Everything Wrong With Doctor Sleep In Redrum Minutes
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2020
- Doctor Sleep is the sequel to The Shining, and a lot of people really loved it. There's a lot of callbacks to the original, but also some really great performances. Oh, and sins.
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“It’s over Rose, I have the high ground!” Can’t believe it’s not in there
Kind of doesn't work in this movie because Rose still kicked Danny's ass and was beaten when she had him pinned.
Colin u sound goofy
They had ripped Star Wars off enough already!
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It would have been late to put that line since rose has beaten danny to a pulp
When there's no Obi Wan meme in the outtakes:
"Impossible. Perhaps the archives are incomplete."
Lol
If it is not in the outtakes, then it does not exist.
@@bradcarver8127 Master? Because somebody erased it from the outtakes memory.
Or they old and played out.
@@JohnDoe-vn1we "Oh, I don't think so."
it drove me nuts that the kid was walking home alone like no adult would have drove the star player home?
I used to walk miles home through farmland too as a teenager. It's really relaxing and you don't expect a group of steam vampires to mind control and torture you to death.
@@gentblue but were you hitting 790?
@@SLIDESPOT I was pretty athletic and felt that I could handle anything and anyone as a dumbass teenager. Teenage Gentblue is now trying to work out how to get Rose the Hat and the other steam vampire chick into a threesome - whattadick!
I'm from the midwest and close friend of mine lived Iowa and said he would walk miles to places as a kid. This was also only in the late 2000s and early 2010s mind you, it's not like we're some old fucks who didn't worry about stranger danger.
Y’all missing the point. NOBODY is letting a kid walk home after a game period, no matter what sport especially if he’s the best player. Even if the kid insisted on walking they’d be like shut the fuck up kid I’m driving you home.
"You were supposed to bring BALANCE to the Shining...!"
Hello there!
@@heartless604 general kenobi
@@andrewkind2820 *Your new Shining?!*
Honestly, Jeremy talks so much about his college girlfriend that i keep forgetting he has a wife, and it feels like he does too.
Also, a very understanding one, given his possibly real crush on Rebecca Ferguson.
Ding!!
Yeah and i'm definitely wondering if she even KNOWS about the sin channels and god knows how many years he's been making college girlfriend jokes and what she makes of them. Life's full of tough questions isn't it?
@@mst3k3000 I always just thought Jerr's college girlfriend IS his now wife.
@@flowergirl9999 yep, me too. I always assumed college girlfriend is now current wife.
Earlier in the movie Dan says how neither him or his mother could look each other in the eye after the overlook. That makes the ending when Dan and Wendy are looking at each other so powerful because they could finally look each other in the eye.
i think that is only said in the (vastly superior) directors cut, which is probably why they ignored it
that dad at the baseball game was the same guy who played danny in the shinning
Yeah, he's Danny Lloyd, the original Danny Torrance
Samantha that's literally what he just said, slightly different wording
@@super8studios208 So, just ignore my comment
Samantha but why? It's annoying that you said basically the exact same thing as the first comment
The Eyes Of A True Demon- Anomaly Productions but that's not even relevant to the current argument, you're using a petty insult to distract from a larger argument which is stooping seriously low
Jacob Tremblay's performance is what truly broke me in that scene. 💯
Kid shot that scene on his birthday, too.
Tyrek Hyde he’s either going to grow up to win a bunch of Oscars (not that they really matter) or disappear with the internet making up stories about why
I was legitimately worried about him after that scene.
@@mst3kharris damn thats stupid
What a birthday present damn
He is just practicing for his next project with Ewan. Jacob will be young Luke in the Obi Wan series
6:40 The guy in the blue hat is Danny Lloyd. He played Danny in the original Shining.
O wow!
Thank you KINDLY!! FINALLY!!!! I thought I was the only one who knew this
When Jeremy focused on him twice, I kept expecting him to mention it, and was surprised when he didn't.
Nice, thanks!
Thats awesome,thnx for that tidbit.
How could you skip the part when Abra turns the tables on Rose in her dreams? That was badass, and deserves a sin off.
Right! And the crash scene. Man I need to watch this movie again.
They made Abra too OP in this. Danny was a kid and never showed this kind of power, and he was just as strong when he was her age. Of course he did face the ghosts and did not want to shine, because he did state it was dangerous. I guess I answered my own question there. LOL! The problem is that I do not udnerstand is how can she learn how to do all those tricks?
@@cainabel6356 well, she's a strong independent girl of color, so her minority powers translate to being seemingly instantly awesome at everything she does. This kind of girl power trend could be fine in some genres, but feels as pure agenda if the authors aren't careful.
The flying astral projection scene was stunning!
@@AntediluvianRomance Was Abra Mary Sue? Absolutely, which is why it was shocking when Rose finally gained the upper hand.
I've known people who struggled with addiction and low points, and while I never saw them at quite that point, the 3 seconds you've shown of Danny begging for help not to drink before smashing the bottle still gets to me. Absolutely a sin off for that scene alone.
Its a shame many drug addicts are labeled scum or worthless yet underneath there is probably so much trauma its the only way to forget
There is no such thing as 'addiction'.
@@goodyeoman4534 Pretty much. If you start thinking you're addicted to something, then you will be. Mind over matter. You need to find the strength within you
@@goodyeoman4534 physical dependence is what keeps the addiction going. So yes addiction is very real and yes to the other comment that at the end of the day it's your mental side that has to be strong to pull you through all of it
@@gking2709 Prove it: what's the objective falsifiable test that shows it existence?
Fun fact: when they were filming Bradley’s death, even though he was entirely fine the adult actors were so uncomfortable they had to step away several times
Who's Bradley
@@lando6420 Bradley Cooper
The baseball kid
Sin: This isn't a movie about a doctor treating insomnia
*ding*
Dole Bludger why insomnia
@@Ibrahim-lf3ek insomnia is problems sleeping
Dole Bludger I know I said why insomnia. He’s doctor sleep not doctor no sleep
he helps people sleep
The reason rose didn’t sense Danny was because he repressed his shine with alcohol and drugs
But not till he was in his teenage years.
I thought it was fairly obvious that Danny did not use his shine and was drunk/stoned for decades to hide his shine.
I kind of wish the movie went a bit deeper about Danny’s fall to rock bottom and AA journey from the book. I remember the bit where Danny was getting close to entering a bar and I was thinking “come on man what are you doing?”
Not when he was a little kid in 1980
@@thehorrorcenobite1654 he likes a lot of the movies he makes these videos for. He even praises most of this movie even though it was terrible.
Jacob Tremblay is such a phenomenal actor for such a young age. If his performance in this was enough for the adult actors to be in shock, then he will have a ‘shining’ future career
40 years of alcoholism made danny shine weak through the years she didn't noticed him till he got clean.
Again thats when he was drinking as he got older. But before then when he was a kid was what the sin was talking bout
@@y4j1981 They didn't notice Danny as a kid, because they were simply in other parts of the country, their "range is limited" and the film explains it.
They're in Florida during 1980 chasing the young girl. He's in Colorado Denver. His mom takes him away briefly to Florida to escape Denver, not long after the True Knot has just fed and we see the missing persons poster near the bench.
The True Knot tends to chase one victim at a time, and Danny simply never registered to them.
It's also obvious that Halloran's ghost and the ghosts from the hotel are shielding Danny. Halloran to protect him, and the ghosts because they still want to eat his shine.
I think if this were true, that addiction makes the shine stronger. Drunks have the nastiest dreams ever. Anyone will tell you it also makes you extremely vulnerable to such influences.
@@colliric Only their range isn't limited if the person's shine is strong enough. Look how far away Rose was able to sense Abra. Dan was probably just as powerful as her when he was a kid (and would be even more powerful, more than likely, had he continued to use his powers all his life instead of muting them with alcohol), so you can't tell me she wouldn't have sensed him.
How are you gonna not put, "hello there" and "I have the high ground" in the outtakes? On the nose? Yes, but hilarious
the variations of "hello there" could've been a bonus round.
Hello there
Not anymore that’s basic bitch memes now
Jeremy hates the prequels to an almost unhealthy extent.
@@skysayshi4039 he has used audio from movies he didn't really like, I mean if the movie is bad, I don't see what stops him from using a "famous" quote
6:41 - The guy talking about the boy who can read the pitchers mind - is Danny from the original Kubrick Shinning film.
Cool. They shoulda got him to play Danny as an adult.
@@requinremembers He quit acting before he was 20 and from his line delivery you can tell lol. I liked Ewan for the role, but I'm biased cuz I'm a big fan.
And I think Jack Nicholson/Loyd the bartender was played by the kid from E.T.
Danny lloyd is the actors name if you didn’t know
Kalen yeah and he’s a biology professor now
The scene where Danny takes over Abra in the van and makes it crash was fuxking awesome. Loved it. 👌
The actor who played Danny in The Shinning makes a cameo in 6:41, and you MISS IT!!!
A sin for you!
The Shinning is when people kick each other in the shin.
One thing though, about the REDRUM on the wall: It makes total sense for the R to be backwards since she was obviously reading it from Danny's mind, and that's how he would have seen it. So...I totally disagree with the sin there.
I agree with this! The scene didn't happen in the book, HOWEVER in the book it was established that Abra became "friends" with Tony, and he was her imaginary friend when she was younger (it's never exactly explained what this means or how it worked??? but I digress) so, she already has access to Dan's mind, so she could have subconsciously written that for him!
Oh Please.. it was obvious nostalgia pandering.
@@MustbeTheBassest it was also in the book, just like them going to colorado
@@MustbeTheBassest it's not really pandering if its a fucking sequel. People like you get mad over dumb ass shit all the time. Negative all the time over small brain opinions that you parroted off some critic you watched.
@@whish67 In the book,
Spoiler alert...
Dan was Abra's uncle.
Sin you missed: early on rose said drugging abra would be like putting saran wrap over a spotlight. Then later on, drug her and disable her shine lol.
they were talking about if she was prescribed antipsychotics from a psychiatrist because of her shining causing her to be perceived as schizophrenic-- what the true knot gave her was more like horse tranquilizer lmaoo. not all drugs are created equal so it makes sense
But what you forgot is that she was drugged more than anyone else before, and she was still able to use her shining to contact Danny
@@benjacob9565 actually she just received it I think but still you’re right
Kinda sad that he didn't mention that the original actor, who played Danny, was at the baseball game.
When there is no Obi-Wan reference in the outtakes:
“So uncivilized.”
In fairness, there was no Trainspotting either, probably because most viewers of the channel weren't alive and had seen it.
Im officially calling for a ban on people speaking in unnecessarily hushed voices and giving long stares in horror movies.
@Elisa Castro - One of the worst offenders is The 6ixth Sense! Especially any scenes where Bruce Willis is talking to his son!
Let's just ban any movies where people talk. All movies should just be the quiet part of a quiet place
I've just started reading the novel, I'm curious if Rose's "high there" is actually part of her character like her hat or just her way of always leading with pleasantries before torture?
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I wish this guy would ban the bleep button on videos he puts up on the internet
The book explains why Grandpa Flick dies. Basically Brad had measles which when the Knot killed him, passed into them all.
This also gave the Knot more motivation in the book to go after Abra, alongside the simple fact that they wanted to kill her or at least come after her and feed on her because she got into Rose’s head and learned everything about them thus being their biggest threat because she knew too much, because she was an older kid with the Shining and by sucking on her steam it would cure them.
But then again the book’s don’t matter according to you guys for some reason.
Side note: Best horror film, or at least one of the best in last few years. The nostalgia bait in the finale doesn’t feel forced to me, because they have a reason for going back to the hotel, that isn’t JUST “Look at how cool this place is that you remember from this awesome classic movie” , it was so they could have a better chance of offing Rose by being around all the supernatural shit that could consume her, literally. And then, them getting to Dan and possessing him to go after Abra only for him to fight back and burn the hotel down, is adapting the ending of the original Shining novel, into the world that Kubrick set up, so everything on both fronts is caught up if you get me.
i also appreciate how this version of the ending "corrected" the cold ending of Kubrick's movie, even if it means we lost Dan.
Tbh the books really shouldn't matter when watching any film adaptation because it's the screenwriter's job to cogently convey any ideas presented so that the audience can clearly understand what's going on in the movie without having to go to the original books for additional information.
@@GarrettZa They detered off from what was in the book. The book is probably better by default. I am not saying this is a bad movie. I actually own the movie and watch it. I think this is the best horror film released in years.
I thought the elevator scene with Rose’s reaction shots got cheezy. Maybe he was contractually obliged to show the elevator scene. It seemed like they wanted to do a sequel with the Shining ghoul group
the nostalgia bit is forced because up till that point they followed the general storyline of the book.
I actually loved some of the parallels to the shining, especially dannys set up in the end fight. he wears the same kind of clothing than jack did
The Shining is one of my all time favourite films and books. So I found this film to be amazing as well as a perfect nostalgic act for me. Rebecca Ferguson deserved better praise.
Mike Flanagan, the director, had fun making this movie as well! Especially the final act.
I loved this movie but people have to remember no movie is without sin
Say that to shrek
Yea but that isn’t an excuse to just fundamentally get things wrong
I actually didn’t like this movie
Arion Noble well it messes with what Shining is waaaaay too much
I was going to disagree, but my favorite movie is just 1 hour and 48 minutes of pure sin.
The Shining, or something like it, caused Andy McGee nosebleeds in Firestarter. So Stranger Things stole from Stephen King, and Stephen King also stole from Stephen King.
Check out "The Fury" from 1978 for "nosebleeds while using telekinesis."
@@lizardog Was it telekenisis though? It was never clear what their powers were
@@theroebuck123456789 seriously, I didn't know whether to type telepathy, telemetry, or some other label. They had mind powers is all I know.
Rose just got hurled back twenty feet and landed on her back from an explosion. The nosebleed needn't necessarily be a Shining symptom if she just got baffed in the face by telekinetic energy and/or appliance glass.
Nose bleeds also were in the butterfly effect and Chronicle. It's been used so much when someone overuses a special power it's long become another worn out Hollywood cliche.
6:40 I'm surprised you completely glanced over the fact that *_THAT'S THE ORIGINAL ACTOR WHO PLAYED DANNY IN THE SHINING..._*
That Bug's Bunny "Nehh" for the bonus round KILLED ME 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I maintain that this film bombing is one of the biggest crimes of last year, especially since _Pet Sematary_ was shrugworthy and _It: Chapter Two_ was [whispers] merely alright.
We have Dr Strange, Dr Stone, but a flubbed Dr Sleep
I agree I thought IT chapter two was sloppy at best and pet sematary was MEH but I'm quite sad that doctor sleep bombed at the box office but the movie was actually pretty good I enjoyed it if you didn't like the movie or you just hated it I totally understand it's your opinion but nonetheless I liked this movie more than IT chapter two or pet sematary
@Arion Noble Very well put 👏 It's both a good tribute to the Shining and a very good almost Standalone story that expands on people Who have the shining 👌
@Arion Noble His Redrum in "Tony's" Voice is Creepy as hell though.
This was a good movie, but I’m positive the movie bombed because of the child murder scene
That baseball boy scene was so messed up. I’ve watched the brutalist horror movies before and I had to look away when they were torturing him. That being said, this movie is awesome with mixing the source material while also calling back to the shinning and I’m mad that the general audience let it flop just to make jump scare fest movies popular.
i hope it will pick up "steam" over time and reach a wider audience
That and the casting was just PERFECT in this movie. Like almost all of the characters looked how I imagined them when I read the book a few years ago. And Rose the Hat was perfect!
Yeah, but the book was so unbelievably good it’s one of my favorites of all time and I think no movie can do it justice. The baseball boy seen is still one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever read too. I guess it’s a good thing that other King books didn’t desensitize me though
According to an interview I read, Jacob Tremblay jumped to his feet the instant the camera stopped rolling, grinning from ear to ear, high-fived his Dad and asked him if they could go look for some snacks, and then they left, leaving the rest of the cast and crew "shell-shocked".
@@ninclow5421 Yeah. The actors were traumatized by his performance when they first witnessed it.
I played cards against humanity and the card "angels interfering in an otherwise fair baseball game" made me realize how badly i needed a cinemasins video about Angels in the Outfield
11:31 - *In the book, they didn't call the authorities for just that reason. Hence, why they just came for the glove. Getting detained unnecessarily and having to explain why they were there randomly in the first place would've endangered Abra.*
Sucks that you can't make anonymous calls anymore.
@@robotrix Using someone elses phone is good enough for anonymous and there are probably pay phones still out there. Or you could use a burner phone. Or a fake name. Or the internet. What a strange comment
"Why don't they just attack, instead of all the other stuff?"
Every supernatural horror movie villain in the last 20 years: Huh? Uh...well. I'm sorry, what was the question? Uh...ya just don't GET IT, BRO.
Deux ex machina
The reason her powers don't work on Rose is simple. Rose is an older, more experienced and powerful psychic than Snakebite with several lifetimes of practice. Her powers aren't going to do jack to her. Apart from their old leader, Rose is the most powerful member of their coven. Rose and her Coven get their IMMORTALITY from the life force of psychic children, but they still need to eat normally from time to time. The life force is only used when their immortality is starting to fade, they still need food each day like any other person though. She wrote it backwards so it'd show up correctly in Danny's mirror. The nosebleed happens when they overextend their powers. So yeah, it is like Stranger Things, but unlike there it doesn't happen every time they use their powers. Because the Shining mind reading works when they are close to someone. But in order to find someone on the other side of the country, different powers are needed. Also, before this movie the only person who had psychic powers was Danny, and he was a little kid who didn't know the full extent of his abilities. Rose, a far older psychic, would have much greater abilities than he showed. Including astral projection. The leader of the coven is mentioned that the steam they get is no longer having the effect on him that it had. He's reached his limit, so him starting to die even after recently consuming life force is not to far-fetched. Dan is certain of this because he knows Rose and her coven are a group of child-murdering psychic vampires who would do anything to keep their existence a secret and anything more to get that sweet life force. So why wouldn't they kill anyone who gets in their way? Would the police believe them? Yeah they found the body and maybe Abra could demonstrate her abilities but that's still a lot of ifs. And if the police are connected to the True Knot, then that's a big risk. Again, Danny was five years old the Shining. His powers weren't as developed as Abra, or as practiced. And just like the Force, the Shining is a powerful energy that has many uses. So introducing new powers to keep things interesting instead of having the characters be one-trick ponies is not convoluted. There are lots of different psychics out there just as their are different Force-users. They use their powers in different ways and have different talents. Just because we don't see all the powers on screen in one movie doesn't mean there aren't more. Rose is likely more ready for Abra now after her last two encounters. They need all the advantage they can get, especially when she's now powered up by so much steam. And while shoe-horning the Overlook Hotel into the movie is fanservice, we know the ghosts in the Overlook are ever hungry for the souls of psychics so they likely wouldn't team up with Rose. Also, its poetic in that Rose is killed off being devoured on the ground by a bunch of soul-sucking ghouls. Just as she and her coven had done to all those children. Dan has a lot more experience with this psychic Shining stuff by now, he knows a lot more about this by now.
GeneralKenobi75 TL;DR
@@gentblue is there some cutesy acronym for "yours is a 'Douchy Comment, Get Bent' " yet?? Nope? Well then I'll just leave the words.
Thanks for all you wrote, helps clarify a lot for those of us who haven't seen the movie yet!
@@Klm49 No problem.
"Does this Toad have a golden cloaca???"
What a sentence!! A string of words that'll never appear anywhere else in the universe.
You add about a zillion sins for every "Doc" for some reason, and yet would have probably deducted the same amount if they'd never called him that.
@@draiven-eli Re-read my comment... I honestly don't know how I can word my point any simpler.
"This movie has lost it's mind" moments and really the last 30 minutes that you don't like were really about resolving the differences between the original movie and the original book.
In the book the baseball boy had measles so they were all dying and he was a poor farmer boy
happy man the way The True Knot dies in the book was so damn satisfying .
@@Awells89
Seeing them all get shot in that ambush was very satisfying. Wish they'd shot Rose, too. How'd they die in the book?
AGrayPhantom SPOILERS Abra had a grandmother who also had shining died of cancer and Abra was able use her powers to put her cancer into the last of the true Knot members as for Rose Danny kills her with the help of his dad and the ghosts from the overlook.
Aaron Wells I guess I zoned out when i was reading the book
@@Awells89 Dan was the one who used the grandmother...that's why he was so sick. Recall he took her in at the hospice when she died. He unleashed it on them. No? Am I misrememdering? How she got at them was fantastic.
I searched: everything great about Doctor sleep.
I'm disapointed, I loved this movie.
I'm sinning this channel for not knowing that the original movie had a scene with a nose bleed when Danny used the power on dick Hallerin.
Also Danny open the door to make everyone think that the girl is real instead of an astro projection.
I'm sinning this channel for padding the sin count with his own jokes and purposeful misunderstandings
@@operaghostkay honestly jeremy's sins for stupid stuff like his college girlfriend is why im watching this channel. Dont really watch this channel for a serious movie review. But he does indeed sometimes sin something that shouldnt be sinned just because he personally doesnt like it, and it is annoying a bit.
Firestarter had nosebleeds when the father, Andy McGee, pushed. Sorry. Stranger Things is still ripping off Mr. King.
I was just thinking that lol
I LOST IT AT THE DISCOUNT BRENDON URIE JOKE!
Darth Vader: Obi-Wan has taught you well
Dr. Sleep: I'm snoring
Rose the Hat: One of the few people to get the high ground.
Next thursday: Everything Wrong With Gemini Man in Twinty Minutes.
Gemini man sucked
Yes! Please do Gemini Man. That movie sucked ALLLLLL the balls.
This comment needs more upvotes
You spelt sixty wrong
nolanc94 That’s twenty 😂😂 no sixty
I love Doctor Sleep! One of my favorite movies of 2019.
The best horror film of 2019 by far and I liked it more than joker fight me
@@kingsman5121 me too
15:09 - Thank you for saying it! The entire premise for going back to the Overlook in Act 3 makes no sense because Abra has already defeated Rose twice by this point in the story. They should be planning how Abra is going to kill Rose with Danny's help. I assume the book ends differently.
Oh god, it's a lot different. First of all, the Overlook is already burned at the end of the Shining. In Doctor Sleep, it's now a campground and already the main base of operation of the True Knot cause you know, evil attracts evil. They are all dying one after the other of measles that they contracted from Bradley (completely ignored) and they think that Abra who has had the vaccine, would cure them with her steam, that's their main drive to get her fast, after the fact that she has a lot of steam to begin with.
Momo, Abra great grandmother has a bigger role but dies of cancer before the end, but she gives cancer corrupted steam to Dan to lock up in a box. Speaking of boxes, Dan only has 3 in the book. One is Momo, other one is Mrs Massey, the bath lady (who just fades away because she's been in there for so long, when Dan opens it, she's dust.) and Horace Derwent. At the final showdown, he releases Horace who fortuitously kills one of Rose's friends, Silent Sarey (totally ignored in the movie) who seeks vengance for the death of Snakebite Andi, who were a lesbian couple (once again, ignored)).
Billy Freeman, who doesn't kill himself is part of the showdown. Speaking off, Dave Stone also didn't die, he was also part of the trap that they set with the bunny. Also Billy wasn't part of the trap, he was on lookout on Abra, and gets knocked out by the Crow when he kidnaps Abra. There was another man in the trap, Dr John, with a much bigger role, who was also in the search for Bradley's corpse (not Billy)
In the end, Dan (WHO DOESN'T DIE GOD DAMN IT MOVIE WHY YOU DO HIM DIRTY LIKE THAT!!??) releases Momo steam, kills all remaining True Knotters with it (beside Rose) and finally fights her and kills her. The whole duration of the showdown, Abra is at her home in New Hampshire and assists Dan from there.
Bottom line, read it.
Rose didn't sense Danny because he was dulling it with his drinking.
Not when he was a kid, you dope.
@@englishatheart They probably weren't even in America when he was a kid. They've traveled all over the world
I can't decide whether to sin this movie for all the inconsistencies with the book or to forgive it for tying in all of Kubrick's inconsistencies with King's sequel. I mean it's almost masterful how he merges a dead/not dead Halloran and a destroyed/not destroyed hotel storyline and that's just the beginning.
Exactly. In the books Dick is still alive. It’s not dr sleeps fault he’s a ghost because he’s dead in the shining. All the inaccuracies in this movie are pretty much all because of the shining (which is still great)
Then again, it's been 40 years. Halloran was not a young man when he first met Danny.
What is wrong with a movie straying away from the book it’s adapting?
Dear Cinemasins, the last 30min in The Overlook is a great scene and addition, and it was to tribute the King’s original Shining ending in his book. And that scene *is* a good fan service scene
books. don't. matter.
so nea Yea i dont think it matters much to the entertainment of the film, but you cant deny this movie shows how other movies should do fan service
@@sonea9444 without books you wouldn’t even have these movies, or most movies. So in fact they do.
@@Doggosandmore96 not on CinemaSins it doesn't
6:40 Original "Danny" Danny Lloyd cameo!
Fun fact: the cat is based on a real life cat. I not kidding.
Elaborate
@@noahreaves8235 A cat that lived in a long term care facility formed the habit of sitting on the beds of residents who were about to die. He was so accurate that whenever he camped in someone's room, the staff would call their relatives to come and say goodbye before it was too late. He was popularly known as Death Cat. No one knows how he did it, exactly.
@@maggiesmith856 that's crazy. I believe it though it's not that far fetched I guess
@@maggiesmith856 I'll bet the smell.
I heard it’s because when someone is about to die they request a heating blanket cause they’re cold and the cat likes the heat. Just referencing a youtube comment I saw before
Very upset the edited bits at the end didn't show Danny up the stairs yelling "It's over Anakin! I have the high ground!" at Rose.
It just saying calmly it’s over hat, I have the highground
I honestly thought we were going to do the bonus round just so we can get to 237 on the sin counter.
Halaran said “Ka is a wheel” so I’m taking 20 sins off. Yes I know it’s not my video and yes I know that’s not how this works. I don’t care.
Every time a non-Tower King movie gives us a Tower easter egg I shriek a little bit, I don't even care. I just learned that the screenwriters/directors are legit King nerds and nothing can take that joy from me.
Usually I watch this channel as a recap for movies I’m too lazy to watch but honestly I was completely lost on this movie recap and the shining’s recap
“Discount bearded Brendon Urie” ....... I- cinemasins why?!
Can we take off a sin for the Shelley Duvall substitute (Alex Essoe)? Small part but I thought very effective
I agree. She still had a very strong resemblance to Shelly Duvall. Especially in that brief flashback in the finale.
Agreed. She did just the right mix of tribute to to Duvall and The Shining without heading into parody.
I thought the same for Henry Thomas being the Jack sub
both of them did a great job
I know I’m repeating what others have said, but God damnit, a “Hello there” in response to Rose the Hat saying “Hi there” is a no brainer.
6:40 The guy talking is a guy who originally played Danny in The Shinning
When you only watch cinemasins for the comedy and to get the plot for movies you haven’t seen.
Stranger Things is supposed to be an homage to 80’s horror, not a ripoff
Gabi Garzon still doesn’t make the show any better.
True and I love Stranger Things because of this and reminds me of growing up in the 80's, we had to watch out for the real monsters- humans
Eh, still kind of a rip off. I like the show though
Stranger things had a lot of potential but it’s traaassshhhh
"It's a homage!" is what you tell the copyright lawyers when they come knocking.
For a future horror movie, you fellas really really really should sin "In the Mouth of Madness." One of the best right there.
"Don't just look at it, touch it"
"People love to look at it"
Okaaay
Man...I had never noticed that the guy playing Dick Halloran in this movie was the same guy that was Marcus Dixon in Alias! Sweet!
I was also curious about the whole bait thing at the beginning when they just straight up nabbed baseball boy. Maybe it had something to do with the girl who could make people do what she wanted just by speaking but IDK. 🤷🏼♂️
Spot on, Rose says they hadn't had a pusher around in some time so they resorted to Rose getting in their, or her, head enough to physically grab her. All Andy has to do is speak whatever's needed into happening
Read the book then
Vislow I’m currently reading IT, but Doctor Sleep is next on my list. I prefer to watch the movies before reading the books because that way I’ll be less disappointed when they leave things out. 😂
AidentSnyder that is not a good thing. This movie and The Shining sucked compared to the book. To be fair though, the baseball boy scene was insanely accurate considering what they do
Well, if you use your ears, you'll hear the girl say something like "it's okay you can trust us us we'll take you home" and the kid goes "you can take me home" and without hesitation gets into the van. It's crazy what happens when you pay attention to movies.
I don’t like how it wasn’t mentioned that the guy who was talking at the baseball game played Danny in the shining..
"Steam Punk Vampires " - best line I think I have ever heard from you!
6:41 fun fact: that guy is danny lloyd, who played danny in the original shining
Which one?
@@yaboythepizzaboi one on the right
@@yaboythepizzaboi blue cap guy
@Johnny Guillotine He's playing Jack Torrance, not The Baseball ball guy. You mixed both.
@Johnny Guillotine Can't believe you made me google this shit, The kid from ET played a bartender in the movie, 6:41 is danny lloyd
You just had to get a Moulin Rouge reference in there, didn’t you.
This was an amazing movie. A solid 7.5 out of 10 in my op but some badass scenes and when she Astral projected and got trapped was an amazing scene very underated.
That was a breathtaking scene. So well done. I also liked the detail where Abra disguises her face so Rose can't recognize her.
A little trivia:
The dude with the goatee, talking up the little league batter at the game, is Danny Lloyd - who played the original Danny in The Shining.
17:15 Don't do it Rose! He has the highground!
Danny Won Kenobi Wasn't strong enough in the force.
but he did became one with the force
I hate how they kill the baseball boy...I felt so horrible seeing him cry and scream for his life like that
I mean... it was a horror movie. Horror movies tend to do that
I don't think letting Rose overtake him and releasing the ghosts was the original plan. I think he did that when plan A failed
Doctor Sleep is probably one of those rare people that can sleep for days. Causing him to have a healthy doctor mentality
Come play with us CinemaSins forever & ever & ever & ever & ever & ever!
The guy who said something at the baseball game is the actor who played Danny in the Shining
I've always wanted someone to point out the town sheriff overreacts when Rambo came to town! Thank you CinemaSins 🤣🤣
I'm no doctor, but I think you've been sleeping on my request to make a sins video on Big Trouble in Little China. You should get on that.
Jack Burton would be ashamed
I always assumed that the reason why Snakebite's power didn't work on Rose was because Rose was far older and way more experienced with psychics. After feeding off of steam for so many years, her own power was so stacked that Snakebite's power just seemed like a tiny buzzing in comparison. That's why Rose was so terrified of Abra- Abra was the only person who not only could resist Rose but flat out boot her from her mindscape and cause physical injury to her, something that should be extremely difficult with adult psychics and outright impossible with a teenage girl.
The outtake where they're digging couldve easily been "I'm tired Grandpa" "THATS TOO DAMN BAD" from Holes
You missed the biggest sin: how the hell did they get to that hotel? In The Shining they explain and make it essential to the plot that in winter it snows so bad that no one can get up there. And they just drove a regular car to that elevation in that much snow to a place that is clearly abandoned with roads that no one would bother plowing with no trouble? That part bothered me so much.
Global warming.
The biggest sin is that Kubrick even left the hotel standing in The Shining and that Flannagan had to follow suit and keep the hotel standing for this movie (until the end ofc)
Maybe 40 years later they have a better system in place for clearing the roads that lead there? It also looks like it's a light snow at the time..maybe beginning or end of winter
That's exactly what I thought when I saw that scene. A friend of mine couldn't stop giggling when I pointed it out to her.
*Woman wearing a top hat*
Jeremy: "I'm wondering why you're not at rehearsal with the 3 other Non Blondes"
Haha! It will be a sad day when people don't get this reference. 90s forever!
Yeah, I didn't get it and I grew up in the 90's. A band maybe?
You can still listen to songs from the 90s. There is this thing called the internet
I was like "I wasn't expecting Linda Perry to show up in this movie"
It will be a happy day when 90s kids stop acting like they are fucking 70 years old. You’re not old yet, and what the fuck happened to not turning into our “back in my day” parents?
This Movie actually fixes the Shining. I know everyone has a hardon for The Shining but King hates it for a reason. The mallet, the boiler, the yard animals.... so much missing or changed. This movie tried to bring some of it back. Example, instead of blowing up the Overlook which was the thing Jack and the manager was obsessed with, they have him frozen in a maze which was bad even then compared to some thing smashing itself in the face to take back control of Jack while chasing Danny only to remember the boiler. Problem is, Neither this movie or the Shining really tell you why that's important.
I think the books are probably better. They give you more information and fix a lot of mistakes that the movies do tend to leave open. I have not read them, but I have heard about them. I guess I could just find a recording of the whole books. Reading makes me sleepy for some reason.
@@cainabel6356 the guy that does the Audible is amazing. I strongly recommend listening versus reading. Both The shining and Doc Sleep.
Be warned, you'll hate the movie The Shining after. But Doc Sleep is solid. Huge changes and some are disappointing but great acting and I do appreciate them trying to pay homage to the books
YoMrRice Reading is way better than Audible for most of us but I realise that some of us are dyslexic or are long distance drivers, who may well prefer having it read out.
@@gentblue normally I'd agree but download a sample and listen to how the narrator acts out the story. Its outstanding. Also I drive 2 hours every day so audio books are great
@@YoMrRice Dan lives at the end of the book, doesn't he? I haven't seen the movie, nor read the book, but from what I have read of spoilers of both I think that while I would probably like that movie I should definitely prefer the ending in the novel, so maybe I will just get it from Audible (I have never minded spoilers. I'm afraid I am one of those philistines who actually searches them out because I hate hate hate stories where, for the example, a character I really liked suddenly gets killed... but I can enjoy that type of stories if I know it beforehand. What can I say, I just do not like surprises. Not even the good kind, not always. I prefer to know beforehand if at all possible.).
I love the fact that in the Shining you sinned the fact they barely used the nickname Doc, but you felt they used it to much in this.
This is why we live your channel
So many RWBY references, this film is an absolute favourite of mine for that and many other reasons
This movie references the shining wtf are you talking anout
Apparently that was due to Abra's actress requesting that because it's one of her favourite shows
I personally loved the movie. I remember watching it back in November
I saw this movie in theaters with my acting club, specifically the cast and crew of our production of “RedRum”, a play adaptation of the Shining. It was like watching Endgame all over again with how nuts we went at all the references!!!
I love when they make reference to some move made in like 1980 or whatever, it always makes me look it up and learn shit, like I didn’t even know they had movies that long ago, I didn’t even know they had sound, and shit like that
I can't believe you missed the sound byte of Dave Chappelle from "Half Baked" when he was yelling "Abra Kadabra".
I'm about to hit play, but first wanted to say that "Doctor Sleep" is the single greatest Stephen King adaptation I've ever seen. tread lightly Singuy. lol
Please do the cinemaSins of Space Jam from 1996 or Richie Rich from 1994
Space jam has no sins
@@geraldwindham491 no movie is without sin
I'm pretty sure I remember them doing Space Jam.
These things get taken down by YT and some of them can't be re-uploaded.
Sin: you didnt point out OG Danny's cameo at the baseball game.
I thought it was implied that Rose inhaled ALL the steam she had left in the trailer, expecting to get shitloads from Abra to restock.