i still remember when Kiriko cames out and most Paladins fans just said " they are friends" with Io her pet BUT a lot of OW people when Nyx came out just said its a cheap copy of Rammatra
The OW community doesn't understand that the Paladins devs start working on each champion 6 months before release and they still often have annoying bugs that have a huge impact on the gameplay.
You used to be able to hold both m1 and m2 on moji for high dps but now you have to wait a little before left clicking when marking someone to get the most dmg
@@thamontine Moji fires every 0,7 sec while applying one mark every 0,08 sec If you were to hold down both m1 and m2 you would hit enemies at around 8-9 marks wich can deal from 509-652 dmg But if you were to wait around 0,1 sec for the tenth mark to apply than your shot would deal 1000 dmg So for just around 0,1 sec of waiting you can get an around 350 or even a 500 dmg increase. Obviously Moji isn't as straight forward as many think as there are situations where you would want to detonate the mark early like finishing an enemy below 650 hp or trying to destroy a barrier or deployable
actually something interesting about that cage fight ultimate; in paladins' closed beta buck used to have an ultimate called "imprisonment" that created a giant ring of rock around wherever he casted it, trapping enemies, and giving him 50% damage reduction while inside the ring. if you go on the fan wiki and look up bucks removed content you can find a linked youtube video showcasing it! anyway, really nice video!
not to mention that characters in games who use a hook in a way similar to Roadhog and Makoa existed way before Roadhog and Makoa... I really, really never understood all the outrage around similar games
Arena of Valor has multiple heroes with a hook ability. But all are short range except for Grahk, who looks like a demon version of Roadhog. Also, all of them have a "Get over here!" voice line.
A dome that locks people pretty much was a Paladins ability early on the games life. Buck's ultimate trapped people in a small ring made of earthen walls, which was basically the same thing. They changed that years ago though
Overwatch was released before actually But Paladins was likely being worked on longer They didn't copy each other but are similar games in some ways nevertheless
paladins had player access to gameplay earlier, the closed beta released a year before in 2015, two months before overwatches closed beta. Either way, they both would have been in development for a while. @@itsjemmacakes
both games take inspiration from each other, thats just how it works in gamedev. neither fully copied the other, both just take ideas since they seem fun so who really cares
@@notanagger4861idk about that, but they were both inspired by TF2. Overwatch took the Hero switching mechanic while Paladins took a loadout system. You even had to collect the cards like you had to collect weapons in TF2, but it was too P2W.
Like with Roadhog and Makoa. when looking at D.Va and Ruckus, they are offensive mech based heros/champions, but play completely different, even when there abilities look very identical. Rockets, booster, dual weapons with low range.
im a paladins player at heart but been playing ow more this year , I think it would be awesome to have a paladins vs OW kinda like a marvel vs capcom or capcom vs SNK , bring all the characters into one universe , itd be so broken but so fun , having grover and ana on one team or buck and genji
Would be cool, i would love to see khan in overwatch yeet players off the map although i imagine his heal battlecry will be op I just realized how op the champions are even without their loadouts
ok i feel like its important to say : there are limited amount of mechanics that you can do in FPS game, though those things have similarities, and i 100% garantee any respectable gd will be playing competitor's game and take notes. None of this mechanics have anything extremely special about them to be a "clone".
another thing is that two games have different play style, Paladins prefers a more planned ahead style, building different decks for different effects on different champions, in game you get different items to buy to have different effects (although most casual players don't even know and just leave it on auto buy). OW doesn't have any customization on your character other than skins, but it change that by the fact that most of these characters were designed when the switching heroes were the main focus, so if you get hard countered, you don't have to stick to it. So even if one game tries to copy one another, it may not work on the grand scheme of that game.
Actually I'm pretty sure that Makoa bases his abilities on a Assault´s variant from Global Agenda, like many other Paladins characters, I also heard that Roadhog is very similar to Veteran from SMNC
mauga is based on the character from retribution event in overwatch 1, the heavy assault unit, apparently mauga was ready and he wass supposed to come out instead of sigma... that was on like 2017-2018
I mean, not really? They made a kit that was originally supposed to be mauga's, but they realized it didn't fit him, so they made sigma and gave it to him instead
honestly thi sounds the same as how league players say hanzo's ult from mobile legends is a copy of karma's skill that didn't even reached the beta test.
@@no.notfromRDR I would say it's different because in the archives event from 2018 there were heavy assault units with dual machine guns and a charge ability that you fight. There was also an exploit that let you play as it in pvp.
and then you realize that Mauga is just a bot from the old archives missions yeah that dude is either inspired by heavy from tf2 or just an overwatch original.
I appreciate you making this video and offering a more neutral approach. The two games fandoms have been at eachothers throats for years when in actuality they both take heavy insperation off of eachother (and other various forms of video games)
bro i’m a raum main tank on paladins and as soon as i started playing mauga i was convinced they’re basically the character. the weapons more of a mix of different weapons from paladins but mauga is just an earth realm raum
i moved to paladins and i am having time of my life, paladins maps feels so big and character skill customization i can keep playing my favorite character every time
I feel like the conversation that no one wants to have is the fact that neither of these games are particularly original, before Overwatch 2 came out the game had a 5% originality rate mechanically speaking (see Shammy's video on this subject, she made a whole spreadsheet). And tbh that's perfectly okay, firstly the games both have enough going for themselves to be considered their own games, it's not about what's in the games but how those mechanics and systems are combined to give the game its identity. Plus in my case being able to use my skills on Drogoz to learn Overwatch as a Pharah player made moving between the games feel more fun than confusing.
never noticed the similiarities to Moji and Raum tbh first thing i thought when seeing Mauga was just that his primary fire was like combining Heavy (for the miniguns, duh) with pyro (for the ability to set on fire/crit on fire) also, 2:46 if only raum also was CC immune while running T_T
I personally thought when i first saw his design in game he looked like a paladins character... and i will never unsee it lmao. His art or something just doesnt look like other overwatch characters idk what it is
Anytime I ask my friend to even TRY the game that is the go to. That it is a bootleg. Its not and I'm tired of people saying one is copying the other. They are different games.
Mauga's ultimate is really similar to an ultimate of a character named Akos Hu from the fighting game-inspired hero battle royale game Naraka Bladepoint.
you know what tilts me a little? is that mauga will be way better than raum solely because overwatch doesn't have anti-heal on every hero. seriously hi rez, why did they made a tank based on outhealing the opponent when they can completly stop your healing by shooting them?
1. Raum is bugged, anti-healing isn't supposed to affect Soul Armor. 2. CC is what makes him bad. If he was against a team with no CC, he would be free (which never happens).
You know that Raum's "heal" (which is actually over-health like mauga) doesn't get affect by cauterize right? He has multiple cards that heal his real heath based on the amount of over-health (or soul armor) he obtains. These card's healings are affected by cauterize, but his armor health gain will always be the same. It is a bug if the soul armor gain is affected by cauterize because it didn't do that before and there has been no patch note mention it, so it must be a bug.
I feel some of the new heroes use "paladins champion" design, not stealing abilities but instead of making a niche situational answer, they're giving heroes at least 2 options of optimal play. Can't say no one is stealing abilities tho. Hanzo rework, Nyx kit, bottom text.
I dont think its necessarily bad that Overwatch and Paladins sorta mimic each other, but I think for how much of a high profile game Overwatch is, it is ridiculous that the best Blizzard does is copy a charcter from another game, rather than do what the community actually ask like rebalancing and whatnot. Albeit they are trying to fix comp soon but, it is way too late for them to care now, now that most of the player base hates them and the game.
as a paladins players that heard for a long time that paladins is a cheap copy of overwatc, seeing an overwatch character being called out for having a similar kit to paladins characters makes me feel kinda happy bc now overwatch is being called a copy of paladins, but at teh same time i know that is not the case
Push in Overwatch has annoyed me since Siege in Paladins. Overwatch 2 turned into Paladins where Paladins was supposed to be the "rip off" it's been ahead of Overwatch in a few ways since before OW2 release.
Is it just me or does Mauga look nothing like an overwatch character? Like the first time i saw him i thought “who put a clash royale character in the game?”
i love both games if im feeling awful playing overwatchs current rank system I'd play from time to time in paladins both have similarities. Its not roadhog having a hook and mokoa also having a hook. There are also different games with hooks lets say pudge in dota 2 he has a hook and blitzcrank in league of legends he also has a hook but that does mean they're the same.
The comparasion between Mauga and Paladins champs is just dumb. They just have similar abilities. And there's plenty of characters in all games, all which have abilities. This is just dumb.
I don't know why giving a hero the ability to hook is a Roadhog copy, Overwatch didn't invent hooks... Also the recent patch in Overwatch was really underwhelming to me as a mainly Paladin player, because I felt like Sombra just became Skye with a teleport ,and the new hero will be a Raum with a "splash"... I see that early Paladins had much simularity with early Overwatch, but Overwatch promised soo much, yet they copy a game that has less then tenth of the budge and maybe half the playerbase...
I mean I've just started playing palidins as an long time overwatch degen and the majority of the abilities are similar or the same to overwatch just in driffent combination and roles
tbh i feel like palandins Is way better at this Point maybe to only me but i Always Felt like Paladins Feels more Fun they never really removed anything important the cosmetics dont cost a Kidney Its Just that ever since ow2 Came out with the changes And ect Paladins Always started to feel like my go to when i want PVP team action but that Just my opinion
What Really bummed me out of paladins is when they lost support for switch, i honestly perfer paladins over OW (bugs n all), i wish i could of played dredge a little longer
3:58 guess you could say he’s a emauganation
I KID YOU NOT I SAID THIS AND CUT IT OUT THINKING "man this joke isnt even that good no one would think its funny".
DAMMIT
@@thamontinetheres no way bro 💀
i still remember when Kiriko cames out and most Paladins fans just said " they are friends" with Io her pet
BUT a lot of OW people when Nyx came out just said its a cheap copy of Rammatra
Duality of fans...
No but seriously I just want people to enjoy things instead of being territorial over their game
Those were actually the CM on Twitter, fans still argue who invented what first to this very day
Love both games was actually on paladins first. But have to admit Nyx is walmart Ram
The OW community doesn't understand that the Paladins devs start working on each champion 6 months before release and they still often have annoying bugs that have a huge impact on the gameplay.
Tbh mauga is way more fun and smoother than raum
“It’s like having divorced parents” never thought of it that way. But true.
You used to be able to hold both m1 and m2 on moji for high dps but now you have to wait a little before left clicking when marking someone to get the most dmg
i do remember that...
is it more dps to wait for a full mark or to just explode the mark asap?
@@thamontine Moji fires every 0,7 sec while applying one mark every 0,08 sec
If you were to hold down both m1 and m2 you would hit enemies at around 8-9 marks wich can deal from 509-652 dmg
But if you were to wait around 0,1 sec for the tenth mark to apply than your shot would deal 1000 dmg
So for just around 0,1 sec of waiting you can get an around 350 or even a 500 dmg increase.
Obviously Moji isn't as straight forward as many think as there are situations where you would want to detonate the mark early like finishing an enemy below 650 hp or trying to destroy a barrier or deployable
@bonic7217 hey this was really helpful! Thank you!!
Yea she was bursting way too fast and too hard for it to be balanced so they slightly changed it
actually something interesting about that cage fight ultimate; in paladins' closed beta buck used to have an ultimate called "imprisonment" that created a giant ring of rock around wherever he casted it, trapping enemies, and giving him 50% damage reduction while inside the ring. if you go on the fan wiki and look up bucks removed content you can find a linked youtube video showcasing it!
anyway, really nice video!
OH WOW that I did not know that!!!
Thanks for the kind comment!
@@mikesimmerman4457 ....what is this comment. what am i reading?
I immediately thought of Raum when I first played as Mauga
not to mention that characters in games who use a hook in a way similar to Roadhog and Makoa existed way before Roadhog and Makoa... I really, really never understood all the outrage around similar games
HONESTLY!!
Like lets just chill and enjoy what we like...
Arena of Valor has multiple heroes with a hook ability. But all are short range except for Grahk, who looks like a demon version of Roadhog. Also, all of them have a "Get over here!" voice line.
A dome that locks people pretty much was a Paladins ability early on the games life. Buck's ultimate trapped people in a small ring made of earthen walls, which was basically the same thing. They changed that years ago though
omg this is exactly how i feel as someone who loves both games
youre so underrated
really good video quality too dude youre gonna make it big ik it
@@jester3272 ty ty ❤️
This made remember the time that overwatch came out so many people said paladins copied overwatch despite paladins being released first.
Old times
Overwatch was released before actually
But Paladins was likely being worked on longer
They didn't copy each other but are similar games in some ways nevertheless
paladins had player access to gameplay earlier, the closed beta released a year before in 2015, two months before overwatches closed beta. Either way, they both would have been in development for a while. @@itsjemmacakes
both games take inspiration from each other, thats just how it works in gamedev. neither fully copied the other, both just take ideas since they seem fun so who really cares
Paladins started development first, it took longer because Hi-rez didn't invest much into it.
@@notanagger4861idk about that, but they were both inspired by TF2. Overwatch took the Hero switching mechanic while Paladins took a loadout system. You even had to collect the cards like you had to collect weapons in TF2, but it was too P2W.
Like with Roadhog and Makoa. when looking at D.Va and Ruckus, they are offensive mech based heros/champions, but play completely different, even when there abilities look very identical. Rockets, booster, dual weapons with low range.
I just want him back already bro 😭
Dude saaaaaaame
im a paladins player at heart but been playing ow more this year , I think it would be awesome to have a paladins vs OW kinda like a marvel vs capcom or capcom vs SNK , bring all the characters into one universe , itd be so broken but so fun , having grover and ana on one team or buck and genji
Actually based
The CC would go insane 😂
Would be cool, i would love to see khan in overwatch yeet players off the map although i imagine his heal battlecry will be op
I just realized how op the champions are even without their loadouts
ok i feel like its important to say : there are limited amount of mechanics that you can do in FPS game, though those things have similarities, and i 100% garantee any respectable gd will be playing competitor's game and take notes. None of this mechanics have anything extremely special about them to be a "clone".
another thing is that two games have different play style, Paladins prefers a more planned ahead style, building different decks for different effects on different champions, in game you get different items to buy to have different effects (although most casual players don't even know and just leave it on auto buy). OW doesn't have any customization on your character other than skins, but it change that by the fact that most of these characters were designed when the switching heroes were the main focus, so if you get hard countered, you don't have to stick to it. So even if one game tries to copy one another, it may not work on the grand scheme of that game.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought he’s just like Raum
man i havnt played paladins since 2019. what a throwback i need to get back in there…
Actually I'm pretty sure that Makoa bases his abilities on a Assault´s variant from Global Agenda, like many other Paladins characters, I also heard that Roadhog is very similar to Veteran from SMNC
Roaghoag is pudge from dota 2 - lets be honest about it. Pudge first item to make is always a flusk)
5:53 this didn't even age 💀
mauga is based on the character from retribution event in overwatch 1, the heavy assault unit, apparently mauga was ready and he wass supposed to come out instead of sigma... that was on like 2017-2018
I mean, not really? They made a kit that was originally supposed to be mauga's, but they realized it didn't fit him, so they made sigma and gave it to him instead
honestly thi sounds the same as how league players say hanzo's ult from mobile legends is a copy of karma's skill that didn't even reached the beta test.
@@no.notfromRDR I would say it's different because in the archives event from 2018 there were heavy assault units with dual machine guns and a charge ability that you fight. There was also an exploit that let you play as it in pvp.
when i saw him for the first time i said "RAUM IS THAT YOU"
and then you realize that Mauga is just a bot from the old archives missions yeah that dude is either inspired by heavy from tf2 or just an overwatch original.
As someone who mained maeve, and then Raum when he released, yea i instantly recognized mauga as a paladins character hahaha
raum is so much fun to play peak tank/dps gameplay on a good run u feel invincible
6:44 holy shit that was hilarious 😂
i hope doomfist becomes more like terminus, the block creating more ammo is such a cool feature
Mauga’s character is based off of the Ai enemy “ Talon Heavy Assualt” from the Overwatch 1 Archive event
yes but its also very clearly inspired by raum
After looking at his abilities for like 2 seconds my first thought was "oh its raum" and then I went into my first game dominated and got potg💀
I subbed cause you were at 999 lol couldn't leave you hanging like that
Thank you bro 😭
Funny, saw on a podcast about the recent blizzcon event that they talked about how mauga felt like the most overwatch "2" character.
i literally went "oh so raum and moji lol" about 5 seconds after he was revealed lol
I appreciate you making this video and offering a more neutral approach. The two games fandoms have been at eachothers throats for years when in actuality they both take heavy insperation off of eachother (and other various forms of video games)
Bro the divorced parents joke was so natural I have to watch for 10 more second to realize the joke lmaooooo
I love your hook transition, great video.
That edit took too long 😆
Thanks!
fun fact just like raum mauga is horrible big hp punching bags
this fact isnt so fun...
@@thamontineit is when your the one using them as an ult battery.
videos like this have existed since the game got revealed. im going to bed.
bro i’m a raum main tank on paladins and as soon as i started playing mauga i was convinced they’re basically the character. the weapons more of a mix of different weapons from paladins but mauga is just an earth realm raum
i moved to paladins and i am having time of my life, paladins maps feels so big and character skill customization i can keep playing my favorite character every time
4:07 my brain: "yes."
I think you can be the ONE. The person to both upload OW2 and paladins.
Lol is this my destiny??
I feel like the conversation that no one wants to have is the fact that neither of these games are particularly original, before Overwatch 2 came out the game had a 5% originality rate mechanically speaking (see Shammy's video on this subject, she made a whole spreadsheet).
And tbh that's perfectly okay, firstly the games both have enough going for themselves to be considered their own games, it's not about what's in the games but how those mechanics and systems are combined to give the game its identity. Plus in my case being able to use my skills on Drogoz to learn Overwatch as a Pharah player made moving between the games feel more fun than confusing.
Mauga ult is literall Ares/Odin ult from smite combined.
with that title I thought you'd say he'd fit better into Paladins but I'm glad it's just a comparison of the abilities
The turret done thing from a design standpoint is just a modified Engie sentry from TF2
never noticed the similiarities to Moji and Raum tbh
first thing i thought when seeing Mauga was just that his primary fire was like combining Heavy (for the miniguns, duh) with pyro (for the ability to set on fire/crit on fire)
also, 2:46 if only raum also was CC immune while running T_T
I also want that...
Huo long heater
@@Notllamalord the Hou long heater but ignites with bullets
I personally thought when i first saw his design in game he looked like a paladins character... and i will never unsee it lmao. His art or something just doesnt look like other overwatch characters idk what it is
Paladins has so many gimmicks that creating any character without any abilities from it is very hard
Realy i feelt mauga like raum and i main raum + i well main mauga in season8 can't whit
December 5th, babeee!!!!
i like how you explain how overwatch stole a concept from paladins while playing as the engineer
OH COME ON THAT'S A COLLAB!
but that is funny...
'Twas not a movement ability that Roadhog received, but minor cc instead of what we were led to believe.
This isn't how I remember that Christmas boom starting...
my first thought was "is that raum"
I’ve honestly seen no overwatch person complain about character copy’s except paladins followers yet they say us overwatch followers complain about it
Anytime I ask my friend to even TRY the game that is the go to. That it is a bootleg. Its not and I'm tired of people saying one is copying the other. They are different games.
I really wish RoadHog would've gotten the movement ability
Yeah that trap isn't as cool as I had hoped
Yeah I saw his abilities and said "Ah yes, Raum".
I like OW, but I wish more heroes in it were as active as Paladins Champs
That was a good translation
this happens every time if you're a support and you're reading this pop your ult when the tank is at half health not when they're about to die
Mauga's ultimate is really similar to an ultimate of a character named Akos Hu from the fighting game-inspired hero battle royale game Naraka Bladepoint.
Odin from smite
OW's hero design has become very similar to Paladins since the launch of OW2. Hope the quality doesn't pitfall like Paladins though.
Dude muaga was in lore for 5 years before release 😂
its a none threat comment 😂 don't be to serouse
OMG FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO DOES NOT SAY PLAGIARISM TO 3 SIMILAR ASPECTS OMG THANK YOU
you know what tilts me a little? is that mauga will be way better than raum solely because overwatch doesn't have anti-heal on every hero.
seriously hi rez, why did they made a tank based on outhealing the opponent when they can completly stop your healing by shooting them?
1. Raum is bugged, anti-healing isn't supposed to affect Soul Armor.
2. CC is what makes him bad. If he was against a team with no CC, he would be free (which never happens).
You know that Raum's "heal" (which is actually over-health like mauga) doesn't get affect by cauterize right? He has multiple cards that heal his real heath based on the amount of over-health (or soul armor) he obtains. These card's healings are affected by cauterize, but his armor health gain will always be the same. It is a bug if the soul armor gain is affected by cauterize because it didn't do that before and there has been no patch note mention it, so it must be a bug.
That transition was clean❤
i should get back into paladins one of these days both games are really fun
imagine roadhog just swirlin on his tummy to get away real quick, would be fine having the be his rework
nyx has chains upon double activation of her F ability
man i kinda miss paladins
I feel some of the new heroes use "paladins champion" design, not stealing abilities but instead of making a niche situational answer, they're giving heroes at least 2 options of optimal play.
Can't say no one is stealing abilities tho. Hanzo rework, Nyx kit, bottom text.
Shout out to anyone with the plushy makoa skin
Barricks ult is more just a winston bubble.
as you can see mauga can walk as can heavy tf2, there for mauga = heavy tf2
I think they are both amazing games and i play them both
I dont think its necessarily bad that Overwatch and Paladins sorta mimic each other, but I think for how much of a high profile game Overwatch is, it is ridiculous that the best Blizzard does is copy a charcter from another game, rather than do what the community actually ask like rebalancing and whatnot. Albeit they are trying to fix comp soon but, it is way too late for them to care now, now that most of the player base hates them and the game.
it's not a ctrl+c ctrl+v bro
Makoa. Road hog if he was actually a tank, and not just a chunky dps.
For the dome you have to go to Hi Rez's other game, Smite with Odin ult its almost the exact same.
as a paladins players that heard for a long time that paladins is a cheap copy of overwatc, seeing an overwatch character being called out for having a similar kit to paladins characters makes me feel kinda happy bc now overwatch is being called a copy of paladins, but at teh same time i know that is not the case
I’ve been saying it since the 5v5 change, Overwatch is so down bad to the point they’re copying their copycats.
I wouldnt call mauga a paladin hero copy but he feels like a paladin hero imo
u should have used ruam for the comparison. its quite actually the same abilitys
Push in Overwatch has annoyed me since Siege in Paladins. Overwatch 2 turned into Paladins where Paladins was supposed to be the "rip off" it's been ahead of Overwatch in a few ways since before OW2 release.
Ok, so people were caping about muaga being copied.
Hes fucking ruan dude, but with fire and a juggernaut ability. And a nyx ult
Based
This is exactly what I'm saying
naw the dash from mauga is sion ult. and his cage is camille ult with morgana ult combined (league)
Is it just me or does Mauga look nothing like an overwatch character? Like the first time i saw him i thought “who put a clash royale character in the game?”
you posted your placements in paladins now you should do the same on overwatch
bro's still got the dbd rank head
nah dude that's the old me!
Edit: this is the last video with dbd head... huh
@@thamontine ik
The overhealth point is more like old reaper
more like old torb
i love both games if im feeling awful playing overwatchs current rank system I'd play from time to time in paladins both have similarities. Its not roadhog having a hook and mokoa also having a hook. There are also different games with hooks lets say pudge in dota 2 he has a hook and blitzcrank in league of legends he also has a hook but that does mean they're the same.
The comparasion between Mauga and Paladins champs is just dumb.
They just have similar abilities.
And there's plenty of characters in all games, all which have abilities.
This is just dumb.
I don't know why giving a hero the ability to hook is a Roadhog copy, Overwatch didn't invent hooks...
Also the recent patch in Overwatch was really underwhelming to me as a mainly Paladin player, because I felt like Sombra just became Skye with a teleport ,and the new hero will be a Raum with a "splash"...
I see that early Paladins had much simularity with early Overwatch, but Overwatch promised soo much, yet they copy a game that has less then tenth of the budge and maybe half the playerbase...
5:31 bro
😆
Bastions newer ult is viktors ult.
But better
I mean I've just started playing palidins as an long time overwatch degen and the majority of the abilities are similar or the same to overwatch just in driffent combination and roles
I forgot to mention they also have a competent dev team who can do something other than habitually faceplant
4:45 it neither games move the chain belongs to scorpion from mk lol
tbh i feel like palandins Is way better at this Point maybe to only me but i Always Felt like Paladins Feels more Fun they never really removed anything important the cosmetics dont cost a Kidney Its Just that ever since ow2 Came out with the changes And ect Paladins Always started to feel like my go to when i want PVP team action but that Just my opinion
Ik right
6:04 unfortunately that didnt age well
What Really bummed me out of paladins is when they lost support for switch, i honestly perfer paladins over OW (bugs n all), i wish i could of played dredge a little longer
I salute ya, soldier.
Hopefully we see ya again
mauga ult in my opinion is closer to butchers ult in hots