Imagine having Joe Montana being your qb and Steve being the backup. That would be a great problem to have. While I agree that Joe was the goat before Brady came along, people take Young for granted, especially the 49er fans, they were too spoiled by the number of great players they had
Steve Young was a great QB, I just think Joe Montana was better. I'm not even a 49ers fan, I'm a Saints fan. Steve Young was very good, he just couldn't dissect defenses as well as Joe Montana
Montana easily is the better qb, but he suffered a ton of damage over time. It was time for steve young to lead the 49er. In revisionist history, 49ers made the right call. Joe lasted 2 more seasons with the chiefs and 49er had a core to get back to the superbowl. If it wasn't for the dallas dynasty, the niners would have probably at least made the superbowl one more time.
As a niners fan who grew up in the 2010s with smith and eventually kapaernick, it makes me pissed when my dad tells me about Montana and young. Like he grew up with two of the greats, and I got two devastating Super Bowl losses🥲
I was 1 years old in 88' but my dad was a superfan so I've been a niners fan my entire life in the heart of Patriots country, I live 30 mins from Gilette. The history is nuts wish I was old enough to remember this stuff. First game I can remember is the 1992 NFCCG game against the Cowboys
I believe if Steve would have shown he was a better passer or equally better passer as he was a runner, he would have been the starter in 1987 or 88. Steve was very inconsistent as a passer back then, and I believe Bill Walsh used that as the determining factor
I absolutely agree. It was extremely obvious that Steve wasn't on the same level as Montana when it came to throwing the ball in the small number of games he played in 87/88. However, Steve was certainly more athletic and more what they call "twitchy" when it came to improvising with running the ball. If Steve was a little farther along in his development as a passer, he would have been the obvious choice at quarterback from 87/88 onwards. But Joe is Joe, and was a master at passing the ball and being a leader of men. Much like Brady, Montana was never an impressive physical specimen, but it was the things you couldn't see that made him the great player he was.
Steve Young needed to be a backup for the first couple years, he had potential, but needed to put it all together. It kinda worked out in the end, Joe was beaten up when he left.
Love the music intro. To me, it wasn't the quarterbacks fault. Bill Walsh did that on purpose. They knew Joe time was running out as an elite QB. His body was breaking down. Joe won that last ring in '89. Steve Young only needed to wait until Joe would inevitably get hurt again and the team was his. That's how it played out. Tough for Joe being that it happened in the NFC Championship Game but that's football.
Great work putting this video together. I feel so blessed being able to watch these games. I was in high school when Joe was beating my Giants and then I was able to enjoy Steve while in college, but hey at least my G-Men won 2. Thanks LT 🤣
@@ClasherSports Yo dude YOU NEED TO SHOW WHO WON THE KANSAS CITY 🌆 VS SAN FRANCISCO MATCH UP ( MONTANA VS YOUNG SHOOT OUT $) Not leave it as a teaser; ) “ WHAT’S wrong with that picture!”😮😮😮😮😮😮
Montana made me like football as a child. Young made me love it. Their battle always makes me wonder how many legendary quarterbacks we missed out on because they never got a chance in the league. It's crazy how terrible he was with Tampa Bay only to eventually break the QB rating record with accuracy out of this world. It would have been so easy for him to have never gotten the right chance with the right team.
"The hits quarterbacks had taken back in those days were nothing compared to today." The qb hits back then were far more devastating compared to what we see today is more like it.
As a Cowboy fan, I'll never forget the 1992 NFC Championship game where a healthy Joe Montana sat on the bench. Thank you. Steve was good but he's no JoMo! Joe is the GOAT. Excellent video, exactly as I remember it.
49ers crapped on Montana so bad never should have been a controversy Joe would have won two more super with Joe if they would have stayed with the greatest Joe cool tool them letting him call his own plqyes
I remember watching a video clip of Mike Holmgren telling Bill Walsh during the 1988 season that the 49ers would continue to struggle unless he picked either Montana or Young as the starting QB. Walsh choose Montana and they would go on to win 2 more Super Bowls. Young was very patient and a team player. If he wanted to, he could of demanded a trade and start on another team. But he choose to wait until Montana was traded in 1993 and Young became the permanent starter.
@@mikeybarboza3086 Young could of force the 49ers hand by demanding to start games or sit out the season. He was in position to negotiate since he played well. Plus the 49ers already had Montana. Teams did trade players if it benefited the team. Like the Hershel Walker trade and Charles Haley trade.
@@zerimar26 The only thing Young could do was sit out but the Niners could have sued him for breach of contract and teams would have nosedived in interest for him because of 'behavioral problems.' Mikey's right, it was a totally different era. Teams had all the power and owners worked closely together to hold 'problem players' down.
@ 3:00 - "the hits QBs took back then were nothing compared to what we see today." - you wrote that wrong. The hits we see today are nothing compared to the ones back then. It doesn't work the other way around. The hits they took back then were EVERYTHING compared to the hits we see today.
@11:45 Mike Holmgren is an unsung hero in that coach's meeting. He was the one with the balls to stand up and say to Bill, "Bill, you're the problem. Pick one (Quarterback) and be done with it. This is tearing the locker-room apart." It was after that meeting Bill chose to start Joe Montana. It brought an end to an experiment that blew up in Bill's face.
Die 9er fan, this was b4 I became teenager & lived in the Bay Area, those were great times to be a 9er fan, still its rough watching them get to there 2 latest super bowls & watch defeat, but one day they will get there 6th
I would have traded young because you would get a lot for young and you had bono as a backup. I would take that scenario over what they did. Unfortunately craig fumbled and lost the quest for threepeat and then Montana got hurt
In America's game, Harris Barton would say that if Steve Young and the 49ers didn't blow the lead against he Cardinals, Steve said he probably would have finished the season out as a starter. This was the back against the wall type of grit you see. 6-5 and essentially needed to win out to win the division. They went 10-6 and after destorying the VIkings, they played the Bears and just torched them in the extreme cold. For those old enough to watch the 88 season, you knew that the 49ers weren't going to lose.
Not a Niners fan but, any Niners fan who thinks Young is better than Joe should be pushed off the Golden Gate Bridge. Steve is a Hall Fame QB, but Joe Cool had ice water in his veins. You had to knock him out to beat him. Jim Burt and Leonard Marshall. Only bad playoff loss the 1987 Divisional game. Also, Ronnie Lott and Charles Haley didn’t respect Young.
Cowboys dynasty was to great, the reality is that Young was alot better than Montana its just Young had to deal with a beget dynasty. Montana dealt with no dynasty.
i could see why montana would be pissed. at young he had already won 2 super bowls when steve young came to the 49 ers . young actually asked to be traded to the 49ers. as soon as young got to the team he was saying how bad he wanted to play. if i was montana i would of said to young why are you even here. you could start for most other teams in the league im joe montana im already a legend and this is my team now get the hell out of here
Would've been great to beat the Chiefs and Ravens too, but I'm now stuck growing up a Niners fan, watching us do a great impression of the Vikings and being really good, but never winning when it matters. Thanks Joe and Steve for spoiling me, and thanks Colin, Alex, and Jimmy for giving me great hopes.
People debate which one is better. I'd say Joe Montana. Now if you look at their numbers in the regular season, they're mostly even, so for the deciding factor, we need to implement post season success which gives Montana the clear edge
Young was playing much better than Montana during the late season and playoffs of the 87 season.Montana was coming off a serious injury.You could see in the playoff game against the Vikings Young was leading them down the field in relief for Montana that left them down b three touchdowns.
@3:03 "The Hits we've seen quarterbacks take back in those days are nothing compared to what we see today" Uhh.. I'm not sure about that one, I'd say they got beat up waaay more back in the 80's
I suspect just like any other "reigning king"..........it is always the hardest thing to do to pass the torch. NOBODY worth their salt GLADLY hands over those reigns (especially in sports). The kings always want to decide for themselves when to go thru the exit doors. They NEVER want that decision made for them. On any other team with Steve Young on a roster, his entry would have been made much sooner, but when you have a legend like Joe Montana walking the hallways of the locker room, there is NO WAY Joe is going to gladly hand over the keys to the locker room. I suppose Walsh, Seifert, and the entire DeBartolo family handled all of this with as much grace and class as they possibly could without stepping into ego land mines along the way. They did the best they could.
People forget the 49ers we’re every bit as bad as the Bucs were when Montana became the QB. Yea Walsh showed up and they were more competitive, but they still lost. Montana turned them into a Dynasty just as Brady did for New England. The great ones can do that. Young went to Tampa and was so bad that he was labeled a bust. When he was traded to the 49ers he knew he landed in a sweet gig. Yea young was bigger, stronger, and faster than Joe but almost every QB in the league was bigger, faster, and stronger than Joe was. Steve Young had several chances to leave after San Fran traded for him. Joe was winning Superbowls while Steve was holding a clipboard. However, Steve never left lol. He knew, he knew the cake was already in the oven. He didn’t have to create anything, just steer the ship that has already been created, a winning culture that he didn’t have to build, it was already in place. Sorry bruh, The 49ers will always be known as the house Joe, Jerry, and Ronnie Lott built. This is coming from a Saints fan who had to watch my team deal with these two forever. We respected Steve, but Joe….we as the entire League feared this dude. He gave you nightmares.
Montana was better than young because his legacy was in the playoffs. He got better as the pressure built.....but looking at Steve's stats in the regular season he was the most efficient qb of all time when compared to his Era. He only had 8 full seasons with the 49ers that qualify him in league leaders. In 8 years he led the league in tds 4 times....comp pct 5 times....avg yds per pass 5 times....NFL qb rating leader 6 times.....and 2 nfl mvps. No qb in the history of the game lead the league that many times in an 8 year period....he just couldn't keep up those performances in the playoffs where as joe played his best in the playoffs and superbowls.
All I know is both got hurt and somehow the next guy was always ready to go so to me they always got playing time regardless of who was playing. To me it's like having 2 brothers that are both good at the same thing. They both get credit for getting the team to the Superbowl which both should of been standing together after winning the Super Bowl. That's the way I look at it. Both had each other's back.
Unpopular Opinion: I personally think Steve was better than most ( non-49er fans ) think he was. This video along with his career clearly states what I've been saying for years now... Young was better than Montana. Of course we all love Joe, he brought Super Bowls to the Bay, but let's be honest with ourselves. Not only did Young face stiffer competition, had 49er teams with slightly less talent than Joe, but just look at the stats.
Your context is extremely lacking. Montana came to a team that was piss poor and had to build a winner from the ground up. The PreRice teams were loaded om defense, but their offense although good, didnt compare to the post 86 offensive talent. While Steve Young stepped into a loaded 4 time SB winning team in a pre salary cap era. Huge advantage. Competittion?? Young's comp was probably more top heavy(Cowboys, Packers), but Montana' s comp was deeper. Giants, Redskins, Bears hell even the Saints. Young underachieved continuously. He walked in with Rice, Taylor and Watters and couldnt play well vs Dallas until they literally broke the bank to get one measly title. Young had a litany of great players to win after the Cowboys collapsed. Bryant Young, Dana Stubblefield, TO, Garrison Hearst, Rice, Merton Hanks but he couldnt get the job done.
@@aaronjackson9385 Bill Walsh and Edward DeBartolo Jr. had more impact on building that team to be a winner then Montana. Compare Young's last season in Tampa to his first season with 49ers and you will see how much impact Walsh's system had on QB's. Not trying to take anything away from Montana, but you can't over look other factors. When Young lost to Dallas in the playoffs it's true he wasn't that great, but the defense also gave up 30 points and 38 points. Montana never won a playoff game in his career where the defense gave up more then 27 points. I also wouldn't put Saints in there while comparing competition, Saints were good the last 2 years Montana was QB and the first 2 years Young was QB. It's a wash.
@@poizie85g83 of course the Niners were a first class organization with elite coaching. I never disputed that. But the fact of the matter is, Montana came to a poor team.and his greatness was a major factor in their ascent to greatness, while Young came to a ready made championship level squad and comparatively he did a lot less. Ownership is only as great as its players. Name an owner that was praised extensively that didnt field a good team?? Ownership is a results business. I cant turn on film and watch an owner perform like I can a Walter Payton or Barry Sanders and marvel at their greatness despite having some talent starved teams at times.
So Bill Belichek got his dump them a year earlier from Bill Walsh??? Bill Walsh the GOAT coach and Joe is the GOAT QB. Brady would've been aten alive in the 80s an 90s
Damn even ta dis day SB 28 would b Tha #1 highest-rated ever if Niners beat Dallas n KC beat Buffalo. The league couldn't even rigg it up cuz dey both got blown out n Championship game
Joe for me is the goat brady is great but he has something on his record that joe dont..... loses. Goats dont lose that's what makes them a goat NO LOSES OR PARTICIPATION TROPHYS lik bron has for the NBA to many hav that 0 in lose column.
Back in the 80s the owner can buy a superbowl team, like new York Yankees bought those championships, you got the money buy the best free agents, that all stopped in 90s with salary cap
@@lyleswavel320 People tend to over look how much of an advantage that was. There were very few teams that had a real shot at winning a championship before FA and salary cap.
Lmao, almost tore the Niners apart? Not even close, man. Having been 15 years old the season Walsh manufactured the controversy, there was no chance it was gonna tear anything apart. Other than any friendship Joe and Steve might have had otherwise. Bill did what he did to give Montana that extra push and drive he needed to win two more rings. And to get Steve game experience he needed to make him even better once Joe was done in the bay.
Love steve young but if montana didn't get injured they would have gotten the three peat that year and Montana goes on to win at least one more. So the niners should have at least 6 rings. If he stays injured and the niners go back to montana they still get their 5th and maybe 6th.
Imagine having Joe Montana being your qb and Steve being the backup. That would be a great problem to have. While I agree that Joe was the goat before Brady came along, people take Young for granted, especially the 49er fans, they were too spoiled by the number of great players they had
Steve Young was a great QB, I just think Joe Montana was better. I'm not even a 49ers fan, I'm a Saints fan. Steve Young was very good, he just couldn't dissect defenses as well as Joe Montana
Montana easily is the better qb, but he suffered a ton of damage over time. It was time for steve young to lead the 49er. In revisionist history, 49ers made the right call. Joe lasted 2 more seasons with the chiefs and 49er had a core to get back to the superbowl. If it wasn't for the dallas dynasty, the niners would have probably at least made the superbowl one more time.
As a niners fan who grew up in the 2010s with smith and eventually kapaernick, it makes me pissed when my dad tells me about Montana and young. Like he grew up with two of the greats, and I got two devastating Super Bowl losses🥲
@@AlcoholicAlbert As I say.. 3rd times a charm.
Joe is still the GOAT
The greatest starter backup combo ever 2 hall of famers.
I agree...favre Rodgers are #2
True
In order it goes
1. Montana
2. Rodgers
Young and Favre can fight for third
@@gws259 Favre was better than Rodgers
@@brentjones886 fave was gunnslinger often reckless with his pass mid 90s he ws on pt .rodger has better qb iQ then bret
That 92 season when Young won the MVP while Montana was on the bench cus of injury, that was the writing on the wall.
Yeah it took Joe 1n a half seasons ta get well
The research on this video is 100% I know this story well. I like how you went week by week during that 88 season, the height of this controversy
I was 1 years old in 88' but my dad was a superfan so I've been a niners fan my entire life in the heart of Patriots country, I live 30 mins from Gilette. The history is nuts wish I was old enough to remember this stuff. First game I can remember is the 1992 NFCCG game against the Cowboys
I believe if Steve would have shown he was a better passer or equally better passer as he was a runner, he would have been the starter in 1987 or 88. Steve was very inconsistent as a passer back then, and I believe Bill Walsh used that as the determining factor
I absolutely agree. It was extremely obvious that Steve wasn't on the same level as Montana when it came to throwing the ball in the small number of games he played in 87/88. However, Steve was certainly more athletic and more what they call "twitchy" when it came to improvising with running the ball. If Steve was a little farther along in his development as a passer, he would have been the obvious choice at quarterback from 87/88 onwards.
But Joe is Joe, and was a master at passing the ball and being a leader of men. Much like Brady, Montana was never an impressive physical specimen, but it was the things you couldn't see that made him the great player he was.
Steve Young needed to be a backup for the first couple years, he had potential, but needed to put it all together.
It kinda worked out in the end, Joe was beaten up when he left.
Love the music intro. To me, it wasn't the quarterbacks fault. Bill Walsh did that on purpose. They knew Joe time was running out as an elite QB. His body was breaking down. Joe won that last ring in '89. Steve Young only needed to wait until Joe would inevitably get hurt again and the team was his. That's how it played out. Tough for Joe being that it happened in the NFC Championship Game but that's football.
Young woulda had his start n SB 25 wit no chance a Joe comin back in maybe Bono
You need more views bro keep up the good work
Love watching your content keep up the good work!!!
Glad you enjoy it!
Seems a lot like Brett and Aaron…..
Nop
That’s what the video just said
Great work putting this video together. I feel so blessed being able to watch these games. I was in high school when Joe was beating my Giants and then I was able to enjoy Steve while in college, but hey at least my G-Men won 2. Thanks LT 🤣
Your welcome, glad you enjoyed. FYI next video im working on is a Giants game.. an infamous game
@@ClasherSports That's awesome can't wait. I hit the bell 🔔 so I'll be on the lookout.
@@ClasherSports
Yo dude YOU NEED TO SHOW WHO WON THE KANSAS CITY 🌆 VS SAN FRANCISCO MATCH UP
( MONTANA VS YOUNG SHOOT OUT $)
Not leave it as a teaser; )
“ WHAT’S wrong with that picture!”😮😮😮😮😮😮
@@darrebell3086 good idea.. i'll do it on my other channel.. i moved all my sports stories to @mtcfootball on youtube
Montana made me like football as a child. Young made me love it. Their battle always makes me wonder how many legendary quarterbacks we missed out on because they never got a chance in the league.
It's crazy how terrible he was with Tampa Bay only to eventually break the QB rating record with accuracy out of this world. It would have been so easy for him to have never gotten the right chance with the right team.
"The hits quarterbacks had taken back in those days were nothing compared to today." The qb hits back then were far more devastating compared to what we see today is more like it.
i meant nothing as in... the soft hits we see today
Exactly, Brady wouldn’t be nothing near what he is today
@@skelleytor He's the greatest, he'd be great in any era. Plus he came in before the rules changed anyway.
I'm glad they aren't like that. I wanna see stars on the field.
keep it up bro ur vids are always fire
As a Cowboy fan, I'll never forget the 1992 NFC Championship game where a healthy Joe Montana sat on the bench. Thank you. Steve was good but he's no JoMo! Joe is the GOAT. Excellent video, exactly as I remember it.
thank you! I'll be featuring those classic Cowboys games very soon
@@ClasherSports Awesome, I can't wait! Thank you.
I don’t think Joe woulda won that game lol
@@jrad410 Dallas was going to be tough, regardless of who the 49ers had at QB.
@@jrad410 he had a better chance than Steve. Young turned over the ball 3 times. The holding call on Rices first TD was a bad omen for the 49ers.
49ers crapped on Montana so bad never should have been a controversy Joe would have won two more super with Joe if they would have stayed with the greatest Joe cool tool them letting him call his own plqyes
I am ADDICTED to your awesome channel bro! I love watching all your videos!
As a niner fan born after the bill walsh era, thank u for the deep dive into the past
glad you enjoyed. this took forever to make. researching a lot of those games in during that time
@@ClasherSports i can only imagine brother, great stuff tho man love the content
Walsh knew exactly what he was doing. Like a woman who manipulates two guys against eachother to find out who to monkey-branch to and when.
In Jerry Rice's book, he gives Joe Montana the nod over Steve. He did give Young high praise though.
Did that fool say that "hits back THEN are NOTHING compared to TODAY"??!!
Yeah he must be paid to say that.
Deion was the move that made that 5th SB possible. Same the next year when Deion went to Dallas and they beat Pittsburgh.
I agree. Young could’ve never beaten Dallas without sanders.
I remember watching a video clip of Mike Holmgren telling Bill Walsh during the 1988 season that the 49ers would continue to struggle unless he picked either Montana or Young as the starting QB. Walsh choose Montana and they would go on to win 2 more Super Bowls. Young was very patient and a team player. If he wanted to, he could of demanded a trade and start on another team. But he choose to wait until Montana was traded in 1993 and Young became the permanent starter.
Demand a trade? Bruh the league wasn't like that during that era. Players didn't have any of clout they have now, they were basically owned by teams.
@@mikeybarboza3086 Young could of force the 49ers hand by demanding to start games or sit out the season. He was in position to negotiate since he played well. Plus the 49ers already had Montana. Teams did trade players if it benefited the team. Like the Hershel Walker trade and Charles Haley trade.
@@zerimar26 The only thing Young could do was sit out but the Niners could have sued him for breach of contract and teams would have nosedived in interest for him because of 'behavioral problems.'
Mikey's right, it was a totally different era. Teams had all the power and owners worked closely together to hold 'problem players' down.
Love the video but you cant flip helmets that have letters in the logo
I know but what was I gonna do lol
This wasn't a big debate that almost tore apart the team...it was media fodder only
@ 3:00 - "the hits QBs took back then were nothing compared to what we see today."
- you wrote that wrong. The hits we see today are nothing compared to the ones back then. It doesn't work the other way around. The hits they took back then were EVERYTHING compared to the hits we see today.
Great video, thanks!
The real goat JM16 would have won at least 2 more SB’s had he not left the 9ers
Idk about that
@11:45 Mike Holmgren is an unsung hero in that coach's meeting. He was the one with the balls to stand up and say to Bill, "Bill, you're the problem. Pick one (Quarterback) and be done with it. This is tearing the locker-room apart." It was after that meeting Bill chose to start Joe Montana. It brought an end to an experiment that blew up in Bill's face.
Die 9er fan, this was b4 I became teenager & lived in the Bay Area, those were great times to be a 9er fan, still its rough watching them get to there 2 latest super bowls & watch defeat, but one day they will get there 6th
the baltimore one was tough.. such a great defense that season... #willis
YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN HOW.BAD THEY WERE IN THE 60S AND 70S..THE DOORMAT OF THE WESTERN CONFERENCE LOL LOL
Didn't matter who was QB, Jerry Rice was scoring touchdowns
Montana Young Bono Musgrave Grbac Garcia etc...
Joe won two SBs before Rice got there.
I had the pleasure of meeting Steve Young in person. He’s really nice. Steve Young is the Starter on my millennium team!!
Good research.
Had no idea he was a Tampa Bay Bucc with the creamsicle jerseys 😂
Lol if I was Steve young I would’ve requested a trade
Not if you were on a team that good where you had the highest chance of rings & the GOAT receiver to throw to.
I would have traded young because you would get a lot for young and you had bono as a backup. I would take that scenario over what they did. Unfortunately craig fumbled and lost the quest for threepeat and then Montana got hurt
So you wouldve traded a HOF QB for a bum in Steve Bono?? Yea you're outta your mind bro.
Killed it! Nice job
Is there breaking news on this stuff because the same subject video from mikerophone or whatever his name is just came out today
Mikerophone sucks
i see why nfl so strict on keeping qbs safe after watching this video injury’s left and right to these qbs back in the day
Exactly. I wanna see stars on the field. I don't wanna see them get their brains scrambled and be dead by the time they're 45.
The Niners under Montana, Young, Bill Walsh, George Seifert and Eddie DeBartolo were the best that there will ever be. Signed, a lifelong Browns fan.
The era of heroes.
In America's game, Harris Barton would say that if Steve Young and the 49ers didn't blow the lead against he Cardinals, Steve said he probably would have finished the season out as a starter. This was the back against the wall type of grit you see. 6-5 and essentially needed to win out to win the division. They went 10-6 and after destorying the VIkings, they played the Bears and just torched them in the extreme cold. For those old enough to watch the 88 season, you knew that the 49ers weren't going to lose.
I didn't realize they were both together on the team for such a long time.
Not a Niners fan but, any Niners fan who thinks Young is better than Joe should be pushed off the Golden Gate Bridge. Steve is a Hall Fame QB, but Joe Cool had ice water in his veins. You had to knock him out to beat him. Jim Burt and Leonard Marshall. Only bad playoff loss the 1987 Divisional game. Also, Ronnie Lott and Charles Haley didn’t respect Young.
If Joe stays, 49ers win a fifth SB sooner & a sixth.
Cowboys dynasty was to great, the reality is that Young was alot better than Montana its just Young had to deal with a beget dynasty. Montana dealt with no dynasty.
The old Bucs jerseys were dope
i could see why montana would be pissed. at young he had already won 2 super bowls when steve young came to the 49 ers . young actually asked to be traded to the 49ers. as soon as young got to the team he was saying how bad he wanted to play. if i was montana i would of said to young why are you even here. you could start for most other teams in the league im joe montana im already a legend and this is my team now get the hell out of here
Two HOF quarterbacks SF were in good shape.
Quarterbacks were hit WAY harder back in the day. The hits today are nothing compared to back then
If we would’ve won in 87 through 89 it would’ve been great!! But oh well lol 😂
Would've been great to beat the Chiefs and Ravens too, but I'm now stuck growing up a Niners fan, watching us do a great impression of the Vikings and being really good, but never winning when it matters. Thanks Joe and Steve for spoiling me, and thanks Colin, Alex, and Jimmy for giving me great hopes.
good vid
Imagine Young on Raiders we'd a won SB n mighta never moved back ta Oakland glad dey didn't fa da Oaktown n me
Steve Young was better
At what?
@@donniemeekins7446 at quarterback
@@donniemeekins7446 Technically speaking Young's stats and QBR were better.
Montana 4 rings
Young 1 ring🤔
@@dark8prince201 young has 3
If bye some odd chance it happens so be it for the two headed hydra
People debate which one is better. I'd say Joe Montana. Now if you look at their numbers in the regular season, they're mostly even, so for the deciding factor, we need to implement post season success which gives Montana the clear edge
Seems like the real hero was jerry rice lol
Let’s not forget Montana won 2 Super Bowls without rice. Montana took that crappy franchise and transformed them to the team of the 80s
@@shaheedali651 wow, didn’t know that. That’s crazy
Young was playing much better than Montana during the late season and playoffs of the 87 season.Montana was coming off a serious injury.You could see in the playoff game against the Vikings Young was leading them down the field in relief for Montana that left them down b three touchdowns.
As a chiefs fan, one of my favorite games was being able to beat the 49ers for Montana the first season he played in Kansas City.
How did Montana get back ta back MVPs especially n 90 errbody knows Cunningham shoulda had it. I guess dey wasn't ready fa Black QB ta win yet
@3:03 "The Hits we've seen quarterbacks take back in those days are nothing compared to what we see today" Uhh.. I'm not sure about that one, I'd say they got beat up waaay more back in the 80's
I suspect just like any other "reigning king"..........it is always the hardest thing to do to pass the torch. NOBODY worth their salt GLADLY hands over those reigns (especially in sports). The kings always want to decide for themselves when to go thru the exit doors. They NEVER want that decision made for them. On any other team with Steve Young on a roster, his entry would have been made much sooner, but when you have a legend like Joe Montana walking the hallways of the locker room, there is NO WAY Joe is going to gladly hand over the keys to the locker room. I suppose Walsh, Seifert, and the entire DeBartolo family handled all of this with as much grace and class as they possibly could without stepping into ego land mines along the way. They did the best they could.
People forget the 49ers we’re every bit as bad as the Bucs were when Montana became the QB. Yea Walsh showed up and they were more competitive, but they still lost. Montana turned them into a Dynasty just as Brady did for New England. The great ones can do that. Young went to Tampa and was so bad that he was labeled a bust. When he was traded to the 49ers he knew he landed in a sweet gig. Yea young was bigger, stronger, and faster than Joe but almost every QB in the league was bigger, faster, and stronger than Joe was. Steve Young had several chances to leave after San Fran traded for him. Joe was winning Superbowls while Steve was holding a clipboard. However, Steve never left lol. He knew, he knew the cake was already in the oven. He didn’t have to create anything, just steer the ship that has already been created, a winning culture that he didn’t have to build, it was already in place. Sorry bruh, The 49ers will always be known as the house Joe, Jerry, and Ronnie Lott built. This is coming from a Saints fan who had to watch my team deal with these two forever. We respected Steve, but Joe….we as the entire League feared this dude. He gave you nightmares.
Montana was better than young because his legacy was in the playoffs. He got better as the pressure built.....but looking at Steve's stats in the regular season he was the most efficient qb of all time when compared to his Era. He only had 8 full seasons with the 49ers that qualify him in league leaders. In 8 years he led the league in tds 4 times....comp pct 5 times....avg yds per pass 5 times....NFL qb rating leader 6 times.....and 2 nfl mvps. No qb in the history of the game lead the league that many times in an 8 year period....he just couldn't keep up those performances in the playoffs where as joe played his best in the playoffs and superbowls.
There’s NO contest. Young couldn’t hold out to Joe end of!!!
12:57 "easily dispatched Chicago"? The score was 28-3, but there was nothing easy in that game.
Montana was a god. Young was never as good. He was good no doubt but joe was an inspiration. I loved seeing him beat young in kc.
Same here. I watch that game about 5 times.
So Young jumped from 26Tds ta 35 was he juicing?? 😆lol
Did this dude really say brady vs gorappolo like there was EVER a question who was the starter on that team? .......he must be new to football
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Yeah I think someone commented on that before that we both dropped Montana vids on the same day. I thought it was the same topic but nope haha
Yooo its ya boi mike!!!!!
I see the same format in all these RUclipsrs stuff, guess they have a lil script 🙄
Terrible coaching and Steve Young was no Joe Montana....
All I know is both got hurt and somehow the next guy was always ready to go so to me they always got playing time regardless of who was playing. To me it's like having 2 brothers that are both good at the same thing. They both get credit for getting the team to the Superbowl which both should of been standing together after winning the Super Bowl. That's the way I look at it. Both had each other's back.
Bill Walsh ultimate mind manipulation ta get best outta both QBs cuz he knew he a need both ta win!! JERRY JONES tryna bite off his style!!
I would pick Joe Montana if I was a 49ers fan
Young was the perfect complimentary QB to Montana. But Montana was still the main man though.
The Niners should’ve won at least 3 more sb with that team
Crybaby young never lived up to Montana's greatness. FOUR SUPERBOWLS TO ONE.Montana stayed they would have had two more easy
Against those Packers and Cowboys teams? Maybe if we keep Haley and Deion.
The 49ers weren’t as good as those Cowboy or Packers teams. Montana always had better teams
@@spider-man120 so true
Back then Montana was the greatest to ever do it
Funny how top QBs would maybe get 30TDs. Dat why Marino was so shocking almost like McGwire hitting 70
Marino didn't use roids.
Damn looking back if 9ers started Young vs Minnesota n 87 deyd a won cuz Montana couldn't move wit his bad knee
Them and brett favre and Aaron Rodgers
I don’t think it was ever a controversy as I recall young jst filled in when Montana was hurt
Did somebody pay you to say the hits quarterbacks took back are nothing compared to today?? Or have you never watched games from the 80s?
Yes the hits were more brutal back in the day... what am I missing here?
Phoenix cardinals?? I know Phoenix is in Arizona but that just doesn’t sound right
Tore them apart so much they won back to Back super bowls and almost a 3rd.
Unpopular Opinion: I personally think Steve was better than most ( non-49er fans ) think he was. This video along with his career clearly states what I've been saying for years now... Young was better than Montana. Of course we all love Joe, he brought Super Bowls to the Bay, but let's be honest with ourselves. Not only did Young face stiffer competition, had 49er teams with slightly less talent than Joe, but just look at the stats.
Bro Steve was not better than Joe!!! Let's get that straight!!!
@@bradenlewis2160 Maybe not, but Young did have better stats.
Your context is extremely lacking. Montana came to a team that was piss poor and had to build a winner from the ground up. The PreRice teams were loaded om defense, but their offense although good, didnt compare to the post 86 offensive talent. While Steve Young stepped into a loaded 4 time SB winning team in a pre salary cap era. Huge advantage. Competittion?? Young's comp was probably more top heavy(Cowboys, Packers), but Montana' s comp was deeper. Giants, Redskins, Bears hell even the Saints. Young underachieved continuously. He walked in with Rice, Taylor and Watters and couldnt play well vs Dallas until they literally broke the bank to get one measly title. Young had a litany of great players to win after the Cowboys collapsed. Bryant Young, Dana Stubblefield, TO, Garrison Hearst, Rice, Merton Hanks but he couldnt get the job done.
@@aaronjackson9385 Bill Walsh and Edward DeBartolo Jr. had more impact on building that team to be a winner then Montana. Compare Young's last season in Tampa to his first season with 49ers and you will see how much impact Walsh's system had on QB's. Not trying to take anything away from Montana, but you can't over look other factors.
When Young lost to Dallas in the playoffs it's true he wasn't that great, but the defense also gave up 30 points and 38 points.
Montana never won a playoff game in his career where the defense gave up more then 27 points.
I also wouldn't put Saints in there while comparing competition, Saints were good the last 2 years Montana was QB and the first 2 years Young was QB. It's a wash.
@@poizie85g83 of course the Niners were a first class organization with elite coaching. I never disputed that. But the fact of the matter is, Montana came to a poor team.and his greatness was a major factor in their ascent to greatness, while Young came to a ready made championship level squad and comparatively he did a lot less. Ownership is only as great as its players. Name an owner that was praised extensively that didnt field a good team?? Ownership is a results business. I cant turn on film and watch an owner perform like I can a Walter Payton or Barry Sanders and marvel at their greatness despite having some talent starved teams at times.
I bet Dat Creamsicle 10year Bucs anniversary Young jersey worth major scrilla!!!
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Montana was awesome.
Montana made the 49ers a dynasty in the 80's until injuries slowed him up.
Young was good.
I’m sorry, but if Montana was fragile
I'm sorry, but Montana played when the NFL was REAL, unlike today where QBs are protected like Faberge eggs.
So Bill Belichek got his dump them a year earlier from Bill Walsh??? Bill Walsh the GOAT coach and Joe is the GOAT QB. Brady would've been aten alive in the 80s an 90s
Damn even ta dis day SB 28 would b Tha #1 highest-rated ever if Niners beat Dallas n KC beat Buffalo. The league couldn't even rigg it up cuz dey both got blown out n Championship game
5:00 I'm surprised Young went out w head trauma he had ta b f up especially back den
History repeats itself now its jimmy g n trey lance
Joe for me is the goat brady is great but he has something on his record that joe dont..... loses. Goats dont lose that's what makes them a goat NO LOSES OR PARTICIPATION TROPHYS lik bron has for the NBA to many hav that 0 in lose column.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard
BS. You can't simply throw aside Montana's playoff losses. Those most definitely count.
Back in the 80s the owner can buy a superbowl team, like new York Yankees bought those championships, you got the money buy the best free agents, that all stopped in 90s with salary cap
@@lyleswavel320 People tend to over look how much of an advantage that was. There were very few teams that had a real shot at winning a championship before FA and salary cap.
Dude this isn’t even a debate Brady is the GOAT and it’s not particularly close
Steve Young was lowkey overrated
That's false, he was everything he's been portrayed as. He was just more of a gunslinger like Favre, not a pure oasser like Montana.
He was better than Montana
@@kingtaylor201 he definitely had a skill Montana didn't have: mobility. Steve had wheels 🏃🏿💨💨💨
@@MrGrace of course hes best DT QB ever
@@kingtaylor201 yeah cause 1 Superbowl is better than the 4 that Joe won
Lmao, almost tore the Niners apart? Not even close, man. Having been 15 years old the season Walsh manufactured the controversy, there was no chance it was gonna tear anything apart. Other than any friendship Joe and Steve might have had otherwise. Bill did what he did to give Montana that extra push and drive he needed to win two more rings. And to get Steve game experience he needed to make him even better once Joe was done in the bay.
Love steve young but if montana didn't get injured they would have gotten the three peat that year and Montana goes on to win at least one more. So the niners should have at least 6 rings. If he stays injured and the niners go back to montana they still get their 5th and maybe 6th.
Steve Young was my guy