentarily.

  • @calebhayes7691
    @calebhayes7691 9 месяцев назад +48

    I always understood killing sans as not "aiming a little to the left" but rather that the same button that progresses dialogue is also the same button that selects an option.
    Sans critical failure was a single momentary lapse in noticing that the game mechanics he had been abusing this whole time were still in effect and by talking while your heart was over the fight button, he sealed his own fate.

  • @brycelynch3220
    @brycelynch3220 Год назад +378

    I did kind of wonder what all of the hype was about. I've seen this guy all over the place, thanks for finally explaining it to me.

    • @thehayze259
      @thehayze259  Год назад +147

      Yeah, Sans' fame kind of outweighs Undertale's at this point. Him and his song became the subject of so many memes that it's spread far beyond the scope of Undertale itself.

    • @Genocidefrisk637
      @Genocidefrisk637 Год назад +32

      @@thehayze259papyrus=underrated.

    • @goofuston
      @goofuston Год назад +10

      @@Genocidefrisk637 jerry (and every basic monster except temmy)= underrated

    • @lightningjadejavier
      @lightningjadejavier Год назад +2

      Ahah, this skely boy gon give you a bad time

    • @alternimousdimension
      @alternimousdimension 10 месяцев назад

      Ditto 😊

  • @helioobianchi
    @helioobianchi Год назад +128

    it's very noticeable how much you enjoyed writing and recording this essay, the work it took to gather so many details from the game and making connections between them
    that's what happens when we allow ourselves to appreciate Undertale for the great work of art it is. just playing and moving on becomes impossible
    congrats for the work, it was very enjoyable to watch ❤

  • @Sin-Nombre04
    @Sin-Nombre04 Год назад +232

    What I love about Undertale is that canonically Sans battle isn't even a boss battle, the only battles that counts as boss battles are the ones against Toriel, Asgore, Omega Flowey, Asriel and Undyne the undying, the rest of the battles are just like if they were a normal enemy that is just a little stronger than the rest of enemys

    • @minestar2247
      @minestar2247 10 месяцев назад +9

      Undyne doesn't count as a boss monster, so there is practically no boss battle in that run, but it's still extremely difficult

    • @Sin-Nombre04
      @Sin-Nombre04 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@minestar2247 Undyne in neutral or pacifist run doesn't count as boss battle, in genocide is hard to say, I would say 50/50 because she isn't a boss monster, but she has her own determination that make her probably half as powerfull as having a human soul

    • @minestar2247
      @minestar2247 10 месяцев назад

      @@Sin-Nombre04 Yeah, sorry for misspelling

    • @ivanlol7153
      @ivanlol7153 5 месяцев назад +7

      I think ur getting the cannon term “boss monster” mixed up with the non-cannon term “boss battle”

    • @Kaylen_Jakobsen
      @Kaylen_Jakobsen 5 месяцев назад +1

      Wait, does that mean that the I.noodles heal 4hp in the sans fight? Cus it heals 4hp in normal battles and 90 in boss fights (15hp in the overworld)

  • @gabrote42
    @gabrote42 11 месяцев назад +79

    14:52 Correction, the glasses and notebook boost INV, which makes you take damage at like 45 frames instead of 60, and slows down KR slightly. The apron would still heal you if you could obtain it in geno (forcefields prevent your passage) and the pan still boosts your healing from food
    17:00 He is actually not cheating at all. He's doing exactly what you can do all game. He moves first, like you, he dodges attacks, like you. He gets a damage boost if attacking a sparing foe, like you. He doesn't respect INV, like you don't. He holds his turns liek you do. Heck, you even manage to attack him in his turn just like he did in the second half of the fight. I'd say he's pretty fair.
    18:28 My sib Chara getting ignored XD.
    20:05 Statistically, Papyrus is the point where most quitters abandon the no mercy run. Sans generally pushes them to continue, or abandon the game entirely, and not as much as Paps does.
    26:44 You can hold escape right up to and until you hit enter on him. His dialogue autoscrolls, so you have to push Chara to push the human into killing him. If you don't, you can still reset the run at no consequences to you

    • @Victor-dk7gt
      @Victor-dk7gt 11 месяцев назад +13

      About the cheating, it in a certain way is cheating, because thats the thing, all the things you do like having the first turn, dodging, etc, is a PLAYER ability, so in a real time battle game it would make sense, but in a turn based one like undertale, its actually not supposed to happen, he is changing how the game itself works to make him some sort of "player", wich should not happen at all, so even tough it would make sense that he can do things you can do, it doesn't because of the nature of it being a game, and game mechanics being actually cannon in the story.

    • @ketchuplover6160
      @ketchuplover6160 11 месяцев назад +7

      note that you can't actually get the apron in geno (or the temmie armor) but the part about the pan and purple armors stands

    • @gabrote42
      @gabrote42 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ketchuplover6160 My bad! Correcting...

  • @cetadel6597
    @cetadel6597 Год назад +144

    I think MTTNEO is also very smart. If you notice, he has no death animation, no death sound, no dust noise, no little LOVE jingle.

    • @rafsandomierz5313
      @rafsandomierz5313 Год назад +23

      MTT is a immortal ghost that can't be killed by physical means in a robotic body.

    • @cetadel6597
      @cetadel6597 Год назад

      @@rafsandomierz5313 he's fused to the body. Mad dummy style.

    • @goofuston
      @goofuston Год назад +2

      ​@@rafsandomierz5313yeah but you got lv from it is mtt ghost a theory or actually proved by Toby tho

    • @aboogala4678
      @aboogala4678 Год назад +49

      ​@@rafsandomierz5313I think that's just in the case of a ghost not fused to a body. Mad Dummy was immortal, but after becoming Glad Dummy ("Fully corporeal"), they get oneshot.
      I think it's fair to assume Mettaton is fused with their body, so they are definitely killable.

    • @rafsandomierz5313
      @rafsandomierz5313 Год назад +9

      @@aboogala4678 Oh right I forgot about this.

  • @shawnhardy-lester8496
    @shawnhardy-lester8496 10 месяцев назад +7

    Remember first run make friends have a wholesome time. Second run kill your friends.

  • @ethanhall2655
    @ethanhall2655 Год назад +234

    Something really cool about the AU (or AT) aspects of Undertale is it allows people to explore the same characters in completely impossible situations, based on their own understanding of the characters. And Sans has the most to unpack, so it’s really no wonder so many AU’s center on the skeleton. Projects such as Horrortale, Aftertale, or even all the edgey “sans goes crazy and kills everyone” stories are compelling not just because they remix the characters, but because they tell parts of the story the game cannot-I.e. the purpose of fan fiction as a concept. I could gush for hours on how the Undertale fandom is lighting in a bottle, but frankly, I don’t need to. This video sells well enough the impact the game has had.

    • @goofuston
      @goofuston Год назад +9

      jerry hyperdustouterfellunder main character when

    • @whatever_hi_in_spanish_is
      @whatever_hi_in_spanish_is 11 месяцев назад +11

      horror tale isnt just about sans. Imo its just a really interesting take on what would happen if only asgore died and Undyne took rule

    • @ChimeraLotietheBunny
      @ChimeraLotietheBunny 10 месяцев назад +2

      There’s some like underswap and underfell tell to influence the cast. Just Sans is a really iconic and popular character base on the routes you take (mostly popular in genocide) , Now focus was I like was other AUs that focus in such things. Now I like Undertale Yellow although no much sans screentime maintain that undertale mechanic feel

  • @Sithithur
    @Sithithur 5 месяцев назад +18

    I just realized that he doesn't use his font when he says "Should be burning in hell." and that he also capitalizes the S.

  • @lordjaysie195
    @lordjaysie195 Год назад +152

    "there is no armor to protect"
    cloudy glasses+ Notebook. it makes him deal a bit less damage and have a tiny bit of s.
    then there is also burnt pan which gives a healing buff

    • @wdg2384
      @wdg2384 Год назад +24

      The Stained Apron is unobtainable in Genocide just like the Temmie Armor

    • @lordjaysie195
      @lordjaysie195 Год назад +22

      @@wdg2384i completely forgot about that lol. Thanks for correcting

    • @ralsei3157
      @ralsei3157 10 месяцев назад

      ​@wdg2384 well you could type the item number in the appdata

  • @legalza0843
    @legalza0843 11 месяцев назад +71

    Something important to note is that sans probably assumed asgore was waiting with the 6 human souls to defeat the human once and for all, and that’s exactly what sans is afraid of. Not that he’ll lose, but that he’ll win. With 6 souls he would surely gain control over the timeline, which means any time a reset were to happen it would be at that moment before or after the fight with frisk. All the residents of the underground would remain dead, including his brother.

    • @thedx266
      @thedx266 3 месяца назад +1

      You think because of this, Sans told Asgore not to use the human souls, despite Alphys' wishes?

  • @SansINess53
    @SansINess53 Год назад +88

    the sans fight was the moment of reflection on your actions.

    • @liammq9548
      @liammq9548 Год назад

      That’s undyne

    • @SansINess53
      @SansINess53 Год назад +5

      @@liammq9548 no that's your mom.

    • @koko_sponge
      @koko_sponge Год назад

      Thats undyne

    • @liammq9548
      @liammq9548 Год назад

      @@SansINess53 atleast my moms my biological mom

  • @psymar
    @psymar 11 месяцев назад +40

    I've heard it said that the reason he's so lazy in the other routes is he's conserving his energy for this. Which is horrifying to think about.

  • @ImPrettySureThisIsMax
    @ImPrettySureThisIsMax Год назад +269

    I’m just gonna say it. MEGALOVANIA is my favorite song in the OST. Look, I get it. It’s a generic pick and some may call it overrated, but I honestly don’t care. It just goes so hard. And yes, I have beaten the game on all routes. I have heard every song in the game. I know the Undertale fans who can’t accept that people can have opinions would’ve asked that. Anyways that’s it with my rant on why the MEGALOVANIA hate is unfair

    • @goofuston
      @goofuston Год назад +9

      i like asgore's theme slight remixes are also nice

    • @ImPrettySureThisIsMax
      @ImPrettySureThisIsMax Год назад +18

      @@goofuston yeah ASGORE goes hard too (definitely in my top 10 favorite songs in the game) especially RichaadEBs metal cover

    • @NOTaNaBC
      @NOTaNaBC Год назад +6

      Its good, but overrated. Hopes and dreams and BIG SHOT better

    • @ballisticbiscuit5706
      @ballisticbiscuit5706 Год назад +22

      ​@@NOTaNaBC they're great but neither of them made me feel as much as megalovania did the first time it started playing.

    • @uncroppedsoop
      @uncroppedsoop Год назад +23

      I haven't seen much Megalovania hate, just people fed up with it overshadowing other songs

  • @TheWannaBe
    @TheWannaBe Год назад +85

    "KR" is also commonly known to be the abbreviated version of "Karmatic Retribution" or just "Karma," which is the idea of "what goes around, comes around." Basically, it means that all actions have consequences, which is exactly the purpose of sans' fight. I also think that "Komic Relief" isn't too fitting.

    • @poatatoooo
      @poatatoooo 6 месяцев назад +3

      "Komic relief" has the same energy as little siblings making shit up to win a "fight"

  • @capefry8323
    @capefry8323 10 месяцев назад +9

    When sans is struck down after completing the boss fight when he falls asleep, Its actually heavily implies that Chara (The human you named at the start) is the one who deals the finishing blow.

  • @fluffcake
    @fluffcake 11 месяцев назад +43

    While Sans has gone through mischaracterization hell and back, I like this video, it goes through his moment that made him who he is, of course it’s kinda bad that this kinda caused it to completely overtake the rest of the characters, but you kinda have to understand where he’s coming from in order to justify this. Great analysis!

  • @omniscientomnipresent5500
    @omniscientomnipresent5500 Год назад +60

    KR is karma. An unused line says "karma runs trough your veins". Without that power Sans actually does deal only 1 HP, effectively.making him the weakest monster in the game(statwise). Even monster kid has 2 hp.
    This power really fits him.
    Also, something you doesn't mention is that beyond messing with the mechanics to limit your choices-since you make bad ones, making you stand on a single wall, making you unable to stay on the choice screen with attacks, not letting you spare him and only go back, before ultimately trapping you completely, he actually plays like yourself, mercy kill, dodging, first turn are things you do to other enemies.
    On another note, this was a nice video, it's great to see a take on Sans, his boss fight is so great!! 🤩

    • @ballisticbiscuit5706
      @ballisticbiscuit5706 Год назад +6

      The only thing is him saying you'd be dead where you stand implies he wouldve killed you even before you had a lot of karma

    • @Fritz9672
      @Fritz9672 Год назад

      Here's the thing, if you don't have a high LV, sans karma won't do much really. So funny enough, if you fought sans as lvl 1, he would be wayyyy easier if you fought him at lvl 15 for example

    • @Longboost
      @Longboost 11 месяцев назад +11

      The KARMA lines are actually used -- there are multiple, and the ones displayed depend on how much KARMA you have at the time.
      "You felt your sins crawling on your back" 0-10 KR
      "You felt your sins weighing on your neck." 10-20 KR
      "KARMA coursing through your veins." 20-30 KR
      "Doomed to death of KARMA!" 30-40 KR
      The last of these is particularly difficult to trigger, as KR drains extremely fast at this amount. Additionally, the maximum amount of KR you can have at any one time is 40. Any more, and the game caps your KR to 40. So yeah, KR is KARMA, and not anything more, I guess.

    • @EJKMuffin
      @EJKMuffin 11 месяцев назад +2

      holy stars! MK only has 2 HP? ok well i just want you to know that you have further helped me prove a theory of mine.

    • @omniscientomnipresent5500
      @omniscientomnipresent5500 11 месяцев назад

      @@EJKMuffin actually he doesn't, he has 2 def and atk
      He actually has like 800 hp 😅
      I made a mistake sorry.

  • @69kpurewaffle
    @69kpurewaffle 8 месяцев назад +2

    Dude. What. Honestly, this maybe a bit cliche, BUT you are one of the MOST UNDERATED CREATORS literally ever, I feel like the time and dedication that you put into this video just out numbers any that I have watched this year (in 2024) I actually didnt fall asleep and stop concentrating half way through!

  • @ferdinandpurczeld234
    @ferdinandpurczeld234 10 месяцев назад +7

    Your point is correct. At first, people tried to tell me why Undertale is good, but their reasoning was:
    - You can date a ghost
    - You can spare the monsters
    - Goat mom
    These are asinine reasons to get interested in a game. So, I treated Undertale as just another overhyped game until I saw a clip of 20:53. Now THAT got me intrigued.
    The point is, sometimes you got to reveal major spoilers to get others interested.

  • @Draedon126
    @Draedon126 10 месяцев назад +10

    A skeleton who is incapable of picking up a sock but can unleash powers that rival my magnum opera, fascinating

  • @SanteyKhena
    @SanteyKhena 11 месяцев назад +27

    One thing that makes flowey trzmbling in fear hit even hzrder is the fact he cant feel emotions, a sadistic murderous flower who cant feel any emotions, trembling in fear begging for mercy

  • @Globert
    @Globert 8 месяцев назад +5

    Wow, a 30-minute video about something I already know. Did I watch it? Hell yes I did. No regrets. Absolutely amazing

  • @strelitziamystery21
    @strelitziamystery21 Год назад +128

    Snas Undertale and his fight is so iconic! It's wild to see the comic (comic sans pun insert here) relief be such a powerful character that inpacted so many!
    (Also, Underverse is like the Spiderverse of Undertale it's crazy and also great.)

    • @crock3251
      @crock3251 Год назад +8

      Snas is so cool

    • @nex9058
      @nex9058 Год назад +5

      spiderverse is like the underverse of spidertale

    • @DccToon
      @DccToon Год назад

      SNES??? OMG ITS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER@@crock3251

    • @RF-Ataraxia
      @RF-Ataraxia 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@crock3251so cool

    • @justj7304
      @justj7304 11 месяцев назад +3

      underverse came out b4 spideverse so haha take that spiderman fans !!

  • @SomeplaceScary
    @SomeplaceScary Год назад +50

    The whole reason I played undertale was because I used to read homestuck and I was like "What do you MEAN Megalovania is in this new game I keep seeing people on my dash talking about??" And then I saw Toby made it and immediately downloaded it, lmao.

    • @zavexcapricious2519
      @zavexcapricious2519 9 месяцев назад +1

      Relatable lol Was interesting to learn Toby Fox did stuff for Homestuck before, its def part of the reason the game peaked my interest at the time

    • @Alizudo
      @Alizudo 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@zavexcapricious2519 *piqued. The game "piqued" your interest, is the correct spelling in this context.

  • @graphitecore
    @graphitecore Год назад +26

    nice retrospective video! People sometimes forget what really made undertale so special. Even before people "discovered" the no-mercy route the game was already making the rounds because the story overall is so powerful, but of course the big boom came after people found out sans isn't what he seems to be, or more accurately, he could be doing so much worse. (i remember the reason i began the no mercy route was because the rumour was you got this fight, and people were saying it played megalovania, which as a homestuck fan i had to check out). this is why i love about his character, if you're going to be an asshole and kill everyone then he's gonna be an asshole right back and cheat to stop you, lol. it really is tragic, i hate that you can tell he'd rather be doing anything else. this is a guy who likes friendly jokes and pranks and is generally well liked, and you make him and the rest go through hell. so you get back that karma. like this is really one of the games ever!! if there's idk, a top 100 games of all time, undertale is going to be there, hell maybe even like top 50.

  • @brromo
    @brromo 10 месяцев назад +10

    "No particular reason" is awfully weird way of saying "To make the Theorists go crazy"

  • @kingpost497
    @kingpost497 11 месяцев назад +21

    Just so you know, both sans and papyrus are named after fonts as a reference to the comic Helvetica standard, which has skeleton charachters.

  • @ItzSamurai_ball
    @ItzSamurai_ball 8 месяцев назад +3

    Very underrated channel, keep going

  • @Staticcuzynot
    @Staticcuzynot Год назад +43

    Bro your'e so underrated, you gained a new sub and keep making content, its very good quality!

    • @thehayze259
      @thehayze259  Год назад +4

      Thank you!

    • @eduespro
      @eduespro 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@thehayze259Very Nicely Edited too
      Made me laugh some edits

    • @Alizudo
      @Alizudo 7 месяцев назад

      *you're

    • @Staticcuzynot
      @Staticcuzynot 7 месяцев назад

      @@Alizudo fixed

    • @Alizudo
      @Alizudo 7 месяцев назад

      @@Staticcuzynot Sigh. It's better than it was.

  • @Autiscat
    @Autiscat Год назад +7

    really good for a first video essay! i think you put into words really well the undertale AUs thing, and as someone who used to be really really into that stuff as a kid, hearing someone who doesn't just dismiss it as "cringe" and being actually passionate about the topic is such a breath of fresh air!

    • @thehayze259
      @thehayze259  Год назад +1

      Woah, first? This is like my fourteenth lol, just the first one to actually get big. I do think a lot of Undertale AU stuff is cringe, but a fair bit is genuinely quite good, and even the bad stuff clearly had a lot of passion put into it, which I can appreciate regardless of quality.

  • @dreemurrgaming7766
    @dreemurrgaming7766 Год назад +57

    i love sans' character and how toby's way of making a character like sans interesting, and when i first did the genocide route up to sans' fight i was in SHOCK at how hard he was to beat, and after 375 deaths i FINALLY beat sans! and when i saw how it ended... DAMN i felt that ending of sans' fight and how he was characterized, i LOVE undertale with all my heart and the moments i experienced within it will ALWAYS be why i found it so great and enjoyable, undertale is without a doubt one of the greatest games out there

  • @timlampers8610
    @timlampers8610 9 месяцев назад +3

    14:52 Technically, you CAN use the frying pan to recover more from healing items but the Knife is probably the most thematic.

    • @Alright281
      @Alright281 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah I think being thematic and on point matters

  • @RyanCool035
    @RyanCool035 10 месяцев назад +8

    9:26
    "this is a genuine twist"
    *Locks in*

  • @TheUnofficialNinja
    @TheUnofficialNinja 10 месяцев назад +3

    31:15 -- HEY now! that was TWITTER, voting for Best Tumblr Sexyman!! tumblr did its own voting bracket afterwards and landed on Cecil Gershwin Palmer from the podcast Welcome To Night Vale, who might be the First tumblr sexyman and is still the most beloved.

  • @daisy3525
    @daisy3525 3 месяца назад +5

    My favorite interpretation for this fight is that Sam's isn't actually the final boss that you're fighting against. YOU are the final boss that he's trying to hold back. YOU are the thing threatening the very fabric of existence, after all. The theme that plays isn't TSTMPIYFS, the skng that WOULD normally be his theme, but Megalovania-something much more fitting for you, Frisk, Chara, the megalomaniac going through this world and killing everything in your path. He attacks first, even though it's normally you who does. He can offer to spare you and then stab you in the back, a mechanic that ONLY the player has had up until this point.
    The roles are reversed. YOU are the final boss. Personally, I adore that interpretation of the fight.

  • @vivianthompson4115
    @vivianthompson4115 11 месяцев назад +22

    Personally I always assumed your conversation with the fallen human talking about moving onto the next world didn't have anything to do with undertale. They embody your personal need for progression at any cost and will be with you forever whether you listen to them or not, they wish to move onto the next game, the next story, or into your life itself to continue becoming stronger, and to leave more destruction in your wake, they even comment that they see no reason to continue to continue to recreate the world and destroy it again. Once you let them in they are with you forever and if you want any world to take part in to be meaningful you have to fight against their counsel to destroy it.

    • @4ndr00med4
      @4ndr00med4 3 месяца назад

      What do I do then if I'm so god darn evil for murdering a bunch of virtual monsters? Stop playing videogames or what?

  • @SansINess53
    @SansINess53 Год назад +13

    papyrus's special attack would've been a gaster blaster with teeths at least in theory because papyrus told us that in his home "you would've been *BLASTED*"

  • @dymaz_azure
    @dymaz_azure 9 месяцев назад +1

    The moment where you see sans, your reaction is:
    Im FUCKED UP ARENT I??

  • @Rusvul
    @Rusvul 4 месяца назад +3

    Toby was also quite clever with having the game "remember" that you did the genocide route. The base game files record it, but also (at least on Steam) a random, innocuously named file is placed in the user data separately from where the base game files are kept. So you can delete the game and reinstall it, but this side file will still be there. The file is looked for by the game executable and if found it "knows" you did the genocide route. Steam's cloud syncing also makes it pretty difficult for someone to remove this "tattletale" file as Steam will usually just put the file right back.

  • @Officially_Groowy
    @Officially_Groowy 3 месяца назад +1

    personally my favorite line that sans says is after your death (upon sparing) " if we're really friends , you wont come back "

  • @VerseAftrVerse
    @VerseAftrVerse 11 месяцев назад +3

    Undertale had such an impact that we're still talking about it 9 years later.
    This itself was enough to make me cry, I'm so happy my favorite game is still prominent.

  • @pipmeyer3889
    @pipmeyer3889 8 месяцев назад +2

    ... omg I just got it. Sans is a comedian... a COMIC. He's COMIC Sans! Oh good heavens...

  • @philardo
    @philardo 11 месяцев назад +17

    When I was young, Sans' fight was the coolest thing ever, to me and I'm not surprised, it overshadowed the rest of the game for a lot of people.
    Sans is revealed as a secret badass and without going off character, does such a huge turn, from what you've known from him. But at the same time, this power has always been implied and if you've been playing the other routes before, you finally get the satisfaction of seeing his true strength.
    You really feel the consequences of what you've done, in the hardest battle of the game and one of the only ones, where the game doesn't hold your hands. In the Asriel boss, I felt like the game wanted me to win. Same for Asgore and Omega Flowey, but when you fight Sans, you're supposed to lose.
    Sans breaks the fourth wall, knows fully well what's at stake and Chara takes control to kill him, for the first time (or at least thats the implication)
    Him being the only monster to bleed also adds so much mystery to him and strengthens, how duster his death actually is. (Also the theory that his blood is ketchup is really bad tbh)
    Flowey's horror before and Asgore's death after, also really heighten the impact and it's overall just a stunning scene
    And yknow, teenagers like edge, so obviously the fandom ate this up xd
    At least I speak for myself when I say that and it's probably the same reason why I can't see myself doing this route anymore. The fights are cool, but it'd break my heart to hurt these characters
    Its still insane to me, how a game whose main focus is the Dreemurr family, has a fanbase so much more focused on this one guy. Not that he doesn't deserve it of course, but I find that kinda fascinating, since I don't commonly see something like that, with other properties
    Not sure, this comment really adds anything to the video, since you essentially said most of the same things, but I wanted to let the thoughts out
    Great stuff!

    • @NickMario1
      @NickMario1 11 месяцев назад +1

      Ikr it’s still one of my favorite battles tho

    • @ChimeraLotietheBunny
      @ChimeraLotietheBunny 10 месяцев назад +2

      Fave iconic part of the series

    • @erickmendoza3669
      @erickmendoza3669 3 месяца назад

      Sans doesnt deserved the popularity he has. Thats just my opinion though.

  • @PhirePhlame
    @PhirePhlame 8 месяцев назад +1

    I've never heard "karmic relief", but I have heard "karmic retribution" pretty much universally.

  • @AzureRadio
    @AzureRadio 10 месяцев назад +4

    I've never had a game before that made me bawl my eyes out and never had one that MADE me physically put it down and REFUSE to beat it.
    I have never completed a Genocide route and I NEVER will.
    I saved those characters, helped them, fell in love with them, grew to knew them.
    It's WRONG to reset and kill them all, plain and simple.
    It still makes me tear up that a game had such a profound impact on me lol.

  • @3ftninja132
    @3ftninja132 11 месяцев назад +2

    Undertale.
    A story of men and Monsters.
    Whether it is love and friendship.
    Or bloodshed and horror.
    *Despite everything, it's still you.

  • @CuteCuteJames
    @CuteCuteJames 11 месяцев назад +6

    Excellent video. Your structure and presentation (including editing) are top-notch, bro. And, as with anytime anyone makes an Undertale video, I learned something new. And cried.

  • @Saraa015
    @Saraa015 9 месяцев назад +2

    I actually wanna talk about WTF DUDE U ARE SO UNDERRATED this vid was really enjoyable and i loved it. thank you for making it and good luck in the future!!

  • @Drekromancer
    @Drekromancer 11 месяцев назад +9

    This is my first time seeing one of your videos, but it won't be the last. You did an excellent job with this essay. I know it took you a long time to reach the point where you were ready to write this video, so I want you to know: _it was worth the wait._
    Keep up the good work.

  • @tatltails3923
    @tatltails3923 Месяц назад +1

    Fun fact: Sans doesn't actually consciously experience the time loops. He's just so observant that he notices all the discrepancies in the player's mannerisms and the world's happenings. He studies timelines, but he doesn't live every one of them.
    Also, the very very last chance to turn the game off before it irreversibly corrupts is when Flowy begs "Please don't kill me." Because the very last choice you get in the game is to not continue that dialogue box and just turn off the game there. Once you press A (or its equivalent) and prompt the animation of slaughtering him, there is no turning back. Your last chance to show mercy is a choice you have to make as a player and ONLY as a player.

  • @gengargamer5657
    @gengargamer5657 11 месяцев назад +26

    One thing that not enough people talk about is that Sans being from Deltraune explains the line "Look, I gave up trying to go back a long time ago. And getting to the surface doesn't really appeal anymore either."

  • @ButterNuss.
    @ButterNuss. 9 месяцев назад +1

    A very interesting thing to note is that Sans is the first person in the game that ACTUALLY tries to kill you. He really is the weakest Enemy. But he's the first one to get serious and not pull any punches. That's also why he goes first. He initiated the fight. He attacks you first, and with all he has. Even Undyne let you attack first, leading to the following fight being really nothing more than her death throws, not a real fight. Metaton also just had a small shimmer of hope left, and thus let you hit him first, to his demise. Sans is the first real Deathmatch of Genocide mode.

  • @SquidellaButCool
    @SquidellaButCool 11 месяцев назад +7

    This was such a well put together and amazing video! I’m sorry Sans has you locked in his basement though, hope that gets resolved.

  • @SansBeLazy
    @SansBeLazy 9 месяцев назад +3

    15:55 "the character so lazy that he wrote messages for why he shouldn't pick up a sock."
    it's too much work though.

  • @axiarubin8750
    @axiarubin8750 11 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks to whatever gods there are for putting this video in my recommended. What a wonderful essay. I genuinely enjoyed watching it for all 35 minutes.
    Thank you for your hard work.

  • @AutumnTheRopeLover
    @AutumnTheRopeLover 11 месяцев назад +1

    Correction: 13:18 It's 1 damage every 2 frames actually

  • @goddessbraxia
    @goddessbraxia 11 месяцев назад +7

    With how Chara at the end decribes themselves as giving hints, experiencing it all through the player's eyes along the way when they've done it before. I see Chara as a reflection of previous players showing the game to their friend. as we can all agree there is a joy and catharsis of seeing someone new, play a game you yourself have completed. you can never have the experience again of playing said game for the first time. but you can get a taste of that through someone who is. Thats why reaction videos and first time lets plays can provide so much enjoyment. When Chara says lets destroy it, and do it all again, they mean either having someone else come on the journey through undertale as you have, or do the same with another game. milk everything you can out of it, and on to the next.

  • @BuckBlaziken
    @BuckBlaziken 11 месяцев назад +1

    Sans and Papyrus names are actually based on a webcomic called Helvetica, which the main character is a skeleton named Helvetica (a font)

  • @uno_revers
    @uno_revers 3 месяца назад +4

    28:52 the original is by djsmell, that version is just an animation

  • @jabberwockythemonkey
    @jabberwockythemonkey 10 месяцев назад +2

    This makes me want to play again to see all the stuff in the game I missed the first time through. Unfortunately, the game asked me not to play again so everyone could live happily ever after without resetting, so I can’t. Because a true pacifist run includes sparing them that one last time.

  • @uberanimation6360
    @uberanimation6360 Год назад +8

    Back then when Chara would say "It's time to move on to the next world", I interpreted that as "the surface". Because Asriel would tell you in Pacifist (if you went to your starting point after breaking the barrier) Chara hated humanity. Chara ends you not only because they don't need you anymore, but because "this was something personal".
    Chara is the player now.... (But I'm guessing the whole "being dead" didn't last as long as you sold your soul)

  • @Draedaja
    @Draedaja 10 месяцев назад +1

    As someone who never went for a genocide route, it's interesting to know the dialogues I... "missed".

  • @madmelon9993
    @madmelon9993 11 месяцев назад +7

    1 million views in a month, calling it now. Great job making this, very inspiring to make cooler boss fights

    • @thehayze259
      @thehayze259  11 месяцев назад +2

      Nah, it's a month old with about 100k. It's not getting to 1 mil in a month. Thank you for believing in me though :)

  • @MrFuzzy54568
    @MrFuzzy54568 10 месяцев назад +2

    Another thing. He’s fighting you, not cuz “Grr you killed my brother revenge” but because he’s terrified. I think what he thinks is that genocide will be the last run. (Cara erases the timeline, originally, it was supposed to be deleted). This is the one time sans has to change the stakes, or else he’s gone, forever. Of course, the cruel irony is that now, genocide routes are common because of him.

  • @cycloneabsol9405
    @cycloneabsol9405 11 месяцев назад +9

    Minor correction about Stronger than You:
    Alfa995, the person who made the original Sans animation, didn't make the song itself. According to the description of that video, "someone made an 8 bit cover of a song from Steven Universe, another person made lyrics for an Undertale version of the same song and a comic based off it, then someone else sung it, and now I animated it."
    I'm not sure if the Frisk and Chara variations were originally animated by someone else, but that's what happened with the Sans version.
    Awesome video anyway!

  • @Cyberweasel89
    @Cyberweasel89 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thing is, Sans isn't actually manipulating invincibility frames. One of the things that makes this fight a brilliant manipulation of game mechanics is that in Undertale, 1 ATK damage ignores invincibility frames. It needs to be 2 ATK or above to activate invicibility frames.

  • @straberymelo
    @straberymelo Год назад +13

    i absolutely adore this video ive never played no mercy but sans is so cool

  • @book_Emmy
    @book_Emmy 4 месяца назад +2

    15:13 what I love about the "Sans is sparing you" moment the most? Sans isn't even trying to trick you into thinking he'll let you go. No, you're way beyond that and you both know it.
    What he says is "let's forget all this, ok? just lay down your weapon, and... well, *my job will be a lot easier* ."
    He's giving you one last chance to at least partially redeem yourself. Oh no, it's not redemption in the sense of moving on, changing your ways and becoming a better person. There's no saving you, no such path to offer you.
    But you can let him kill you easily, right here, right now. And you can, "if you're really my friend", never come back. The choice is yours.

  • @madcrasy6841
    @madcrasy6841 11 месяцев назад +5

    I think the reward for doing the Genozid run is the Challenge. I beat the Game today now also in this way and the fight with sans was very fun, even if I had to try a lot. Every time thought my determation I pass peace for peace to his last special attack. Memorizing all his Attak patterns and see him accept his fate fills you with joy.
    The world/Game become unable to play anymore becomes irrelevant due you finished the game anyways.

  • @Revonous1911
    @Revonous1911 10 месяцев назад +1

    If you take no damage, 13 turns is all it takes to beat this fight, but even I took an extra turn or two to heal, seeing people no hit run this is bonkers

  • @koishikomeiji6969
    @koishikomeiji6969 11 месяцев назад +3

    33:18 I think this really got the point of how Undertale got such a vibrant fan scene. It's similar to Touhou, which Toby really liked and also got a has a total of at least 113,000 song arrangements. In the end an environment encouraging fan work can do wonders to organic fandoms

  • @thomasveal7697
    @thomasveal7697 10 месяцев назад +2

    23:21: its not blood, its ketchup, he got hungry during the fight and ate sone ketchup

  • @zarkonicX2
    @zarkonicX2 10 месяцев назад +5

    10:17 "he's going to fucking annihilate you" got me dying for a second

  • @LocalKara
    @LocalKara 3 месяца назад +1

    the thing with the 'spare' section of sans fight is that, When it says dont come back, it really feels like its implying that the reason he killed you was so that you could 'reset' the game and start over a new, better route.

  • @sanyo_neezy
    @sanyo_neezy 10 месяцев назад +9

    I kinda wanna cry now 😅Undertale just won't ever leave me, because I cannot find closure about what I've done to this world

    • @ytuser4562
      @ytuser4562 10 месяцев назад +1

      I feel that. The story of sans makes me really depressed.

    • @Nechrome9
      @Nechrome9 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@ytuser4562Don't be depressed, he's happy in the pacifist ending

  • @DarkFrontierLmao
    @DarkFrontierLmao 2 месяца назад +1

    A scene i won't stop remembering when the genocide route is mentioned are the 2 endings of the pacifist route AFTER doing a full genocide and destroying the timeline. If you pick the option where "you have other places to go", the photo that, originally, was you with your new monster friends, will now show Chara on it, with everyone's face except of themselves crossed out. If you pick to go with the monsters, your character will wake up in the middle of the night, with red eyes and a smile, Chara seemingly to take over your body.
    You can't escape the consequences by being nice right after. You're a monster. And you will always be.

  • @Me_Sansamania
    @Me_Sansamania 11 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks for the video analysis! It was very good. Keep going!

  • @user-ib4356
    @user-ib4356 10 месяцев назад +1

    hayze: compliments nearly all undertale fan projects
    also hayze: "it got so popular to the point where someone made a whole TV show about it, is it good? *no*

  • @SonakaG
    @SonakaG 10 месяцев назад +4

    Also, just want to add in there, but all those times you meet sans before the big reveal/encounter, him teleporting around and stuff works to hint at it but not give it away as he's early on established as a gag character much like his brother, just different, One that breaks the 4th wall instead.
    So the teleports and stuff work out well to the point that it's genuinely a reveal when you first see him there to judge you, and he decides to fight you and that reveals that his abilities are more than just a joke ability.

  • @Spacebums
    @Spacebums 11 месяцев назад +1

    A reminder that Toby Fox has asked fans to call it the No Mercy route, as he feels calling it the Genocide route downplays the severity of the word, even if it's accurate to what occurs in the game.