This is my favorite fighter build (has been for a few months now). Made some slight changes, such as using the stiletto for increased armor pen making it pretty much completely counter other PDR fighters using a typical falchion or arming sword. The reason I dropped buckler is because they nerfed the movement speed and the extra armor doesn't feel as impactful as it used to due to the huge amount of armor pen and magic damage in solos. I don't think fighter is "meta" right now, but I do think you can play well using this build! Good luck if you decide to give it a try
26:41. Jump, dont crouch. The Ranger multishot gets a tighter grouping the more they look down. If you look straight down with multishot and jump all your arrows will hit dead cwnter. So if you crouch they get a tighter group on you and you expose your head. Plus crouching slows you down qhich makes it even easier for them. Without a shield the besst thing you can do is jump + lean back + maybe keep swinging to get arms in the way. I'd have to test again, but im pretty sure the cone of multi shot spreads more the more you look up. So looking up is bad with multishot, looking down is good.
@@nicholassichau7582 it use to have 50% scaling or whatever because rangers use to have +100 weapon damage. I lost a good set when it first got buffed and thought it was op but nah it's easy to dodge.
That cleric immediately opening a chest continuing to mind his own business after watching you gut a man was so funny man idk why that made me laugh so much
In terms of effective HP, the biggest gains from armor come from 175 to 230 armor, which is 0.3% PDR per point. After that it goes to 0.2% PDR per point. In terms of effective HP, this is closer than it looks, because each % of PDR is more valuable than the last, but it is still less effective HP per point of armor.
@@tano1670 just because they are expensive doesnt mean they are bad. Thats artificial, from the market. I think if you have something this universally good its going to be unhealthy for the game. This and lightfoots need changed
I just uploaded the anti no spell cleric / secret lantern shield tech video we talked about! Check it out whenever you get a chance and let me know how it works for you! :D
I swear I had Deja vu because Y4mi had the exact same ranger do the exact same thing to him in the exact same spot! Full health and dogging the ranger and he got close and just 1 hit him with the shotgun perk
are cobalt loose trousers not that good? i always thought the pen could be useful but no one uses them. also there REALLY needs to be more options than loose trousers. i dunno how iron mace hasnt buffed other stuff and nerfed trousers. barbuta also is massively irrelevant and i wish it wasnt
I feel like this game needs do more with the gear score brackets first bracket: all white gear. rewards green gear and jewelry second bracket: all green gear, cape and jewelry. rewards blue gear third bracket: all blue gear. rewards purple gear fourth bracket: all purple gear. rewards legendary gear fifth bracket: all legendary gear. rewards ??? Maybe it is higher drop rates in the brackets that they have, and I just haven't noticed. However if not, this could really bring some purpose to putting on better gear. Wearing good gear simply to fight better players is starting to bore me.
unsure on all of skills, but for every playtest i can remember past recoverable health being introduced you can recover second wind through camping, id imagine its the same with other limited skills, but i havent tested/experienced that first hand
@@gronkistI’m not sure, look underneath the skill though. There would be a small little black bar that fills up white when you camp fire and when it’s full you get the skill back. You can see it under 2nd wind but not sprint in this video 2nd wind used to take 2 grey/white campfires but now it’s just 1 grey.
You mentioned, at 52s of the video, that with the nerf with the true damage right now, combo attack is a lot better. Im kinda new to the game, what were the nerfs to true damage? Isnt it added at the end of all damage?
also my suggestion for cloak is cloak of darkness you can get 5 move speed cloaks pretty easily and even with good rolls like armor and true. best cloak for a lot of classes actually.
I’m confused and maybe I’m the only one but how is this fair to rogue?? You have 40-50 more hp than the avg rogue, able to wield double dagger, and you gain a lot of MS with active abilities. If you play rogue is this even contestable?
@@Mark-wl2gn correct, but without spending 6k+ gold on a true phys kit this seems unkillable though. If both rogue and this kit were sub 25 gear score this would win 10/10 times no matter what the rogue does…
It isn’t. Stealth doesn’t do shit against 60% PDR on top of a 40% instant heal button so you just out trade and out dps by holding mouse 1. Of course you’ll have some bozo call that a skill issue though
Obviously very skilled play. It completely turns me off from the game though. D&D inspired setting but the bunny hopping and quick scope arrows and ability baiting and running is a snooze fest. Hope they make some improvements with things like massive movement reductions after jumping and turn speeds so you don’t have these Tourette’s fits to try and force shots into limbs for damage reduction. Respect the skill though.
Eh bunny hop is part of the mechanics, keeps your momentum when you draw an arrow or cast a spell. They’d have to make it where jumping cancels all actions, which just lowers the skill ceiling for no reason. The thing I dislike is how ranged heavy it is, the bow type he’s using makes the game boring, fighters/rangers/bards constantly spam it. It’s just run away or chase while poking with a low dmg weapon but it’s so much pressure you can really do anything about it unless the bow user completely fucks up
@@Firebox720 just shows the current state of the game. It’s bunny hop kiting with bows, outside of cleric and rogues ganking, it’s all ranged. It’s not like back in the first and second alphas when people were melee fighting constantly and having good foot movement and spacing. Now it’s just poke poke poke poke, 1 melee hit when you know they die off the trade.
@@stealthyturtles I mean I agree, but it currently is what it is. It's been like this for a long time. It's why daggers are so important as well, because it allows instant swapping from your bow
What is the best fighter build for squire gear? Man i thibk you should do a guide series for under 25 gear score with all classes! Edit: there is a shit ton of theorycrafting in this game just like wow and its a pain, i for one enjoy under 25 gear score because is pure skill
Slayer 100% with one random green armor piece. Either run falcion with stiletto or arming and short sword. For range use surv bow or recurve. Use slayer,sword mastery,duel Weald,weapon mastery. If your using falcion you can opt for combo attack and use a crossbow and Castilian instead of weapon mastery but I don’t prefer it
he mentioned this briefly in the video, he's just using it as a "stat stick" meaning he only has it equipped to gain the stats on it, pretend it's a third ring :)
No, he can probably win the majority of these fights just by unga bungaing in. The problem is consistency and tempo with threat of third party. Why go in melee which will force you to heal and be a close fight when you can just be full health by spamming down with bow? Especially with the threat of third party right after.
Daggers have the highest dps aside from maybe felling axe. They definitely are top tier fighter weapon right now. A lot of the 2 handed weapons are dog shit if you get in their face too because they do drastically less damage when hitting with the hilt. Plus your guaranteed to be slower than the fighter with daggers so they will just get in your face and out dps you.
He kites with his bow because the objective in fighting people is to kill your opponent while taking the least amount of damage possible because there’s always a chance of a 3rd party showing up when your hp is lower. Also because survival bow now is good for keeping people from running from you with it’s on hit slow.
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This is my favorite fighter build (has been for a few months now). Made some slight changes, such as using the stiletto for increased armor pen making it pretty much completely counter other PDR fighters using a typical falchion or arming sword. The reason I dropped buckler is because they nerfed the movement speed and the extra armor doesn't feel as impactful as it used to due to the huge amount of armor pen and magic damage in solos. I don't think fighter is "meta" right now, but I do think you can play well using this build! Good luck if you decide to give it a try
why not use short sword with sword mastery instead of combo attack?
26:41. Jump, dont crouch. The Ranger multishot gets a tighter grouping the more they look down. If you look straight down with multishot and jump all your arrows will hit dead cwnter. So if you crouch they get a tighter group on you and you expose your head. Plus crouching slows you down qhich makes it even easier for them.
Without a shield the besst thing you can do is jump + lean back + maybe keep swinging to get arms in the way.
I'd have to test again, but im pretty sure the cone of multi shot spreads more the more you look up. So looking up is bad with multishot, looking down is good.
Is it true multishot got buffed so the 4 side arrows do 100% damage now up from 50% and 75%?
@@nicholassichau7582 idk, but its a lot if they all hit.
@@nicholassichau7582 it use to have 50% scaling or whatever because rangers use to have +100 weapon damage. I lost a good set when it first got buffed and thought it was op but nah it's easy to dodge.
that cleric knew he was getting more off those bodies then fighting you LOL
Firebox is always on top of the meta, if he isn't ahead of it or creating it.
Don't doubt his fighter builds, this is the guy you want to watch.
That cleric immediately opening a chest continuing to mind his own business after watching you gut a man was so funny man idk why that made me laugh so much
Loved the ending
Keep it up
Great vid. Love your videos and streams bud, keep it up
In terms of effective HP, the biggest gains from armor come from 175 to 230 armor, which is 0.3% PDR per point.
After that it goes to 0.2% PDR per point.
In terms of effective HP, this is closer than it looks, because each % of PDR is more valuable than the last, but it is still less effective HP per point of armor.
I think loose trousers might need some kinda nerf/change. They are too universally good and literally go on any class or any build.
I mean yes but the fact that they are so expensive its a nerf in itself. Reason why i dont even buy them anymore.
@@tano1670 just because they are expensive doesnt mean they are bad. Thats artificial, from the market. I think if you have something this universally good its going to be unhealthy for the game. This and lightfoots need changed
@@BananaMeat i mean i do agree but i dont think its a big prolem for now
@@tano1670, its definitely a minor one. I just hope we can find a balance between high pdr without basically gutting either it or movespeed
I think the agility stat and movespeed stat as a whole need a slight rework. not really a nerf but a change.
Warhammer with stiletto slaps too. 30% armor pen
I just uploaded the anti no spell cleric / secret lantern shield tech video we talked about! Check it out whenever you get a chance and let me know how it works for you! :D
I swear I had Deja vu because Y4mi had the exact same ranger do the exact same thing to him in the exact same spot! Full health and dogging the ranger and he got close and just 1 hit him with the shotgun perk
are cobalt loose trousers not that good? i always thought the pen could be useful but no one uses them. also there REALLY needs to be more options than loose trousers. i dunno how iron mace hasnt buffed other stuff and nerfed trousers. barbuta also is massively irrelevant and i wish it wasnt
I feel like this game needs do more with the gear score brackets
first bracket: all white gear. rewards green gear and jewelry
second bracket: all green gear, cape and jewelry. rewards blue gear
third bracket: all blue gear. rewards purple gear
fourth bracket: all purple gear. rewards legendary gear
fifth bracket: all legendary gear. rewards ???
Maybe it is higher drop rates in the brackets that they have, and I just haven't noticed. However if not, this could really bring some purpose to putting on better gear. Wearing good gear simply to fight better players is starting to bore me.
can i play with this with just squire gears?
25 -124-125+ gear score , its out ? they will patch it ? cause that is a great idea .
yeah its already here
@@Firebox720 thank u very much.
Were you always able to recover single use skills with campfires?
unsure on all of skills, but for every playtest i can remember past recoverable health being introduced you can recover second wind through camping, id imagine its the same with other limited skills, but i havent tested/experienced that first hand
@@hex9814 yea I was wondering for like caltrops and smoke bomb for trolling but good info
@@gronkistI’m not sure, look underneath the skill though. There would be a small little black bar that fills up white when you camp fire and when it’s full you get the skill back. You can see it under 2nd wind but not sprint in this video
2nd wind used to take 2 grey/white campfires but now it’s just 1 grey.
Why not a sword in off hand with sword mastery for a +2dmg on the rondel?
You move slower and speed is king on this game.
You mentioned, at 52s of the video, that with the nerf with the true damage right now, combo attack is a lot better. Im kinda new to the game, what were the nerfs to true damage? Isnt it added at the end of all damage?
it used to stack higher before the wipe. +2 on rings for example. Now you can't get as much per slot
That cleric is the hero we need 🤣
is this build viable in squire gear?
@@whateverdude_ No its not
Why swing the rondel over the steleto? Just wondering
Stiletto does more dps but he might just be more use to rondel. It’s also a bit easier animation to hit people consistently.
Ty
crusador helm gives more stats and has good pdr no mdr reduction. must run imo for this build.
also my suggestion for cloak is cloak of darkness you can get 5 move speed cloaks pretty easily and even with good rolls like armor and true. best cloak for a lot of classes actually.
oh yea and for gloves i go light gauntlets or copper riveted ms is king in solo
Did they actually silently patch a 3rd lobby into normals?
Yes
I’m confused and maybe I’m the only one but how is this fair to rogue?? You have 40-50 more hp than the avg rogue, able to wield double dagger, and you gain a lot of MS with active abilities. If you play rogue is this even contestable?
@type1virus yes geared rogues have 70% armor pen and can kill a fighter in 3-4 stabs
@@Mark-wl2gn correct, but without spending 6k+ gold on a true phys kit this seems unkillable though. If both rogue and this kit were sub 25 gear score this would win 10/10 times no matter what the rogue does…
@@Mark-wl2gnkilling in 3-4 stabs is also a lie, it takes more. If they are as geared as you they do not die in 3-4 stabs lol
It isn’t. Stealth doesn’t do shit against 60% PDR on top of a 40% instant heal button so you just out trade and out dps by holding mouse 1.
Of course you’ll have some bozo call that a skill issue though
@@Mark-wl2gngeared fighter just second winds and trades two hits back to kill the rogue
you are seriously fucking good.
Even after u got shot gunned?
@@ttgleonidas1612 Well it's in the video
Damn I was hoping I didn't make it into the video, I played that fight so poorly 😭
Obviously very skilled play. It completely turns me off from the game though. D&D inspired setting but the bunny hopping and quick scope arrows and ability baiting and running is a snooze fest. Hope they make some improvements with things like massive movement reductions after jumping and turn speeds so you don’t have these Tourette’s fits to try and force shots into limbs for damage reduction.
Respect the skill though.
Eh bunny hop is part of the mechanics, keeps your momentum when you draw an arrow or cast a spell. They’d have to make it where jumping cancels all actions, which just lowers the skill ceiling for no reason.
The thing I dislike is how ranged heavy it is, the bow type he’s using makes the game boring, fighters/rangers/bards constantly spam it. It’s just run away or chase while poking with a low dmg weapon but it’s so much pressure you can really do anything about it unless the bow user completely fucks up
Every fighter video right now:
“THIS BUILD IS BROKEN”
The actual video:
Use survival now 90% of the time no matter what the rest of the build is
So?
@@Firebox720 just shows the current state of the game. It’s bunny hop kiting with bows, outside of cleric and rogues ganking, it’s all ranged. It’s not like back in the first and second alphas when people were melee fighting constantly and having good foot movement and spacing. Now it’s just poke poke poke poke, 1 melee hit when you know they die off the trade.
@@stealthyturtles I mean I agree, but it currently is what it is. It's been like this for a long time. It's why daggers are so important as well, because it allows instant swapping from your bow
thats why i only play duos Ice Brother. just sprint onto them, pull dagger and do it.
@@stealthyturtleslol people were fighting in melee in the alphas/play tests because they were bad as fuck, not because they had "good spacing" lmao
Lol, we just saw you and your same exact build on Dimos video,
@@aishtaealatalniyranfialsaqie Really? That's funny had no idea
@@Firebox720 said you were a coward for running from a no spell cleric lol
@@aishtaealatalniyranfialsaqie Cleric counters PDR fighter what a weird thing to say
Yeah dimo always comes out with similar build videos right after firebox. It’s odd…
@@Firebox720 Nah he didn't say coward, he said you don't take risks
What is the best fighter build for squire gear? Man i thibk you should do a guide series for under 25 gear score with all classes!
Edit: there is a shit ton of theorycrafting in this game just like wow and its a pain, i for one enjoy under 25 gear score because is pure skill
I bought dark and darker thinking the skill would always surpass gear (just like hunt showdown), i was fooled
Slayer 100% with one random green armor piece. Either run falcion with stiletto or arming and short sword. For range use surv bow or recurve. Use slayer,sword mastery,duel Weald,weapon mastery. If your using falcion you can opt for combo attack and use a crossbow and Castilian instead of weapon mastery but I don’t prefer it
Starting to sound insecure about internet comments recently. It's just a game, be confident you know more than youtube viewers.
lol watched u run away from dimo
OMG why the cleric +/- 10 minutes video , dont try to fight you??? Just run run ....
is there a reason why no one actually uses their secondary dagger when fighting?
he mentioned this briefly in the video, he's just using it as a "stat stick" meaning he only has it equipped to gain the stats on it, pretend it's a third ring :)
Daggers should be unusable for fighters.
no way man daggers are shit on anything but rogues most of the time u need to kite with recurve bcs ur melee trade is so underwhelming
shhh let him say its good, then everyone starts using this exact build. Easy kills
No, he can probably win the majority of these fights just by unga bungaing in.
The problem is consistency and tempo with threat of third party.
Why go in melee which will force you to heal and be a close fight when you can just be full health by spamming down with bow? Especially with the threat of third party right after.
Daggers have the highest dps aside from maybe felling axe. They definitely are top tier fighter weapon right now. A lot of the 2 handed weapons are dog shit if you get in their face too because they do drastically less damage when hitting with the hilt. Plus your guaranteed to be slower than the fighter with daggers so they will just get in your face and out dps you.
He kites with his bow because the objective in fighting people is to kill your opponent while taking the least amount of damage possible because there’s always a chance of a 3rd party showing up when your hp is lower. Also because survival bow now is good for keeping people from running from you with it’s on hit slow.
I hate this as a concept