Openmediavault vs CasaOS : Which one is best for you?
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I use CasaOS on my Pi5 as a docker management and dashboard. The storage stuff and other heavy lifting is done by my Synology NAS'es. 💪
Great tip!
I gave OMV a try but use containers extensively. The way OMV decided to remove Portainer and insist on their own complex UI, was a real put off. That’s the kind of approach I see from pfsense and Freenas, where community preferences are ignored and things are decided regardless.
I’m a OMV user for at least a decade and trust me: the compose interface is not complicated. Actually is quite simple to create a new container from a docker composer file after the initial setup has been made. There’s an excellent tutorial in omv-extras wiki. Just follow it and you’re ready to enjoy everything in one interface only. It’s not resource hungry and everything works great and stable.
I was insisted on portainer for a long time. When finally gave up and decided to face the learning curve, my only regret was not doing this early.
CasaOS for me it’s way too basic. However I really enjoy the interface, where omv lacks the most of.
You can still very easily add Docker and Portainer into OMV using an SSH terminal window.
I agree that it was a silly move for OMV developers to remove the WebUI installation.
Don’t even compare it to truenas or pfsense. Their main target is enterprise, they couldn’t care less about community for the most part. Just be thankful they’re free.. for now !
The thing is community preferences are only that, if the Devs aren't getting more support other than 'hearing' preferences then they will follow the route they'd like it to go. It was easier than the many customisations that were unfunded and by the minimal Devs putting up their hand unfounded too.
I'm been using OMV for my server needs for years but I avoid using docker because of the complexity.I install directly on Debian. I just tried casaos and love the simplicity of the app installs. I see in the comments that installing casaos on top of OMV works. Thats my next project.
Any info on how this went? Cheers
I personally use casaos in openmedia vault! Nice combo hehehe
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Unless I'm missing something, sharing folders with casaos makes them public without restrictions. No control over this currently. I don't recommend using this feature. It's a nice front-end for docker containers though.
Casa OS also opens all the files to the containers as well. Overall it's 100% a no recommend for me
This is only a problem if you expose it to the internet. Thats why they have wireguard as one of their main docker images.
Hi Josh, in each container, you set what files the container can access. You do that in the compose file.
I like to point out that OMV has PhotoPrism as a plugin so there is no need to install docker to have it up and running.
Don't see how this is a fair comparison, OMV is a NAS that is what its built to do, CasaOS is built for people who want a easy front end for Docker to run containers with a one click install, yes it can share files but its not its primary goal in life. you'd be better off comparing CasaOS to TrueNAS as TrueNAS comes with an appstore built in to run containers.
Wetty try to connect to ssh server in port 2222. Your ssh server is listening to port 22 (standard ssh port). I think that this was the reason for your connection failure...
Great quality video as usual. As others have said in the comments the 'openness' of the CasaOS and the file system keeps me away from it right now. You touched on it a little around the 10:50 mark. I need the ability to lock down files based on particular users/groups, so OMV is still the recommendation from my perspective - but we all have different needs.
I hadn't heard of CasaOS before this, so thank you for putting this out there! It's great to see comparisons and options presented.
OMV is better for NAS as CasaOS for Docker, they have difrente scopes....
They just have different audiences.
I use both on the same server. OMV for file systems, users and shared folder and CasaOS for my containers.
How do you go about hosting both on the same server?
Install OMV and set it to use port 8080, then install CasaOS
Stupid question: which one are possibly using as a nas?
OMV is the NAS. CasaOS is for the containers.
@@Andy_Panda I really need to get familiar with containers. Do you have a good video i can watch to get familiar with containers?
Why choose, when you can use both? I have CasaOS installed on top of OMV. OMV is built on top of Debian so CasaOS installs without issue. All I did was switch OMV to port 8080 first to avoid conflicts and create shares in OMV for the CasaOS/Docker images if required. The two of them together is honestly the best solution for all my home server needs.
Or proxmox and have tons of other stuff too on same machine.
But casaos don't work with lvm o raid ... ZimaOS i hope so.
I have a video coming up about installing CasaOS on raid with out OMV. I did it because I wanted a cleaner install..
What exactly do mean you installed casaOS on top on OMV?
Can proxmox host omv and casaOS?
CasaOS is fine if your fine without any kind drive resiliency and fine only able to use the file transfer via a browser.
It still lacks what a basic NAS can do, for starters there is no SMB (Windows File Sharing) support, sure you can install it via terminal but OMV cam set that up with a few clicks.
OMV (OpenMediaVault) was created by Volker Theile while TruNAS was created by Olivier Cochard-Labbé! They were not created by the same person at all!
I now have installed casaos on top of OMV on rpi4, rpi3 and a dell laptop. I can tell you that everything works great only concern is to install and setup OMV complete first. Then change :80 to something else temporally install Casaos change its port. Then OMV can be changed back to :80. I have Plex and Web-Calibre running now.
My computer running on Windows 11 24H2.
Immediarly after installing 24H2 I had problems to access my WD NAS.
Short after that warnings for these problems passing on internet .....
Now I'm thinking about building my own NAS, I found your very interesting video.
For me now the question is; "Can I access CasaOS from my Windows 11 24H2 computers wihout problems ??"
Why cant you access it anymore?
@@brelor31 It's a known issue with Windows 11 24H2
Hi Techno dad, I would appreciate your advice. I am looking for a best OS for dockers and virtual machines. I like CasaOS. But can it also manage the virtual machines? Or could Debian hosting CasaOS carry also something else for the virtual machines paralely?? I like your videos. Lots of interesting topics. Thanks👍
Just install alongside it cockpit dashboard for vm managment.
I would like you to make a video om how to install some kind of linux on a USB stick to be able to start the machine with no mount in kind of service mood. Where I can do actions like repair a disc.
I have been using OMV from number 4 i think when you did a video on how to install. Over time I have missed follow up videos with all our questions. Or maybe a new Live again. Would be much appreciated,. Thanks for all your videos
I like the simplicity in CASAOS is great, but I need file sharing services, backups for desktops, and other things. I wish portainer was a little more user friendly, there seems to be so much setup in installing apps on OMV
i am pretty sure you can do all those things with CasaOS with the right software.
Run nextcloud as a container in casaos
Yeah but... someone who is seeking to build a home server might be put off using OMV after watching. Yes there is a learning curve but OMV is a solid low cost open source solution that shouldn't be overlooked. In my case the updated Compose feature has completely eliminated any need for another 3rd party manager like Portainer, meaning one less thing to go wrong. To me CasaOS is not a real replacement for OMV and is actually more like Portainer or Yacht.
Different OS's for different people. Nether is the best, they serve different people.
Why not both? Would it be possible to ad Casa to OMV?
Yes, but why?
I have raspberry with 512 MB memory, RAM what is more ok?
No, you need at least 4gb.
Good video as usual. 👍
One if the things that so far put me away form casaos is that all its containers are instalked in the same os drive. Only after deplying i can edit and change yhe storage logation of the containers.
I would need either the possibility to set path before deploying or have the possibility to add a default location.
So far could not find the way
Yes, you can change the path, but you have to start the container once first.
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Hi and thanks for the answer.
So, it is that first I have to start it and than edit. Right?
Not possible to somehow have a different default oath or choose a different path while creating the container, correct?
Having only watched videos from 5-6 years ago and now stumbling upon this, I think the channels soon will need to be renamed to Techno Granddad Life
My daughter is not quite that old yet.
Still very much in beta but how about ZimaOS? CasaOS evolved and will support raid.
No raid yet, but raid is easy to add.
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Just wondering, I tried for 3 days on 3 different computer to install OMV6 onto another USB stick and only had it 1 time booting but not into the web UI. Is that still a thing or is it just not possible anymore to install OMV6 onto a USB stick to run? Also, is there an easy way to install CasaOS parallel with OMV?
I think you can still install OMV on a stick. I am thinking of doing a video of that for CasaOS. You can install CasaOS on top of OMV, but that seems redundant.
@@TechnoDadLife Would be a good video, because something is terrible wrong with OMV 6 to USB installation and CasaOS with OMV6 would still be interesting for the lazy try outs of sockets. I usual use portainer but I would also try CasaOS quick installs and if they work as intended I would keep them running.
Can I ask a question? I have an OMV installation on a big Raid volume 17TB and don't know how safe is it to upgrade the OMV version because they always mention to "have a backup" and I cannot backup 17TB just in case.. What is your experience with this?
depends. if the raid is set up in SW (some omv plugin, or other debian package) you MIGHT run into issues. if it is HW raid, or ZFS you SHOULD be fine. as allways depends on the config, but in general an os upgrade should not affect storage, if the new OS can also read however you set that storage up.
Did an upgrade from OMV 6 to 7 using the upgrade script a week ago and zero issues!
I just went from 6 to 7 and have a SW raid, I just had to download the omvextra plugin for it and it picked the raid back up
Thank you 👌👌👌
I haven't had very good experiences with casaos. Was it like 4 plug-ins that just didn't even work, even after trying to update things etc. That's quite bad imo.
I haven’t had that problem but I find many docker images in the official App-store be outdated and not well maintained.
Lucky that you can install third part app-stores and find a community that add apps and maintain them more to your liking.
@@MrPirreE I'm beginning to lean more into Proxmox and dedicated VM for dockers. But I still have CasaOS as it's fast to quickly try some things.
Yes, they recently changed the underpinnings of docker compose. Its fixed now. Just so you know this is not just a CasaOS problem. Many times over the years Openmediavault has broken my machine with updates.
@@TechnoDadLife Thanks for info. Might browse it again bit then.
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and when omv decides to drop the ethernet, there is no more access to the data! and that''s where i stand right now ...
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