For a second, I thought you had torn apart this old film camera. Glad to see you left it completely intact. I have a hunch that the camera has some collector value. My parents had an old 8mm camera (Bell & Howell). I have no idea what became of it. I'm fearful that Mom just threw it out. Because who knows that obsolete junk we accumulate today will be valuable collectibles tomorrow?
Ёу! Этот цифровой блок вставляется вместо штатной кассеты и фиксирует изображение на флешку? Офигеть! Вот-бы моим "Кварцу" и "Красногорску" дать подобную вторую жизнь.
It's funny how people think getting a $4000 camera will get them $4000 shots when all these captures are like Burberry or Dior commercials, it's all about lighting and scenery, water will always look good on any camera even sound, water will always sound good in any quality
1. Why not use a senzor of the size the film has? (8 mm film frame is not too big to start with.) 2. Your senzor seems not to be exactly there were the film sits, at least everything is defocalised. Besides that, a great construction. Do one for 16 mm!
Although the sensor size is larger than that of film, sensor resolution must be reduced due to processing speed issues. Improving the software may solve this problem.
@@airpocketsoundmantbh I'd look into fpv drone cameras you can even buy them with a ccd sensor. You can use an fpv DVR for recording purposes. No need for a computer.
The shutter is in and about 15-24 fps depending on how it was set. The video module is anywhere from 29.87 to 120 fps depending on how it is set so they will optically "beat" against one another unless synchronized.
The camera shutter is mechanically controlled, so it cannot be electronically synchronized. Although the shutter movement is detected using a photoreflector to capture images, achieving complete synchronization is quite challenging.
For good IR shots in nature you need sunny weather around noon time. If tit tsje a 720nm filter yiu can make colored IR Shots. If yiu yiu use an 800nm f, a putch bkack black glass you get an black abd white image with bright plants and dark sky. The Wiuld Effect.
Interesting project, unfortunately with disappointing results! I think you have to allow the camera to control exposure, shutter speed and white balance etc The focus you'll need to workout through the built in lens system? Wouldn't it be easier to film on your phone and aoply a vintage retro film filter?
When you say “camera” do you mean the image sensor? If so, it is easy to control automatic exposure and white balance on the image sensor side. However, 8mm film cameras of 70 years ago do not have such functions, so the only way is to disable them. The goal of this project is not to get movies that look like they were shot with a 70-year-old film camera; the goal is to emulate the experience of shooting with a 70-year-old film camera.
This camera would cost around $5000 when considering development expenses. I recommend making it yourself as we have shared the instructions on this website. hackaday.io/project/184748-a-spring-drive-digital-movie-camera
Your skill is really remarkable and admirable , but let me say that the result is very far from what you can obtain with a real film or even with a good digital editing to simulate the film look. BTW thank you for sharing.
Your assessment of image quality reproduction is very accurate. For the purpose of emulating old 8mm film, digital processing is superior. However, this unit is not intended to emulate film, but to emulate the experience of shooting with an 8mm film camera. Those with an interest in cameras and mechanics will be surprised to find that a 1950s 8mm film camera actually works and captures images. As you load the film cassette, wind the spring, adjust focus and exposure, and look through the viewfinder, you may feel how cinematographers felt 70 years ago.
I would like you to be the one to use this camera. The greatest value of this project lies not in the recorded video data. It is the weight and feel of the spring-wound film camera from 70 years ago, and the experience of taking photos that truly make this camera enchanting. And if you are someone who loves cameras, I believe you will appreciate the charm of this camera.
Looks worse than what that camera would do with actual 8mm film. Your effects are too much. Too much flicker, light leak, image shifting. It’s all too much. It emulates a camera in desperate need of repair. I’d recommend either going to the Film Photography Project and buying actual 8mm film for the camera (I think they have super 8 too but I’m not certain. yes, they develop it for you too) or using the 8mm camera app on a smartphone. I know you put a lot of work into this, and I don’t mean to be discouraging, but the results just don’t look very good. The effects are too strong.
I love how the digitisation mod doesn't permanently change the camera and can be simply dropped in. Great work !!
What an amazing project!! Thanks for sharing the process of how you made it. I hope I can do something similar someday
amazing work giving these old cameras life again
For a second, I thought you had torn apart this old film camera. Glad to see you left it completely intact. I have a hunch that the camera has some collector value. My parents had an old 8mm camera (Bell & Howell). I have no idea what became of it. I'm fearful that Mom just threw it out. Because who knows that obsolete junk we accumulate today will be valuable collectibles tomorrow?
Bravo! You gave another life to the beautiful object.
Beautiful camera. Ace project. Thanks
Wow, that is a great project! Thanks for sharing.
This is beautiful! Thank you for sharing.
すごいです! 尊敬しています。 すぐのプロジェクトを待ち遠しいです。
Ёу! Этот цифровой блок вставляется вместо штатной кассеты и фиксирует изображение на флешку? Офигеть! Вот-бы моим "Кварцу" и "Красногорску" дать подобную вторую жизнь.
なにこれー!すごいです!
If you were to make the digital film cartridge a commercial product I would definitely buy one. :)
That's amazing.
Why didn't you use remote display on a phone or just have an option for a display
Because 70 years ago there were no displays.
FANTASTIC PROJECT!!! Congratulations!!!! Couldn't you connect to the Raspberry via WiFi to see the footage in real time?
It's a concept of emulating the inconveniences, including those of old cameras, although it can be done if one sets their mind to it.
I would still mod the shutter to be open all the time. But this was also nice.
What a great project!!! 👏👏👏👏
It's funny how people think getting a $4000 camera will get them $4000 shots when all these captures are like Burberry or Dior commercials, it's all about lighting and scenery, water will always look good on any camera even sound, water will always sound good in any quality
now that is amazing!
Should definitely sell these if you are not already.
Great innovative camera probably only rich people could afford those days
Very nice! That would be fun with M42 mount
great project!
U have stls and what camers use double 8 fi I love this 😊
Great! Keep it up! 👍
“Made in USA” an archaic phrase, rarely seen or heard in modern times. Most have forgotten what it means.
Actually I feel that the 16mm Bell and Howell cassette movie camera is more desirable for conversion!
why did you feel the need to share that?
Very awesome!!
very cool. would it be possible to do it for photos instead of video?
I so want to find his 8mm module as a kit or better yet find someone who will build me one. I would love to use this for some music videos.
WOW
This is amazing.
Are you able to do this for 35mm film cameras?
1. Why not use a senzor of the size the film has? (8 mm film frame is not too big to start with.)
2. Your senzor seems not to be exactly there were the film sits, at least everything is defocalised.
Besides that, a great construction. Do one for 16 mm!
Although the sensor size is larger than that of film, sensor resolution must be reduced due to processing speed issues. Improving the software may solve this problem.
@@airpocketsoundmantbh I'd look into fpv drone cameras you can even buy them with a ccd sensor. You can use an fpv DVR for recording purposes. No need for a computer.
this is dope 🔥🔥
can i buy it
i want this for my super 8 camera
What a fun project!
I think the flicker may be due to the electronics not being sync.ed to the shutter; you don't get that with real film.
The shutter is in and about 15-24 fps depending on how it was set. The video module is anywhere from 29.87 to 120 fps depending on how it is set so they will optically "beat" against one another unless synchronized.
The camera shutter is mechanically controlled, so it cannot be electronically synchronized. Although the shutter movement is detected using a photoreflector to capture images, achieving complete synchronization is quite challenging.
Cool
This is incredible! Please how can I purchase one from you?!
I was so excited to watch this video. And then, the music started. I made it to 52 seconds. I’m leaving this comment and bailing.
Yeah the music is awful but I’m still watching
this is amazing! please make it for sale, and i will gladly purchase :)
For good IR shots in nature you need sunny weather around noon time. If tit tsje a 720nm filter yiu can make colored IR Shots. If yiu yiu use an 800nm f, a putch bkack black glass you get an black abd white image with bright plants and dark sky. The Wiuld Effect.
Interesting project, unfortunately with disappointing results!
I think you have to allow the camera to control exposure, shutter speed and white balance etc
The focus you'll need to workout through the built in lens system?
Wouldn't it be easier to film on your phone and aoply a vintage retro film filter?
When you say “camera” do you mean the image sensor? If so, it is easy to control automatic exposure and white balance on the image sensor side. However, 8mm film cameras of 70 years ago do not have such functions, so the only way is to disable them.
The goal of this project is not to get movies that look like they were shot with a 70-year-old film camera; the goal is to emulate the experience of shooting with a 70-year-old film camera.
Please sell me one 🙏
This camera would cost around $5000 when considering development expenses. I recommend making it yourself as we have shared the instructions on this website.
hackaday.io/project/184748-a-spring-drive-digital-movie-camera
Your skill is really remarkable and admirable , but let me say that the result is very far from what you can obtain with a real film or even with a good digital editing to simulate the film look. BTW thank you for sharing.
With a camera like that? That's pretty much what the 8mm movies of my family back in the 70's look like.
Do a better one then and then teach him or don't speak
Your assessment of image quality reproduction is very accurate. For the purpose of emulating old 8mm film, digital processing is superior.
However, this unit is not intended to emulate film, but to emulate the experience of shooting with an 8mm film camera. Those with an interest in cameras and mechanics will be surprised to find that a 1950s 8mm film camera actually works and captures images.
As you load the film cassette, wind the spring, adjust focus and exposure, and look through the viewfinder, you may feel how cinematographers felt 70 years ago.
Yo can just get a C mount lens holders for those tiny sensors. I dont get why people keep insisting putting these raspberry pis inside cameras.
I would like you to be the one to use this camera. The greatest value of this project lies not in the recorded video data. It is the weight and feel of the spring-wound film camera from 70 years ago, and the experience of taking photos that truly make this camera enchanting. And if you are someone who loves cameras, I believe you will appreciate the charm of this camera.
Looks worse than what that camera would do with actual 8mm film. Your effects are too much. Too much flicker, light leak, image shifting. It’s all too much. It emulates a camera in desperate need of repair. I’d recommend either going to the Film Photography Project and buying actual 8mm film for the camera (I think they have super 8 too but I’m not certain. yes, they develop it for you too) or using the 8mm camera app on a smartphone. I know you put a lot of work into this, and I don’t mean to be discouraging, but the results just don’t look very good. The effects are too strong.
This is more of an emulator for the experience of using old cameras, rather than specifically emulating the visuals of a film camera.