Love the Nissan hardbody! Likewise on the S4 vs S5, i'm also 73" and fall between sizes on every single frame up i've built. After riding current generation larges for last two years i'm back on an XL and it feels fantastic. Turning 40 soon and stability has become more important that playfulness. But damn, this Trans Sentinel is still super playful in XL!
Yo.. one of the best Stumpy reviews on the planet atm 🌎 Everyone else talks about one size and how it feels, this is so much more valuable seeing what size one could choose and why it changes a bikes feel. Anyhow sick riding and great vid and comparison with honest feedback and future changes that could be had!
Been watching your vids for ages and bought an S5 rear end for my previous gen alloy StumpyEvo (S4) off the back of your chat about front to rear ratios (Banshee Titan video?) I've found for my 5'8" height a reach of 450 and a front to rear center ratio of about 1.7 is pretty perfect, you feel really in the middle of the bike like it's pivoting around your hips, also the 453mm chain stay on the S5 let's me run my bars pretty high. It's super fun playing around with the StEvos, imo they went backwards by making the CS shorter on the latest edition. Longer CS and a higher BB would keep the stability but make the bike nimble I think. Keep the videos coming, geeking out on the handling is ace.
I’m 6’1” as well, 500-510 reach seems to be my sweet spot and I tend to like a more front weighted fit than most so I’m usually running an extra 10mm in stem length than others on the same size.
I'm 6'4" (194cm) and I'm on the S5. If you look at the size charts it would say S6 but if I put in my height and lower leg length into the Specialized calculator it said S5. I'm happy with mine. I had to mess with the bars a bit at first to get it comfortable but now that I've got it right, it feels good.
Excited to experiment with the longer chainstays! I'm between the S5 and S6, and I found the S5 to be the perfect compromise. While I really like the Genie shock, the Stumpjumper EVO had slightly better geometry for my liking.
crazy how much geo has changed. Especially seat tube angle. My old 2013 GT force LE has a ETT of 615mm yet the reach is 420mm which is the same as the s2 with its 573mm ETT.
Here's a question that could be a video; how much does wheelbase vs other geo impact ride characteristics? For context, I'm currently riding a fairly heavily modified Ripmo af and I'm considering getting the new Rocky Altitude. I test rode the Altitude in a large, and it was a plow machine, but I'd only want to ride that bike in the park or really gnarly terrain. I was considering riding a medium instead for something more well rounded. The geo comparison is that my L Ripmo has a wheelbase of around 1240 from being over forked (1237 stock), a HT of 64.4 with a chainstay of 435 and reach around 473. The altitude would have a 1247 wheelbase (medium frame, long reach cup position) but with a 63.8 HT, reach of 463 and chainstay of 440. Given that the total length is very similar, but with notable differences in other core geo figures, will I notice much of an improvement to stability looking at the medium Altitude when compared to the large Ripmo AF, or is stability largely just a function of wheelbase?
Nice review! After riding the stumpy for a while are you still riding the 150 fork? And how is the wheelset on the expert build? Just bought the expert build but didn’t received yet!
I'm thinking of picking one of these up in the near future, and I'm 5'11 for reference. Im more of a playful rider, but I still like to get down in the rough. Do you think an s4 or s5 would be better for me since I'm right inbetween sizes?
I’m 6’1 and always go for the smaller option. 475ish reach is sweetspot, modern bikes are so good you need to be a rly unskilled rider or dh racer to want a bigger one imo
Love the Nissan hardbody! Likewise on the S4 vs S5, i'm also 73" and fall between sizes on every single frame up i've built. After riding current generation larges for last two years i'm back on an XL and it feels fantastic. Turning 40 soon and stability has become more important that playfulness. But damn, this Trans Sentinel is still super playful in XL!
I had a 1994 king kab 4x4 up until 2012, but since I live in Quebec it didn't have any body left 😂
Yo.. one of the best Stumpy reviews on the planet atm 🌎
Everyone else talks about one size and how it feels, this is so much more valuable seeing what size one could choose and why it changes a bikes feel. Anyhow sick riding and great vid and comparison with honest feedback and future changes that could be had!
Thank you!
Been watching your vids for ages and bought an S5 rear end for my previous gen alloy StumpyEvo (S4) off the back of your chat about front to rear ratios (Banshee Titan video?)
I've found for my 5'8" height a reach of 450 and a front to rear center ratio of about 1.7 is pretty perfect, you feel really in the middle of the bike like it's pivoting around your hips, also the 453mm chain stay on the S5 let's me run my bars pretty high.
It's super fun playing around with the StEvos, imo they went backwards by making the CS shorter on the latest edition. Longer CS and a higher BB would keep the stability but make the bike nimble I think.
Keep the videos coming, geeking out on the handling is ace.
I was thinking of doing that to an older evo as well. Stoked it’s been working for you.
How did you get a hold of the S5 chainstays if you don’t mind me asking? I have an S4 and have been looking on eBay and PB for S5 stays.
@@howejohn1 specialized dealer can order it for you
@@howejohn1 I ordered it from my local specialized dealer
Thanks so much, i am researching into my next bike and this size comparison is exactly what i was looking for
I’m 6’1” as well, 500-510 reach seems to be my sweet spot and I tend to like a more front weighted fit than most so I’m usually running an extra 10mm in stem length than others on the same size.
I'm 6'4" (194cm) and I'm on the S5. If you look at the size charts it would say S6 but if I put in my height and lower leg length into the Specialized calculator it said S5. I'm happy with mine. I had to mess with the bars a bit at first to get it comfortable but now that I've got it right, it feels good.
Thank you for the video Brian
And thank you for the comment Ryan
I want to use this opportunity to thank my friend Dominic in Switzerland for talking to me earlier.
Excited to experiment with the longer chainstays! I'm between the S5 and S6, and I found the S5 to be the perfect compromise. While I really like the Genie shock, the Stumpjumper EVO had slightly better geometry for my liking.
Agree on the StEvo geo being better. Genie on the StEvo would be killer, but I heard it absolutely does not fit
@@HighsideClydereally? I've seen a lot of Evo frames for sale with the genie equipped.
crazy how much geo has changed. Especially seat tube angle. My old 2013 GT force LE has a ETT of 615mm yet the reach is 420mm which is the same as the s2 with its 573mm ETT.
i love you this is what i needed
your slashing the corners harder on the S5!!!! You look faster and smoother on the S5 as well...
Not to me, looks less agile and less fun. And unless you race for a living riding should be more about the fun
i mean it's pretty obvious in the video he's doing everything much more confidently on the s5@@DandyHippo
Here's a question that could be a video; how much does wheelbase vs other geo impact ride characteristics? For context, I'm currently riding a fairly heavily modified Ripmo af and I'm considering getting the new Rocky Altitude. I test rode the Altitude in a large, and it was a plow machine, but I'd only want to ride that bike in the park or really gnarly terrain. I was considering riding a medium instead for something more well rounded. The geo comparison is that my L Ripmo has a wheelbase of around 1240 from being over forked (1237 stock), a HT of 64.4 with a chainstay of 435 and reach around 473. The altitude would have a 1247 wheelbase (medium frame, long reach cup position) but with a 63.8 HT, reach of 463 and chainstay of 440. Given that the total length is very similar, but with notable differences in other core geo figures, will I notice much of an improvement to stability looking at the medium Altitude when compared to the large Ripmo AF, or is stability largely just a function of wheelbase?
Time to get your hands on a dreadnought v2. You know you miss riding one 😏
how tall is drew? great review
Nice review! After riding the stumpy for a while are you still riding the 150 fork? And how is the wheelset on the expert build? Just bought the expert build but didn’t received yet!
The wheels have been solid. I’m still running it at 150
I have a stumpy15 in s4, what dropper you running? Did you swap the stock 200mm for something longer?
I'm thinking of picking one of these up in the near future, and I'm 5'11 for reference. Im more of a playful rider, but I still like to get down in the rough. Do you think an s4 or s5 would be better for me since I'm right inbetween sizes?
How are the maven brakes? Do they seem overkill unless you are a downhill or enduro racer or just really heavy?
Does the Stumpjumper 15 have the same adjustable geometry as the Stumpjumper Evo?
If you had to choose one bike? SJ15 or Forbidden Druid V2?
Hard to say. Check my video I did comparing them.
Did you order a Frameworks?
I have not
I actually felt nervous watching you ride your friend's bike. I kept imagining me riding my friend's bike and crashing it.
Did you just contact Specialized to purchase the longer chainstays?
Yeah, is this possible? S4 with S5 rear?
Is it actually a different chainstay or just different from the kinematic connection points?
on that track, which size are you fastest (s4 or s5)?
S5 for sure
What head angle are you running?
Stock
I’m 6’1 and always go for the smaller option. 475ish reach is sweetspot, modern bikes are so good you need to be a rly unskilled rider or dh racer to want a bigger one imo
im 6ft, The s4 is to small for me on anything more than jumping around a parking lot.
Unrelated to the video but I’m thinking about getting a new fork for my bronson. Thoughts on lyrik ultimate vs Fox factory?
I don’t have enough experience with them to make a good recommendation. My preference has been with rock shox recently though.
Wooahhh did you just say a BMX is hard to manual? Dang, that's a hot take if ever I've heard one.