I moved from v1 98 to v2 98 Clash and I love it! Had Wilson not stiffened up the 98 I might of moved onto a different model. The all red looks better also! Thanks Wilson
I finally thought Wilson had figured it out by offering the Version 1 Clash, and then V2 came out and Wilson is back to their old habits. Wilson has plenty of stiffer offerings in several of its other racquet lines, why kill the only flexible line they have? If they want to make a single model Tour version that is stiff to attract a tour player so be it. Otherwise, why not get one of their pros to play a paint job like a lot of their (and others companies) other pros? I left Wilson behind after they stiffened the Blade 104 after the 2015 version from 57 RA to 66 RA. Prince figured it out with the Phantom line, Head figured it out with their Gravity line, and Babolat….well I am pretty sure they are on the payroll of an orthopedic surgeon association or maybe it was part of the deal with Pro Kennex on the Pure Drive to keep PK in business for ex-Babolat users recovering from TE. As for me, I will stick with the Head Microgel Radical OS with its mid 50’s RA. Still being produced, easily modifiable, great price, and plenty of comfortable power available.
@@cold_servo_pie , never said it wasn’t similar in flex to the V2 in some models, just appreciate Head creating a line with lower stiffness than their traditional lines, just like I appreciated Wilson when they created the Clash line. What I do not appreciate is Wilson starting the stiffness creep up in V2 , which they have a history of doing in other lines. In a couple of generations the RA’s will be back in the mid 60’s.
@@ualtim i second your comments i hope the v2 has low sales in the stiffer models and they go back to mid 50s RA clashes or at least max 58 across the board
100% hopefully low sales in the 98 and 100 pro and 108 might make them revert back judging by the comments though it seems like it is blade users wanting a less stiff blade so get th =e clash instead ie the fake v2 clashes with 60 ra
I’m 68 and wanted something easy on the arm. Bought the 108 and love it. Has RPM Blast Black with 54# mains and 48# crosses. I hit heavy and this setup is great. Plenty of top spin and control. When I restring I’ll put Solinco Hyper-G 16L on. Great Poly.
To each his own. For me it turned out to be the best racket ive ever owned. (for someone who started with six.one.95 back in the 90s to Head Instinct MP later in life and then transitioning to Head Speed MP. Everyone loves the blade, but i could never play with it well.
Hi, I was using V1 98 and liked a Lot. But a bit of control was missing. When v2 came i wanted it cos tighter string pattern might do the trick -> better control ? Well after around 10h of playing v2, had to go back v1, it feels much better at least for me. Tried different strings, different tensions, but v2 didnt feel good.
@@cold_servo_pie I am not saying the V1 is better. The V2 is also a great racket. To my personal experience the V1 it is just the feel. Perhaps the new string pattern of the V2 can be the cause. I don’t know.
@@cold_servo_pie Well it feels more comfortable and also its easier to generate power, spin and depth with V1. Maybe because of stiffness .... and how the racquet bends ...
Did these changes make the Clashes more predictable? I read several reviews that found the Clash v1 played a bit 'weird' / 'unusual' and sometimes unpredictable, in a way. Is that "fixed" in v2?
@@WaltKurtz68 well they made it stiffer so it should be, the 100 went from 55 to 57 with little more stiffness at the top of the hoop so bigger sweetspot so seems an upgrade without sacrificng comfort
Harry the RA rating for the 108 is incorrect it was a 56 up to 63 so less than the 10 you said But surely those using it would notice the difference if people are complaining of the 98 and the pro going up just 4 points! Maybe it is just me because im taking a slightly bigger swing than the target market of older doubles players who take short swings so wont notice but i notice it severely as you would expect going up from 56 to 63!! How can people notice it on a pro from 55 to 59 but not on a 108 when it goes up nearly double in stiffness compared to the 98
Unfortunately I have not had a good experience with V2 100. Last year I bought one and I have been playing since of that, however I have never felt a hundred percent confortable to play with. Two weeks ago I changed to Ezone 100 and even it has RA highest than V2, I am felling better to play. It looks that I use less effort to attack the ball. So I hope to help some possible players evaluation.
I already switched to Blade 104 v8, but I am a "racquet-holic" so I take an interest in these things. [EDIT] Correction: change "Switched to" to "Added to my bag". I don't SWITCH TO new racquets anymore. That would mean that I don't use my previous racquets from then on. And that's not going to happen.
Version 1 was fine if you knew how to hit heavy topspin. Unfortunately it ate strings like there was no tomorrow. Had to give it up, couldn't afford to string it every four hitting sessions, using fifteen gauge poly. Great feeling racket, too expensive to keep using.
I've just discovered your channel. I love it! Very informative and entertaining as well. I'm a 51 year-old man and play 3 times a week. I've been using my old Wilson Reflex from the 80s but would like an upgrade. I'm 6' 1" 250 lbs. Play doubles mainly. If I could have your recommendation, I'd be happy to purchase from you (if you ship to Iowa) Thanks!!
I don't get it with getting a player signed up for Clash, they would want a pro stock Clash, so could almost use any stick from Wilson as long as it looks like a Clash,
I've played with the Clash Pro (mine are tours) since day 1. The reason I detest the v2 pro has nothing to do with a couple points of stiffness (it's largely unnoticeable to be perfectly honest) and everything to do with a drastically lower launch angle. I get power and spin with the v1. I've got to choose power OR spin with the v2 with each stroke. It normally wouldn't be a big deal for me to continue playing with the v1 and buying up whatever stock is left, but I'm a Wilson ad staff teaching pro and it's difficult to push the v2s when I, myself, insist on sticking with the v1. It's just a total bummer. My last attempt at the v2 will be weighting up a v2 100 to the exact spec of my current v1 tour and hoping it plays somewhere close to similar.
For Pete's sake. Everything under 60 is soft, not to mention that most racquets will drop 2 or 3 points in stiffness after they are strung. Makes me wonder if the people complaining bothered to look at the numbers before they made the purchase.
Actually, I chose not to buy a new Clash 108 v2 because the 63 RA was too high. I currently play with a Head MicoGel Radical Oversize with a 56 RA (the dense 18 x 19 string pattern makes it feel stiffer) and do not want a racquet with a 63 RA as they have bothered my elbow. Also, I am not wild about the even balance of the Clash 108 and would probably put on a leather grip to make it heavier and slightly head light. I also think that a price of $269 is too high since I tend to buy racquets in pairs. Due to my elbow issues, the highest RA I want in a racquet is 60.
@@LonglongFeng Yes. I could give up the 1hbh topspin backhand and only hit slice or flat as that might help my elbow issues. But, I really only have arm issues when I mis-hit the ball.
I had the old 98 v2 version and it was a nice racquet up to about 80 percent swing effort then I had no idea what was going to happen. The feel and control just fell apart into complete uncontrollable mush. Be interested to see if new one has solved that.
Version 1 had zero control no matter what you did to it. So, how could anyone not notice the difference????? It was like a box of chocolates, you never knew what you were going to get. Lol.
@@charlesfaure1189 no, it's fairly established at this point that high level swings with a clash v1 result in ball getting lost in the swing to an uncomfortable degree because of its unique flex. The clash v1 was a racket made to compromise performance in order to cater to a loud beginner and intermediate user base complaining about high stiffness rackets like a pure drive but ultimately wanted the performance one. But high level players almost always, if they use a tweener, who use a pure aero,pure drive, vcore 100, ezone 100 and so on and so forth. Not a clash. You get more control over your swing with even a pure drive if the swing is a high level. Not only that, you get easier spin, easier pace, more shot predictability. Just better in almost every area. But they require a more resistant arm to injury and better fundamentals if the arm is a concern. That's not to say that there aren't people out there of a high level who do use and love it.
@@louiselouboutin9045 I'd say be design yes. Comfort at the expense of some performance. At higher levels with decent fundamentals that effective comfort, so not necessarily the immediate feeling, is going to come from solid fundamentals and timing and even things like silicone or whatever in the handle, along with decent effective mass on the stringbed in the area you make contact with the ball (hitting weight, which is not the same as actual mass of the racket). The more the racket wins the battle of ball Vs racket the better for comfort, and even things like power and control. A pure drive per its weight class is excellent at that but its high vibrations counter that, but it can be made more comfortable with the above (along with string and tension choices if needed). Recoil weight another big factor. The higher the value the more energy if you like is being transferred into the ball rather than your arm. Generally, if you're using a light racket, the higher value will come from polarising it, and this can be substituted with mass with heavier rackets. Using a light spec all over though will increase chances of problems, so very light static along with very low swing weight etc, but this doesn't mean it will result in problems. A Clash helps that more vulnerable user base, or even those that just want a softer feel out of the box for whatever reason but with some modern tweener performance.
@@RossBayCult what does that have to do with buying his own coffee. The guy lives in San Francisco. I think he’s got money to buy his own coffee. Your comment maybe misplaced.
@@b12deficient24 do I? Didn’t notice. But anyway you’re right. I just can’t stand it. This racket is nightmare for me. I don’t say the racket is bad, I just can’t use it
@@charlesfaure1189 I enjoy playing with Vcore 98, which as you probably know made for spin too. Clash doesn’t have control at all to me, yes it’s meant for spin, but not only clash. Clash bends so much that sometimes I just don’t understand where the ball is going. I feel like the racket is brocken. Sometimes I try to hit with spin, but for some reasons the ball flys on me. And I don’t understand what I’ve done wrong. There is no such a problem with other spin rackets. And extra cross string didn’t help. I think there are no pros or any caliber of serious tour players playing with Clash for a reason. Nobody even wants to have clash cosmetics
I moved from v1 98 to v2 98 Clash and I love it! Had Wilson not stiffened up the 98 I might of moved onto a different model. The all red looks better also! Thanks Wilson
The red is putrid but to each their own ;)
Recently started to play tennis again, bought the V2 100 pro. I don’t have a comparison to V1 but it’s a great racket. 310g feels like 280g
I finally thought Wilson had figured it out by offering the Version 1 Clash, and then V2 came out and Wilson is back to their old habits. Wilson has plenty of stiffer offerings in several of its other racquet lines, why kill the only flexible line they have? If they want to make a single model Tour version that is stiff to attract a tour player so be it. Otherwise, why not get one of their pros to play a paint job like a lot of their (and others companies) other pros? I left Wilson behind after they stiffened the Blade 104 after the 2015 version from 57 RA to 66 RA. Prince figured it out with the Phantom line, Head figured it out with their Gravity line, and Babolat….well I am pretty sure they are on the payroll of an orthopedic surgeon association or maybe it was part of the deal with Pro Kennex on the Pure Drive to keep PK in business for ex-Babolat users recovering from TE. As for me, I will stick with the Head Microgel Radical OS with its mid 50’s RA. Still being produced, easily modifiable, great price, and plenty of comfortable power available.
@@cold_servo_pie , never said it wasn’t similar in flex to the V2 in some models, just appreciate Head creating a line with lower stiffness than their traditional lines, just like I appreciated Wilson when they created the Clash line. What I do not appreciate is Wilson starting the stiffness creep up in V2 , which they have a history of doing in other lines. In a couple of generations the RA’s will be back in the mid 60’s.
@@ualtim i second your comments i hope the v2 has low sales in the stiffer models and they go back to mid 50s RA clashes or at least max 58 across the board
100% hopefully low sales in the 98 and 100 pro and 108 might make them revert back
judging by the comments though it seems like it is blade users wanting a less stiff blade so get th =e clash instead ie the fake v2 clashes with 60 ra
I’m 68 and wanted something easy on the arm. Bought the 108 and love it. Has RPM Blast Black with 54# mains and 48# crosses. I hit heavy and this setup is great. Plenty of top spin and control. When I restring I’ll put Solinco Hyper-G 16L on. Great Poly.
@@cyh5543 no I did not. Had the Blade and Hammer 5.3 and prefer the v2 Clash. Bought 2.
@@cyh5543 not only but Wilson etched my name on the throat.
demoed the v2 100 and the firmness is definitely noticeable to me. it felt more like a blade. but i liked what they did with this v2. has more control
do you find the v2 100 feels stiffer than the v1 100?
To each his own. For me it turned out to be the best racket ive ever owned. (for someone who started with six.one.95 back in the 90s to Head Instinct MP later in life and then transitioning to Head Speed MP.
Everyone loves the blade, but i could never play with it well.
Did anyone switch from a 100 V1 to 100 V2? Would love to know your experience
Hi, I was using V1 98 and liked a Lot. But a bit of control was missing. When v2 came i wanted it cos tighter string pattern might do the trick -> better control ? Well after around 10h of playing v2, had to go back v1, it feels much better at least for me. Tried different strings, different tensions, but v2 didnt feel good.
Had exactly the same experience. Same story to me. Plus, loved the design of V1 much more. But that is just personal and subjective.
Same here!!
@@cold_servo_pie I am not saying the V1 is better. The V2 is also a great racket. To my personal experience the V1 it is just the feel. Perhaps the new string pattern of the V2 can be the cause. I don’t know.
@@cold_servo_pie Well it feels more comfortable and also its easier to generate power, spin and depth with V1. Maybe because of stiffness .... and how the racquet bends ...
Still using my v1 Clash 98 .. no reason for a change whatsoever
Did these changes make the Clashes more predictable? I read several reviews that found the Clash v1 played a bit 'weird' / 'unusual' and sometimes unpredictable, in a way. Is that "fixed" in v2?
Yes
@@fingersm Thanks. This is from personal experience ?
@@WaltKurtz68 well they made it stiffer so it should be, the 100 went from 55 to 57 with little more stiffness at the top of the hoop so bigger sweetspot so seems an upgrade without sacrificng comfort
Can we have an update on this topic. I still like the old 98. what are you hearing
new 98 performs bit better but more stiff so uncomfortable
Harry the RA rating for the 108 is incorrect it was a 56 up to 63 so less than the 10 you said
But surely those using it would notice the difference if people are complaining of the 98 and the pro going up just 4 points!
Maybe it is just me because im taking a slightly bigger swing than the target market of older doubles players who take short swings so wont notice but i notice it severely as you would expect going up from 56 to 63!!
How can people notice it on a pro from 55 to 59 but not on a 108 when it goes up nearly double in stiffness compared to the 98
Unfortunately I have not had a good experience with V2 100. Last year I bought one and I have been playing since of that, however I have never felt a hundred percent confortable to play with. Two weeks ago I changed to Ezone 100 and even it has RA highest than V2, I am felling better to play. It looks that I use less effort to attack the ball. So I hope to help some possible players evaluation.
I already switched to Blade 104 v8, but I am a "racquet-holic" so I take an interest in these things.
[EDIT] Correction: change "Switched to" to "Added to my bag". I don't SWITCH TO new racquets anymore. That would mean that I don't use my previous racquets from then on. And that's not going to happen.
Version 1 was fine if you knew how to hit heavy topspin. Unfortunately it ate strings like there was no tomorrow. Had to give it up, couldn't afford to string it every four hitting sessions, using fifteen gauge poly. Great feeling racket, too expensive to keep using.
do you hit that hard you break 15 gauge poly?
98 v2 is nice! Added weight to get it to about 11.8 ounces. Its supersoft compared to a speed or a radical or an exstreme
Your older video said "this one is better"!???
I've just discovered your channel. I love it! Very informative and entertaining as well. I'm a 51 year-old man and play 3 times a week. I've been using my old Wilson Reflex from the 80s but would like an upgrade. I'm 6' 1" 250 lbs. Play doubles mainly. If I could have your recommendation, I'd be happy to purchase from you (if you ship to Iowa) Thanks!!
Prostaff 97 (the one that I think is 11.1 oz unstrung) or blade 98 16x19
Get a Yonex Ezone 100 2022
either an ezone or a blade (or even a head speed) would work
I don't get it with getting a player signed up for Clash, they would want a pro stock Clash, so could almost use any stick from Wilson as long as it looks like a Clash,
My strings breaks faster in wilson clash v2 than on v1, does anybody here has the same problem?
Just picked up a 100 V2 and will see how it feels. Came from a Liquid Metal Radical OS.
I've played with the Clash Pro (mine are tours) since day 1. The reason I detest the v2 pro has nothing to do with a couple points of stiffness (it's largely unnoticeable to be perfectly honest) and everything to do with a drastically lower launch angle. I get power and spin with the v1. I've got to choose power OR spin with the v2 with each stroke.
It normally wouldn't be a big deal for me to continue playing with the v1 and buying up whatever stock is left, but I'm a Wilson ad staff teaching pro and it's difficult to push the v2s when I, myself, insist on sticking with the v1. It's just a total bummer. My last attempt at the v2 will be weighting up a v2 100 to the exact spec of my current v1 tour and hoping it plays somewhere close to similar.
is it due to change of string pattern in the v2?
the increase of ra from 55 to 60 is massive though
For Pete's sake. Everything under 60 is soft, not to mention that most racquets will drop 2 or 3 points in stiffness after they are strung. Makes me wonder if the people complaining bothered to look at the numbers before they made the purchase.
the 59 and 60 clashes are not soft the 55 to 57 ones are they arent real clashes 59 and over
I love my clash v2 play with the 98 and the 100 pro 🤙
Actually, I chose not to buy a new Clash 108 v2 because the 63 RA was too high. I currently play with a Head MicoGel Radical Oversize with a 56 RA (the dense 18 x 19 string pattern makes it feel stiffer) and do not want a racquet with a 63 RA as they have bothered my elbow. Also, I am not wild about the even balance of the Clash 108 and would probably put on a leather grip to make it heavier and slightly head light. I also think that a price of $269 is too high since I tend to buy racquets in pairs. Due to my elbow issues, the highest RA I want in a racquet is 60.
are you one hand backhand?
@@LonglongFeng Yes. I could give up the 1hbh topspin backhand and only hit slice or flat as that might help my elbow issues. But, I really only have arm issues when I mis-hit the ball.
Did you have the clash v1 though?
@@cyh5543 I play tested it.
i dont know why they dont make 108's which are slightly more head light
I had the old 98 v2 version and it was a nice racquet up to about 80 percent swing effort then I had no idea what was going to happen. The feel and control just fell apart into complete uncontrollable mush. Be interested to see if new one has solved that.
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Version 1 had zero control no matter what you did to it. So, how could anyone not notice the difference????? It was like a box of chocolates, you never knew what you were going to get. Lol.
I've used it, it has plenty of control if you use it correctly. It's a spin racket and does very well if you know how to hit with plenty of topspin.
@@charlesfaure1189 no, it's fairly established at this point that high level swings with a clash v1 result in ball getting lost in the swing to an uncomfortable degree because of its unique flex. The clash v1 was a racket made to compromise performance in order to cater to a loud beginner and intermediate user base complaining about high stiffness rackets like a pure drive but ultimately wanted the performance one. But high level players almost always, if they use a tweener, who use a pure aero,pure drive, vcore 100, ezone 100 and so on and so forth. Not a clash. You get more control over your swing with even a pure drive if the swing is a high level. Not only that, you get easier spin, easier pace, more shot predictability. Just better in almost every area. But they require a more resistant arm to injury and better fundamentals if the arm is a concern.
That's not to say that there aren't people out there of a high level who do use and love it.
@@charlesfaure1189 exactly not for flat hitters lol
@@sjjapp so surely the clash is for people with tennis elbow not high level hitters
@@louiselouboutin9045 I'd say be design yes.
Comfort at the expense of some performance.
At higher levels with decent fundamentals that effective comfort, so not necessarily the immediate feeling, is going to come from solid fundamentals and timing and even things like silicone or whatever in the handle, along with decent effective mass on the stringbed in the area you make contact with the ball (hitting weight, which is not the same as actual mass of the racket). The more the racket wins the battle of ball Vs racket the better for comfort, and even things like power and control. A pure drive per its weight class is excellent at that but its high vibrations counter that, but it can be made more comfortable with the above (along with string and tension choices if needed).
Recoil weight another big factor. The higher the value the more energy if you like is being transferred into the ball rather than your arm. Generally, if you're using a light racket, the higher value will come from polarising it, and this can be substituted with mass with heavier rackets. Using a light spec all over though will increase chances of problems, so very light static along with very low swing weight etc, but this doesn't mean it will result in problems. A Clash helps that more vulnerable user base, or even those that just want a softer feel out of the box for whatever reason but with some modern tweener performance.
This guy is way too relaxed to be sponsored by a coffee company. 😂😂😂
Why so much tap on the fingers. From stringing? I don’t believe men our age are ripping skin off fingers with racket head speed, hehe.
That racket was way too mushy but I guess people liked it
yeah cos it is for people with tennis elbow what do you expect
Man, you can’t buy your own coffee?????
Right? Wasted space in the video, him talking about his damn coffee.
California has gotten out of control with their liberal policies. Taxes and inflation have gotten worse. Cost of living in blue states is criminal.
@@RossBayCult what does that have to do with buying his own coffee. The guy lives in San Francisco. I think he’s got money to buy his own coffee. Your comment maybe misplaced.
@@RossBayCult Then move to a red state. Good luck with that!!!!
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Among all rackets I hate* only one. Clash. Idk how people can play with it.
Lol, why do you hate on the Clash in every comment thread? What a strange life you must live...
Perhaps if you learn some topspin. That's what it's for.
@@b12deficient24 do I? Didn’t notice. But anyway you’re right. I just can’t stand it. This racket is nightmare for me. I don’t say the racket is bad, I just can’t use it
@@charlesfaure1189 I enjoy playing with Vcore 98, which as you probably know made for spin too. Clash doesn’t have control at all to me, yes it’s meant for spin, but not only clash. Clash bends so much that sometimes I just don’t understand where the ball is going. I feel like the racket is brocken. Sometimes I try to hit with spin, but for some reasons the ball flys on me. And I don’t understand what I’ve done wrong. There is no such a problem with other spin rackets. And extra cross string didn’t help. I think there are no pros or any caliber of serious tour players playing with Clash for a reason. Nobody even wants to have clash cosmetics
@@villiam7941 That's fair lol. It does seem like quite a polarizing racquet from what I've seen in reviews.
Wilson will have to discontinue this so called Clash. They are good for nothing.
discontinue the number 1 selling racket in the world in 2020 ?? they sold millions