Why does SUPERMAN look like that?

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025

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  • @sad_michael
    @sad_michael Месяц назад +1496

    I've never actually heard a good explanation for why everything recent looks so evenly lit and shallowly staged before. But shooting for coverage and deciding everything is post makes a lot of sense.

    • @isaiahskates6587
      @isaiahskates6587 Месяц назад +11

      It doesn’t look evenly lit to me it just looks good

    • @indigo4740
      @indigo4740 Месяц назад +40

      It's either evenly lit or overly shadowed. Man of steel looks overly shadowed and saturation downed a bit and this looks evenly lit and colors pop a bit.

    • @mananagnihotri
      @mananagnihotri Месяц назад +29

      What happens is due to coverage they end up using multiple cameras. Which means you cannot tweak lighting for a close up because you might have a camera in a two shot and two over the shoulders.
      A good DOP would tweak lighting a bit for close ups to light the eyes beautifully (in the context of the film).
      Now it’s just drab and boring. Lighting and composition is what makes a frame beautiful. Another disadvantage is that with multiple cameras your angles get restricted because cameras can tend to be in each others fields of view.
      So single camera is the best.

    • @amazin7006
      @amazin7006 Месяц назад +4

      @@isaiahskates6587 Hes talking about other shows and movies, not superman

    • @DastanZhumagulov
      @DastanZhumagulov Месяц назад +8

      There's a recent quote from Gladiator II cinematographer John Mathieson, where he essentially confirmed that it's gotten really hard to light sets with intent and depth when you have so many different angles shooting simultaneously for coverage.

  • @gilleojax
    @gilleojax Месяц назад +1128

    It looks like a comic book ... I'm all for that

    • @crvlad
      @crvlad Месяц назад +35

      No, it looks like Shazam 2... Look how Batman looks and compare it to this. This looks like a cheap student movie.

    • @Wavebrahz
      @Wavebrahz Месяц назад +11

      @@crvladprove it looks like Shazam 2

    • @yowatchie
      @yowatchie Месяц назад +44

      @@crvlad "student movie"
      say you don’t know shit about film without saying it I guess.

    • @TonyDracon
      @TonyDracon Месяц назад +1

      it looks like man of steel

    • @TheRobinWithWit
      @TheRobinWithWit Месяц назад +11

      ​@@crvlad if your talking about "The Batman" itd not at all a comparable movie. Both are trying to achieve diffrent effects.

  • @EllieEspi
    @EllieEspi Месяц назад +3192

    This is how metropolis is supposed to like a sunny beautiful chaotic city

  • @Christian_H3rnand3z
    @Christian_H3rnand3z Месяц назад +372

    Wait, people are complaining for it being so colorful???? It's a Superman movie, *it has to be colorful!!!!!!* I just can't with the Snyder fans, the DCEU is dead y'all. *Look up, the DCU has arrived and it's great.*

    • @cruzinthruspace
      @cruzinthruspace Месяц назад +36

      Those are the people that are dragging humanity down.
      If they complain about small things like this in movies imagine how their lives are.

    • @FirstnameLastname-my7bz
      @FirstnameLastname-my7bz Месяц назад +4

      No, people who actually donate to charities don't drag humanity down because they "dared" to criticize your slop.

    • @FrozenJedi38
      @FrozenJedi38 Месяц назад +19

      The first thing I noted and liked about the trailer were vibrant colors. But of course there's people who think it looks too "cartoony" (like if it's not a frickin comic book adaptation 🤦‍♀️)

    • @Mr.MReturns
      @Mr.MReturns Месяц назад +8

      ​​​@@cruzinthruspace It's just a movie, it's not serious, relax bruh. People are allowed to critique color grading. A Superman movie shouldn't be color graded like The Suicide Squad was, something along the lines of X-Men First Class or Transformers Age of Extinction would've been a much better approach.

    • @Samanosuke1138
      @Samanosuke1138 Месяц назад +13

      You immediately go for the Snyder fans when the main ones complaining are the ones who got snyder booted in the first place and chose not to show up for any of the colorful DC films after, including James Gunn's The Suicide Squad. This isn't on "Snyder fans at all." Sorry. You don't get to scapegoat them this time.

  • @joshisasjoshdoes8760
    @joshisasjoshdoes8760 Месяц назад +2273

    My theory is people have gotten so used to the gray scale of mcu movies and other movies that have copied them for the last 10 years that the moment they see actual color in a movie their brains explode

    • @3n3j0t4
      @3n3j0t4 Месяц назад +87

      Great way to dismiss the critique towards the movie by making a nonsensical comment about the MCU 🤣

    • @megatronsroyalemissary382
      @megatronsroyalemissary382 Месяц назад +293

      @@3n3j0t4 He said it was a theory…and by your emotional response he’s definitely on to something.

    • @hiphipjorge5755
      @hiphipjorge5755 Месяц назад +58

      I'd hardly say that MCU movies are gray scale, they're kind of all over the place in terms of their tone and color gradients

    • @3n3j0t4
      @3n3j0t4 Месяц назад +41

      @@megatronsroyalemissary382 he’s objectively wrong though? As shitty as most of the MCU is, most of its movies are not grayscale and even look better than this CW slopfest

    • @KOBAYE_24
      @KOBAYE_24 Месяц назад

      ​​@@3n3j0t4MCU movies ARE grayscale. Look at Civil War, Infinity War or Cap 2, etc. They all look gray.

  • @HermanFalckHow
    @HermanFalckHow Месяц назад +26

    It looks great. People just want to complain without understanding what they are talking about. It's the same people who thought Barbie looked bad.

  • @Comicbroe405
    @Comicbroe405 Месяц назад +2438

    I think it looks great & it's clear that Gunn is keeping his style really similar to how Gotg 3 & The Suicide Squad were shot. I think ppl need to chill.

    • @martymarl4602
      @martymarl4602 Месяц назад +145

      I've watched scores of reviews and this is the first one that said "it's clear that many people don't like it"..those are butt hurt snyder bros. Reviewers have been crying tears of joy over this teaser

    • @Comicbroe405
      @Comicbroe405 Месяц назад +9

      @@martymarl4602 Uh.. I don't follow. Are you sure you wanted to reply to my comment?

    • @martymarl4602
      @martymarl4602 Месяц назад +25

      @@Comicbroe405 I agree with your comment. I was just referring to the narrator

    • @bofawhatsbofa4593
      @bofawhatsbofa4593 Месяц назад +19

      @@martymarl4602nerdorotic, critical drinker, out spoken Snyder haters, were unimpressed. But to you, they are “snyderbros”🥴

    • @e.d.5766
      @e.d.5766 Месяц назад +51

      ​@@bofawhatsbofa4593 I don't know if Critical Drinker is a "Snyder Bro" but I definitely would not value his opinion on pretty much anything. I've never seen him give a review on anything that wasn't just blatantly misunderstanding the film/show and whining over nothing.

  • @creese16
    @creese16 Месяц назад +71

    Superman is supposed to be bright, colorful, and vibrant. This films seems to be aiming for that which is great. It will be really interesting to see what’s done with Batman The Brave and the Bold and how that contrasts with Superman 2024 and Matt Reeves’ The Batman. Man of Steel was dark and gritty, Snyder’s Batman was also dark and gritty. So there was like 0 contrast between those two characters, and while I actually really like parts of Batman v Superman, I am way more excited to see this new World’s Finest onscreen together in this iteration!

    • @omega2087
      @omega2087 Месяц назад +2

      Most of the colors shown is orange/teal

  • @samkaranja5709
    @samkaranja5709 Месяц назад +483

    What i like about it is the high contrast lighting that really helps the colors pop. So many things released today have such flat lighting, this has very intention lighting

    • @LarryHazard
      @LarryHazard Месяц назад +6

      The colours don't pop because there are no blacks. Increasing contrast doesn't really make colours pop especially if the shadows are all blue

    • @v0ldy54
      @v0ldy54 Месяц назад +8

      The colors don't pop because of contrast in this trailer, they pop because they just cranked the saturation (of yellows especially) to 100.
      You can have movies that look colorful without this cheap ugly look, just look at the first Ironman which was still shot on film.

    • @andytrevino4077
      @andytrevino4077 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@v0ldy54Exactly. High contrast ≠ A great picture.

  • @rayo146-x8x
    @rayo146-x8x Месяц назад +12

    personally I do feel that the color balance is leaning too much on the blue, but I adjusted my screen's color temperature to "movie mode" and it actually evened out the color balance and helped the reds pop out much more

  • @slackstarfish8133
    @slackstarfish8133 Месяц назад +1482

    Why are people acting like they’ve never seen a James Gunn movie. Literally everybody loves the guardians movies. He has a very signature visual style

    • @GurksTheGamer
      @GurksTheGamer Месяц назад +127

      Snyder fanboys

    • @ProudINC109
      @ProudINC109 Месяц назад +90

      Those people who are a member of Snyder cult

    • @amacho1320
      @amacho1320 Месяц назад +48

      ​@@GurksTheGamerjames Gunn fanboys assume everyone loved those movies lol

    • @20maximilian03
      @20maximilian03 Месяц назад +109

      ⁠@@amacho1320What are you on about? The Guardians of the Galaxy movies have all made over 700mil worldwide, maybe not literally every person ever loves them but they aren't widely disliked by any means

    • @20maximilian03
      @20maximilian03 Месяц назад +36

      Not to mention all three of them out-grossed Man of Steel

  • @gregelgie
    @gregelgie Месяц назад +272

    I’m glad it’s a brighter film. We’ve had too many dark superhero films lately and I always think of Superman in a positive and uplifting manner compared to something like Batman. I hope this gets DC back on track.

    • @B.Davis1
      @B.Davis1 Месяц назад +2

      Looks like The Flash movie.

    • @MeggaMann_theBlueLion
      @MeggaMann_theBlueLion Месяц назад

      Dark is not bad

    • @aires425
      @aires425 Месяц назад +6

      It is if it's for the wrong character. ​@@MeggaMann_theBlueLion

    • @MeggaMann_theBlueLion
      @MeggaMann_theBlueLion Месяц назад

      @@aires425 that’s a matter of opinion as someone who owns the comics. And unless you do then this convo is dead

    • @aires425
      @aires425 Месяц назад +2

      @@MeggaMann_theBlueLion I own tons, some even date back from the 50s and 60s. And it's not a matter of opinion, sure some characters CAN have darker or mature stories, but that shouldn't be all the time for the character.

  • @ygitor
    @ygitor Месяц назад +75

    Why is no one talking about Nathan Fillion with a comic accurate bowl cut

    • @bielll_4
      @bielll_4 Месяц назад +29

      It's supposed to looks stupid, like the comics ​@smellybreeze

    • @AceFotinos
      @AceFotinos Месяц назад +8

      Comic accurate or not. Sometimes animated hairstyles don't translate in the real world.
      I agree with smelly. Seeing his hair just takes me out of the moment. Too funky looking to take him seriously.

    • @bielll_4
      @bielll_4 Месяц назад +12

      Even though certain animated hairstyles might seem funky, that doesn’t mean they should be dismissed in live-action adaptations. These visual elements are part of the character’s essence and help make them stand out, remaining true to their comic book origins. Adapting a character for live-action doesn’t mean making them "normal" or generic but rather bringing their authenticity to the audience. If the hairstyle is part of what defines the character in the comics, it should be kept, even if it’s slightly stylized to look more natural in a realistic context.

    • @omegastyles1531
      @omegastyles1531 Месяц назад

      Guy gardner😂

    • @alejosg22
      @alejosg22 Месяц назад +1

      @@bielll_4 he used to look like that in the 80´s not anymore... he has a different hairstyle, more like a militar fade combined with a not so exagerated bowl cut...}

  • @omenka
    @omenka Месяц назад +565

    That's exactly what I expected from James Gunn. Since Superman stands for optimism and so on, the look makes perfect sense. The perfect counterpoint to Zack Snyder's dark interpretation.
    And it was kind of a foregone conclusion that the film would be so colourful. James Gunn has found his style since THE SUICIDE SQUAD and has continued to perfect it. The Kaijū you see in the trailer is also very James Gunn. He has my full trust.

    • @BabaV2000
      @BabaV2000 Месяц назад +11

      The man Who shot Guardian of Galaxy 1 and 2 the best in Visuals now choose Over polished Color 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
      His The Suicide Squad also Sucks

    • @Ivan-xk4uy
      @Ivan-xk4uy Месяц назад +37

      @@BabaV2000if you didn’t like it that’s cool 👍🏾

    • @msid7748
      @msid7748 Месяц назад +49

      @@BabaV2000 Snyderbot detected

    • @masked2746
      @masked2746 Месяц назад +15

      @@BabaV2000 jack snyder is not going to return. its time you accept it

    • @fugaziishime
      @fugaziishime Месяц назад +19

      ​@@BabaV2000 have you never picked up a super man comic or know what colours superman wears? It's literally blue and red. They are naturally bright reflective colours😂

  • @adam_franklin
    @adam_franklin 4 дня назад +1

    It will look so damn good in IMAX like being on a ride.

  • @eksmaan
    @eksmaan Месяц назад +132

    I get an old school vibe on this. I love the blur they've used to show his speed/movement. This is an interesting looking movie based on the trailer. I am in.

  • @naheemquattlebaum2267
    @naheemquattlebaum2267 Месяц назад +101

    People don't realize how much Marvel and Snyder "trained" them on how a big budget movie should look. I'm glad Gunn is showing us otherwise.

    • @beastmaster6943
      @beastmaster6943 Месяц назад +3

      I'm so mad that Gunn didn't care away all the colors on this trailer
      Why didn't he snap that little girls neck?
      Why isn't he destroying everything around him?
      We want a Snyder cut of this movie

    • @rebel_diamonds
      @rebel_diamonds Месяц назад +6

      Snyder and Marvel have little in common visually. His movies might be dark, but they don't look cheap and done by comitee.

    • @Chadcat180
      @Chadcat180 Месяц назад +2

      Marvel looks flat while snyder looks lifeless

    • @Spadooch
      @Spadooch Месяц назад

      Marvel looks *real*, not flat. This is what people who don't turly understand color grading don't realize.

    • @kevanselm1281
      @kevanselm1281 10 дней назад +1

      @@Spadoochit does look flat, they light evenly for post production instead of growing balls and actually making the movie look good while shooting

  • @fascinateandilluminate
    @fascinateandilluminate Месяц назад +368

    I love how clean it is. In my opinion, it is way better than marvels nano tech suits that they have.

    • @pz47
      @pz47 Месяц назад +29

      I don't know how you're comparing a nano tech suit with a movie visual. It doesn't make any sense and also don't forget ironman 1,2&3 suit up scenes and they did it way back in 2008.

    • @fascinateandilluminate
      @fascinateandilluminate Месяц назад +3

      @pz47 You are talking about the visual am talking about their costumes.

    • @pz47
      @pz47 Месяц назад +16

      @@fascinateandilluminate You didn't mention costumes anywhere in your comment. How am I supposed to know? You said clean I thought you're talking about visuals. No way you're thinking that a full grown man wearing an underwear outside his pants is looking more clean than marvel's nano tech. Whatever man you and your taste.

    • @straycat2550
      @straycat2550 Месяц назад +9

      @@pz47 Personally i think nanotech ruined Marvel´s suits. All the nanotech suits look futuristic and and overdesigned, and maybe that looks good on ironman, but when lots of superheros in the same movie wears them it becomes boring, because you dont have much variation either in the concepts. It´s like all of them have this angular design and each movie they have more lines . We have the entire ant-man family, black panther, war machine, spiderman, iron man, now falcon also has it. It reflects more on the helmets, because its like they dont exist now, the y just add them in post and so the actors dont act with them, and then ends up feeling weird in the movie. I saw that a lot in Antman quantumania. In this movie the suits are also kind of overdesign, but i like that they look like actual real suits that break and get dirty and fold when superman moves and not armors or futuristic tech. idk maybe im just overthinking it.

    • @pz47
      @pz47 Месяц назад +6

      @@straycat2550 If you're comparing DC suits with marvel suits. No one can argue DC did it better. I understand your point nano tech suit made the entire suit design lazy but u have to consider the story plot also. Without nano suit ironman could have never fought thanos. But I don't see anything original or new in the superman suit. It's comic accurate I get it but comparing nano tech with this suit doesn't make sense.

  • @jasonzx1858
    @jasonzx1858 Месяц назад +7

    Only Snyder fans didn’t like this new Superman look. They just want the movie to be edgy 🤣

    • @TheParagonIsDead
      @TheParagonIsDead 21 день назад +1

      I like James Gunn but I don’t like the cinematography in this one

  • @marcusf7710
    @marcusf7710 Месяц назад +100

    It looks pretty similar to the color in The Suicide Squad. I just wish there was more of a golden hour look to metropolis.

    • @UltraBrian
      @UltraBrian Месяц назад +13

      It is showing the golden hour look to Metropolis dude, re-watch the trailer dude.

    • @DaWhisper
      @DaWhisper Месяц назад +5

      Watch the teaser to the teaser trailer, it has a shot that just might be what your looking for.

    • @SteveLaw-UK
      @SteveLaw-UK Месяц назад

      This isn't the whole film...

    • @luxurybuzz3681
      @luxurybuzz3681 Месяц назад

      Both have same cinematographer

    • @sh98631
      @sh98631 Месяц назад

      I think I'm the only one who thinks that the color grading looks very similar to The Boys color grading

  • @XaviKun
    @XaviKun Месяц назад +12

    If I had to describe why I think the look feels off to me , between the contrast and the highlights it gives the impression they're rendered it in the wrong color space, or they just crushed it in post far too hard
    Still super excited to see this movie, it just looks very poorly balanced to my eyes (not that I'm a professional or anything)
    Looking forward for the vistavision video!

  • @nathanbasset
    @nathanbasset Месяц назад +65

    2:40 hollywood discovers the zoom lens

    • @42crazyguy
      @42crazyguy Месяц назад

      Not quite the same

    • @TunaIRL
      @TunaIRL 26 дней назад +2

      More akin to a variable prime lens.

  • @LoneEditor
    @LoneEditor Месяц назад +5

    Modern film is like that mid 2000’s gaming era where every thing was orange and brown

  • @kurtispeak
    @kurtispeak Месяц назад +85

    It's bright and bold. I'm embracing it after the full teaser trailer we just got today. Valid points you made with the flat look that's taken over Hollywood.

    • @Grand_Edict
      @Grand_Edict Месяц назад +2

      It’s not my preferred but I’ll be okay with the campy colours on the condition they don’t have the insufferable “humour” that killed Thor Love and Thunder

  • @techarts8938
    @techarts8938 Месяц назад +23

    It's simple. Superman is supposed to be a symbol of hope and is a hero. How do you feel when there's a hero? You feel like the world is a better, brighter place, not dark and continuously filled with superheroes fighting amongst themselves like BvS or Black Adam or JL (briefly).i hope this movie completely embraces the vibrance and simplicity it showed in the trailer, cuz not all superhero movies have to be a big fan service to a cinematic universe

  • @ArgoFowl
    @ArgoFowl Месяц назад +137

    that trailer gives me major goosebumpies

    • @crvlad
      @crvlad Месяц назад +5

      Why? It looks cheap AF - just like the first trailer for Shazam 2...

    • @MK11YOGI
      @MK11YOGI Месяц назад +3

      Yeah true bro it looks like low budget worst acting movie​@@crvlad

    • @michaelcroucher2195
      @michaelcroucher2195 Месяц назад +1

      Me too! I loved it

    • @Jack_Nastee
      @Jack_Nastee Месяц назад +6

      ​​@@crvlad youre trying too hard bro. No one cares that you think it looks like shazam 2.
      Also maybe the reason is because theyre both meant to be colorful? Both more lighthearted, caring superheroes whos comics also tend to be vibrant and campy.

    • @milkman-30
      @milkman-30 Месяц назад +2

      @@crvladWhat looks cheap about it exactly? Or are you just saying that cause you dont actually know and just want to shit on it.

  • @gagelindell271
    @gagelindell271 Месяц назад +40

    the amount of nit picking going on about this trailer is so insufferable
    people complaining about the most bizarre stuff

    • @Nah_Id_Win19
      @Nah_Id_Win19 Месяц назад +3

      They're crybaby don't worry about them

    • @aamarrahman8631
      @aamarrahman8631 Месяц назад +1

      or may its just ... BAD ....

    • @gagelindell271
      @gagelindell271 Месяц назад

      @ nah

    • @eskanda3434
      @eskanda3434 Месяц назад +1

      @@gagelindell271 now you know what Snyder fans have been dealing with? 😂 why doesnt superman have red diapers on? why doesnt superman smile more? why doesnt he say up up and away! how does it feel now?

  • @samuel.labrador
    @samuel.labrador Месяц назад +88

    I was so glad the color grading and framing have PERSONALITY. I agree with everything you said

    • @MILOPETIT
      @MILOPETIT Месяц назад +5

      I mean it's colorful but I don't get why it's so blue, which gives kind of a cold feel to it. Maybe it's because Superman is blue

    • @Lidoe
      @Lidoe Месяц назад +4

      @@MILOPETITI think the idea is that it mimics that vintage comic book look

    • @TheRobinWithWit
      @TheRobinWithWit Месяц назад

      ​@@MILOPETITmaybe it has somthing to do with Krypton being a crystal planet? Like it looked kinda icy? Idk that's just a theory.

    • @MILOPETIT
      @MILOPETIT Месяц назад +1

      @TheRobinWithWit Well I'm pretty sure the film takes place on earth

    • @rcbmmines4579
      @rcbmmines4579 15 дней назад

      Looking back, some shots look really blue like others said, but others have more red-orange. Compare that shot of Lex with the gun to the first shot of Lex and the Luthorcorp building, compare Superman in the snow and the Fortress, and even the fight with the Kaiju/monster and the mob, to him as Clark with Jonathan, inside the Daily Planet, kissing Lois and later flying with her as Superman. It all seems to be a deliberate narrative choice.

  • @ussie
    @ussie 9 дней назад +1

    I too was struck by the cinematography, it looked so distinct from the DCEU-MCU house styles that have been developing. To me this looks-and I mean this as a complement-like a Norman Rockwell painting that is animated by AI, which in a way is a brilliant aesthetic for a fresh adaption of the original source material.

  • @isaiahvoss
    @isaiahvoss Месяц назад +82

    I'm more excited for The Fantastic Four: First Steps and Tron Ares this coming year but I thought this trailer for SUPERMAN was good. It feels like James Gunn's Guardians Of The Galaxy trilogy but in a DC lense. It's different as I've read it's supposed to be a Donner type film, referring to SUPERMAN (1978) according to James Gunn. This doesn't need to be dark with this SUPERMAN like Zack Snyder did or the campy 2000s Smallville show. I like how this feels like the comics or the animated DC movies we've gotten.

    • @Comicbroe405
      @Comicbroe405 Месяц назад +8

      I feel like FF will be a good contender to this film. Both seem to have a similar spirit.

    • @yderga8707
      @yderga8707 Месяц назад +5

      I'm not holding my breath with marvel lately, I love F4 but I've been burned by them in the past.
      Gunn has always delivered at least an entertaining movie imho.

    • @isaiahvoss
      @isaiahvoss Месяц назад +2

      ​@@yderga8707I don't think the 2005-2007 F4 was that bad imo but the 2015 I was burned by. We'll see if this iteration of the F4 delivers! I was entertained too by James Gunn's GOTG trilogy!

    • @yderga8707
      @yderga8707 Месяц назад +1

      @@isaiahvoss I'm a big fan of the 2000s F4 movies. Sure they weren't at the same level as modern day comic films, but they had such an inexplicable charm to them.
      I loved Chris Evans as Johnny storm and the silver surfer was awesome.
      Its really just the new age marvel stuff that I dont trust anymore. But it looks like they're putting good effort into the artistic style and casting.

    • @yowatchie
      @yowatchie Месяц назад +2

      @@yderga8707 They’re way better than a lot of people tend to give it credit for. The main 4 were also perfectly cast, even Jessica Alba to a degree. I’m cautiously excited for First Steps but Pedro Pascal feels and looks nothing like Reed compared to Ion Gruffudd (especially with that weird mustache they seem to be going for). I like Pascal but his casting screams popular actor more so than the right choice and look unlike what Superman has done casting wise. Like especially if you look at the other potential castings that were being considered beforehand.
      I dunno, I still really liked the 2000s F4 movies despite their very 2000s-ness because they felt like the F4 especially with the Silver Surfer. But still I’m hopeful to be proven wrong about First Steps.

  • @Breonnick
    @Breonnick Месяц назад +5

    My problem is the color pallete. All the blues are fighting against the bright and vabrant look it's going for. I just dont think Metropolis should look 32 degrees in july. The over exposed highlights dont help either.

    • @soham.banerjee
      @soham.banerjee 25 дней назад

      Spot on, but I think the general audience doesn't feel those blues for some reason and are getting the vibrant feel either way (probably a relative comparison to other movies being released today), whereas people with a better understanding of colour are a bit... Shaken.

  • @DavisShawErrantPictures
    @DavisShawErrantPictures Месяц назад +128

    Why does Superman look exactly like Superman?

    • @yderga8707
      @yderga8707 Месяц назад +14

      Disney forking over money to "totally real" accounts spamming garbage on everything related to this film
      "Why no orchestral version of 80s pop song, 10 million jokes and angsty disgruntled female protagonist?"

    • @Myself_here
      @Myself_here Месяц назад +4

      Why does this Superman look like a cosplay Superman?

    • @_sayandas
      @_sayandas Месяц назад +11

      ​@@Myself_hereBecause cosplays are comic accurate, Cavill wasn't

    • @SteveLaw-UK
      @SteveLaw-UK Месяц назад +7

      @@Myself_here canonically his mom made his suit.

    • @Myself_here
      @Myself_here Месяц назад

      @@SteveLaw-UK
      If his mom didn’t make that trash suit then their’s no excuses

  • @64-96
    @64-96 Месяц назад +8

    The best way I can describe how good I think it actually looks, is that it looks more like Superman than Superman has looked since the original movies, and not just because of the costume design.

    • @beastmaster6943
      @beastmaster6943 Месяц назад

      It sets a nice tone
      I would love to see Henry Cwvill as the Justice Lords of Ultraman or Injustice League

    • @milkman-30
      @milkman-30 Месяц назад

      I love that shot of Clark and Lois kissing in the air, it feels like something out of the 78 film and gives such a sense of whimsy and romanticism to me.

  • @charliemalick8985
    @charliemalick8985 Месяц назад +33

    I love the Guardians trilogy because of how zany and colorful they are when compared to other MCU features, so I'm glad Gunn is carrying that element to the DCU.

  • @thabreez456
    @thabreez456 Месяц назад +21

    I’m just kinda weirded out by that weird blue filter that Gunn’s DC movies seem to have. It kinda looks like one of those “cinematic LUTS” that you apply in your first year of film school.
    It kinda looks like the MoS color grading but without the desaturation.

    • @louisbogli1804
      @louisbogli1804 29 дней назад

      YES ! I couldn’t put words onto what was bugging me with this cinematography, but you just did!

  • @LuvinLife72395
    @LuvinLife72395 Месяц назад +36

    Everyone ive seen dislike the grading has remarked on it looking like an afterthought with too much teal/orange and not enough vibrancy throughout the scenes.
    Everyone ive seen who likes it thinks its a reaction to overly dramatic cold and dark sets and sees it as classic comic book aesthetic.
    Personally I don’t like whats been done here. This reminds me of CW content and the dreary look reminds me of Twilight 😂 we moved to the dreary look because teal and orange was so overdone but ended up shortcutting on lighting technique which I feel was done well here.
    I think better examples of good color are found far outside the superhero genre, but if we’re only looking at marvel and action films of late then I’d concede more color and intentional lighting is absolutely welcome. In the end, I do not believe this edit hits the mark quite enough as an example to follow.

    • @UltraBrian
      @UltraBrian Месяц назад +6

      Stop complaining about the color grading my god lol.

  • @octoberride
    @octoberride Месяц назад +4

    I love the look and feel of it. I also loved Cavil as superman and those films. Guns take looks like the comics, it's fresh fun. I'm looking forward to this.

  • @KatharineOsborne
    @KatharineOsborne Месяц назад +48

    I feel like I might be alone in thinking it’s still on the drab side? It’s graded a little too blue, and the colours really could pop more. I dunno, maybe I have a totally different bar for ‘colourful’.
    I was raised on 50s musicals, just completely florid Technicolor and only a few films in recent decades have come close to that since.

    • @Lidoe
      @Lidoe Месяц назад +5

      I think it’s mostly the outdoor shots that look bad

    • @careylove
      @careylove Месяц назад +2

      I agree! Should be brighter

    • @tak-pa3134
      @tak-pa3134 Месяц назад +3

      Yeah! Too blue! I don't know... like: it's definitely a step up over the last couple of years, but it's not that big of a step.
      Every shot feels like it's been ran through the same "Instagram" filter.

    • @beastmaster6943
      @beastmaster6943 Месяц назад

      "Outside shots don't look right"
      said by people who never go outside

  • @doctorsam5771
    @doctorsam5771 Месяц назад +4

    It's definitely supposed look like a modern comic, if you ever saw a Dan Mora or Jorge Jimenez drawn comic you can see the similarities, the bright sky, the vibrant colors are all intentionally dialed up to eleven because it's supposed to invoke a sense of warmth and comfort when you're watching or reading a Superman story. Batman movies are the opposite, they make you feel uncomfortable and cold to display Bruce's struggles.

  • @MattEldridgeFilm
    @MattEldridgeFilm Месяц назад +7

    Vistavision isn't necessarily "full frame" either. Normal 35mm film is full frame. You might be thinking of Super 35 being smaller than full frame. Vistavision is just the film turned sideways so its a slightly wider frame.

  • @satiready
    @satiready Месяц назад +27

    My first look at it make me instinctively feel like it's a High budget Tv show

    • @Shift4g
      @Shift4g Месяц назад +2

      @josedavidcastillo9241 If the CW had endless budget!

    • @beastmaster6943
      @beastmaster6943 Месяц назад +1

      That doesn't football field scene does look like a The Flash scene on CW

    • @milkman-30
      @milkman-30 Месяц назад

      @@beastmaster6943I mean, it was really only a snippet so it’s hard to say what the rest of the scene will fully look like

  • @webgraphr718
    @webgraphr718 Месяц назад +8

    Believe the color grading works well with this story. Agree it needs to have color. A majority of the scenes were actually filmed in Cleveland.(Home of Superman's comic creators.) Saw some of the stores fronts, building interiors, and streets used during filming.

  • @CantinaTalkSW
    @CantinaTalkSW 11 дней назад

    This felt like a 20-minute video easy in 5 minutes. Well Done Patrick 🤝

  • @mrluciferlucerna
    @mrluciferlucerna Месяц назад +4

    If you use a 50mm lens on a full-frame camera, you're not actually "seeing 50mm", you're seeing what a 50mm lens see's on a full-frame sensor. There's a distinction

  • @thecardboardboxtrain356
    @thecardboardboxtrain356 28 дней назад

    The colors were so colorful that my girlfriend thought it was a kids movie during the teaser

  • @wilmyers3055
    @wilmyers3055 Месяц назад +6

    i think it being bright and colorful is good but i would have rather seen that by them shooting on film instead

  • @CrispusWaterman
    @CrispusWaterman Месяц назад +21

    Something in me definitely stirred when I realized why he was whistling. I'm fully in it for that reason alone

  • @maliksuperart4575
    @maliksuperart4575 Месяц назад +14

    The cinematography is different from GOTG trilogy and Peacemaker. Superman looks more like The Suicide Squad, but brighter

  • @Jbat543
    @Jbat543 Месяц назад

    Your takes are so on point and insightful. As someone who’s getting into photography and hoping to get into cinematography, this video is a godsend ❤

  • @darshandabrase3265
    @darshandabrase3265 Месяц назад +47

    It's more similar to superman(1978) rather than man of steel (2013).
    They are not inspired by zack Snyder.
    They are going into retro mode.

    • @atesdarkknight3486
      @atesdarkknight3486 Месяц назад +6

      Doesn’t look retro, looks overly digital

    • @batofkrypton9765
      @batofkrypton9765 Месяц назад +1

      Facts ​@@atesdarkknight3486

    • @lukeuseforce
      @lukeuseforce Месяц назад +3

      And I hate that. It was good for the 70's and 80's. Leave it there where it belongs. I want Man Of Steel 2, not this garbage.

    • @evanus
      @evanus Месяц назад +1

      @@atesdarkknight3486 yeah this looks nothing like the original.

    • @beastmaster6943
      @beastmaster6943 Месяц назад

      It looks fine
      Man of Steel 2 is dead, bury it.
      I guess haters gonna hate

  • @TroubleShotVFX
    @TroubleShotVFX Месяц назад +2

    Not a "weird lens". It's a wide angle lens. The same one Gunn used on Guardian 3 that no one cared about.

    • @impatrickt
      @impatrickt  Месяц назад

      It’s very weird

    • @TroubleShotVFX
      @TroubleShotVFX Месяц назад +1

      @@impatrickt Where was that energy when Guardians 3 came out?

  • @xavieraristide1217
    @xavieraristide1217 Месяц назад +19

    With Superman getting Yamcha'd frame 1 and the absolute strangeness of certain shots, I'm sold man. I can feel an exuberance to the filmmaking. It's inspired. It's lifting my spirits honestly

  • @arregorn
    @arregorn Месяц назад +22

    1:22 Superman snaps that neck.

    • @YaNice117
      @YaNice117 Месяц назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @timcanty2145
      @timcanty2145 Месяц назад +12

      Gotta make it accessible to Snyder fans, this new Superman will sometimes kill children as a reference to Pa Kent telling Clark "kill them all, son" in Man of Steel.

    • @-hitman-9103
      @-hitman-9103 Месяц назад +2

      Wild emoji 😭

    • @alexpowers5117
      @alexpowers5117 Месяц назад

      A very dangerous criminal for sure

    • @eduardobalbuena3887
      @eduardobalbuena3887 Месяц назад

      He actually has a protective aura that prevents that kind of thing from happening.

  • @quagmire321able
    @quagmire321able Месяц назад +12

    As a photographer, I like the look of the teaser. Some shots make it look as if its semi-documentary or news footage and that feels right to me.

  • @Genemon123
    @Genemon123 Месяц назад +7

    I would still prefer if it wasn’t overly blue, yellow and empty. That wide angle lense is a bit much to use for what seems to be a lot of the movie. Maybe once I see the movie it will fall into place but for now not the biggest fan

  • @XhonDang
    @XhonDang Месяц назад +12

    I still remember your re-color of winter soldier

    • @sloppysteaks
      @sloppysteaks Месяц назад +2

      a classic

    • @XhonDang
      @XhonDang Месяц назад +3

      @ this is probably going to be the dumbest thing I’ve said in regards to film/TV but the visuals in this film obviously have James Gunns fingerprint all over it, but I’m also picking up some hints of Michael bay. Some of the color grading is reminding me of The Boys too. Overall, I’m here for it

    • @saifleonardotariqquraishi5188
      @saifleonardotariqquraishi5188 Месяц назад +1

      very intrigued, can't find that anywhere though?

    • @XhonDang
      @XhonDang Месяц назад

      @@saifleonardotariqquraishi5188 I don’t understand but I agree/disagree

  • @AntoineMatuttis
    @AntoineMatuttis 16 дней назад +1

    Wait so the conclusion is just... "It looks that way because he wants it to look that way?" - Noooooo kidding? Directors make choices with every movie... All jokes aside I respect that you want to see something different and new. I also agree with you that the full-frame look is beautiful. That said, I care the most about a good story and authentic characters. Plus: Sound and music have a much bigger impact on me personally I realized - the movie can look like a potato if it has a good script, great acting, and a fantastic sound design (+ music).

  • @Gyulas_Art
    @Gyulas_Art Месяц назад +13

    Matt Reeves and James Gunn need to come together and bring Battinson and SuperSwet together in the same universe. The contrast in styles needs to be a thing in the new DCU. Not ever hero’s movie needs to feel the same. Then when we have a JL movie, we can get a beautiful amalgamation of all those styles. Not so it feels tonally confused but rather complex and nuanced.

  • @davidandersson7642
    @davidandersson7642 Месяц назад

    I love the wide angle lens. Everything looks expansive and huge. You get amazing perspective like in the kiss or that crouching punch. Everything feels larger than life.

  • @michaelalmodovar4332
    @michaelalmodovar4332 Месяц назад +7

    They also have seven months until the film comes out, leaving themselves a lot of time to do post production work on the film. I feel this has been done on purpose to see what the reaction to the teaser was.

    • @AlpacaDiaries
      @AlpacaDiaries Месяц назад +3

      Highly doubt that, since production design and DoP all specifically worked towards this distinct look. You normally don't make such bold lighting decisions, only to undo it in post, at least not willingly.

    • @master-of-mind5881
      @master-of-mind5881 Месяц назад

      @@AlpacaDiariesnothing Hollyweird does is normal. 😂

  • @viceroyvisuals
    @viceroyvisuals Месяц назад +1

    I believe most films are not shot with looks baked in in-camera. You can shoot raw and still grade it in post without it staying flat.

  • @MatiasFeliciano1
    @MatiasFeliciano1 Месяц назад +14

    Personally, I'm not a fan of the cinematography style for this film, as well as for The Suicide Squad, since it has that TV movie/CW feel to it. Looks too cheap in some aspects. But, I appreciate this breakdown. Your take on The Batman's cinematography is still one of my favorite videos on the platform.

    • @UltraBrian
      @UltraBrian Месяц назад +2

      Shush up

    • @MatiasFeliciano1
      @MatiasFeliciano1 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@UltraBrianLearn to accept people can have different opinions, bud.

    • @Lordamraphel
      @Lordamraphel Месяц назад

      @@MatiasFeliciano1 The cinematographer is the same guy who did the Flash movie, so many scenes look obviously fake, doesn't have any realism.

  • @ardorministries
    @ardorministries Месяц назад +1

    It’s like James Gunn discovered the fish-eye lens during Guardians Vol. 3 and now he can’t put it down.

  • @gursewaksinghgill4383
    @gursewaksinghgill4383 Месяц назад +5

    james going full on comic style

  • @patricktuorto
    @patricktuorto 22 дня назад +1

    I agree, give the movie a chance.

  • @brikkboyz22studiosextra
    @brikkboyz22studiosextra Месяц назад +3

    i love the lens choice and everything but the only thing that bugs me is how cyan the shadows look
    kinda drowns out the red imo but i still think the movie looks great

  • @elijahcassidy
    @elijahcassidy Месяц назад

    I really appreciated the way you talked about this. A lot of people on youtube who talk about cinematography on youtube seem to focus purely on the technical side and ignore that it’s all about what works with the narrative. So it's great that you specifically referenced how the 90s Fincher style works for Batman, and this hyperreal style could work for Superman just like it did in Guardians 3

  • @kadekeqw23
    @kadekeqw23 Месяц назад +7

    The problem with such crispy photography and having such a clean image is that volume staging and cgi becomes EXTRA apparent. There's a reason why Snyder films look SO good especially when its so CGI heavy, and its because of how the dark contrast, and high stylisation look help blend in the computer graphics. I also don't look like the aspect ratio of the teaser, when it's more squarish, it's the TV format. The wide angle shots are so bad, since it really takes me out of the movie, it seems like such a deliberate film school choice. The cinematographer does the same crap in The Flash.

    • @rocky8838
      @rocky8838 Месяц назад +2

      And Flash was shot by Lawrence Sher, who also filmed both Joker films. Those look great, while Flash looks like a video game that is devoid of any cinematic feeling.
      This Superman trailer has that same artificial feeling to it and even though I like Gunn's movies, I'm not going to be able to turn my brain off from the lackluster visual language of the film in the theater.

    • @Khn_2102
      @Khn_2102 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@rocky8838Yeah, it looks off

    • @Hollywood_without_redheads
      @Hollywood_without_redheads Месяц назад +1

      The first decade of the 21st century. The style of the movie has always been so clear. It was the same at the end of the last century. In the past ten years, we have entered a completely dark movie mode. .

  • @PrayasRahangdale
    @PrayasRahangdale Месяц назад +2

    In my opinion, keeping it simple makes it more classic. I get that, people are criticising it for its 'not so specific' cinematography and saturated color grading but for a Superman movie, it looks good. The visually simple and classic take by James Gunn, gives it a 'fresh' vibe - if it makes sense.

  • @thegreatacolyt1277
    @thegreatacolyt1277 Месяц назад +37

    He looks peak 0:17 disagree lots of movies look amazing

  • @TopShelfFandomVids
    @TopShelfFandomVids Месяц назад

    Just found ur channel im an editor and i gotta say ur explanation on why so many films and shows are flat is spot on . Happy I found this great channel and look forward to more content 🙏

  • @pedalandypedal
    @pedalandypedal Месяц назад +14

    It’s great. Superman is a symbol of hope. Hope is bright. Hope is vibrant. I went into it not expecting anything specific and have come away excited. DC may finally have their massive hit.

  • @pilouuuu
    @pilouuuu Месяц назад

    It's such a relief to have a colorful film these days. That's the way Superman is supposed to be.

  • @TheOutsider69
    @TheOutsider69 Месяц назад +8

    I generally hate wide angle lenses, especially in film (except for very specific shots for very specific reasons), but I actually quite like the way this is looking. I'm excited for this. My main issue was that first shot of Supes laying in the snow, it looks unfinished. If you take a look it looks as though they just superimposed him on top of a 2D snow texture lol.

  • @tripplejaz
    @tripplejaz Месяц назад

    I was excited when I saw it. James Gunn is not afraid of color and it's something I really appreciate about his film making. He's a great fit for comic book movies. I also like the choice of including the dog, something different to other Superman iterations. And let's be real, how many of us haven't cried watching a dog movie?

  • @Tomismyusername
    @Tomismyusername Месяц назад +7

    Looks incredible

  • @DeeRosa
    @DeeRosa 18 часов назад

    Pat really is a cool ass dude, man.

  • @PetrosofSparta
    @PetrosofSparta Месяц назад +5

    This is pretty much what I just filmed tonight for my own channel 😅
    But yeah, Superman is bright, he’s hope. It’s about colour and about being better than we are about looking up an aspiring to be more than our existence - the cinematography is telling a Super story, not because it’s super heroic (though it is) but Superman. It’s “more than”x

  • @AceFotinos
    @AceFotinos Месяц назад

    First time listener. Well done good sir. Grayeful thete are others out there that care as much as i do about the state of cinematography as of late.
    Thank you YT Recommended. Count me as a new Subscriber. Keep up rhe great work 🫶

  • @magictriangle6878
    @magictriangle6878 Месяц назад +7

    Looks artificial to me. The Sam Raimi Spider-Man films felt both real and had a heightened sense of reality that this doesn't give me. Regardless, I hope the movie is good

  • @ClarkKent71
    @ClarkKent71 Месяц назад

    Superman saving the child is one of the coolest things in Superhero movies I've ever seen.

  • @alex_oiman
    @alex_oiman Месяц назад +14

    imagine talking about how cinematography is going downhill and then praising this.
    and what texture? there's literally no texture. everything looks digital/clean. and everything being in wide angle blows hard.
    also. praising that colors in the trailer and then grading your shit like everything you presumably got tired of is the best joke

  • @zihaouk8639
    @zihaouk8639 Месяц назад +2

    @Patrick Tomasso, you've summed this up in a nutshell for all Superman and comic book fans. We've had many iterations of the Man of Steel and I've loved them all (especially Snyder and Cavill). That said, I'm still excited for a new take and looking forward to it. I can't get my head around all the negativity. As you said this is James Gunn's take on it, through his lens - it's Superman goddammit! What's not there to like?

  • @elijahnalley2458
    @elijahnalley2458 Месяц назад +9

    It doesn’t look clean it looks ultra real, like it’s all shot on go pro. The dark corners make it feel small

  • @whosatboogie4208
    @whosatboogie4208 Месяц назад

    I'm a hobbyist street film photographer and the color grading reminded me of the film stock Lomography 400 with the saturation turned up. I personally love bright and punchy colors in my own work so I was taken aback with this trailers bright color grading. This look fits Superman's style from the comics.
    This movie is going to look gorgeous in IMAX and Dolby, these reds and blues are too beautiful to miss out on

  • @BenBradyOfficial
    @BenBradyOfficial Месяц назад +4

    This is exactly whatI thought when I watched the trailer

  • @ted-3dotmov
    @ted-3dotmov Месяц назад

    I absolutley 100% agree! Im so excited for whats to come!

  • @mrsmith5114
    @mrsmith5114 Месяц назад +4

    It's colored in the Guardians Of The Galaxy coloring imo. That is what I instantly think of when I seen it.

    • @TheRobinWithWit
      @TheRobinWithWit Месяц назад

      Well same director, and that isn't necessarily bad.

  • @jakemarzluf8708
    @jakemarzluf8708 Месяц назад

    The look has something to say!! People always point to color grading and cinematography for flash and style (which this does have) but forget that their #1 purpose is to serve the story. From the very first shot of the trailer you can see film grain and a really nice vibrancy to the midtones that have character and feeling. It gives the same warmth and nostalgia as shooting on color slide film. I could geek forever about this stuff but I’m just glad they’re breaking the mold for the sake of telling a story!

  • @shriyut
    @shriyut Месяц назад +6

    Maybe it's just me but it looks very similar to The Flash... the colors and the wide angle shots, both. But I'll reserve my judgement

    • @IVMZR
      @IVMZR Месяц назад +4

      Same cinematographer

  • @MantasVEVO
    @MantasVEVO Месяц назад

    I like that it's bright and bold and flashy. What I don't like is that its all yellow and teal. There are no blues or pinks, just yellow and teal.

  • @HeroicRecaps
    @HeroicRecaps Месяц назад +6

    This actually makes The Flash look good lmfaooo 😂

  • @WiktorZiółkowski-z5m
    @WiktorZiółkowski-z5m Месяц назад

    Yep. It looks really good. Colorful, bright, crisp and yet with a lot of nice grain. It feels like a perfect for evoking the silver age feel of comics

  • @osnapproductions1962
    @osnapproductions1962 Месяц назад +5

    I want a color grade Lut of the Superman trailer to use for my projects

  • @unodeldim3610
    @unodeldim3610 Месяц назад

    I've been saying this. I am so glad you said it. The low color trend... the looooooooong wide shots with deep bass synth just scrolling the "beautiful world we've created" are boring and make a 75 minute story last 2 hours. I get that digital video editing lowers the budget, but manufacturing physical things has also become way easier and movie makers should really get back to basics in some of these areas. Like using more VFX and less CGI, spending more time balancing audio. Committing to actual camera work instead of making it as vanilla as possible to facilitate digital editing. and so on. Otherwise, homemade videos will inevitably match the quality of Hollywood movies.

  • @basmatiChawal24-7
    @basmatiChawal24-7 Месяц назад +3

    Everyone said the same thing for Cavil's suit 😂.

  • @B.I.B.L.E.
    @B.I.B.L.E. Месяц назад

    Great take on this. I was kind of thrown off initially when I saw the trailer but am growing to love the color grading for its vibrant aesthetic. It’s supposed to be fun and surreal.

  • @HughMongusJazzhole
    @HughMongusJazzhole Месяц назад +10

    I love the colors they're using. The contrast is bright; similar to the optimism one might feel when thinking of Superman. Cant recall the last time ive been more excited for a DCEU film other than The Suicide Squad

  • @sarahnadeofpoetry
    @sarahnadeofpoetry Месяц назад

    Even though I'm not a part of this world and didn't understand all the technical talk, I totally agree with you. This heightened sense of realism is perfect for Superman, but it doesn't look like someone just shot a vlog on their phone camera. The word heightened does a lot of heavy lifting here, because like Superman, it looks bold, it looks idealistic, it looks like our reality... but at the same time, also what our reality could and should be. And in that sense, it truly is like a comic book brought to life, because comic books are also a form of heightened realism. But unlike other comic book films, there's a certain purity to it as well. It's like you can add honey to your yogurt, or you could throw the entire fruit bowl in there, some granola and a bunch of other stuff. There's restraint here, even as it looks and feels so huge and lush. Again, just like with the Man of Steel himself - humble, pure and true.

  • @amreview5616
    @amreview5616 Месяц назад +13

    i just don’t like how aggressively orange and teal it is

    • @impatrickt
      @impatrickt  Месяц назад +1

      @@amreview5616 what’s the colours of his suit?