Longboarding Wheel Clinic - DB Longboards
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- DB Longboards team rider Nick Di Vona explains the differences between four categories of longboarding wheels: Grip Only, Race / Fast Freeride, Freeride, Tech Freeride. Learn the pros and cons of each longboard wheel and get a good idea of what kind of wheel is good for what set up. If you have any questions or comments leave them in the comments and we'll get back to you as soon as possible!
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could you put a list of all the wheels in the description please? thanks
hi dad
hey guys, good info video, i'd just recommend putting a quick category jump on the "shop" area of your webpage, because, as a user, it's frustrating to say the least, to be scrolling down the whole page and seeing what category i'm currently at, so consider adding a list of all the categories on the top of the page that jumps straight to the subcategory you want, cheers
I have the Abec 11 grippins and I have a really hard time sliding with them. Should I go buy some Abec 11 flash backs or orangutang stims? I am mainly going to be cruisin around and sliding and not hitting high speeds.
imCOOL635 why do you think there called gripins
This video seems super popular, because it has alot of comments!!! I mean just check it for yourself, you will scroll down many many pages!! Good to read these to learn alot about longboard wheels.
I want to get a a sector 9 dropper longboard, I'm stuck on that one. I don't know what wheels to get though. I want to cruise around to and from school, etc but I also want to learn how to slide soon so that I can speed check in case I go to fast on a hill. can somebody help me?
Slap on some monster hawg 76mm 88a on your board then. Good for cruising, going fast and sliding
Sector 9 Butterballs 80a 74(i think) mm is a great all around wheel
I've discovered that if you put your side set wheels on backwards it actually slides way more but you need wider trucks to make it work and look better.
I discover something new every day, there's geeks of all types out there.
I was in the same situation as you about a month ago, get some little for grippy wheels and then when that gets boring go more for freeriding wheels
So I live in a small town and I feel like people might get annoyed when certain places in my routine are just covered with marks. Especially because there are a lot of reeally old people here plus I know the majority of the people here. So, I was wondering if there is a good mostly sliding/freeride wheel(since I do ride in a small hilly town) that either leaves a clear trail or doesn't leave a trail? My current wheels don't leave marks as far as I know and I'm honestly not sure why, my guess was always they're hard enough to just skid and not... rip? or the remains are just clear. it does make a skidding noise so maybe the town folk would prefer silence over marks.
It all depends on the duro your wheel is and how fast you're sliding, a harder duro is generally gonna leave less than, but be icy and more uncontrollable than a lower duro wheel. Usually if you're sliding at 20 mph or up on some nice smooth road you'll leave large thane lines, while if you slide slower you're not creating enough friction for the wheel to thane. So basically wheels that don't thane too easy would be some hard duro wheels, or wheels with a large core. I'd recommend some boss hawgs, (76 a for 160 and up, 78a for 150-130 and 80a for any lighter rider) or some 86a orangatang wheels. Hope this helped!
Try anything by RAD. They basically chunk instead of thaning :')
erock676 don't skate if you worry about that shit
About 172 pages!!!! Wow! that's alot of interest in one video about longboard wheels! The longboard community must be looking for more social interaction and comraderie and willing to share their knowledge and experiences.
"it's not really going to slight real well, unless you're going upwards of 40mph..." Thats really fast does anyone go faster than that?
Slide real well***
yes
80 mph yes
89MPH
@BassandLongboardguy
Personally my favorite freeride/ cruise wheels are 70mm80a Orangatang 4presidents or 70mm78a Offset Sector 9 Raceforms. Both have a square lip to provide a little bit of grip and a good urethane compound to allow for buttery smooth slides.
-Nick
What is a 70mm 80a sector 9 butterball good for?
+LeafyisThere Slides mate , Freeride
+Waffen Treager thx just got a set
+Zech 101001011 wut
+LeafyisThere you know... the stuff people say to the real leafy.
+Zech 101001011 oh i thought u were for real
Been slideing for only a few days and the only wheels I can standup slide on is abec 11 freeriders I got new from a mate! Best wheels ever iv been riding for years all sorts of boards but just never could slide, got the free riders, and I can do it's so easy now!
Awesome video!! VERY informative and put together well... it sounds like you know a lot and have a lot of passion for this. keep up the good work!!
What is going to make the difference between the ABEC 11 (75mm) BigZigs in 77a and 83a?
Is 83a harder, and what will be better for just cruising but also maintaining speed and grip? Thanks for the great vid!
Dang, I wish I had watched this before my shopping yesterday -____-ʻʻ
I just got the 9 two 5 from landyachtz, and 71 mm zombie Hawgs, rides really smooth and its a great board. Great cruising, and great downhill riding. I recommend either the time machine, 9 two 5, or the top speed. Great boards!
When ur thinking about joint papers u say zig zag instead of big zig
@intellegantius
The flashback is sideset making it a little bit easier to kick out sideways. The flashback also has more urethane on it which leads to a longer life. That being said the freerides do have a super buttery slide as well. Personally they are both very easy wheels to slide on. I would recommend freerides for slower freeriding and flashbacks for faster freeriding. PM me if you have any more questions.
-Nick
1:33 Classic zig-zag? I think we have a smoker here, haha
this might be a stupid question, but im new to longboarding and im wondering if skateboard bearings will fit in any type of longboard wheel?
no shark wheels
Shark wheels don't suck they're just not made for sliding really. They special thing about shark wheels that makes them different than other wheels is their ability to roll over pebbles and cracks better than other wheels, not sliding.
they slide nicely though
They work well.
Is there a speed difference between 78a and 82-83a?
Am looking for best speed on a cruiser board,on pavement.
I have 60mm 78a and 66mm 78a but thinking if 82-83 would be better.
Why am I watching this? I skateboard.
Same here😂
When you find that smooth 40mph hill that goes on forever... you'll want a spare longboard with tight trucks.
hey nick, ive been watching ur vids 4 ever and what is ur opinion on the 81a flashbacks? im thinking about getting them on my freeride setup. besides thane, like do they last longish and r they good for sliding far without shaving off all ur speed?
did he say nigha
no, you did...
@MrRockgod742
Yeah, they could be used for a more tech dh course but since they have rounded lips they don't have a great amount of grip since they are designed around sliding.
Im kinda new to sliding and just learning how. Do u think Sector 9 Race Forms would be good for me to learn? If so what size and stuff?
@frank12364
infact they are very different. Poured in the mini monster mold for the freerides and then for the slides all we do is cut off the lips at a near 45 degree angle. otherwise the two wheels are identical to each other (slide and freeride). Plus the cloud ride urethane doesn't wear down nearly as fast as fireballs.
Between the cloudride freeride and slide, which one do you think would be better? The only reason i ask is cuz i really dont like squared lips but i also want to be able to bomb hills while doing good slides.
@SnakeMaster3531
The flex is more likely to bounce you off of your board when you kick it sideways. Would recommend a stiffer deck for freeride/downhill
Have you broken them in? Also, you gotta go really fast on flywheels, they don't perform as well at low speeds. They're almost more for Tech DH or super fast freeride.
@ImLyriix
I would recommend something with a pre broken in surface for a beginner. Something like a Cloud Ride Slide or Landyachtz Zombie Hawg. Both of these are in stock on our website. Free shipping as well!
-Nick
@Unrealisticname Interesting. I agree with you on the 86a formula. It blows hard. My bro bought me some 86a in heats (he knows nothing) and they are gross to slide on and only grip on really really smooth pavement. I'd like to try out the new baluts. I think the orange ones have potential. BTW have you ridden the cult DH wheel? I'm thinking about it....
@MSteinMusic
1. Ensure they are broken in properly.
2. make sure there is no slop in your trucks
3. make sure you have speedrings and a center spacer.
4. go faster
-Nick
if your looking to drift around corners doing downhill id suggest abec 11 flasbacks or big zigs if you want even more grip
ive had racing wheels (76 mm 81a) which i could practically run over everythimg with... now i want to learn how to slide/speed check while knowing i can ride without a lot of bumps, hitting pebbles and flying off, etc. which wheels would be best to learn and keep for a long time?
What would be the best wheel to go about 25 30 mph that has a great smooth slide with lots of thane marks?
im new to skateboarding and am wondering what wheels would you use for rough ground
I would go with orange or yellow orangatang 4-prez depending on what duro you would want.
I got a longboard for my 18th birthday a couple days ago, I have skated with a regular skateboard since middle school and am quite good with it but long board is really new for me. I enjoy the smooth feel and the speed but I don't know what tricks to do to stop. I have grip wheels on it and is very long. Are their any tricks any one can suggest to me to slow the speed while I'm cruising downhill? If so, please do respond. Thank you.
Hey, i have a 42 inch complete board and i've recently decided to upgrade my wheels. The wheels that are already on right now are 77mm but i was wondering what wheels & size you could suggest for mostly cruising, can hit high speeds quickly without the actual wheels being too heavy, and some sliding. I don't use my board everyday so i'm not looking for some crazy expensive wheels. Just good quality and a decent price. Also, in my town is the van's store and the zumiez and both of their selections are horrible, so i'd have to order online.
No problem dude. Oh, also, you want to consider the size. Typically smaller wheels have smoother slides, while bigger ones have more choppy slides. Hope this helped man!
I just got a downhill drop through complete longboard with 71mm wheel and 78a urethane. I ride mostly on sidewalks and what not. I also got super red bearings but I'm still not cruising for as long as I want to. I was thinking about changing my wheels. What type and side should I get
Dude this is your lucky day, month, year, decades?! What I can share with you will will have you flying in no time! I've tested it and proven that it works since 2006! The only problem is that not many skateboarders have taken the time to try it out. Instead of wasting your money on buying set after set of wheels and being disappointed just do what I did and take one wheel of each 4 different sets and install it on your board. I know it sounds crazy but hear me out. Move 1 wheel at a time to a different location on the trucks (there are 4 possibilities) then do a short test ride. Keep moving 1 wheel at a time, test ride and repeat. Do this for 1 to no more than 2 hours. Most of the time you will notice an increase in speed and rolling distance with each wheel change. Often I bring a bag of up to 9 different extra wheels of all the same size whether 65, or 70 mm to add to the mix. This increases my chances of fitting on a super fast combination of wheels. Think of it like a rubix cube puzzle, you need to keep it moving, changing, switching, rotating, and testing until you feel a faster better glide. And believe me you will feel it. Just keep a skate tool in your pocket or hand because you will need to change wheels at least 2 dozen times! Good luck and tell others about it when you're successful.
alright, but with harder duros can you hold the drift longer? (around corners, or drifting on a straight aways to loose speed) cuz thats all im trying to do.
Hey bro! Thank you, thank you.. I'm new to skateboarding and longboarding..
I really appreciated this info... You know your stuff dude!
how fast do the slide wheels wear out? and is it a good idea to have ceramic bearings when sliding or will it make it harder?
hello guys. what do you think about 76mm 82a zombie hawgs yellow wheels?
i ride those wheels and i found it a bit harder for sliding
i agree with you! stims are awesome. my favorite wheel for sure
i have a habitat board with abec 9 bearings. i was wondering what wheels would be best for just freeride and cruising
@immortalvizion: grip and technical dh. Its usually down to the hardness or softness of the wheel
I have the In Heats 86a and I can tell you that once they are breaked-in, they slide pretty good. Not as much as the Durians but I like them for carving and for keeping a good amount of grip.
little advice: I have a pair of 76mm 84a zombie hawgs and they're actually mad legit for sliding. I like a lot of standup slides and freeride stuff, and they work out great. Compared to a zombie (ridden 82 and 84a), I would say they throw longer slides, but are more chattery as they have a square lip. Still stable for DH. and I don't see how a 78a can be considered an exlusively freeride wheel.
hi, im new with longboards and I've got a question:
is an 80a so gripy or what does this number mean?
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I have a set of Bigfoot Paradise 78As that cruise REALLY well. But they suck for sliding, so keep that in mind if you ever want to slide.
just some nobbie question i receive my new wheels but i notice theres a "scotch tape" around the wheels do i need to remove it?? i saw some kids having those tape on while others dont?
Take that tape off brother. It serves only to protect the wheel before use.
Um, are you talking about the "glossy" look of the wheels? That is just because they are fresh and the mold release has not worn off them yet. It wears off in a few slides.
hey man, i ride 81a freerides but i cant hold out my standees as i could with my 80a stims because once i break free i just whip around, i mean its good for slide shuvs and tech stuff because you dont have to worry about the board getting around and its super buttery, but is there any technique into getting big standees with a pretty icy wheel like that? (im only 95 pounds)
i personally like the 78a centerset raceforms great for dh, they grip really well around corners, and they slide smooth enough and it kills a lot of speed that predrifts are really good
Otang 4prez are grippy, but after a few hours of riding break in to become a very controllable freeride wheel
The s9 Dual duros are amazing. My favorite wheel ever. They grip like a softer wheel but slide smoothly like a harder wheel.
I had to undersized wheels to my longboard when I had my accident I bust my head open I was also not wearing a helmet like you and it didn't go very well cuz it was blood everywhere
I weigh about 115lbs. I'm really interested in the cloud ride freeride 83a wheels. I do both freeride and downhill. Would I be able to go down big hills with the cloud rides without slipping out?
hey guys i was just wondering on some suggestions what is a good down hill wheel that can also slide really good ?
please give me some suggestions
@JustinCagnassola It means durometer, which is the unit that is used to measure how hard the urethane is.
Start with the coleman 180, a safer way of breaking your wheels in and building your confidence in doing the turn. You commented 2 weeks ago so hope it's all gone well!
hey so i just got the landyachtz switchblade and i ride 78a these wheels and they are good, but i was wondering what another good wheel would be for sliding and also going about 35 down hills, what are some good wheels for me?
@MountainTopBoards
Stims would be in the freeride only category. None were in stock when this video was made but it would be in the far left category.
Softer usually means you are going to have a smoother slide, but it will be harder to break your traction and get into the slide, whereas harder wheels will be less grippy and will go into the slide more easily, but will have more of a choppy feel
I'm relatively new to longboarding, and I was wondering about something. If you take a grippy wheel that doesn't slide, how are you supposed to slow down on a slope? Carving I'm sure could work, but it isn't always reliable.
Do you make sure to push your, for example, heel side foot forward as you do the carve?
Thanks for the effort in making vid. I don't already know the terminology so not a lot of information for this newbie.
i like 83A durians. they're heavy wheels that rip the road up and they're pretty good for sliding
What is the difference between sliding and free ride wheels,I'm looking to get some but what I'm going to do is going fast and and sliding, what type of wheel should I go with?
@MrINFL8
personal favorite freeride wheel is a Centerset Sector 9 Race formula 70mm78a.
-Nick
I bought a longboard at a garage sale dirt cheap. It's a sector 9 , it's a decent length and has that old school look to it but the wheels are very grippy id like to say. i have no idea what anything on the board is other than the deck its self. I have decent skating experience so i know 90% of the mechanics of riding but it has A LOT of flex how would i go about making it a board for sliding or would you reccomend just getting a new board. if so reccomend a site please ^^
@Sjanetsky1
We're waiting for those new wheels to get in stock(Baluts and Mini zombies). Keep in mind that DB is a somewhat small shop and we cannot necessarily stock every wheel out there. If we see enough interest in something we might consider stocking it in the future. Let us know!
-Nick
What type of wheels would be good for cruising around town? My board is around 38" - 40". What type of brand and what type of wheels should i get?
i just got an apex 37 diamond drop and am looking for a good setup. this video was a big help but any other advice would be great!! :)
ok so i just decided to start long boarding and i went out and just bought a board.. everything is myrtle by russ pope, don't care if thats good or not i just like how the board felt, but i was wondering if 60mm 85a wheels are good for doing whatever, I'm not looking to slide or go 40mph, just to free ride in a lot of place just wondering if thats the kind of wheel i needed
Yeah, the number before the "a" is the duro and a harder duro slides better. But you also have to consider the shape of the wheel, especially the lips. For example: Sliding 82a Sector 9 Race Formulas is easier than the 86a Orangatang 4prez's because they have a round lip and the 4prez's have more of an edgy lip.
@stinkyloveproduction
Well the more you get into free ride specific wheels the less I would recommend them for downhill just because when going fast a freeride wheel is not going to be as predictable at high speed sliding as a more downhill oriented wheel. That being said a good all around wheel is a 70mm78a Abec 11 classic zigzag or a 70mm sector 9 race formula wheel!
-Nick
awesome mate thanks for the speedy reply! what kinda flex does the cosmo have? is it stiffer than the single speed?
I have the gumballs and there kinda hard to slide on if your not a pro I would recommend the free ride because there pretty grippy and they slide.
@BassandLongboardguy
A rad freeride wheel with a long life. Don't expect a ton of grip from these though! Recommended duro 78, 80, or 82a.
-Nick
Lol it's okay if you don't answer but I have a sector 9 downhill longboard and was wondering what the best wheels for a beginner trying to learn to slide are
Hey. I'm new to sliding and having trouble breaking my grip to the road. I want a wheel that I can slide with (mainly just speed checks and 180's) but still have a fair amount of grip. I would also like them to be a quieter type of wheel if that is possible. Could anyone help me out with what wheel I should get?
I got a complete deville longboard with deville 76 drain pipe wheels i was wonder what your opinions are on this board and wheels?
what wheel should i get if i want to do cruising and sliding on a normal skateboard? I'd 60mm would make sense for the narrow trucks, but you don't show any 60mm wheels...
Can't decide I want some sliding wheels and not sure if I should go with 84a zombie Hawgs, or Abec 11 freerides, not sure exactly which. Any opinions, have you guys rode either???
so which wheels are the best/easiest to break traction?
Any thoughts on what wheels I should get for my apex 40 diamond drop, looking for sliding and carving, any recommendations would help a lot. Thanks!
I am still learning to slide and i do alot of DH around 35mph. Whats a good wheel that could be pretty easy to do a 180 standie but won't lose grip at high speeds?
What should I choose if I want something primarily for casual riding, cruising and commuting, but when I want to I can throw in some slides here and there?
Sector 9 Butterballs, super smooth even on rough aphsalt and pretty fast and is grippy enough for beginners. They are also hard enough to slide amazingly. One thing i dont recommend is going out in the rain it will throw you off like a bull on steroids
The higher the "a" the harder the wheel making it easier to slide at low speeds. High duro wheels are good for beginning to slide although more experienced riders learn to appreciate the smooth slides of wheels around 80a.
I'm 6'4 and about 200lbs. I've never skated but I really want to get into longboarding. What board trucks wheels etc would you recommend? I'm really just interested in cruising to school and around town. I'd to keep it fairly affordable around $150 or under if possible.
Look for a longer, wider, and thicker deck, this will be nice and easy to learn how to skate on. I recommend you check out the Santa Cruz 40 in. drop through. Hope this helps!
I got sector nine 70mm and 70a wheels what would they be best for?
I also got sector nine 69mm and 80a wheels what would these be best for?
thanks dude but what would you recommend?
Hello Nick, I was wondering, If I want to freeride, carve, bomb hills, slide and what not, I wanted to know if a pair of orangatangs would be fine or if i should look into another set?
Thank you in advance
I am pretty new to longboarding but I have the 83a stims, the purple ones, and they slide really nicely. Plus, they also work well with carving because they grip nicely when your not sliding. Its hard to explain, but they are nice wheels and yes they are good for sliding.