World's Lightest Gaming Mouse (insane)
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The most extreme gaming mouse I've tested - is the M2K actually worth it?
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Optimum would 100% smoke out any other tech content creator in a FPS shootout. Dude has insane aim and doesnt even flex about it.
Well Haus Gaming and Fresh Reviews are/were actual top pro players.
fresh reviews has a higher rank then optimum in apex atleast
more to fps than just aim, but his aim is godly
@@haasii yh being a higher rank than someone doesnt mean = better aimer especially in apex which is more about rotationing, positioning, decision making and comms than mechanical ability in higher ranked games
Facts he’s a real gigachad
Iv'e been using the m2k for the past 6 7months, and it is alien tech, is almost unfair to describe how good it is. If you play fingertip is heaven on earth.
W take
are you not using the starlight mouse as your main?
@@multimanfail I boght 6 starlights (i really liked it) but after using the m2k I just cant go back, is just too good.
Is it a shooter exclusive for you or do you play other games as well? Especially the side buttons are important for me or at least I think do haha
ive played mine for about 5 months now, on and off. still didn’t reach my peak performance.
think i’m missing some stability from how short it is, but this is a skill issue
This is exactly the kind of content that none of the other tech channels will do and why I subbed ages ago
I can't agree with him that the lighter the mouse the better this is simply not true, look at the g502 a chunky BOI with a lot of weight most bought gaming mouse in the world.
Ltt has already done a vid on this mouse bruh
@@badgjr6795 you're implying that most bought = actually the best
@@cheyhey2170 Thats true but think about it comparise a lot of those expensive light mouses to some of the cheaper mouses that might be more heavy as a G502 Main user that thing rocks even tho how much weight it has and all the features for that price would say its better then the G pro Superlight just bc of the insane price mark the GPX has
@@Tens-M I dont know if you're good at games but I used to the use the g502 and its definitely shit for high level fps games the lighter the mouse the more accurate you are it is what it is accept it
A real Zaunkönig only weighs in at 7,5 to 11g. It is the 3rd smallest song bird in Europe. The german name means „king on the fence“ and is pronounced Zaun tsown as in town, könig as in Kœnigsegg.
woah i never knew that ty for telling us
Underrated
I knew they're small, but holy shit you're right. Google says it's 9,1 grams.
3rd smallest lmao why not first smallest
@@kerkertrandov459 well the way math works it would be 3rd because 2 other birds are smaller than it.
5:40 I absolutely love how you included results for the Viper V2 Pro, your graphs and results are my number one deciding factor for gaming mice info and purchase decision making, great video as always!!
I was also curious, how do you make your graphs, do you make them in after effects or illustrator or something else?
I would like to know too
in one video he showed that he has these machines that run all his tests and since because they are machines, his test results will always be 100% accurate, i just don't know how the machines actually work tho
yes same lol
Impressive engineering. Probably doesn't get any lighter than that.
I'm firmly in the palm grip camp and love the shape of my Roccat Kone Pro Air. It's not that light, the battery life is meh and the buttons have some pretravel but the shape and overall performance make it worth it to me.
Just wait for the M1S 🤫
Lol yes I absolutely love the way it feels in my hand. Unparalleled. But was thinking the exact things about the buttons and clicks last night.
@@YomericaORdef the what? 👁👄👁
@@bigsly3332 That will be an extreme version of m1k mouse from Zaunkoenig.
Honeycomb design, bam
Have to agree with Optimum's review 100%. I've had an M2K for just on a year now & would not change for anything except another Zaunkoenig. You simply forget there is something in your hand it is so light. It is also great to be able to converse with the guys who designed & made it. Yes it is totally insane, expensive, finger tip only & utterly light but definitely worth it.
Where do u rest ur hand tho??? Imagine u lay on ur bed but half of it is cut... Ive always loved big mice, the last one I used was Red Dragon Mammoth M801 Length: 121mm Width: 81mm Height: 41mm however it is really old, heavy and outdated sensor. So I upgraded to Cooler Master MM720 which is only 49g and dimensions of 105.42 x 76.52 x 37.35mm quite a bit smaller but now ive gotten used to it and its just fine and i like it a lot more than my previous mouse cuz its so much lighter and more accurate. I cant imagine myself using smaller mice tho, its like driving a small car or wearing small shoes, just doesnt feel big enough ive tried. And then u have m2k which isnt even a real mouse, like where am I supposed to rest or even put my hand ??? They might as well only leave 2 buttons with a stick taped to ur palm no need of a base or anything... That will weight 5-10 grams prob and be even more of a joke
@@kerkertrandov459 If just cruising the net (like now) my hand is resting on the mouse mat & the fingers push the mouse around. If gaming, I use low dpi/sensitivity, so use big movements of the mouse. My hand is then off the mouse mat and my whole arm is moving. As I said the M2K is so light you really don't notice it is there. I have a Zowie EC1-B which is attached to my games server & although it feels comfortable, it feels so heavy. As Optimum said the M2K is very niche & is for finger tip grip only, so you're not resting your hand on the mouse.
Coming from wireless razer - how is the cable? Is it much inconvenient?
@@dripskydrip The cable is thin and fairly light, but stiffer than a paracord cable. I run the cable through a mouse bungie so it's not very noticeable. I don't notice in game. Comparing it to my (wireless) Finalmouse, the cable is I suppose a bit noticeable, but the Finalmouse is a bit heavier so it balances out.
@@boanerges2252 which mouse bungee do you use?
what i love about this is that he saw this mouse on the viewer's setup video and just straight up bought it
Fingertip grip is insanely under appreciated the movements you can make and the freedom you get is insane
Looks uncomfy af.
I’ve owned my m2k for about a year now and I can confidently agree with every point in this video. I used to only be able to palm grip mice so the transition to fingertip was definitely difficult (couldnt even swipe my mouse properly to turn in game) but eventually it just became so natural to use that I refuse to use any other mouse now. Even if this mouse didnt make my aim any better (which it definitely did) I would still 100% recommend it because its so fun to use and unlike anything else. Just waiting for a wireless version at this point :D
When do u think it will come
Bois about to beat the professionals in game 😂😂
What's your highest rank bud?
i'm currently in the same spot as you i exclusively palm grip and cannot fingertip grip for the life of me. did you do aim training to get use to it or just kept playing in general. i wanna pick up the M3K when it drops later on the year.
This is a great review. I kinda thought this thing was a meme. The lack of side buttons is a bummer but it looks like it could fit my grip style.
I love how you keep pushing into new and different PC gaming territories! Keep up the awesome work!!!
I remember when Artosis (Starcraft: Broodwar caster, also plays it at a pretty competitive level) reviews or talked about MK1. 22 grams only 2 buttons, no scroll. It was unheard of! Glad too see that they're serious business and to see another one vouching for their prowess.
Dude, I love your channel more from video to video, you found the mouse review niche and fill it in so great, your testing methods are also top notch and the presentation speaks for itself, keep it up! :>
this channel seriously has the best pc content on youtube. we must protect this man at all costs.
Judging from his aiming improvement, no protection needed......😁
indeed man he truly has the best PC content on youtube.
Yesssssss! Ever since you had a video of you ordering this thing I have been waiting. Finally.
I'm curious to see how the G-Wolves HSK+ compares to the Zaunkoenig. The HSK+ seems like a budget, wireless version of the MK2. 38 grams for wireless + side buttons seems pretty compelling (even if it is over 50% heavier). Also stunning review as always Ali!
Yea, I have mine preordered, and I hope it's nearly as good as this. People are talking about how the gwolves stuff has QC issues, but it looks like they have someone on the gwolves discord listening intently to feedback, and taking user input for feature requests and color requests.
For those wondering, the Zaunkönig ("fence king") aka eurasian wren is one of the smallest birds here in Germany and a rather feisty one at that
Wusste ich nichtmal als Deutscher 😅
@@timo8604 schlechte allgemeinbildung
@@Keckegenkai Vogelkunde ist jz nicht mein Fachgebiet, korrekt
@@Keckegenkai stänker mal nicht
I imagine you've already been made aware but just in case you haven't - look into the g-wolves HSK :)
(edit: I'm dumb, he's literally made a video on it already, just figured he didn't know since it wasn't mentioned in this video)
Likely not going to be a preferred choice for you but is an option for those that want side buttons / can't shell out $300
also they've just released a wireless version, but it seems it still needs a revision.
8:19 "I consider myself an avarage covax enjoyer"
Giga chad energy instaly recognized
Having used the 53 gram mm710, my viper ultimate feels like a brick now. They could easily go lighter. Those switches in the M2k mouse sound really good.
I think something to consider when it comes to your aim feeling better is the fact that you have gone from this palm claw grip to a fingertip claw grip. This force in grip style does change the way you fundamentally aim. Nonetheless, this is still super impressive
my hand naturally favors finger tip grip so its not always forced. i use Claw now mainly do to switching to the Superlight from the model o- my hand still gravitates to finger tip when im just browsing and doing normal things.
Your ability to make all your videos look futuristic is amazing, you content is such great quality. You deserved way more subscribers that you have now
F*k now I am seriously considering it. An Optimum Tech approved badge means a lot!
Excellent info here mate, love your work, keep it up, doing Aussie Tech Tubers proud
Ouh Wow He actually made the mouse review on the mouse he bought on a whim on the rating setup video. Such a chad for being so true to his word.
Man is beaming, good stuff optimum
Finally someone in the tech channels that can utilize this mouse 😎
Imagine paying more for less mouse.
mice like this are always kind of annoying for me, because they are basically everything i want/need in a mouse yet fail at the most important part, let me explain. I recently got a starlight and the less weight and basically flat sides, made an extremely noticeable improvement in my aim, like i felt like i somehow accidently downloaded aimbot or something when i first used it, it was that noticeable. this mouse is almost 20g lighter and has completely flat sides (i keep mentioning this because it's great for consistency, if you put your hand in a slightly different spot then the last time you held the mouse, it wont massively affect how the mouse is pointed because of a divot in the side), but i use a finger/claw hybrid grip, when i'm just holding the mouse or flicking, i'm using fingertip, but the second i start tracking my hand goes straight to claw with a bit of my palm on the mouse for control, and you can't do that with this mouse or the hsk i tried, it's just like a really small thing that ruins the whole mouse for me. maybe i should start practicing only playing fingertip.
I miss the days when high-end 120g gaming mouse came with extra 40g weight extension
me too
I'd love to see a larger version of this mouse that supports different grip styles and maybe wireless as an option. The matte carbon fibre body looks gorgeous and the awesome hardware inside of the mouse makes it awesome. I don't think having it be larger or wireless would add too much weight.
@HyperSoop I believe wireless tech would add more weight than having the cable
Was hoping for a quick comparison with the G-wolves HSK but nevertheless, great vid!!!
Would definitely get a wireless version of this
5:50 Audi RS wheel just chillin
for perspective on what peripherals are actually useful for competitive shooters, this is the only channel I watch and trust.
For the people who are worried about going too light I'd strongly suggest biting the bullet and going for it, if you are worried about control you should not get it from mouse weight as that adds inertia which is an uncontrollable factor, instead get your control from slower mouse feet, or a control pad or mud pad. Hell even if you don't care about getting better, the improved ergonomics will definitely help with hand health. Give it a try you never know what you might like.
how would this improve ergonomics? wouldnt it be worse than say palm gripping an ergo mouse where your hand is flatter to the desk and wrist more neutral?
@@cl1ckrr I'm not talking about this mouse in particular I'm talking about lower weight on any mouse. Having less weight would mean you would have to use less force to move it. You may not notice it at first but after long gaming sessions you will 100% notice it when compared to a heavier mouse.
Its possible to have a wirless "mouse" lighter than this. Put all the tech inside the mouse pad [like a huge trackpad] and have a mouse like shell made of a very light material. One problem is how do you transmit clicks from the mouse shell onto the mousepad
hsk plus is something to consider as well if you want side buttons and wireless.
Looks so cool and would love to give it a try but the no side buttons is just too big of a deal breaker for me. I use the side buttons for a ton of different stuff depending on the game.
This mouse was presented in Die Höhle der Löwen in Germany, they has get a deal with a investor and now are selling those mouse worldwide. Only... The price is 299€... This is insane
The production quality this man constantly puts out is absolutely top notch!! Keep it up!!
i remember the video in which you bought it and i‘m really surprised that you like it that much, i‘m currently using a small starlight and might give this thing a try in the future. as always great video!
If anyone interested in this mouse but the price is too steep, check out the Hati HSK which comes in at 37.1 grams. It's around 90$ or so on Amazon. Still a bit pricey but not bad.
I love how small it is, and I'm intrigued by how it's hollow. It'd probably make it easier to clean.
However not having side buttons disqualifies it for me... I hope that big companies take note and start shrinking and lightening their offerings too.
Did you compare click latency at 1000 and 8000 Hz in high-speed mode? In high-speed mode, click latency indeed is identical between all polling rates, but when comparing high-speed 8000 Hz and full-speed 1000 Hz, there is a difference of 0.5 ms.
Hi, why no sensor lag measurement? Thanks for the very good review!
Love your content always educational and honest opinion even being realistic with cost and always give option for all budgets. Thanks for the hard work.
Very expensive but at the same time, such a unique mouse. Great video as always🔥🔥
What does the Finalmouse cost on the secondary market though? I have a feeling it may even cost just as much as this.
@@TheSkyCries1 It is around the same price, but it has thousands of units nowadays. Remember when they had resold for multiple hundreds
@@TheSkyCries1 the qualify of finalmouse is very bad compared to m2k. Right mouse button was broken in 2 weeks of usage.
If they ever make a sub $150 model with similar weight, I'd absolutely consider this
The viper v2 pro is the mouse that made me play better immediately. Broke my aimlabs personal records on the first day and was just tapping heads on csgo. I love this damn mouse.
Been looking forward to this review since the impromptu purchase during that one video. Definitely not a mouse for me but still incredible!
Listening to a tech review while watching the tech reviewer tapping heads with the product is oddly satisfying.
Would be awesome if you could do a video about your lightning setup, the quality of your video is awesome with theses lights in the background
He’s so humble about how good he is at games lol
Happy to get another perspective for the buyer, thanks!
optimum swooping in with the sweaty scroll wheel jumping haha
I've been using mine for 1 year now, it never gets old for me, its just perfect, consistent. Regarding the cable, you just need to get your mouse bungee to position the cable just above where you use your mouse, the longer bungee the better. Before using the bungee I would have to think about cable placement way too much.
is it really worth 319 usd tho?
@@charlessssssss Yes, because before this mouse I bought loads of other mice and haven't bought any since.
I use it for both gaming and work, and I work 40 hours a week at my PC. its just better than anything else I've tried in almost every way, so if you are looking for something that performs and is low fatigue this is it.
You should try the HSK+, it’s like a wireless version of this WITH SIDE BUTTONS!!
It sucks compared to the m2k
Great video as per usual, I'd love for you to take a look at the JBL Quantum TWS, they are wireless earbuds (think AirPods Pro) with suitable latency for competitive gaming via 2.4 GHz. I think they are interesting even if you only use them as earbuds and not as a full on headset replacement.
I would absolutely fork up the insane price for this thing if not for one crucial detail: the lack of side buttons. I've been using the sidebuttons for voice-chat push to talk for 20 years so the thought of attempting to shift those binds to my keyboard is pretty much out of the question for me.
The reviewer that good at gaming and reviewing is here
Amazing video! Love your content. Would it be possible for you to compare it to some other "fingertip only" mice like the Starlight-12 Small and G-Wolves HSK wired/HSK+?
Good day! I miss seeing your videos on my feed Ali. You are lit
hows the ryobi electric lawn mower :)
glad to see this pop up after discovering the mk1. sad that i cant justify 300 euro for a mouse. plus i've finally found endgame with the mz1 and really wanna try the wireless version with the swappable butt plates.
i feel like mz1 with no bump/butt plate on could give you a similar effect to the zaunkoenig
I think you nailed it, put the same thoughts I had into words. It’s hard to explain but it’s truly beautiful to use. It’s ironic but all the finalmouse marketing actually applies to this more than their own product. I use the pulsar mouse bungee, the cable is the weak spot and that’s saying something. Might try to put an air cord in mine but that limits me to 1khz which I personally think is a well worth trade off. I get cpu usage spikes with 8khz and would need to spend time learning which softwares to use and how to monitor and tune my system, if it’s even at all possible. I’m on 8700k@5ghz. Maybe I can put my usb hub on a different core. Or upgrading cpu may handle it better.
I don't remember if you've discussed this already, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Alienware QD-Oled monitor if you can get your hands on one.
I have one lol - better than anything else out there
You could make a 0g making mouse, perhaps using magnetic levitation on the mousepad and mouse interface. But this would also mean near-zero friction, which would make it even more slippery than the glass pads
At that point, it would be better to just develope a mousepad that tracks your hand. The clicks are done by tapping on the mousepad itself.
Voila, 0g gaming mouse, no debounce delay, doesen't hold you back in speed. Probably unconfortable af, but so is almost everything lighter than the Logitech Superlight.
Problem is the haptic feedback then. Especially the scroll wheel which is basically impossible to implement properly
If they ever make a wireless. It’s an easy pickup! Thanks for getting this on my radar
Best tech channel on YT!
So currently which mouse do u recommend to purchase wireless and non wireless and why? (FINGERTIP user) [more of a aggresive fingertip ( fingertip + claw ) ]
The Viper Ultimate hits the back of my palm Hand Length: 17.6 & Hand Width: 9.7
When can we expect Razer Viper V2 PRO review as I can see u already mesured end to end latency on V2 PRO?
Need a full in-depth gaming setup tour
And great 😊 content keep it up
i would guess that having more room for finger movement without the mouse hitting your palm is a big deal for fingertip grip players
I guess I bought most of the mice in the market even custom ones, I didn't think of the M2K because it's wired and has no side buttons, but after watching this review I’m going to order one
the sensor latency chart seems to be gone in most of your recent videos ㅜㅜ
been looking forward to see some updates with your test results but here we are..
totally understand all your decisions on anything but it would be so good to see your sensor tests again tho
please reconsider having it in your videos thank you so much for decent contents
Wasn’t the sensor test mainly for wireless mice?
@@Definitely_Melnyxthe high dpi/ viper8k/ budget mice video had the test results
@@Definitely_Melnyx not so sure if the previous videos had some
high dpi video was the first one ive seen
Great review man. For FPS gamers this will be perfect. For me, I won't end up buying one since I also play other PC games like RTS, ARPG etc.
Do you main this now? or still on GPX? Ive been thinking about buy this thing for almost a year now...
Everything the Logitech g pro superlight has is all I need, I feel like If any of the buttons or wireless was missing it would be an instant deal breaker. That's the thing that logitch if not others have found to be what I would think is the golden formula, 4 buttons 1 scroll wheel and wireless. Wish I was able to try it out though.
I would use headphone wire, there are some with more plastic materials and less rubber, I think it would fit well! amazing prototype
I grew up on Microsoft wheel Mouse. Zowie fanboy.
I like a lightweight mouse with an MTG playmat most the time. I like having some resistant, so I stop on point.
400dpi, 1000hrz, 10 to 12in 360. I really dislike the light mouse trend, I was a fill in for Dignitas CS in 2014-15.
Final Mouse sent us 10 of them when them came out, it was super trash. Bad switches felt like I got it at the dollar store, and super in consistent.
The lift of was terrible, I like the matt and pvc pads because I am still used to a ball. I will try this out though, you may change my mind.
I can see how to this true. I tried out Cooler Master MM720 coming from a G Pro and noticed a pretty big improvement in everything. I gave the mouse to a friend since I travel with my SFF and everything I use is cordless other than my gaming pad.
Would be a curious to see your opinion about the Cooler Master MM720 since it's a 49g mouse with really nice ergo for claw grip and really affordable.
Optimum I’m begging you to see this not to be annoying anything but you’re One of the only reviewer‘s that I actually trust because of the connection I have with the stats you tell and your description of the items with your personal experience but anyway what is the number one 1440 P and then the number one 1080 P monitors in terms of competitive categories I don’t know if it matters or not but I play Warzone with a 3090
i know its not related to the hood classic that the m2k is, but ive been looking to buy myself a monitor, and i just wanna ask - is the budget monitors video still accurate or have there been any changes in the space recently?
Not as far as I know!
The 24G2 is still one of the best btw, but the G24F is arguably better
If that shouldn't be enough, it's always worth checking out rtings and hardware unboxed for great data driven monitor reviews. :)
@@optimumtech Please Optimum if you could do a 2022 Update videos on current best monitors/future monitors it would be great
as the Viewsonic XG2431 is unavailable in half of the world.
Asus ProArt displays are good.
I got myself yesterday the Razer viper v2 pro and im super happy that i bought it.
That exactly true, this is the best mouse ever made as of now. I was a palm grip user before I bought this mouse and it took me about 2-3 weeks to get used to fingertip and it worth it. The feel of this mouse is so great when you used to it that g pro super light feels as a brick after it. Looking forward to next Zaunkoenig creation as there is nothing on the market that can compare to m2k as of now.
Here's hoping you review the HSK Pro!
You can always use a trackpad
That's a weightless mouse
Big braaaiinnnn
This mouse sounds like an easy way to get carpal tunnel
I have one and the SL12. It's actually very relaxing to use since it is so light. There's no stress on your hands at all.
Imagine if they had honeycombing in the M2K
The M3K is coming dec 17th, would like to see that!
1:05 Holy shit man
Love your mouse review vids.. could you do a video on the pulsar xlite V2 wireless.. it would be much appreciated and compare it with the other mice you have reviewed on
Lighter is always better, I cut my mice up to reach in the 30 gram range and its easily worth it
the price tho...
he got that dawg in him. bro's aim is wild.
I desperately want a Lightweight version of something like the Razer Naga Pro but just with the standard 2 thumb buttons (and maybe a forward trigger button). The shape of the Naga Pro is soooo nice for my hand.
They could save on mats with bee nest structure and go even below 20g and could sell it for 450 bucks, but they have low iq, so maybe next time.
i have the m2k from Piranah mods, might have to pick this up though.