I would like to add some more good points Their songs are really good Give their idol’s creative freedom Give their groups good promotion (Not fromis9) Their boy groups have good vocals Good dancers
they don’t let idols rest. also line distribution is okay but it can be improved. for example, beomgyu got zero lines in happily ever after. eunchae got 4 seconds in their debut song. sunoo has a very low amount of lines in lots of songs. and for resting, they sent enhypen everywhere around the world except korea. they never let enhypen rest. even when jay had a bad knee and it was hurting, he couldn’t take a break.
They also forget about many groups (as in promotions) SVT and Enhypen are like NEVER promoted BTS is somewhat promoted and TXT got promoted during Deja Vu a bit but before that their last good promotions were during Run Away Which leads me to say THEY FAVOR GIRL GROUPS even tho what got HYBE to where it is was a boy group 💀💀
@@Shingibangipoongpoongbangi17i don’t understand why you guys still bring up gfriend, they’ve disbanded. don’t get me wrong i love them so much but (also jeonghan used)
I feel like they don't promote their boy groups at all ,like they do for their girl groups (except fromis) like lessera ,newjeans got so much promotion even bts didn't get that much .They abondoned their talented group seriously
Its cuz they depends on different strategys for their groups boy groups income depends of fanbase that's why they mostly do activities outside of the group while girl groups not so they have to depend of music Shows and so on
Actually the pros of hybe are their actual cons, you see debuting so many groups in the timeline of 2-3 years. Can cause huge controversies, take ador vs belift, their concepts overlapped alot leading to the feud between them. If only they made atleast 4-5 years it would never have been like that.
Doesn't promote Enhypen in Korea!!! Only focuses on sending them on tours and overworks them!! Never let their idols rest!! Have underrated groups like BoyNextDoor and Fromis_9 (Enhypen too in South Korea) but never focused on promoting them right and sending them to k-variety shows like they need more recognisation!!? Focus on them dude!!
One of main reason for them to debut so many groups back to back was to relief some pressure and dependency from BTS shoulders cus before more 95% revenue came from BTS so obviously it would be lot of pressure,now they have 70-80% dependency on BTS
Y’all should know that Hybe is a corporation and not really a label. But Hybe corporation owns some labels, such as Big Hit, Pledis and Ador. In my opinion, this video should be more specific.
I think the 2nd bad for is kinda good and bad, bad because yeah they where competing the good side of it, they are still on a different sub label so they are competitive to the other sub label unlike JYP when they are debuting rookie groups they make their senior groups take some time to hiatus or break or even kill the groups popularity to make way for their rookies
@@Stanmanykpopgroups well to be fair jype hahahahaha I think ever since TWICE re-signs with they have more time to breath than their first 7 years with jype. It's just looks like they don't have breaks because they are always TWICE content. For example when their is no schedule they have TTT every Friday. And if a single member has schedule they do have some free time. I think it's part of their contract like how jype proposed it to them that they will not have more schedule and activities unlike before. Even their promotions for comebacks it's only 2 weeks lol
@@juicce1546 well thats what i ment... i k they r still popular... but not as much as they used to be... still remember twice being called bp's competition and itzy as 4th gens queens... now i don't hear these anymore
yk tbh after all the drama w min hee jin, illit, le sserafim and all the bad vocals along w their survival show, i could not have named even ONE good thing about HYBE 😂😂 nonetheless good points though i agree w all ❤❤
Debuting a lot of groups is a good side and also a bad side. Another good thing of HYBE: -Most of their groups are popular and they have great discography -Most of their groups are really talented (ex: BTS, SVT,...) Bad thing: -Debuting minors -Female idols (include minors) have to wear unsuitable and uncomfortable outfits -Live-singing of some girl groups
Bad: •Debuting too much minors •Pick visual over talent •Made idols to sing a song what is not fit with their vocal range •Don’t give much vocal training •Send unready groups to perform in choacella
theyre katseye, a global girl group produced from a survival show called dream academy. so they dont any kpop songs n they only hv two singles rn but theyre releasing their first ep on 16 august!
Their all boy groups are literally stable and good while dancing .Companies has their own training process ,it's not a hybe problem .If it was pledis new boygroup tws would be horrible at vocals too since they debuted under hybe .I feel like Only bighit and pledis has vocal trainers since bts and txt also got good vocalist .
Hybe It's just better in bg. But such groups TXT and ENHYPEN have too busy schedules. Remember Wonhee from ILLIT, Hyein from NEW JEANS, Jay from ENHYPEN, Beomgyu from TXT have suffered an injury to your legs, knees or ankle.TXT and ENHYPEN literally squeeze them out. Even ENHYPEN in one of the In their recent interviews, they said that they want to take a break.The entire TXT group (except Hyening Kai) fainted alone during the Act:promise tour. One fainted, the second was bleeding from the nose.They do not want to promote the group solo. Remember when ENHYPEN first debuted,Hate was poured on them. The group has makne 14-15 old. From this company debuted ILLIT when they were subjected to hate, their protectionThey defended it out of hate.On Twitter, HYBE almost did not no TXT. This is the band native group of HYBE (Big hit of the main company Hybe, BTS AND TXT, Lee Hyun from Big hit). ENHYPEN is so talented group. But a non-rascal will write on them Undisclosed Song. Sorry that it turned out to be such a long comment. I can't hide my disappointment with Hybe. This is especially true for my ultimate group (TXT, ENHYPEN) If there are errors, then sorry. English is not my native language. 😢
A bad thing abt them is they don’t know how make songs based on the artist’s range, and they also don’t promote the other groups well. Ex. Fromis_9. Plus, they also overwork their idols. :(
I'm literally so fed up by people that keep trolling HYBE for vocals and debuting minors and "overworking" idols. Le sserafim and illit ARE NOT the only groups under HYBE, after all, not all of le sserafim and illit members can't sing, they improved. It's minors will to debut, they became a trainee to debut, it obviously doesn't matter to them how old they are, so HYBE doesn't force minors to debut, if they became trainees what do you expect HYBE to do? Send them home? No, they will debut them. And EVERY but EVERY single company overworks their idols, and being injured doesn't mean being overworked. If you break a leg, that just means you fell during practice, you guys talk like staff under HYBE who train them pushes them to break their leg, and always blaming HYBE.
Last point is not realistic. No offense but wins in music shows only reflect the fan base not the quality of the songs. Popularity has never been the same as quality and I don't say this as a jab or anything to anyone, it's just a fact. Wins and views mean absolutely nothing except, maybe, how compromised the fans are with their idols. And no, I'm not hating on no one, I'm just pointing out how those numbers work.
@@sighmoonsays ohh really have you heard about fromis_9 ... They also have very stable vocals so please have full info without including the whole damn unit
@@sighmoonsays if you don't know about fromis_9 then stfu ... Because fromis_9 is the only gg of hybe with great vocalist dancers songs visuals choreographies etc... So get the full info before including the whole damn unit
Bads bc u forgot these: Overworking them Giving some of them NASTY dormrooms (ex: minji) Making minors twerk Debuting wayyyy to many minors Wasting their talents Not defending the idols Part 2 at 20 likes
Have you actually used your brain and considered they release songs at the same time for shows so the company has a better chance of winning through whichever group wins so they can earn the money and fame.
good’s of hybe: debuting BTS and gfriend bads of hybe: debuting illit+disbanding gfriend+not giving a great treatment for talented groups like fromis_9 old hybe was literally a beast with monster groups in it
Exactly! Especially the ones that debuted after big hit became hybe. Companies that joined hybe but already had groups before joining 'em are good but i can't say the same for the rest.
@@abdullahxiteck5611 that's what I was trynna say. I can't say the same for all the groups, but I know some groups are good. Enhypen, bnd, katseye they're all good. And tws is from Pledis and Pledis 'knows' how to train their idols so it was expected that they were good. And it's also true the core problem lies in the Hybe ggs 💀
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true but you forgot the main bad point - they overwork the idols
most companies do
@@the4thmemberofpaboracha you are right 👍
@@the4thmemberofpaborachayeah but considering how many got injured, they took overworked to another level
@@azure_st4ri mean idols being injured doesn’t mean they’re overworked
Yg and Hybe overwork their idols too much
The best thing about hybe is that they promote their groups well and give them proper comebacks and give their artist creative freedom
"promote their groups well" me when i lie
Theye only promote there gg s other than fromis_9 tho they never promote bgs
Don't lie..its only the ggs 😀
pledis is laughing rn
Hybe still promote their groups better than most of the companies
You forget the main bad point to not promote fromis_9 the most talented gg of hybe 😢
Gfriend too
@@nguyenthuannguyen5705 yess how can I forget my queens 💕
@@nguyenthuannguyen5705 oh please they disbanded
@@Myflovercaratzenplory pledis never care for their girl groups. Example pristin and afterschool. Fromis_9 will also end up like them.
@@strawberry-lm1rz noo pls don't say that I love them so much 😭
Another good thing is Most of their songs are really great.
Exactly!!
That's thanks to the idols, they produce them
Best thing is that hybe has good dancers and good vocalists and you know what people judge hybe only for two freaking groups
real and the problem is that their songs is not even in their range but ppl don't accept it and keep hating
are thee 2 groups le sse and illit?
@@notreadyforthegodofdestruc5112 no
@@usha2232 oh really who are they then?
@@notreadyforthegodofdestruc5112 hybe has so many groups maybe 12, but 2 groups cannot sing (the songs do not fit their range)
I would like to add some more good points
Their songs are really good
Give their idol’s creative freedom
Give their groups good promotion
(Not fromis9)
Their boy groups have good vocals
Good dancers
Yall please watch le sserifim’s make it look easy
They dont give them rest and all amd most pf them have injuries😔
Overworking exists in every company, and being injured doesn't mean overworking
they don’t let idols rest. also line distribution is okay but it can be improved. for example, beomgyu got zero lines in happily ever after. eunchae got 4 seconds in their debut song. sunoo has a very low amount of lines in lots of songs. and for resting, they sent enhypen everywhere around the world except korea. they never let enhypen rest. even when jay had a bad knee and it was hurting, he couldn’t take a break.
Another pro is that all hybe idols dance really well
They also forget about many groups (as in promotions) SVT and Enhypen are like NEVER promoted BTS is somewhat promoted and TXT got promoted during Deja Vu a bit but before that their last good promotions were during Run Away
Which leads me to say THEY FAVOR GIRL GROUPS even tho what got HYBE to where it is was a boy group 💀💀
'They favor girl groups'
*_Gfriend and Fromis_9 being the most talented gg in HYBE, sitting in the corner:_*
You didn't save us and will never save us
@@Shingibangipoongpoongbangi17i don’t understand why you guys still bring up gfriend, they’ve disbanded. don’t get me wrong i love them so much but
(also jeonghan used)
@@carat-17m I have clearly written
"They didn't save us" meaning HYBE literally did nothing to save it
I'm sorry I didn't mean it in a bad way
I feel like they don't promote their boy groups at all ,like they do for their girl groups (except fromis) like lessera ,newjeans got so much promotion even bts didn't get that much .They abondoned their talented group seriously
Its cuz they depends on different strategys for their groups boy groups income depends of fanbase that's why they mostly do activities outside of the group while girl groups not so they have to depend of music Shows and so on
Actually the pros of hybe are their actual cons, you see debuting so many groups in the timeline of 2-3 years. Can cause huge controversies, take ador vs belift, their concepts overlapped alot leading to the feud between them. If only they made atleast 4-5 years it would never have been like that.
I actually like when groups form the same agency have promotions together it’s annoying for the competition for it’s so fun for the interactions
Doesn't promote Enhypen in Korea!!! Only focuses on sending them on tours and overworks them!! Never let their idols rest!! Have underrated groups like BoyNextDoor and Fromis_9 (Enhypen too in South Korea) but never focused on promoting them right and sending them to k-variety shows like they need more recognisation!!? Focus on them dude!!
💀 adding to part 3
They make very good footwork in the choreography that some of the idols break/sprain their ankle such as wonhee and more
They can't even manage the groups they already have, so idk if debuting more groups is a good point.
One of main reason for them to debut so many groups back to back was to relief some pressure and dependency from BTS shoulders cus before more 95% revenue came from BTS so obviously it would be lot of pressure,now they have 70-80% dependency on BTS
Its just that either the new training coaches suck or hybe just wants them to debut despite the training period
Hybe also treats the idols happy
but they overwork them how are them happy?
@@reneekan3002 they don’t overwork the idols
Y’all should know that Hybe is a corporation and not really a label. But Hybe corporation owns some labels, such as Big Hit, Pledis and Ador. In my opinion, this video should be more specific.
My bad, ill make it more towards each label beneath HYBE next time for part 3
Thank you :D
The only thing good about HYBE is that they have BTS.
Still traumatised cuz of ru next😭😔
Same 🫠
another bad thing is they debut so many minors
I think the 2nd bad for is kinda good and bad, bad because yeah they where competing the good side of it, they are still on a different sub label so they are competitive to the other sub label unlike JYP when they are debuting rookie groups they make their senior groups take some time to hiatus or break or even kill the groups popularity to make way for their rookies
Eg twice for itsy.... n now we r loosing both😢
Why are u dragging jyp here lmao but I don't think jyp gave any groups that much hiatus since debut of twice
@@Stanmanykpopgroups well to be fair jype hahahahaha I think ever since TWICE re-signs with they have more time to breath than their first 7 years with jype. It's just looks like they don't have breaks because they are always TWICE content. For example when their is no schedule they have TTT every Friday. And if a single member has schedule they do have some free time. I think it's part of their contract like how jype proposed it to them that they will not have more schedule and activities unlike before. Even their promotions for comebacks it's only 2 weeks lol
@@anjanapisharodyr-1247 the popularity is still their but when they had a comeback they were not even competitive anymorr
@@juicce1546 well thats what i ment... i k they r still popular... but not as much as they used to be... still remember twice being called bp's competition and itzy as 4th gens queens... now i don't hear these anymore
The big3 company stans hating Hybe for the alleged paying shows but behaving as if the industry wasn't dominated by big3 for the exact same reason
I actually hate the last fact most.... I mean they are under same level but still have to compete ???
Bad point:
Less vocal training
yk tbh after all the drama w min hee jin, illit, le sserafim and all the bad vocals along w their survival show, i could not have named even ONE good thing about HYBE 😂😂 nonetheless good points though i agree w all ❤❤
😭 they did my girl Jiwoo, Chanelle, Jeemin, etc. so dirty in the survival show
@@WonyIsOnlyMine FRR LOL at least Chanelle and Jeemin are debuting! Always supporting them ❤️❤️
@@infernox2512 🥺🩷 so happy for them
Where Hybe wins is in the music. Top shelf stuff.
My biggest downside with them… they’re shady af
New subbie ❤
Wasted talents is so real especially when its about Trainee A. Trainee A was such an undeserved waste.
One of worst things about hybe is the amount of minors the debut😭
Every company is gonna debut with minors 💀
Nahhhhh, 2040 they be debuting some kindergarteners
A bad thing is that they do nothing to promote fromis 😭
Hybe goes quantity over quality
Debuting a lot of groups is a good side and also a bad side.
Another good thing of HYBE:
-Most of their groups are popular and they have great discography
-Most of their groups are really talented (ex: BTS, SVT,...)
Bad thing:
-Debuting minors
-Female idols (include minors) have to wear unsuitable and uncomfortable outfits
-Live-singing of some girl groups
Good that it was a small company that was made famous by BTS
Bad:
•Debuting too much minors
•Pick visual over talent
•Made idols to sing a song what is not fit with their vocal range
•Don’t give much vocal training
•Send unready groups to perform in choacella
Ur just attacking illit and seraphim with this
@@RUKA_BABYMONST7Rseriously, a lot of the groups are good at singing
So, you only concluded this because of 2 groups?
Good is BTS
Bad is illit
wdym they hv lots of talented groups not only BTS ok if u only stan BTS then stfu
I feel like HYBE debuting alot of groups is a bad and goof because its probably alot to handle and idols are overworkded,etc
Sorry to ask but was that first song called 😂😂
Magnetic by illit
what's your oponion on Debut by katsey?
I didnt really like it but i think it just wasnt my style!
Also how have u been girl!
@@WonyIsOnlyMineright I was expecting more from them
Who was the group on the “debuts lots of groups”? I want to check them out!
theyre katseye, a global girl group produced from a survival show called dream academy. so they dont any kpop songs n they only hv two singles rn but theyre releasing their first ep on 16 august!
@@filaw-dd2kv thank you!
Doesn’t train them
Just because moka, sakura, eunchae are lacking in vocals that doesn't mean they doesn't train their idols lmao
@@strawberry-lm1rz bro the idol’s themselves said that hybe expect them improve themselves and give’s them little to no training
Cuz hybe doesn't give them songs in their ranges
fr, but you forgot the MAIN BAD POINT - their other artists VOCALS
don’t generalize seventeen has amazing vocalists
excuse me? I mean svt is not hybe, they will never be hybe.
Their all boy groups are literally stable and good while dancing .Companies has their own training process ,it's not a hybe problem .If it was pledis new boygroup tws would be horrible at vocals too since they debuted under hybe .I feel like Only bighit and pledis has vocal trainers since bts and txt also got good vocalist .
@@user-oj1pe2gt3z they are UNDER hybe not hybe .
Hybe It's just better in bg. But such groups TXT and ENHYPEN have too busy schedules. Remember Wonhee from ILLIT, Hyein from NEW JEANS, Jay from ENHYPEN, Beomgyu from TXT have suffered an injury to your legs, knees or ankle.TXT and ENHYPEN literally squeeze them out. Even ENHYPEN in one of the In their recent interviews, they said that they want to take a break.The entire TXT group (except Hyening Kai) fainted alone during the Act:promise tour. One fainted, the second was bleeding from the nose.They do not want to promote the group solo. Remember when ENHYPEN first debuted,Hate was poured on them. The group has makne 14-15 old. From this company debuted ILLIT when they were subjected to hate, their protectionThey defended it out of hate.On Twitter, HYBE almost did not no TXT. This is the band native group of HYBE (Big hit of the main company Hybe, BTS AND TXT, Lee Hyun from Big hit). ENHYPEN is so talented group. But a non-rascal will write on them Undisclosed Song.
Sorry that it turned out to be such a long comment. I can't hide my disappointment with Hybe. This is especially true for my ultimate group (TXT, ENHYPEN)
If there are errors, then sorry. English is not my native language. 😢
ILLIT fans comments here
The only good thing of hybe are the artist
Fr
Facts
A bad thing abt them is they don’t know how make songs based on the artist’s range, and they also don’t promote the other groups well. Ex. Fromis_9. Plus, they also overwork their idols. :(
Yea, especially since HYBE is known for “believing in music” so they create it but make the idols fit into it unlike creating the music to fit them
HYBE: we believe in music not in talent 😊
So true 😅
Its not hybe in ru next its belift
I'm literally so fed up by people that keep trolling HYBE for vocals and debuting minors and "overworking" idols. Le sserafim and illit ARE NOT the only groups under HYBE, after all, not all of le sserafim and illit members can't sing, they improved. It's minors will to debut, they became a trainee to debut, it obviously doesn't matter to them how old they are, so HYBE doesn't force minors to debut, if they became trainees what do you expect HYBE to do? Send them home? No, they will debut them. And EVERY but EVERY single company overworks their idols, and being injured doesn't mean being overworked. If you break a leg, that just means you fell during practice, you guys talk like staff under HYBE who train them pushes them to break their leg, and always blaming HYBE.
They disrespect fromis_9 😢😢😢😢
Nooooo wony is not only urs hes mine too (no hate )
Last point is not realistic. No offense but wins in music shows only reflect the fan base not the quality of the songs. Popularity has never been the same as quality and I don't say this as a jab or anything to anyone, it's just a fact.
Wins and views mean absolutely nothing except, maybe, how compromised the fans are with their idols.
And no, I'm not hating on no one, I'm just pointing out how those numbers work.
katseye only hybe girlgroup that can actually sing😂
@@sighmoonsays ohh really have you heard about fromis_9 ...
They also have very stable vocals so please have full info without including the whole damn unit
seventeen...? newjeans...? txt....?? fromis...????
@@sighmoonsays if you don't know about fromis_9 then stfu ...
Because fromis_9 is the only gg of hybe with great vocalist dancers songs visuals choreographies etc...
So get the full info before including the whole damn unit
@@vizennsorry but they said girl groups
@@reneekan3002 yeah fromis & njs lol
They treat there idols like shit
u forgot overworking and debuting too many minors😭
My baddddd 😭 ill add it into the next part
Bads bc u forgot these:
Overworking them
Giving some of them NASTY dormrooms (ex: minji)
Making minors twerk
Debuting wayyyy to many minors
Wasting their talents
Not defending the idols
Part 2 at 20 likes
We dont know if they overwork them+debuting minors isthe minors choice dont blame the company the damn minors chose to debut
@@delena-nl4zgu are right, but some of them are overworked
Nowadays debuting minors is such a common thing almost all companies have minors in their groups and hybe actually defend their idols most of the time
@@abdullahxiteck5611Ok, Im sorry for mistake but Im just saying about MOST of time
@@delena-nl4zgblame both?
Have you actually used your brain and considered they release songs at the same time for shows so the company has a better chance of winning through whichever group wins so they can earn the money and fame.
good’s of hybe: debuting BTS and gfriend
bads of hybe: debuting illit+disbanding gfriend+not giving a great treatment for talented groups like fromis_9
old hybe was literally a beast with monster groups in it
Hybe is only good in concepts and songs 💀
Bro im tired of gg there is sm gg like when is a bg gonna debut like gg keep debuting like im tired of this shit
For real
You forgot something: most of their idols CANNOT sing.
Exactly! Especially the ones that debuted after big hit became hybe. Companies that joined hybe but already had groups before joining 'em are good but i can't say the same for the rest.
Just bc Le sserafim can't sing doesn't mean the whole hybe can't
Only hybe ggs have that problem all the BG can sing pretty well and they're also very stable too
@@noonatdawnno Enhypen Tws bnd katseye they all are really good the problem is mostly with ggs
@@abdullahxiteck5611 that's what I was trynna say. I can't say the same for all the groups, but I know some groups are good.
Enhypen, bnd, katseye they're all good. And tws is from Pledis and Pledis 'knows' how to train their idols so it was expected that they were good. And it's also true the core problem lies in the Hybe ggs 💀
You forgot horrible vocals
Only sakura kazuha eunchae. That's all. And no not illit magnetic just wasnt their range
Not all hybe groups can't sing, just say you hate hybe and leave
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Or
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