One other thing that matters in cables is flexibility. Cheap cables generally very stiff especially in cold conditions. Good cables are a pleasure to work with and lie flat when used.
So good, so funny... What can I say? Best entertainment with facts on the freakin' internet. Sure, I watch your videos for the reviews and info, but I also watch it for the pure entertainment. And I don't need a Netflix subscription!! Thank you.
Interesting! as a radio amateur I found using expensive cables on 2M (145MHZ) an excellent means of hearing the weakest signals, as it helped getting them out of the noise, instead of using standard (cheap) RG58 cable, I was using LDF5-50 (copper tubing!) which is like an inch thick compared to the 5mm, the losses on the thin cable were huge, but the copper tube type LDF was incredible with minimum losses, I had no idea that the XLR cables we use would be similar in regard to signals. You've opened my eyes sir.
@@TheRecordist wot? Really? CB or radio amateur? I was first active on CB in the 80’s and didn’t radio until 2003 when I got my tickets, was mad keen on it and annoyed local hams with calling for horizontal FM contacts 200 miles away while they were stuck with line of sight comms.. one chap was 250 miles away and we used to chat nearly every day, didn’t matter about conditions really, the signals were mad QSB but that made it more interesting and fun. When I get obsessed with something I really get into bad. It’s all been electromagnetic frequency stuff until I figured out the audio spectrum! Photography and radio are basically the same thing - our eyes are broad band radio receivers 🤔👀
yep, cables do matter, but there can be considerations other than quality and price as well For instance, I used to do a lot of holiday style DXpeditioning, and with space and weight limitations on flights seldom allowed me to take anything thicker or heavier than RG58 :) Even H55 was problematic as it was less flexible to roll up into a small package :) 73 DE HA5XA / WW1WWW
@@ww1www I own a ham radio. I almost took the test. Studied and everything. But I got too busy with this channel. I could take the time to properly give it time. One day I’ll do it!
That’s a good question. I hadn’t seen those but I’m curious about them. Generally its Mogami that makes the cables and Neutrik that makes the connectors. It’s the various companies that solder them together and market their product as theirs. I wonder how Lyx Pro does theirs?
Hell yah build us some mic cables. Be a good gasser and pass the cables. By the way, I'm in the US and attempting to purchase the resistor load was interrupted by Canadian only pricing eh. Surprised I was. This was a great video. Nice work so have an ale. May your new year have an overall feeling that someone is trying to tell you something.
Hahahahaha. I laughed way too hard at this. Hahaha. My apologies for the Canadian pricing. I’ve since changed that. It’s in USD now. It should have been anyway. Thanks for catching that! Cheers!
Very much enjoy your videos. Have previously soldered my own patch and mike cables. I always used Neutrik connectors but in hindsight didn't always use absolutely the best. Must find a good supplier for bulk Mogami Quad 2534 as I don't like prescribed lengths 1,2,5 and 10m I prefer just long enough with a small margin for error/flexibility.
Hey thanks! I’m in Canada. I found a place (Studio Economik) that will sell me loose cable at any length pre-cut or by the roll. That’s 2534 cable at about $1.70 Canadian (about $1.28 USD) per foot. www.economik.com/mogami/w2534-4c-24awg-neglex-quad-mic-cable-price-per-foot/ And the Neutrik connectors from the same place are about $6 each when bought individually. That’s a cheap cable.
Hey man Love your video. I agreed with you on this 100%, I always like high end quality cables over cheap ones, even though most ppl said "oh why did you spend $100 on an audio cable, you just wasted your money". I'm using the Mogami Quad XLR cables as well, really good stuff.
Well, if you have a decent budget, I would recommend the K-Tek, Ambient, or Panamic poles. Each are quite costly. Try to get carbon fiber if you can, because anything else gets mighty heavy after a while. It depends on how long you need it to be. Rode has some cheap ones, and so does Andoer on Amazon, but you will likely want to upgrade as the longevity is questionable. I prefer external cables as it takes considerable skill to keep an internal cable boom pole quiet. If you need something like 10 feet and you need it quickly and you don’t have much money, then the Andoer carbon fiber one on Amazon is ok. It’ll get the job done but I’m not sure how long it’ll last. Hope this helps!
1:35 Pun aside, Mogami also make the Platinum series, more up-market which I believe starts at 110USD. Yeah, not cheap. What is baffling is that the Platinum cable is a simple balanced cable whereas the Gold is a quad cable. Admittedly the Platinum is significantly beefier although often that property (or properties more precisely) by itself often means little when considered as a factor for audio performance. On the price issues: while 110USD is a considerable amount and I guess many musicians would consider that extreme, for audio hi-fi enthusiasts it is a perfectly acceptable (dare I say, starting?) price. How can that be, one might ask, that the person who creates the music spends less on the same equipment than the person who just listens to that same music? Go figure... but it is an interesting question none-the-less.
@@TheRecordist hmmm the easy answer to this is because one simply has neither enough money nor enough information. The former is needed in order to acquire what cables claim to be the best: some cost as much as one's dream system and that's for a single pair. The latter is needed in order to differentiate between all those cables that equally claim to be the best. In short, if one aims to obtain the best available simply by paying up what is asked, then this is a sure way to spend many sleepless nights. The golden mean is to strive for what is good enough - and there are many available examples of that.
Further to the above I've just read that some consider the double pair cables intrinsically inferior sonically to single pair cables. I guess the reason would be their higher capacitance. They therefore relegate the former to situations where high levels of electrical noise (interference) make signal transmission problematic.
Well, that’s a good question. I aim to do some interfaces in the next couple of months but not too sure. The monitors, however, are not anytime soon. I’d need to buy them since no one so far has sent me anything to review. I just review what I buy myself.
@@TheRecordist I hope someday to get IK Multimedia iLoud MTM as they're the only reasonably priced audio monitors that have a calibration feature to adjust the frequency response for the particular room. They're pretty compact too yet their bass is better than any 5 inch studio monitors I've heard. I don't have any monitors though and using headphones (planar ones from Dan Clark Audio, they're incredible).
@@VladK-1 oh yes. Those iLoud MTM monitors look fantastic. Expensive for IK, but they seem to be well loved. Those are also great headphones. Seems like you know what you’re doing, Vlad!
Actually I can! I just picked up three of the really nice in-house WBC braided XLR cables. Super nice cables. I’ll be doing a review about them very soon!
@@TheRecordist you rock!!! I need 100 foot cable and I don’t feel like dropping $400 on 2 Mogami cables, it seems that WBC are really pushing their new in house WBC Pro cables going as far stating they’re better than Mogami btw LynxPro has a Quad now as well. Same price point as the WBC Pro.
@@dj2big thanks! I can’t tell you this. The in-house WBC quad cables are sublime. I’m not sure how much better than Mogami gold they are. They’re at the very least the same, which means they’re fantastic cables. I have a 50 foot WBC in-house XLR cable and there’s zero noise. Zero interference. Zero signal loss, that I could detect. Don’t wait for my review. Get them!
@@yiqwaba3833 hey. No, sorry, I do not make high or low pass filters. To be honest, I barely make these dummy loads. Haha. I needed some so I learned how to make them.
Love your sense of humor, Chip! great content today, as usual
I appreciate that! Thank you!
One other thing that matters in cables is flexibility. Cheap cables generally very stiff especially in cold conditions. Good cables are a pleasure to work with and lie flat when used.
Yes. That’s a great point!
So good, so funny... What can I say? Best entertainment with facts on the freakin' internet. Sure, I watch your videos for the reviews and info, but I also watch it for the pure entertainment. And I don't need a Netflix subscription!! Thank you.
Hahaha. Thanks so much! That’s very kind of you! I really appreciate the awesome compliments! Thanks for watching!
Interesting! as a radio amateur I found using expensive cables on 2M (145MHZ) an excellent means of hearing the weakest signals, as it helped getting them out of the noise, instead of using standard (cheap) RG58 cable, I was using LDF5-50 (copper tubing!) which is like an inch thick compared to the 5mm, the losses on the thin cable were huge, but the copper tube type LDF was incredible with minimum losses, I had no idea that the XLR cables we use would be similar in regard to signals. You've opened my eyes sir.
Hahaha thanks! I used to be into radio a bit myself back in the early 90s!
@@TheRecordist wot? Really? CB or radio amateur?
I was first active on CB in the 80’s and didn’t radio until 2003 when I got my tickets, was mad keen on it and annoyed local hams with calling for horizontal FM contacts 200 miles away while they were stuck with line of sight comms.. one chap was 250 miles away and we used to chat nearly every day, didn’t matter about conditions really, the signals were mad QSB but that made it more interesting and fun. When I get obsessed with something I really get into bad. It’s all been electromagnetic frequency stuff until I figured out the audio spectrum! Photography and radio are basically the same thing - our eyes are broad band radio receivers 🤔👀
@@TheRecordist Being a fan of yours on RUclips I would have had a bet on you having toyed with radios. You sure look and sound like a radio ham. :)
yep, cables do matter, but there can be considerations other than quality and price as well For instance, I used to do a lot of holiday style DXpeditioning, and with space and weight limitations on flights seldom allowed me to take anything thicker or heavier than RG58 :) Even H55 was problematic as it was less flexible to roll up into a small package :) 73 DE HA5XA / WW1WWW
@@ww1www I own a ham radio. I almost took the test. Studied and everything. But I got too busy with this channel. I could take the time to properly give it time. One day I’ll do it!
I cannot help it. I just listen to your video's because you are so entertaining 😂 I only missed the measurement tool story... Really! 😄
Haha. Thanks so much!
It would be interesting to compare Lyx Pro quad cables to that Mogami. Would "budget" quad cable compare more favorably to the world's best quad?
That’s a good question. I hadn’t seen those but I’m curious about them. Generally its Mogami that makes the cables and Neutrik that makes the connectors. It’s the various companies that solder them together and market their product as theirs. I wonder how Lyx Pro does theirs?
i would like to see this too, iv heard some positive things about lyx quad but nothing comprehensive enough
Hell yah build us some mic cables. Be a good gasser and pass the cables. By the way, I'm in the US and attempting to purchase the resistor load was interrupted by Canadian only pricing eh. Surprised I was. This was a great video. Nice work so have an ale. May your new year have an overall feeling that someone is trying to tell you something.
Hahahahaha. I laughed way too hard at this. Hahaha.
My apologies for the Canadian pricing. I’ve since changed that. It’s in USD now. It should have been anyway. Thanks for catching that! Cheers!
Love it. Funny and informative! Thanks!!!
Haha. You’re welcome! Cheers!
Very much enjoy your videos. Have previously soldered my own patch and mike cables. I always used Neutrik connectors but in hindsight didn't always use absolutely the best. Must find a good supplier for bulk Mogami Quad 2534 as I don't like prescribed lengths 1,2,5 and 10m
I prefer just long enough with a small margin for error/flexibility.
Hey thanks! I’m in Canada. I found a place (Studio Economik) that will sell me loose cable at any length pre-cut or by the roll. That’s 2534 cable at about $1.70 Canadian (about $1.28 USD) per foot. www.economik.com/mogami/w2534-4c-24awg-neglex-quad-mic-cable-price-per-foot/
And the Neutrik connectors from the same place are about $6 each when bought individually. That’s a cheap cable.
For sharing discovery of Vermouth 2ndborn
Cables, thanks!
Excited for the review. Maybe even compare the mogami cables. 😊❤
Thank you very much! Cheers!
Hey man Love your video. I agreed with you on this 100%, I always like high end quality cables over cheap ones, even though most ppl said "oh why did you spend $100 on an audio cable, you just wasted your money". I'm using the Mogami Quad XLR cables as well, really good stuff.
Hey thanks! And yep! We agree!
What you suggest as a boom pole solution. I mean I am quick in time and I need boom pole. I do not want to pay twice. Have got an mke600 and zoom h5.
Well, if you have a decent budget, I would recommend the K-Tek, Ambient, or Panamic poles. Each are quite costly. Try to get carbon fiber if you can, because anything else gets mighty heavy after a while.
It depends on how long you need it to be. Rode has some cheap ones, and so does Andoer on Amazon, but you will likely want to upgrade as the longevity is questionable. I prefer external cables as it takes considerable skill to keep an internal cable boom pole quiet.
If you need something like 10 feet and you need it quickly and you don’t have much money, then the Andoer carbon fiber one on Amazon is ok. It’ll get the job done but I’m not sure how long it’ll last. Hope this helps!
1:35 Pun aside, Mogami also make the Platinum series, more up-market which I believe starts at 110USD. Yeah, not cheap. What is baffling is that the Platinum cable is a simple balanced cable whereas the Gold is a quad cable. Admittedly the Platinum is significantly beefier although often that property (or properties more precisely) by itself often means little when considered as a factor for audio performance.
On the price issues: while 110USD is a considerable amount and I guess many musicians would consider that extreme, for audio hi-fi enthusiasts it is a perfectly acceptable (dare I say, starting?) price. How can that be, one might ask, that the person who creates the music spends less on the same equipment than the person who just listens to that same music? Go figure... but it is an interesting question none-the-less.
Hahaha. I’ve got a lot of expensive cables. Some are noticeably better. Some are not. But why not feel comfortable knowing it’s the best you can get?
@@TheRecordist hmmm the easy answer to this is because one simply has neither enough money nor enough information. The former is needed in order to acquire what cables claim to be the best: some cost as much as one's dream system and that's for a single pair. The latter is needed in order to differentiate between all those cables that equally claim to be the best. In short, if one aims to obtain the best available simply by paying up what is asked, then this is a sure way to spend many sleepless nights. The golden mean is to strive for what is good enough - and there are many available examples of that.
Further to the above I've just read that some consider the double pair cables intrinsically inferior sonically to single pair cables. I guess the reason would be their higher capacitance. They therefore relegate the former to situations where high levels of electrical noise (interference) make signal transmission problematic.
Thanks for the enlighten
Anytime! Cheers!
When are you doing comparisons on interfaces and studio monitors?
Well, that’s a good question. I aim to do some interfaces in the next couple of months but not too sure. The monitors, however, are not anytime soon. I’d need to buy them since no one so far has sent me anything to review. I just review what I buy myself.
@@TheRecordist I hope someday to get IK Multimedia iLoud MTM as they're the only reasonably priced audio monitors that have a calibration feature to adjust the frequency response for the particular room. They're pretty compact too yet their bass is better than any 5 inch studio monitors I've heard. I don't have any monitors though and using headphones (planar ones from Dan Clark Audio, they're incredible).
@@VladK-1 oh yes. Those iLoud MTM monitors look fantastic. Expensive for IK, but they seem to be well loved. Those are also great headphones. Seems like you know what you’re doing, Vlad!
I enjoy your reviews.
Can you update this to their new in house Worlds Best Cables.
Actually I can! I just picked up three of the really nice in-house WBC braided XLR cables. Super nice cables. I’ll be doing a review about them very soon!
@@TheRecordist you rock!!! I need 100 foot cable and I don’t feel like dropping $400 on 2 Mogami cables, it seems that WBC are really pushing their new in house WBC Pro cables going as far stating they’re better than Mogami btw LynxPro has a Quad now as well. Same price point as the WBC Pro.
@@dj2big thanks! I can’t tell you this. The in-house WBC quad cables are sublime. I’m not sure how much better than Mogami gold they are. They’re at the very least the same, which means they’re fantastic cables. I have a 50 foot WBC in-house XLR cable and there’s zero noise. Zero interference. Zero signal loss, that I could detect.
Don’t wait for my review. Get them!
I would stay with WBC. They are really proud of their products. I talked to the founder. Totally infatuated with cables. They know their stuff!
@@TheRecordist wow!!! Ok I am ordering today! Thanks. I currently run all Mogami but this would save me tons.
I just bought the Røde xlr color cables and men sound better than mogami I don’t know why and I own mogami and I love mogami
Really? That’s crazy. I’ll have to check them out!
Has something to do with the shielding. The Rode ones are Canare cables and the shielding is different (Wrapped Shield vs Braided).
😂😂😂😂 You’re the best!
Haha thanks! You’re not too shabby yourself! 😜
Is the doomy load good to connect a condenser mic to?
Hey there. No. Imagine it as a dynamic microphone without a capsule to pick up sounds. It’s good for testing cables and preamps.
@@TheRecordist that's very creative, do you make high low pass filters? I will order.
@@yiqwaba3833 hey. No, sorry, I do not make high or low pass filters. To be honest, I barely make these dummy loads. Haha. I needed some so I learned how to make them.
Let's see analysis plus please!
Analysis plus? Man, it’s been a while since I shot this review. Remind me! Haha
Boy, did you look young in 69!
Why thank you kindly! Haha