BIG VS SMALL LONGBOARD WHEELS - WHICH IS BETTER FOR CRUISING?
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- Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024
- Today we're looking at big vs small longboard wheels. We're comparing how the 80mm Orangtang Kegels compare to the 63mm tall EZ Hawgs when riding over rough ground, pebbles, cracks, and how they accelerate and keep their momentum.
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The last test at the end really highlights how having sufficient kinetic energy to get past a small gap in the surface or over something like a small stick or large pebbles is a huge factor. At slow speeds a pebble will still bring a large wheel to a screeching halt, but with enough speed, a reasonably large wheel should be able to cruise over it just fine.
Also, taking the weight off the front wheels and back wheels as necessary can help a lot.
The rougher the terrain the quicker the wheels wear out;
I'd have worn a helmet and pads.. lol. Brave man.
In my experience my 69mm 78a wheels haven't been stopped by anything. They either shoot away or go under. Beautiful wheels
This is going to be really helpful for new longboarders, well done! I wish this had been around when I started.
Good sir I like your accent and how articulate you are in your mannerisms. A good gentleman.
I have a bunch of boards and keep coming back to the 22" penny. I just replace the wheels with the cheapest 72mm (Nana) or 70mm (Cadillac) I can find and with the thin board get no wheel bite w/o risers or ANY other hassles or tweaks. Can take anywhere, skate any weather, grip never wears out or wears down clothing or my bag. Such an easy simple no headache CHEAP and convenient option that I end up always having it on me and so skating more without even trying.
I love the new channel. More content like this or comparing boards would be cool to hear from you as well.
Will be trying that out!
Your review videos are very well done. Very informative.
You have a dusty environment, would be cool to see a video how you maintain your setups, especially the bearings (how often and method to maintaining). Great videos!
I come from a cycling background…it’s very well known in cycling circles that larger = faster. I always try to run the largest wheel/tire combination my frame will allow for.
So I will be carrying that over to my longboard setup (Zenit BB)…going to put some 105mm Dad Bods.
I have 92mm 74a karma wheels, but thinkin to change those for Dad Bods 105 and 80a, for hopeing more speed, even the karma is extremly light wheel
I got a carbon trip with 85mm speedvents. It's so nice for cruising around town, but im having a hard time sliding with them 😅
You make sliding look so easy and controlled.
Awesome video! It’s not as simple as big = better. I have a set of LY lil’ easy hawgs and they’re so amazing!
I liked using 85mm on a drop deck. So comfy for just cruising. Surprised the big wheels didn’t roll much farther in your tests. They certainly feel like they roll farther!
I didn't push as hard as I could with the big wheels. I got more steps in with the smaller wheels. Def should have tried the push test more times
Yea i slapped on 70 mm supreme hawgs on the dinghy and it's basically a mini tank.
Whoa is that THE jumblemess????? I'm your number one fan!!!
Need to do the same shortly!!
much love from south wales! you have great content, keep it up and never stop rollin' brother
Thanks! Will do!
How are you liking them? The 77a ones?
I'm debating to get kegels in 77a instead of 80a.
I mostly cruise, carve, and commute. No downhill, freeride, or free style. One day I might learn the slide stop.
I read some reviews complaining the 77a blue ones don't last and get damaged easily. How are you liking them? The 77a ones?
I'm debating to get kegels in 77a instead of 80a.
I mostly cruise, carve, and commute. No downhill, freeride, or free style. One day I might learn the slide stop.
I read some reviews complaining the 77a blue ones don't last and get damaged easily. Like chunking or small scratches because of the softness
I don't weigh a lot. 137lbs so having 77-80a is my sweet spot. I've always gotten either 77a or 78a. So a softer wheel works for me. Maybe the softness of the 77a will be balanced by my low weight on not get as damaged?
Can you report on how your 77a levels have held up?
Are they bad for cruising and carving? I thought the large core would offset the slow acceleration of the big wheel. Are the kegels more for racing/DH or are they versatile enough for commuting?
I'm also thinking about the in heat 75mm in 77a or 80a
It's between these two wheels and two durometers
My board is an arbor pintail gt 46"length by 9.3" width.
I don't weigh a lot. 137lbs so having 77-80a is my sweet spot. I've always gotten either 77a or 78a. So a softer wheel works for me
Can you report on how your 77a levels have held up?
Are they bad for cruising and carving? I thought the large core would offset the slow acceleration of the big wheel. Are the kegels more for racing/DH or are they versatile enough for commuting?
I'm also thinking about the in heat 75mm in 77a or 80a
It's between these two wheels and two durometers
My board is an arbor pintail gt 46"length by 9.3" width.
thx so so so so much dude!!! the test was amazing!!! so usefull!
respect the hustle
New here and found this video super helpful.
My main board is a 42" Rayne demon seed with 50° V3 Paris trucks and 70mm Liam Morgan pro wheels. I also have a stock ATVX Ditch life for when I'm in the city.
Is the Demon seed for sliding? Sounds fun. Wish I got my hands on the ATV boards, have an itch tos cratch when it comes to doing tricks
@@LongboardingExplained It's meant to help me learn to, but I need harder bushings first.
New Subscriber here from Philippines, love your channel Man. Keep it up.. 💪🏼🤘🏽
thanks bro :)
Your channels always rock!
Hi Abuga, your videos (by far) have been some of the most helpful as I've been trying to get into longboarding, thank you so much!
I'm thinking of buying some Kegels for my Dervish Sama, for my 12 km city commute. I've read that people have had problems with chipping and durability with Kegels, ¿is this something you've noticed or had issues with?
Also, since it's city riding (mostly sidewalks and bike paths), I was wondering if maybe the kegels were TOO big(?) I want to push the least amount possible lol. I was looking into big wheels (kegels or Caguamas), but is there such a thing as wheels that are TOO big?
Awesome. I follow your videos. Big wheels for decks drop down / drop thtough and double drops.
Regards from Buenos Aires, dude
Hello, so I did order a Landyachtz Ripper with 130mm Polar Bear trucks and it comes with the 63mm Fatty Hawgs, so you know what the maximum size wheels I could put on it without wheel bite?
For a top mount longboard, what would you consider the best option? Bigger wheels would increase ground clearance, making it harder to break and push, but would be better for terrain.
It's not just the wheels. Although bigger wheels can go over more.Thanks.It's the bearings that keep them rolling longer
I’m really enjoying all your videos, thanks for the awesome info! Btw, my current setup is a LY Dinghy Coffin with 63mm wheels. I probably won’t go any bigger on that board, but I’m looking at getting a drop through deck and adding either 80mm or 85mm wheels to it for maximum cruise.
hmmm, I think you could go upto 70mm on a Dinghy with a small chance of wheelbite. but yeah, a drop deck with 80mm+ wheels is a great thing to go for
Yeah...wasn't really a fan of the eazy hawgs when I tried them...I remember I was complaining about how I felt all the vibrations and imperfections on the road... didn't really know why, but now I do
I absolutely loved the 72mm plow kings (don't remember if they were plow kings) though
Yeah they def have a time and a place. The Ez Hawgs are good when used appropriately. but the bigger softer wheels are just so much better for cruising ... on the right board ofcourse!
Great video
The new giant 105mm Dad Bods are awesome
Great video!😁👍
I’m riding a ladyacthz fender with 70mm orangatang and it works awesome for my city streets.
Sounds pretty good! Do you get wheelbite easily?
I have a Tugboat rn with the wheels it come that are the hawgs, but im thinking to put something bigger like a 70 or something like that and i saw the shark wheels and it looks funny, those wheels are good?
No, quite slow compared to most wheels coupled with poor traction and awful slide characteristics they are pretty dangerous to DH on and make for terrible cruiser wheels 🤷
@@swannybo1sk8s9 Wow ok thanks better to keep away from them
Yuh they look neat but hard pass on them for me broski
Never tried shark wheels but haven't heard the best thing from experienced riders in the scene. I think you'd be better with the Supreme Hawgs or 70mm wheels from any quality brand
@@LongboardingExplained thx I’ll look for one of those
Liking the new channel!
Thank you for the great video..👆
Awesome vdo bro!
Hi. I´d like to put some 75 mm Seismic Hotspots on my Streetdevil symmetrical dropthrough longboard, but it looks as if they would bite from the side into the cutout ends of the board in tighter turns, which I don´t want to take the risk of trying. I still wonder if some harder bushings, which I happen to have lying around could help that. So far however, since it used to be my rain board during winter it is lying there deconstructed with rusty bearings, which I still need to see if I can clean properly.
Thanks for the video, I was wondering how small a wheel could rasonably be on a longboard, was even looking at 59 mm supposedly slidy wheels before.
I would recomend trying some softer double barrel bushings and a cupped washer roadside instead of harder bushigns. You will still get an easy to turn board that will respond quickly, but you'll get a smoother lean and it will be harder to get it to bite!
@@LongboardingExplained What is the difference between using a cupped washer roadside vs boardside to control lean whilst having smooth, responsive turning? I don't like the way a cupped washer boardside changes the bushing's responsiveness as you lean but I would like to put a hard limit on my lean if using bigger wheels.
@@alexmc69 Cupped washer roadisde feels like it limits turn. Cupped washer boardside feels like it limits lean.
I've always felt with it roadside is the best. It reduces the chance of getting bite and doesn't restrict the trucks feeling too much
Got those wheels on my tan tien looks insane as they are so big but nothing can stop it only problem they are heavy and ollies are very difficult on it now, also any kicktail moves have a chance of catching the wheels if I am not careful.
My first real good board was the Drop Hammer and is still my favourite. Because of your vid I bought the 77a Kegel and put them on. Hell, I love them!!! I ride it with the orange orangatang knuckles. My other boards are a 50 Eur cheap Loaded tantien with orange 4Pres, a 20 eur sector9 Pintail I restored and put Paris v3 and arbor summits under. Carves like hell. Another board a Arbor Fish and a LY 9to5. Last one a Miller Surfskate. All that came to me like baby rabbits within half a year and I had to stop looking for cheap boards 🤣🤪😵💫. They find me in a glimpse and get more and more. Everytime it is hard to decide what to take.
I bet the Drop Hammer is super fun with those knuckles! I'm jealous. You have a good quiver too! I know what you mean, it's so easy to keep buying boards haha
Hello. I'm a beginner (except for a summer in skateboarding), the dinghy blunt is my first board and I find the 60mm wheels small and too victim of the vagaries of the road, which makes the riding experience less chill. I was thinking, either try putting bigger wheels but I don't know which ones (65mm, 68mm, 72 plow king?) what is your opinion?
Maybe I can also exchange my dinghy for a drop cat 33 with someone, but maybe that will be too small and it is better that I keep the dinghy with big wheel and buy the drop cat 38 later
If you get the 38 drop cat you will be abit better off. You can probably put plow kings on your dinghy, and some risers too :)
@@LongboardingExplained i dont want to be too high on the dinghy. I want to put thé bigger wheels as possible WITHOUT risers.
which better for curising depends on how ruff the road it. crack to wheel should be greater than 1 to 4. So the wheel need to be 4 time bigger than crack. so if there is 15mm cracks you need at least 60mm wheel. If road in really poor shape and there is 20mm cracks then you need 80mm. Also the ratio rule goes for bumps too. though for bumps it more like 1 to 8 to be on the safe side. this also goes for the size of the rocks.
I run some HUGE 96mm 78a's on my drop through. They roll forever and can handle tons of debris in the road. My only real complaint is that the board is a bit heavier when I pick it up, but it can handle so many road conditions that I end up picking it up a lot less anyways.
96 mm is massive! What wheels did you get?
i'm a year late on this but if you're for some reason still interested, they're bigfoot 97mm 78a's (not 96, my mistake) i got them on amazon for 25ish bucks, i'm still super happy with them though!
Do you have any longboard storage ideas?
Would 70 mm Supreme Hawgs fit on the Tugboat without wheelbite issues?
You'll probably get bite. I'll test this down the line, but if you're careful then the bite won't be an issue
Bro, this aint cruising. This is rallying! LMAO! Great video! ❤️
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Completely new at all board things.. different kind too, but guessing same principle applies for them all? Smaller and harder for smooth surfaces and bigger and softer for uneven surfaces?
Not quite ... but yes. Other thigns like the riding style and use also matter in selection!
@@LongboardingExplained fair enough.. no big tricks.. just cruising basically.. roads, so not super smooth.. wheels feel like any pebble will cause a problem though.. 63 or 65mm.. seeing how the smaller ones reacted in the vid, they could easily send me flying I guess haha.. I was thinking 70mm and 77a might be better, but I didn't consider wheelbite haha.. all theory atm so good to see your clip:)
Greetings from Southern California! Great vid, really enjoyed the info and demonstration, thank you! Liked and subscribed. I am new to skateboarding, kind of. Until a few months ago, it had been 45 years since I last skateboarded and surfed in high school. My comeback started with different sized Penny boards and now I own an Arbor Flagship Zeppelin 32" drop-through longboard with 65mm/78A wheels. The board rides and carves beautifully, but I am considering at least 5mm larger wheels, maybe larger. I try to avoid all obstacles on paths, but know it's safer to have larger wheels when I can't respond quickly enough to pebbles or cracks in the pavement. I think 80mm wheels would be too large, eh?
yeah go for the bigger wheels! I'm nto sure if it will give you any wheelbite but it is worth it. 70-75mm should be a safe bet
@@LongboardingExplained Thanks for your feedback.
80mm wheels are huge you would be surprised that when at speed pebbles get blasted out from under most wheels, even small ones. I have only been stopped by an obstacle once (a piece of bark) and that was on a set of 63mm not going particularly fast and I took a rather horrible fall, swapped those out for 70mm and they roll over virtually everything. I have some 75mm on my tan tien for no nonsense rolling but they are very difficult to ollie and when standing on the rear kicktail it is easy to catch the wheel as it is so prominent (will probably swap these out for 70mm) and the tan tien is quite small. I would say that 70mm is the sweet spot between stability and usability for things like ollies / carrying etc.
Все предельно понятно, спасибо
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Small wheels speed up faster (with or without pushing), and climb hills better. Larger roll longer better, have a higher top end speed on big dowhill straights.
ayyyyyy hell yeah brother!
Landyachtz slim jim and drop cat 38
Current size is 90mm or 105mm!
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I think big wheels are just a waste of money. I have tried Speedvents purple blackops 85 mm. My original wheels are Arbor Easyrider 69 mm. The difference is small. And my speedwents have chunks after only 6 weeks. The Arbor have not and I used them 5 times more. Anyway who ride on roads like those in your video? It s just for test. Ok but in real life you don t need big wheels bigger than 70 mm for two reasons - short life and very expensive.
No way bro. Speed vents are known for chunking so that is just a speedvent issue.
Big wheels make distance skating way easier. So they're still worth it
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70mm and soft as shit 👌
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80mm is not thaaat big, I love my 105mm dad bods for ldp
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