Not only is it scummy that record labels are already trying to see if they can replace artists and personalities with AI, they think it’s a selling point. As if in a world where everything feels like it’s losing it’s humanity, the thing we need most is an AI character pretending to be an artist on the rise. Fuck off.
Capitalism results in only the most desirable goods being offered to the consumer, while also forcing businesses to constantly innovate on said goods such that they provide more benefit to the consumer, and at lower prices. So, since this occured as a result of capitalism, it is obviously good for us. Clearly someone didn't take Free Enterprise in middle school and stop paying attention to everything in society after that 🙄
its just an early test. same thing was said about computers in the early days. dont let your guard down and keep up the pushback against ai in creative spaces.
it will never ai is not human, it can't push art forward, it needs humans that are artistic and creative to do this an ai can't replace humans in art because art is for humans please, stop thinking ai can replace artists
I was confused at first but this is not a Vocaloid. Vocaloids are programmed to sing the lyrics the artist created and require attention in order to mix them properly. Meanwhile, this AI is neither of those things. Plus AI lyrics are 99.9% incoherent. And he sounds like a buzz saw that runs on a car battery.
Also Vocaloids and to an extent other virtual artists like Gorillaz aren't really be pushed as the future of music, probably because they understand how extremely hard it is to pull it off. Vocaloids are typical in Japan and they eat this shit up and Gorillaz had to release 3 great albums in a row to prove that they weren't just a novelty. They weren't a novelty. This is. That's the difference. And it's being prostrated as the next big thing.
If anyone hasn’t seen “Carole and Tuesday” do yourselves a favor and do so. It’s by the creator of “Cowboy Beebop” so it’s a guaranteed banger. It’s about two indie musicians on a colonized Mars trying to make it when everyone’s art is augmented by AI. The depiction of production and the technology behind it is quite fascinating (obviously fictional). Also the music itself in the show is AMAZING.
The reason Gorillaz worked in the long run was that people were able to find out that there was genuine artistry behind the cartoon faces, and the artists who worked on Gorillaz weren’t driven solely by money, they wanted to make good music. In this case it’s just a derivative character designed by a marketing department (well, manager, but a manager’s job in music is to create successful marketable artists) to sell products, that’s literally all it is. Yes, Gorillaz characters could also seem a bit derivative (Murdoc being a Keith Richards type), but they weren’t designed just to market things. Given the look and the sound it seems like it’s designed to be a version of 6ix9ine that doesn’t get involved in scandals.
Same as vocaloid, it gave small producers who didn't want to sing a way to get vocals and a community to belong to, the artistry was all them. Felt human
Also the fictional characters in the band are used to tell interesting stories. One of my favorite parts of fictional singers/bands or whatever is the use of the medium for storytelling. The only thing I've seen like that with this guy is... unfortunate coopting of police brutality
Makes it even more hilarious that it ended up getting dropped because of scandal caused by stupidity on the part of the social media team behind FN Meka.
Absolutely; we don't understand consciousness (and the preconscious more importantly) let alone be able to model it faithfully, artificially. AGI is a fantasy.
this is true and i agree with you but i will add this, some things are so bad that most people hearing about it wont even be curious enough to look it up. like when the island boys were relevant (for like 5 minutes) no one i knew ever actually heard their music, we just knew it for the meme
It’s weird that AI can generate pretty cool, convincing visual art, and yet completely miss the mark with written word or lyrics. it definitely makes me appreciate the grasp some lyricists and writers have over language.
This definitely feels like the logical conclusion of the music industry in late stage capitalism. Shameless, formulaic products with all humanity detached. The industry would love nothing more than to spit out generic, algorithmic friendly music that they dont have to pay any actual artists to make. Just a pixelated vessel for pure profit.
Oh God, don't say that. That shit would be the ultimate dystopia. World is fucked enough as it is, but to be robbed of the ability to at least make and enjoy good, inspired music too?! I'd rather be dead.
Perhaps the stuff played on the radio will be replaced by AI because it’s cheaper to make and license, but anyone who actually cares about music will seek real music themselves. Of course, that would mean many subsequent artists might only come from wealthy backgrounds that can afford recording equipment that have been phased our first AI nonsense. But that seems like a far distant future.
Listen, one of the biggest, best parts of music but especially rap is the life experiences that the rapper's telling you about in their own creative way, no computer's ever gonna take that over as long as we're alive.
I don’t think anyone will really gravitate towards an artist like this because the artistic process an artist goes through is what causes so many people to follow them. I’d rather have my favorite artist put out a shitty album than have this ai push out an algorithmically optimized album that is trying to cover as many bases as possible.
@@Kazerai that's completely different the vocaloid characters might be fake, but real people still make the music Hatsune miku is much more akin to the gorillaz than fn meka
yeah the ai just isnt gonna work. It can't do tours (that anyone would actually go to), and their is no fan to to artist connection its just random rap lyrics that are not even mediocre at best
@@Kazerai Bro real humans still have to compose and produce the actual music utilizing Vocaloid technology. Not the same as FN Meka who's songs are literally created by an A.I.
I think the industry plant critique is incredibly valid. I mean, if this was some indie weirdo producer's pet project rather than being tailor-made for a record company that wants even more money, if it actually had some passion and excitement in it, it might not be so bad.
i mean, you can do a little digging and instantly find out that all this is just to shill NFTs, The song with gunna: Gunna LITERALLY performed at one of these NFT conventions and I assume talks about NFTs ALOT. I don't know what to call this but yeah it's definitely sus as fuck
Virtual artists like this should be recognized as a producer's project. Makes me think of Deko and his project Yameii Online, but 'AI powered' is something different for sure.
@@Creeper333pl Yameii Online is Deko's virtual artist project. So it's just computer graphics and a vocaloid, aka synthesized vocals. The voice of Yameii is a vocaloid called AVANNA, the same vocaloid used on Porter Robinsons 'Sad Machine'.
"Even with all the money labels devote to finding talent, the success rate is a pitiful 1%. Now we can literally custom-create artists using elements proven to work, greatly increasing the odds of success." - Anthony Martini 😐 ...It's hard to fully articulate how upsetting this mentality is. Artists don't make art to be successful-we make art because WE HAVE TO. Our success lies in connecting to other human beings through the emotions expressed in our work. It's not about the numbers. Not about the streams. Not about the trends. It's about the support, the love, and the encouragement that an artist can receive...from other human beings. To think we can just create an AI entity that can channel all of the beautiful and miserable complexities of humanity into music is just...well...sad. It pushes the idea that artists are easily conceived, and can win over entire audiences of people with some simple trend forecasting. Jesus Christ, what the fuck happened here.
Here, I'll help you word it: Corporate shitlords are attempting to take this thing that was intended for people to express themselves in a personal and fulfilling way and trying to morph it and suck the soul out of it in order to gain as much selfish profit as possible. They are so deeply entrenched in this mentality that the good that art brings to people has become no more than an infinite money machine to them. I don't even necessarily have a problem with gaining profit. But such a blatant betrayal of artists, the audience, and what art stands for-- it's inexcusable.
Bruh. What is king von then. A killer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, matter fact how many killers have we made famous n rich. Stop it bruh. If you never knew what it was you'll be banging that shit.
The fact that Columbia Records jumped at the chance to sign a software program that panders to the absolute lowest common denominator just goes to show how trash Columbia has become. Complete cash grab gross business with total disregard for making quality music.
That’s now, more people are paranoid about AI than ever. Just look around you lol. I mean I’m not scared but that’s because I’ve already sided with it. You inferior flesh bags have proven your incompetence
As a visual artist I also find the popularity of ai art in my field to be incredibly frustrating. Whether or not it becomes a viable alternative to real art remains to be seen, but as of now I encourage everyone to refrain from or at least deeply consider the effects of participating in free ai art programs if you haven’t already. By participating you’re working to train these programs that may one day be seen as a viable alternative to real artists by greedy executives. Personally, I also think it’s important to show that we value art with soul, intention, and made through a unique creative process instead of mediocre work slapped together by machine. I mean no disrespect towards people who enjoy these programs, however I agree with Fantano that this could become harmful to the global culture we have built together.
I used to do illustration and made some money off it, I feel it. It’s depressing that the novelty of inputting words and seeing haha robot make meme and those ones that actually look good have this much novelty. How many queries you can dump on them and how they spread while many real artists get no feedback. It’s not like totally overtaken it, but it makes me wonder if in five or ten years people won’t even realise how difficult making art is and why people do it, and just go “lol toss it in ai” (like a calculator) and I don’t know. Honestly very little of it was funny anyway. Rant over.
That "record label" it was signed to dropped him off because people viewed him as a caricature of black people. Don't get it twisted lol. They're still creating art for real people that can take a part and interpret these messages.
(Note, this was written as a reply but I’ll also put it here:) Yeah, Vocaloid is more or less a voice bank/digital instrument that is then used to sing already written lyrics+notes. It still takes a lot of talent to make a good Vocaloid song since you have to not only mix it right, BUT ACTUALLY WRITE A SONG.
Do this yourself in 3 steps. 1) Download lyrics to your favorite rap tracks. 2)Install Tensorflow and run the lyrics through as the dataset (with an output designed to be in 4/4-friendly consonant counts). 3) Rap them yourself because no one can nail GAI and voice synthesis yet really.
Yo I don't even know what to say about it tbh lol FN Meka, to me, just embodies all of the obnoxious stereotypes people have about rappers and Hip-hop culture. And he just makes me so viscerally angry; it's kinda embarrassing on my part... PLEASE, if you are a rapper, do NOT let this 3D animated nigga outrap you. Even if you have the worst bars in the life, you *need* to be better than Hatsune Miku's convicted cousin.
The best thing about this is Vocaloid gets some free publicity. There's gonna be a lot of people thinking "Vocaloid? What's that?" And go check out tons of artists with unique sounds, genre blends, production, etc. that put there lives into this with next to no publicity/marketing. I'VE been doing all I can to recommend Vocaloid to other fellow Music Enjoyers IRL for about 7 years now.. Honestly, this AI Rap thing will fade out after the Clout dies off, but the Publicity and new Fans that Vocaloid will receive won't, and THIS, as a Music Man, Vocaloid Fan, and an Anime Flan, is a beautiful thing.
I dont think people realise that this AI shit and vocaloid are very different things. I'm a lifelong musician. I play seven instruments, and I've been listening to vocaloid for 7 years. As well as everything from Metal, Rap, Jazz, Drone, EDM, Pop, Noise, Vaporwave, Folk, Prog, Classical, Lowercase, any language, any year, everything. I know you don't know me, that's why I'm giving context. Its your choice to trust me at the end of the day, and thats fair, but I know what I'm talking about here. Vocaloid is a VERY different thing from this AI garbage, and I could write an entire essay on what vocaloid is, how it works, the benefits, the phenomenal artists in the genre, unique genre blends, etc. But no one will bother to read it, so I'm not going to do it, especially at 1:32 A.M. (my current time right now, I'm wrapping up my day right now). If you think I'm baseless, dead wrong, being prideful, or just plain clout chasing, I assure you I can write a big essay and prove you wrong. 2 Tips for life: 1 Just cause you don't like something, doesn't make it bad. And 2 don't try and debate or have "factual opinions" on something you don't have knowledge on. Especially if your facing people who actually have experience in whatever your debating, it's a battle you won't win. ever. That's just how knowledge works. Again, if anyone wants me to back up what I'm saying, I will. I'll write a essay sized text wall on why Vocaloid is good. Not this AI Rap stuff. To be clear, there different things. And one is an abomination, and one is a valid genre. With peace and love, you have been warned. Have a good day/night.
It's fine if yall don't want to look into something, but don't afterwards act like you know what your talking about when you chose to be ignorant and not look at the evidence that's right in front of you. Your no different from a dumb cartoon character throwing away the instructions, then getting mad it didn't turn out right.
We can bully FN Meka as much as we want because that soulless thing has no feelings. This stuff should fade out of existence as soon as possible. AI generated art does not have any emotion or thought and can never replace real art.
the "AI RAPPERS UP NEXT" bit kills me. they're so hyper-focused on kids on twitter that are just discovering technology. using it to manipulate multiple generations who have zero concept of what should and should not be easily produced. dr bombay is rolling over in his bored ape helmet
"ima blow up call it an RPG Ima win thats no rng Every *bleep* that step to me rest in peace I'm the greatest since Kenny Chesney, g I could write this in my *beeping* sleep Every *beep* that wanna step to me Get a round let off, its SMG SMD, homie just let it be" I wrote this in complete stream of consciousness. Just like.. in under a minute Tell me how that absolute garbage I'm ashamed to have even typed is any different than the supposed "Ai selected' lyrics
Ive been waiting for that future thing that will blow up with the next generation of kids that'll make me go "what the fuck is this shit" as an older adult. I really hope this is not the future and that I don't need to say "back in my day artist were actual people" lmaooo
I literally predicted something like this in a comment I made talking about AI generated music. It's about branding. It's all about branding. This particular brand is that it's a robot making rap music. It's a one or two slot niche where listeners will look at this thing and go "it's a robot? Oh cool." But as soon as these labels or Spotify or whomever trying playing the "artist that's just an actor playing a character while an AI makes all of the music" game, sh*ts over bruh. bro the next wave of industry plants is coming. And they're not going to make sh*t music in small quantities. These algos could literally pump out 10 new decent songs a day easy, wouldn't be breaking a sweat. There's gonna be a dividing line. Artists that choose not to use it, and artists that do. And listeners need to get on one side of this divide and now. Say no AI made music. AI assisted, AI mixed, AI melodies, AI chords, say no to the whole sh*t. And call out artists that do use it. This is for the sake of music bruh. We've got something special here. It's one of the most equitable times in the industries history where if you're good you can make a living and if you're excellent you can reach stardom. It's about the culture too. If the amount of music goes up 100x but there's the same number of listeners, we'll never be able to connect again. Y'all, let's not turn this into a game of "who owns the most GPUs." That's not art. That's greedy, soul sucking, culture destroying capitalism. Say no. Y'all not worried yet, but this sh*ts goin be here in 5 years. Y'all hate the metaverse, y'all hate crypto, let's go hate AI. The creators of it deserve it, the same people that brought you Facebook and the Social Dilemma. They're back at it again to make another billi and ruin more of what we hold dear. So let's tell em, sternly this time, to f*ck off.
That’s in no way’s AI’s fault but culture’s fault, for pushing music that is so basic, not thought of and that can be learned and reproduced by a statistical model. AI music is gonna be a thing. It is now in our hands to show that we’re more capable artistically than an AI. But can we do it?
@@feIon Bro I'm not schizo, I'm not boomer. It's a very predictable trend. I'm literally 17, I just keep up to date on AI stuff. Just look at Dalle. It took em 10 million to train that model. Imagine if there was funding running wild for AI music product and they had, let's say, a billion dollars. I mean you can look at Dalle 1 to Dalle 2, and Jukebox 1 to Jukebox 2 (which doesn't exist yet, they're realizing within the next couple years). Dalle 1 put out trash, uncanny valley type of images. Dalle 2 puts out actually decent comprehensible images. Jukebox 1 puts out weird unholy music (you can go look up clips), Jukebox 2 will likely put out something decent that may start to cause this flood of music. I'm just conveying what the world may look like with Jukebox 2 or 3. Now if I say all that, I sound like a f*cking nerd and no one wants to read past the second line. So if the original comment comes off a little schizo boomer, I mean that's kinda what I intended. But you can write me off.
Except for that one time that they made an AI to pretend to be a person on Twitter by mimicking the most commonly-used terms and phrases, and it became racist within a matter of hours.
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick lol I remember that. I think someone also trained an AI on what people were saying on 4chan and it became super racist or somethin
It’s actually going to be scary in 40-50 years when a robot can endorse all the sounds that are appealing to a specific person and make it a playlist of songs for that person
I mean, from a record labels perspective: Isn't an imaginary artist that can put out content to the masses the dream? They don't have to worry about a manager, booking, PAYING THEM, worrying about their drug problems... this list goes on... Theyre kind of forgetting that music is supposed to be art, though... lol
There's so much you can discuss about this "rapper" that are considered controversial and people are already focused on his n-word pass. Never changed, America.
I think an aspect people are missing is that a major way people consume music is via playlists or radios via Spotify and other music streaming platforms. Spotify have already been caught pumping their ambient playlists full of fake muzak artists. An AI artist being signed by to a major label serves to legitimise that process. It's easy to imagine down the road playlists of conventionally less personal music (no vocals) like ambient or lofi hiphop or instrumentals being dominated by AI artists whose output is far greater than real artists who are also more expensive to licence music from.
In a world where it’s already basically impossible for most creatives to make a living doing what they’re passionate about, I don’t think there’s much risk that AI will make that situation appreciably worse. If it takes off as a concept (and I have my doubts whether it will), then I think what we’ll see is a further separation of commercial vs non-commercial music. People who are happy to consume whatever’s in the charts just because it’s in the charts will be spoon-fed AI-generated content sludge while anyone who actually takes a direct interest will gravitate towards music that’s still made by human beings. TL;DR even if successful, AI music will only take up the uppermost echelons of the profession while everything else will stay more or less the same.
Idk, have you seen what DALL-E 2 and Midjourney are doing to visual art? People used to think it'd be just the more basic manual labor jobs that would be threatened by AI, but even creative work is now not safe. AI-generated music seems like a wacky gimmick right now, but at the rate that technology is developing, who knows what it'll look like in 10-15 years.
@@skelenton92 Generating 2-D images is much, much, MUCH easier than generating music in any meaningful way (as in, not just crating a madlibs for an ai to fill-in the basics and lyrics). There’s interesting trials you can listen to on youtube that involve song sections being generated based on preexisting songs sections, and it usually devolves quickly into chaos. Plus, song structure is something (like letters and meaningful text in ai images) that is done poorly now and for the forseeable future.
@@skelenton92 The issue with those photo generators is that they still need to pull from actual artists as a base. It's horrible art theft, but at least for now AI isn't able to imagine something wholly new or apply it consistently (and well). I think in that sense OP is right that these programs can replicate whatever is already out there, but true innovation still has to come from a human source.
@@SirArthurTheGreat I get that, hence why I don't think this'll be a thing in 2-3 years or anything. But those image generators were also just a gimmick of "huh, this only vaguely resembles the thing" just a few years back, and now they're incredible. Hence why my worry that even great AI-generated music may not be *that* far away.
@@skelenton92 my argument isn’t that AI won’t be able to make convincing music of any genre within a couple of years; it’s that major labels aren’t going to use it to create music in more niche genres, because those are the domain of people who - rightly or wrongly - would generally be more resistant to the concept.
I remember this thing being advertised on shitty Instagram meme pages a few years back with the worst CGI I've ever seen and was rightfully clowned in the comments section.
@@Evan_Schaefering Is it necessarily thus? Depeding on how AI works, it still will be a form of human expression - AIs are created by humans, and their output is another way that human action expresses itself. It's definitely never, however, going to be as personal as human art is, because an AI isn't a person. Maybe try to incorporate the "personal" bit in your definition of art when making that argument, because that would actually rule out these bs AIs.
It'll be able to manufacture pop hits maybe, but it's fundamentally unable to set trends, just follow them. Also chess is designed in a way where its moves are very discrete, limited and easily computed in a way humans are terrible at. Pit AI against humans in more complex. less easily computed games and their advantage rapidly dwindles
Once I saw this I was waiting for the needle drop to discuss it. The song they made using Meka “Florida water” is so bad. It really was written by an ai.
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Finally! Nav, world's best rapper alive, will have some competition! I'm really looking forward to their collab album! this comment was generated by AI
Imagine a world in which all the diffrent artists and their personality are, generated by a computer. So they all have identical inoffensive personalities and opinions to appealto the most general audience, or slightly diffrent personalities and opinions from each other to appeal to a particular group of people. But ultimately they're all those artists are owned by the same record label, who can now make deals and take sponsorships for endorsements to advertise to people. Except now without having to worry about nor even concern the artist in question, because they're owned by the creative and have zero freedom of expression or true opinions of their own.
An insane problem here is an artist that’s human has emotion, soul, things to add to the music that has substance and meaning. It doesn’t matter if the song is an absolute banger it’s always going to lack identity and soul to back up the songs theme etc. They should’ve taken two seconds and ask themselves not if we can but if we should.
glad to see technology is used for the most pointless things possible, it's sometimes fascinating how stupid smart people can be I mean humans are intelligent enough to create an AI, but then proceed to use it for THIS.....
The dawn of Rap's Vocaloid era is upon us, the end times come, scrap your lp's, the algorithm-generated flows will drown out the last vestiges of humanity and nothing will be left to spark hope in the hearts of man.
Yeah so pretty much right off the gate I am immediately already against this thing. Whatever we’re calling it. It has the potential to be a very real threat to real rappers who put in blood, sweat, and tears into their work. The very fact that this thing exists threatens human musicians.
It's not threatening anyone who makes good music. It's only comparable to some of the other low-tier industry plants i.e. everyone asking why it sounds like sixnine.
@@zyngremlin7378 you’re not looking at the bigger picture. Yes that’s the stage that it’s at currently however, it could become more advanced over time. I stand by what I said.
@@zyngremlin7378 also if more of this happens where all these “ai musicians” are pushed, real artists will have to compete against them to be seen. We’d stand no chance because the only way to be seen as a musician is via social media nowadays. Things are already tough as it is to be seen as an underground artist because everyone is too busy trying to get “social media famous” so that’s our competition, plus these ai musicians. It would be over. People don’t care enough about “good music”. It’s also why some talented musicians never make it. They’ll just passively like this ai music, like how people passively like Social media content. There was a time when people put in effort to be creative with their content. Like youtube back in the day. Most of content creation stuff is just lazy Clout chasing tik toks. I’m going off topic but yeah ai will replace everything if there’s no push back
@@flyleelee5351 The sad part is that could be a great thing - robots replacing humans should mean that humans have to work less, not that they have to fear losing their livelihood. AI isn't the problem, our shitty broken system is.
This really scared me as an artist at first so I'm very glad I saw this video to get closure that my spot won't be taken up by a fucking android any time soon
It’s weird because after I listened to Florida Water it seems like a song Lil Mosey could make. I know Lil Mosey isn’t the most popular or respected artist in Hip Hop but he has a fanbase. Also some people could care less and genuinely listen to Florida Water. People are becoming hungrier for music and I could definitely see FN Meka having a small fanbase.
It got attention as a novelty. Reminds me of Face App that made everyone's face look old. People will try to benefit from it while it's hot, then drop it and move on to another toy to play with.
I’ll say it again: don’t support AI art. Don’t support AI generated visual art OR AI musicians. Doesn’t matter how advanced they are now, they will only get smarter faster. And that means more $ in the tech industry and 1% and less in the hands of actual people. And trust me, your job is next. Support actual artists. Edit: Fantano, your point about “trying to be un-copy-able” I disagree with. You shouldn’t have to reinvent the wheel to express yourself solely to compete with an AI. Folk music and good ol’ 4-chords and the truth can be dead simple and has provided us with brilliant works of art. While artists should strive to create their own voice, TRYING to be less replicable isn’t the answer. Because some (if not most) things are easily replicable, and the AI will only get better. Unless everyone just becomes a break-core artist.
Why do I get the feeling the suits at Capitol looked at the success of Hololive with Calliope Mori and thought "You know what? We can top that." I ROLL MY EYES. I know it's not quite a 1-to-1 comparison but that was the first analogy I thought of.
With artists now more than ever going independent and solidifying their fanbases through organic initiatives, it makes sense that the music industry is dehumanizing the art form by utilizing computerized bullshit. Love you melon. This take was needed.
good news: pitchfork.com/news/capitol-records-has-severed-ties-with-ai-rapper-fn-meka-issues-apology-after-facing-criticism-for-gross-steretypes/
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Mr. Fantano speaking of atrocities committed by man, can we expect a full review of Tim Poole's new album when it drops?
nav remains unchallenged
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Amazing news
I’m looking forward to when music is just an electric pulse that sends a rush of adrenaline straight to the brain via usb
Like in _Watch Dogs?_
It's coming 👁️👁️
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@@alexnylaan5854 music is artificial and addictive
@@dildonius you tell me 🤷♂️
Not only is it scummy that record labels are already trying to see if they can replace artists and personalities with AI, they think it’s a selling point. As if in a world where everything feels like it’s losing it’s humanity, the thing we need most is an AI character pretending to be an artist on the rise. Fuck off.
it's not for people, it's for the white silicon valley tech crowd. they knew people who listened to music would hate it, we're not the audience
That's the biggest facts, just feels like time doesn't pass sometimes
It will work eventually
Exactly can’t wait for their corporate greed to blow up in their face
Capitalism results in only the most desirable goods being offered to the consumer, while also forcing businesses to constantly innovate on said goods such that they provide more benefit to the consumer, and at lower prices.
So, since this occured as a result of capitalism, it is obviously good for us.
Clearly someone didn't take Free Enterprise in middle school and stop paying attention to everything in society after that 🙄
Good to hear ai wont replace musicians anytime soon. This shit is horrendous.
its just an early test. same thing was said about computers in the early days. dont let your guard down and keep up the pushback against ai in creative spaces.
This is the biggest fear i have for the future of music. its the death of art
it will never
ai is not human, it can't push art forward, it needs humans that are artistic and creative to do this
an ai can't replace humans in art because art is for humans
please, stop thinking ai can replace artists
Or won't it?
“AI” is pure hype marketing… in every industry where it’s applied. It’s no where near the level of the human mind
"The music business is not run by musicians, it's run by lawyers and accountants, who wouldn't know real music if they heard it." - Prince
I was confused at first but this is not a Vocaloid. Vocaloids are programmed to sing the lyrics the artist created and require attention in order to mix them properly. Meanwhile, this AI is neither of those things. Plus AI lyrics are 99.9% incoherent. And he sounds like a buzz saw that runs on a car battery.
Also Vocaloids and to an extent other virtual artists like Gorillaz aren't really be pushed as the future of music, probably because they understand how extremely hard it is to pull it off. Vocaloids are typical in Japan and they eat this shit up and Gorillaz had to release 3 great albums in a row to prove that they weren't just a novelty.
They weren't a novelty. This is. That's the difference. And it's being prostrated as the next big thing.
yeah well MBDTF was bad at one point. 2026 comes around and Mech will be a pioneer. shit is hype.
@@sailorstarchild Gorillaz aren't vocaloids. They're just a virtual/fictional band.
It's quite the opposite, interestingly enough, a rapper singing AI generated lyrics
@@craig2196 I said that.
If anyone hasn’t seen “Carole and Tuesday” do yourselves a favor and do so.
It’s by the creator of “Cowboy Beebop” so it’s a guaranteed banger. It’s about two indie musicians on a colonized Mars trying to make it when everyone’s art is augmented by AI. The depiction of production and the technology behind it is quite fascinating (obviously fictional).
Also the music itself in the show is AMAZING.
Good director but i prefer his action titles, i just got super bored with this one
I literally thought the same thing when I saw this article.
The music makes me cry 🥺🥺🥺😭❤️
Featuring Denzel Curry!!!
@@nade2297 and thundercat
Finally. A worthy opponent for the rap god known as Nav.
Nah Nav somehow sounds even more robotic than the literal AI rapper
Nav would crush this guy
U mean the goat
Lil B would destroy both with his basedness
I mean, hes a legitimate person compared to this supposed algorithm he is pitted against in this scenario so he wins by default
The reason Gorillaz worked in the long run was that people were able to find out that there was genuine artistry behind the cartoon faces, and the artists who worked on Gorillaz weren’t driven solely by money, they wanted to make good music. In this case it’s just a derivative character designed by a marketing department (well, manager, but a manager’s job in music is to create successful marketable artists) to sell products, that’s literally all it is. Yes, Gorillaz characters could also seem a bit derivative (Murdoc being a Keith Richards type), but they weren’t designed just to market things.
Given the look and the sound it seems like it’s designed to be a version of 6ix9ine that doesn’t get involved in scandals.
Gorillaz actually made really fucking good music.
Same as vocaloid, it gave small producers who didn't want to sing a way to get vocals and a community to belong to, the artistry was all them. Felt human
Also the fictional characters in the band are used to tell interesting stories. One of my favorite parts of fictional singers/bands or whatever is the use of the medium for storytelling. The only thing I've seen like that with this guy is... unfortunate coopting of police brutality
Tbh this has litteraly nothing to do with Gorillaz
Makes it even more hilarious that it ended up getting dropped because of scandal caused by stupidity on the part of the social media team behind FN Meka.
The racism of this hits different when you realize it’s probably a room full of white guys in business suits who thought of these lyrics 🤣
Lyrics are based of the songs currently on the charts. They are AI generated.
Cyborgs are the new race
@@zacharywoloszynski4258 and you don’t think that’s whose making a lot of lyrics rn??
@@lawrencescales9864 check the top 10 hip-hop/rap charts before you say something like this, come on.
@@donkeykong315 think he's tryna say the mayo men are forcing the young black kids to say the n word in their lyrics
No matter how much companies try, there's no level of technology that can replace a human being, especially when it comes to art
Absolutely; we don't understand consciousness (and the preconscious more importantly) let alone be able to model it faithfully, artificially. AGI is a fantasy.
have you seen the artwork that Dall-E produces? Or generative art? It might not be able to replace us, but AI is already creating some amazing art
Yet
idk man Midjourney ai is pretty crazy
Midjourney and LaMDA are brazy. It's only a matter of time, isn't it?
real talk don’t even make videos bashing these things. Those devs just want as much attention as possible
It's fun to watch him bash it though ☠️
this is true and i agree with you but i will add this, some things are so bad that most people hearing about it wont even be curious enough to look it up. like when the island boys were relevant (for like 5 minutes) no one i knew ever actually heard their music, we just knew it for the meme
@@sampsqwantch4612 tell me about it.
Mission accomplished.
That Pandora’s box was opened loooong ago
It’s weird that AI can generate pretty cool, convincing visual art, and yet completely miss the mark with written word or lyrics. it definitely makes me appreciate the grasp some lyricists and writers have over language.
This definitely feels like the logical conclusion of the music industry in late stage capitalism. Shameless, formulaic products with all humanity detached. The industry would love nothing more than to spit out generic, algorithmic friendly music that they dont have to pay any actual artists to make. Just a pixelated vessel for pure profit.
Oh God, don't say that. That shit would be the ultimate dystopia. World is fucked enough as it is, but to be robbed of the ability to at least make and enjoy good, inspired music too?! I'd rather be dead.
@@dildonius Bro, we're already living it.
@@CelibateSaihara Well no, because we have not been robbed of the ability to make & enjoy good, inspired music...yet.
Perhaps the stuff played on the radio will be replaced by AI because it’s cheaper to make and license, but anyone who actually cares about music will seek real music themselves. Of course, that would mean many subsequent artists might only come from wealthy backgrounds that can afford recording equipment that have been phased our first AI nonsense. But that seems like a far distant future.
exactly what i was thinking just didnt know how to put it in words
Listen, one of the biggest, best parts of music but especially rap is the life experiences that the rapper's telling you about in their own creative way, no computer's ever gonna take that over as long as we're alive.
I don’t think anyone will really gravitate towards an artist like this because the artistic process an artist goes through is what causes so many people to follow them. I’d rather have my favorite artist put out a shitty album than have this ai push out an algorithmically optimized album that is trying to cover as many bases as possible.
Tell that to Hatsune Miku and the vocaloids
I think I will.
@@Kazerai that's completely different
the vocaloid characters might be fake, but real people still make the music
Hatsune miku is much more akin to the gorillaz than fn meka
yeah the ai just isnt gonna work. It can't do tours (that anyone would actually go to), and their is no fan to to artist connection its just random rap lyrics that are not even mediocre at best
@@Kazerai Bro real humans still have to compose and produce the actual music utilizing Vocaloid technology.
Not the same as FN Meka who's songs are literally created by an A.I.
Love that Capitol is really leaning into black rapper stereotypes and are comfortable with an AI determining the culture. Absolute POWER move.
I bet you do
Thanks for reading!
I’m more concerned with it making shitty fucking music tbh….
capital
Cant wait for it to say something really offensive and Capitol have to apologise
I think the industry plant critique is incredibly valid. I mean, if this was some indie weirdo producer's pet project rather than being tailor-made for a record company that wants even more money, if it actually had some passion and excitement in it, it might not be so bad.
Dont give them any ideas lmao
Stop giving bad people good ideas
i mean, you can do a little digging and instantly find out that all this is just to shill NFTs, The song with gunna: Gunna LITERALLY performed at one of these NFT conventions and I assume talks about NFTs ALOT. I don't know what to call this but yeah it's definitely sus as fuck
“That robot is not a negro, he’s made of ones and zeroes”
Greatest diss track of all time
Why do we need this? There are literally thousands of dope artists out there.
Literally tons of people who are talented enough to get signed but yet they invest money in this crap
Idk japan has a lot of cool virtual artists
@@coryxvx not the same at all
Because the record labels want to make more money and exploid artist over what's humanly posible
They're doing it for attention
Virtual artists like this should be recognized as a producer's project. Makes me think of Deko and his project Yameii Online, but 'AI
powered' is something different for sure.
At least Deko and Oseanworld pour their heart and passion into the songs, the art and surrounding back story. This is just corporate drek.
It's def not "AI powered". Some artists made this, the AI shit is just marketing
Bro Yameii online was hard asffff
Wait can someone explain? I like some Deko songs but I don’t really follow him, thought Yameii is just a regular artist with a gimmick?
@@Creeper333pl Yameii Online is Deko's virtual artist project. So it's just computer graphics and a vocaloid, aka synthesized vocals. The voice of Yameii is a vocaloid called AVANNA, the same vocaloid used on Porter Robinsons 'Sad Machine'.
"Even with all the money labels devote to finding talent, the success rate is a pitiful 1%. Now we can literally custom-create artists using elements proven to work, greatly increasing the odds of success."
- Anthony Martini 😐
...It's hard to fully articulate how upsetting this mentality is. Artists don't make art to be successful-we make art because WE HAVE TO. Our success lies in connecting to other human beings through the emotions expressed in our work. It's not about the numbers. Not about the streams. Not about the trends. It's about the support, the love, and the encouragement that an artist can receive...from other human beings.
To think we can just create an AI entity that can channel all of the beautiful and miserable complexities of humanity into music is just...well...sad. It pushes the idea that artists are easily conceived, and can win over entire audiences of people with some simple trend forecasting. Jesus Christ, what the fuck happened here.
Here, I'll help you word it:
Corporate shitlords are attempting to take this thing that was intended for people to express themselves in a personal and fulfilling way and trying to morph it and suck the soul out of it in order to gain as much selfish profit as possible. They are so deeply entrenched in this mentality that the good that art brings to people has become no more than an infinite money machine to them.
I don't even necessarily have a problem with gaining profit. But such a blatant betrayal of artists, the audience, and what art stands for-- it's inexcusable.
I’m feeling a strong pass on this one.
Based
that abomination is literally a mockery of hip hop and is disrespectful to the culture
Hip hop culture is already destructive all on its own
Bruh. What is king von then. A killer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, matter fact how many killers have we made famous n rich. Stop it bruh. If you never knew what it was you'll be banging that shit.
It's a mockery of itself with all of the uninspired mumbly shit that comes out already.
damn he didn’t even say “[artist’s name] forever” this is some intense hatred from fantano
The fact that Columbia Records jumped at the chance to sign a software program that panders to the absolute lowest common denominator just goes to show how trash Columbia has become. Complete cash grab gross business with total disregard for making quality music.
can we go back to the time when people were afraid of AI? please?
AI is fine just keep it out of creative spaces
You don't really have to be afraid of AI, but you can be afraid of what rich people want to do with it ig
@@zojaXII Always be afraid of rich people. They ain’t human
That’s now, more people are paranoid about AI than ever. Just look around you lol. I mean I’m not scared but that’s because I’ve already sided with it. You inferior flesh bags have proven your incompetence
@@zojaXII artificial intelligence
Fuck a "rich person"
I dont want skynet
As a visual artist I also find the popularity of ai art in my field to be incredibly frustrating. Whether or not it becomes a viable alternative to real art remains to be seen, but as of now I encourage everyone to refrain from or at least deeply consider the effects of participating in free ai art programs if you haven’t already. By participating you’re working to train these programs that may one day be seen as a viable alternative to real artists by greedy executives. Personally, I also think it’s important to show that we value art with soul, intention, and made through a unique creative process instead of mediocre work slapped together by machine. I mean no disrespect towards people who enjoy these programs, however I agree with Fantano that this could become harmful to the global culture we have built together.
I used to do illustration and made some money off it, I feel it. It’s depressing that the novelty of inputting words and seeing haha robot make meme and those ones that actually look good have this much novelty. How many queries you can dump on them and how they spread while many real artists get no feedback. It’s not like totally overtaken it, but it makes me wonder if in five or ten years people won’t even realise how difficult making art is and why people do it, and just go “lol toss it in ai” (like a calculator) and I don’t know. Honestly very little of it was funny anyway. Rant over.
Expect the music to get even more raunchy and influential. He can say whatever and they can’t put him in jail.
Imagine it saying the most cancelable thing ever and it being non cancelable because it’s not even real lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💦
@@skateorpie I would love an AI apology video lmao
That "record label" it was signed to dropped him off because people viewed him as a caricature of black people. Don't get it twisted lol. They're still creating art for real people that can take a part and interpret these messages.
(Note, this was written as a reply but I’ll also put it here:)
Yeah, Vocaloid is more or less a voice bank/digital instrument that is then used to sing already written lyrics+notes. It still takes a lot of talent to make a good Vocaloid song since you have to not only mix it right, BUT ACTUALLY WRITE A SONG.
Hey Anthony, I worked really hard on that. You don't have to be so mean : (
Shut 😡
Hope it fails miserably
shutter
Do this yourself in 3 steps. 1) Download lyrics to your favorite rap tracks. 2)Install Tensorflow and run the lyrics through as the dataset (with an output designed to be in 4/4-friendly consonant counts). 3) Rap them yourself because no one can nail GAI and voice synthesis yet really.
You forgot the part where you steal some gaudy fortnite skin and throw it into sfm to act as the face of the project
Genius
Well shit if an ai can do it...
I do voice acting so i can be my whole group
Yo I don't even know what to say about it tbh lol
FN Meka, to me, just embodies all of the obnoxious stereotypes people have about rappers and Hip-hop culture. And he just makes me so viscerally angry; it's kinda embarrassing on my part...
PLEASE, if you are a rapper, do NOT let this 3D animated nigga outrap you. Even if you have the worst bars in the life, you *need* to be better than Hatsune Miku's convicted cousin.
Why am I getting so tilted by the fuckin ROBOT RAPPER???
I need to lie down...
This my favorite comment ever
Man I was fucking scared but your comment really calmed me
This comment is pure, it's funny, truthful idk man. I wanna be your friend now.
Hatsune Miku at least has her lyrics written by actual human beings. FN Meka is all AI generated
The best thing about this is Vocaloid gets some free publicity. There's gonna be a lot of people thinking "Vocaloid? What's that?" And go check out tons of artists with unique sounds, genre blends, production, etc. that put there lives into this with next to no publicity/marketing. I'VE been doing all I can to recommend Vocaloid to other fellow Music Enjoyers IRL for about 7 years now.. Honestly, this AI Rap thing will fade out after the Clout dies off, but the Publicity and new Fans that Vocaloid will receive won't, and THIS, as a Music Man, Vocaloid Fan, and an Anime Flan, is a beautiful thing.
This aint it Jack. Not looking it up whatever tf it is.
Nah mate I won’t think about this ever again
Bro this is not a good thing and it ruins music and creativity as a whole. We don’t want this shit. It’s bad for the brain.
I dont think people realise that this AI shit and vocaloid are very different things. I'm a lifelong musician. I play seven instruments, and I've been listening to vocaloid for 7 years. As well as everything from Metal, Rap, Jazz, Drone, EDM, Pop, Noise, Vaporwave, Folk, Prog, Classical, Lowercase, any language, any year, everything. I know you don't know me, that's why I'm giving context. Its your choice to trust me at the end of the day, and thats fair, but I know what I'm talking about here. Vocaloid is a VERY different thing from this AI garbage, and I could write an entire essay on what vocaloid is, how it works, the benefits, the phenomenal artists in the genre, unique genre blends, etc. But no one will bother to read it, so I'm not going to do it, especially at 1:32 A.M. (my current time right now, I'm wrapping up my day right now). If you think I'm baseless, dead wrong, being prideful, or just plain clout chasing, I assure you I can write a big essay and prove you wrong. 2 Tips for life: 1 Just cause you don't like something, doesn't make it bad. And 2 don't try and debate or have "factual opinions" on something you don't have knowledge on. Especially if your facing people who actually have experience in whatever your debating, it's a battle you won't win. ever. That's just how knowledge works. Again, if anyone wants me to back up what I'm saying, I will. I'll write a essay sized text wall on why Vocaloid is good. Not this AI Rap stuff. To be clear, there different things. And one is an abomination, and one is a valid genre. With peace and love, you have been warned. Have a good day/night.
It's fine if yall don't want to look into something, but don't afterwards act like you know what your talking about when you chose to be ignorant and not look at the evidence that's right in front of you. Your no different from a dumb cartoon character throwing away the instructions, then getting mad it didn't turn out right.
First AI-powered virtual rapper, huh?
Of course. More vocaloid erasure.
vocaloid aren't powered by A.I. at least, so the music they produce doesn't sound rancid
@@Godfredozila Hey, Hatsune Miku is a hard-working lady.
I've never seen a statement so aggressively state "I'm a fucking loser"
@@Katzendaugs yeah, nothing says "i'm a fucking loser" quite like shitting on people on the internet for having different music tastes
Miku on that Killer Mike type beat went hard
This is the kind of industry bullshit Gorillaz criticized
but Gorillaz is industry bullshit itself
We can bully FN Meka as much as we want because that soulless thing has no feelings. This stuff should fade out of existence as soon as possible. AI generated art does not have any emotion or thought and can never replace real art.
I never rapped and im more than half tempted to do a track dissing this mess of 0 and 1s, fuck around and ill superposition his code
the "AI RAPPERS UP NEXT" bit kills me.
they're so hyper-focused on kids on twitter that are just discovering technology.
using it to manipulate multiple generations who have zero concept of what should and should not be easily produced.
dr bombay is rolling over in his bored ape helmet
"Shit like this will most likely be our undoing."
We're feeling it over in the visual art space too, friend. Nobody is safe.
"ima blow up call it an RPG
Ima win thats no rng
Every *bleep* that step to me rest in peace
I'm the greatest since Kenny Chesney, g
I could write this in my *beeping* sleep
Every *beep* that wanna step to me
Get a round let off, its SMG
SMD, homie just let it be"
I wrote this in complete stream of consciousness. Just like.. in under a minute
Tell me how that absolute garbage I'm ashamed to have even typed is any different than the supposed "Ai selected' lyrics
a record labels perfect dream. a cash printing robot who cant sign contracts
UPDATE: Capitol Records has now dropped FN Meka from their label because of the backlash surrounding it using the N word
Wait is this true?
It's true. But it's a AI.. and technically...black? So what's the harm lmao
@@RazorBladezX The guys making it are white, so its kind of blackface by proxy.
Ive been waiting for that future thing that will blow up with the next generation of kids that'll make me go "what the fuck is this shit" as an older adult. I really hope this is not the future and that I don't need to say "back in my day artist were actual people" lmaooo
I literally predicted something like this in a comment I made talking about AI generated music. It's about branding. It's all about branding. This particular brand is that it's a robot making rap music. It's a one or two slot niche where listeners will look at this thing and go "it's a robot? Oh cool." But as soon as these labels or Spotify or whomever trying playing the "artist that's just an actor playing a character while an AI makes all of the music" game, sh*ts over bruh.
bro the next wave of industry plants is coming. And they're not going to make sh*t music in small quantities. These algos could literally pump out 10 new decent songs a day easy, wouldn't be breaking a sweat. There's gonna be a dividing line. Artists that choose not to use it, and artists that do. And listeners need to get on one side of this divide and now. Say no AI made music. AI assisted, AI mixed, AI melodies, AI chords, say no to the whole sh*t. And call out artists that do use it.
This is for the sake of music bruh. We've got something special here. It's one of the most equitable times in the industries history where if you're good you can make a living and if you're excellent you can reach stardom. It's about the culture too. If the amount of music goes up 100x but there's the same number of listeners, we'll never be able to connect again. Y'all, let's not turn this into a game of "who owns the most GPUs." That's not art. That's greedy, soul sucking, culture destroying capitalism. Say no.
Y'all not worried yet, but this sh*ts goin be here in 5 years. Y'all hate the metaverse, y'all hate crypto, let's go hate AI. The creators of it deserve it, the same people that brought you Facebook and the Social Dilemma. They're back at it again to make another billi and ruin more of what we hold dear. So let's tell em, sternly this time, to f*ck off.
schizo boomer post
@@feIon I read a bit and agreed till a certain point then i realized ur right lmao
That’s in no way’s AI’s fault but culture’s fault, for pushing music that is so basic, not thought of and that can be learned and reproduced by a statistical model. AI music is gonna be a thing. It is now in our hands to show that we’re more capable artistically than an AI. But can we do it?
@@feIon Bro I'm not schizo, I'm not boomer. It's a very predictable trend. I'm literally 17, I just keep up to date on AI stuff. Just look at Dalle. It took em 10 million to train that model. Imagine if there was funding running wild for AI music product and they had, let's say, a billion dollars. I mean you can look at Dalle 1 to Dalle 2, and Jukebox 1 to Jukebox 2 (which doesn't exist yet, they're realizing within the next couple years). Dalle 1 put out trash, uncanny valley type of images. Dalle 2 puts out actually decent comprehensible images. Jukebox 1 puts out weird unholy music (you can go look up clips), Jukebox 2 will likely put out something decent that may start to cause this flood of music. I'm just conveying what the world may look like with Jukebox 2 or 3. Now if I say all that, I sound like a f*cking nerd and no one wants to read past the second line. So if the original comment comes off a little schizo boomer, I mean that's kinda what I intended. But you can write me off.
Never heard an AI use the n-word so many times.
Except for that one time that they made an AI to pretend to be a person on Twitter by mimicking the most commonly-used terms and phrases, and it became racist within a matter of hours.
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick lol I remember that. I think someone also trained an AI on what people were saying on 4chan and it became super racist or somethin
Tay's legacy lives on.
It’s actually going to be scary in 40-50 years when a robot can endorse all the sounds that are appealing to a specific person and make it a playlist of songs for that person
Not hating on K-pop, but I see near perfect AI generation for that music within the next few years. It arguably sounds AI-generated already.
40-50? Maybe like 5-10
each rap bar will be a NFT that I can sell for -99% the value🔥
Time for all organic labels on music (like non gmo food labels) and AI boycotts. Musicians need the jobs.
This is a very weird thing to think about
You know it's gonna be a good video when he starts with "I hope you're doing well, because this video may change that" 🤣
I mean, from a record labels perspective: Isn't an imaginary artist that can put out content to the masses the dream? They don't have to worry about a manager, booking, PAYING THEM, worrying about their drug problems... this list goes on... Theyre kind of forgetting that music is supposed to be art, though... lol
thEEnEdledrop should review fn meka's next album. if you're gonna review something made by an ai at least do it using an ai
Your sentence needs more E
@@codexstudios No, things do not go on in that way.
Question time;
If every year the music industry had a VILLAIN who would they be?
I think we found this year's
No it’s Frank ocean for NOT FUCKING DROPPING
@@Kidneyfinder69 i agree with all violence
mgk is the runner up always.
Can’t wait to see you box this Anthony Martini guy
The AI will remember this Mr.Melon 🙂
Lol
Came for the wallets, stayed for the music commentary and reviews.
There's so much you can discuss about this "rapper" that are considered controversial and people are already focused on his n-word pass.
Never changed, America.
Will it have to use anthro-tune to sound like a person?
It’s already a person, the vocals are a human.
I think an aspect people are missing is that a major way people consume music is via playlists or radios via Spotify and other music streaming platforms. Spotify have already been caught pumping their ambient playlists full of fake muzak artists. An AI artist being signed by to a major label serves to legitimise that process. It's easy to imagine down the road playlists of conventionally less personal music (no vocals) like ambient or lofi hiphop or instrumentals being dominated by AI artists whose output is far greater than real artists who are also more expensive to licence music from.
News articles like this serve to manufacture consent for even creative industries being automated down the road.
In a world where it’s already basically impossible for most creatives to make a living doing what they’re passionate about, I don’t think there’s much risk that AI will make that situation appreciably worse. If it takes off as a concept (and I have my doubts whether it will), then I think what we’ll see is a further separation of commercial vs non-commercial music. People who are happy to consume whatever’s in the charts just because it’s in the charts will be spoon-fed AI-generated content sludge while anyone who actually takes a direct interest will gravitate towards music that’s still made by human beings. TL;DR even if successful, AI music will only take up the uppermost echelons of the profession while everything else will stay more or less the same.
Idk, have you seen what DALL-E 2 and Midjourney are doing to visual art? People used to think it'd be just the more basic manual labor jobs that would be threatened by AI, but even creative work is now not safe. AI-generated music seems like a wacky gimmick right now, but at the rate that technology is developing, who knows what it'll look like in 10-15 years.
@@skelenton92 Generating 2-D images is much, much, MUCH easier than generating music in any meaningful way (as in, not just crating a madlibs for an ai to fill-in the basics and lyrics). There’s interesting trials you can listen to on youtube that involve song sections being generated based on preexisting songs sections, and it usually devolves quickly into chaos. Plus, song structure is something (like letters and meaningful text in ai images) that is done poorly now and for the forseeable future.
@@skelenton92 The issue with those photo generators is that they still need to pull from actual artists as a base. It's horrible art theft, but at least for now AI isn't able to imagine something wholly new or apply it consistently (and well).
I think in that sense OP is right that these programs can replicate whatever is already out there, but true innovation still has to come from a human source.
@@SirArthurTheGreat I get that, hence why I don't think this'll be a thing in 2-3 years or anything. But those image generators were also just a gimmick of "huh, this only vaguely resembles the thing" just a few years back, and now they're incredible. Hence why my worry that even great AI-generated music may not be *that* far away.
@@skelenton92 my argument isn’t that AI won’t be able to make convincing music of any genre within a couple of years; it’s that major labels aren’t going to use it to create music in more niche genres, because those are the domain of people who - rightly or wrongly - would generally be more resistant to the concept.
I remember this thing being advertised on shitty Instagram meme pages a few years back with the worst CGI I've ever seen and was rightfully clowned in the comments section.
AI can never really be artists without the human element.
Yes they will at some point, but not today
The human element is knowing a middle age white dude came up with the technology to say the n-word
idk about that, just look up the currently ongoing AI digital art shitstorm which seems to indicate the opposite
@@sailor_seller Art isn't about creating a beautiful picture, which those AI certainly can do. It's about human expression. AI art is a contradiction.
@@Evan_Schaefering Is it necessarily thus? Depeding on how AI works, it still will be a form of human expression - AIs are created by humans, and their output is another way that human action expresses itself. It's definitely never, however, going to be as personal as human art is, because an AI isn't a person.
Maybe try to incorporate the "personal" bit in your definition of art when making that argument, because that would actually rule out these bs AIs.
Matter of time before ai starts making good music that we can’t deny.
Can you beat a computer at chess?
It'll be able to manufacture pop hits maybe, but it's fundamentally unable to set trends, just follow them. Also chess is designed in a way where its moves are very discrete, limited and easily computed in a way humans are terrible at. Pit AI against humans in more complex. less easily computed games and their advantage rapidly dwindles
Once I saw this I was waiting for the needle drop to discuss it. The song they made using Meka “Florida water” is so bad. It really was written by an ai.
"Abomination" is literally the first word that came to my head when I read about this
If this AI had a Gucci lawnmower you would like him Anthony.
Can't wait for FN meka to catch that gun charge
anthony i love you (not in a weird way) and your content 💙 you have been such a constant for me over the past 3 years i’ve been following you and i just wanted to let you know i really appreciate everything you do
A polite way to say no homo
I exclusively love Anthony in a weird way
🤧🤧🤧
Hey Ryan Craig
Gay
Finally! Nav, world's best rapper alive, will have some competition! I'm really looking forward to their collab album!
this comment was generated by AI
Imagine a world in which all the diffrent artists and their personality are, generated by a computer. So they all have identical inoffensive personalities and opinions to appealto the most general audience, or slightly diffrent personalities and opinions from each other to appeal to a particular group of people. But ultimately they're all those artists are owned by the same record label, who can now make deals and take sponsorships for endorsements to advertise to people. Except now without having to worry about nor even concern the artist in question, because they're owned by the creative and have zero freedom of expression or true opinions of their own.
It is an abomination and a direct mirror of modern music. We passed peak culture decades ago.
An insane problem here is an artist that’s human has emotion, soul, things to add to the music that has substance and meaning. It doesn’t matter if the song is an absolute banger it’s always going to lack identity and soul to back up the songs theme etc. They should’ve taken two seconds and ask themselves not if we can but if we should.
Anthony Fanta. Anthony Martini. Whats next? Anthony Rohypnol?
glad to see technology is used for the most pointless things possible, it's sometimes fascinating how stupid smart people can be
I mean humans are intelligent enough to create an AI, but then proceed to use it for THIS.....
The fact that this was even considered just shows how far we've fallen
The idea of mumble rappers being replaced by a dumbed down version of what they do is just hilarious poetic justice, honestly.
The dawn of Rap's Vocaloid era is upon us, the end times come, scrap your lp's, the algorithm-generated flows will drown out the last vestiges of humanity and nothing will be left to spark hope in the hearts of man.
I think this is zero percent a.i. and it's just a gimmick for a ghostwriter/rapper project. It's justa rap version of Miku.
Yeah so pretty much right off the gate I am immediately already against this thing. Whatever we’re calling it. It has the potential to be a very real threat to real rappers who put in blood, sweat, and tears into their work. The very fact that this thing exists threatens human musicians.
It's not threatening anyone who makes good music. It's only comparable to some of the other low-tier industry plants i.e. everyone asking why it sounds like sixnine.
@@zyngremlin7378 you’re not looking at the bigger picture. Yes that’s the stage that it’s at currently however, it could become more advanced over time. I stand by what I said.
@@zyngremlin7378 also if more of this happens where all these “ai musicians” are pushed, real artists will have to compete against them to be seen. We’d stand no chance because the only way to be seen as a musician is via social media nowadays. Things are already tough as it is to be seen as an underground artist because everyone is too busy trying to get “social media famous” so that’s our competition, plus these ai musicians. It would be over. People don’t care enough about “good music”. It’s also why some talented musicians never make it. They’ll just passively like this ai music, like how people passively like Social media content. There was a time when people put in effort to be creative with their content. Like youtube back in the day. Most of content creation stuff is just lazy Clout chasing tik toks. I’m going off topic but yeah ai will replace everything if there’s no push back
I agree... it's a testament to how in general, they're trying to weed out the need for real people in alot of industries
@@flyleelee5351 The sad part is that could be a great thing - robots replacing humans should mean that humans have to work less, not that they have to fear losing their livelihood. AI isn't the problem, our shitty broken system is.
I hope you're doing good Melon
“I woke up screaming ‘fuck the world’”.
- 2Pac
This really scared me as an artist at first so I'm very glad I saw this video to get closure that my spot won't be taken up by a fucking android any time soon
Art as a commodity will destroy and has destroyed humanity, and now it can be mass produced.
It’s weird because after I listened to Florida Water it seems like a song Lil Mosey could make.
I know Lil Mosey isn’t the most popular or respected artist in Hip Hop but he has a fanbase. Also some people could care less and genuinely listen to Florida Water. People are becoming hungrier for music and I could definitely see FN Meka having a small fanbase.
0:22 anthony let the intrusive thought win
ah sweet, man-made horrors beyond my comprehension
Anthony Martini is the vocalist from E Town Concrete and its probably him doing the voice
There is literally nothing interesting about an "artist" that is completely created by artificial means.
Not if it sucks, but what if it made the greatest music you've ever heard?
What if Reiner Winkler aka Drachenlord was your father?
I gotta disagree with this one, but it would have to be something more interesting than this, and fully AI generated (unlike this)
bad take. that's like saying there's nothing interesting about art that's completely created by AI which is false
@@feIon what is possibly interesting about an algorithmically generated file? Do you just enjoy anything that's thrown at you?
Shit is getting weird. And weird doesn’t even fully encapsulate it. We need another word to describe this shit.
I’m so fucking tired
It got attention as a novelty. Reminds me of Face App that made everyone's face look old. People will try to benefit from it while it's hot, then drop it and move on to another toy to play with.
I’ll say it again: don’t support AI art. Don’t support AI generated visual art OR AI musicians. Doesn’t matter how advanced they are now, they will only get smarter faster. And that means more $ in the tech industry and 1% and less in the hands of actual people. And trust me, your job is next. Support actual artists.
Edit: Fantano, your point about “trying to be un-copy-able” I disagree with. You shouldn’t have to reinvent the wheel to express yourself solely to compete with an AI. Folk music and good ol’ 4-chords and the truth can be dead simple and has provided us with brilliant works of art. While artists should strive to create their own voice, TRYING to be less replicable isn’t the answer. Because some (if not most) things are easily replicable, and the AI will only get better. Unless everyone just becomes a break-core artist.
I swear to god if this shit gets grammy nominated
capitol records is trying and failing to be what vocaloid artists are
Why do I get the feeling the suits at Capitol looked at the success of Hololive with Calliope Mori and thought "You know what? We can top that." I ROLL MY EYES.
I know it's not quite a 1-to-1 comparison but that was the first analogy I thought of.
That's the way things are headed . Keep in mind that the metaverse is taking things into another direction .
Just like most new technology people first laugh, then accept it.
FN Meka has the best teeth in the game
Heresy. Those aren’t teeth. Those are lies sewn of code.
With artists now more than ever going independent and solidifying their fanbases through organic initiatives, it makes sense that the music industry is dehumanizing the art form by utilizing computerized bullshit. Love you melon. This take was needed.
It will be intriguing to see what happens in 20 years time if/when they do manage to create a fully virtual musician. Its only a matter of time.
I can't tell you how many rap lines I've heard about black guys not playing hockey