You look like you’re having a lot of fun on that ride. I’d be curious to compare this bike against the new I is ripley/ripmo that is launching. Great review here. 😂
I'm really curious about the 15 alloy fox coil. Do you think you'll be able to do a review of that? I haven't been able to find a single review, a d the main thing you hear about with the 15s is the genie, which doesn't apply on the coil.
Very good review! Would you prefer to have a 160mm fork or do you say the 150mm in combination with the Genie damper is right on spot? Asking especially for rough (landings) rock gardens and stuff. But according to the video you seemed to be very happy with that configuration... And what about the carbon rims? Do you've got any comparison to alloy wheels in the meantime?
How does it compare to the current Hightower? Sounds pretty similar, and I really like the new rear sus design. Very clean and likely lighter and quicker.
Specialized 2.3's are really closer to 2.4. Eliminator/Butcher combo has very good grip, but slow rolling and a drag uphill. I still use 'em for park days. Just mounted up a set of Schwalbe: Wicked Will Super Trail Speedgrip rear and Tacky Chan Super Trail Soft front. Absolutely sick combo, but not cheap. At least as fast rolling as Maxxis Rekon/Dissector combo, but much more grip.
@@bthomas518 I had the 2019 Stumpjumper Comp Carbon 29" and that came with 2.6" tyres and now I have a Mondraker Crafty R with 2.6" tyres and just got my Stumpjumper 15 Expert about 2 weeks ago and honestly, the 2.3" tyres are not much smaller at all. I wouldn't worry about it. Also if you want to put bigger tyres on, there is space for up to about a 2.5". And on the flip side, 2.3" tyres are lighter so easier to pedal.
Being a short travel guy like myself, did you prefer last year’s stumpy when you factor in weight and price? Also, what made you go from your top fuel to a fuel?
The advantage of trying to find an aftermarket genie, which I assume will be impossible, is that it won't affect pedaling as much... To me this looks like a slightly smaller Evo with a fancy shock. Not much changed
The main stress on the linkage behind the seat post and under your seat is the flexiest application of the Horst 4 bar link. I have been on Spesh Stumpys and Enduros for decades and gone through bushings and pivot bolts breaking or wearing out constantly. The clevis design sucks bc there is too much lateral torque when pedaling. My Rocky Mountain Instinct has has a one piece carbon seat stay that goes around the seat tube and all linkage is under you body weight when leaning onto the bars. Not under your ass. This bike looks as if Spseh is cutting engineering payroll. "Innovate until you die!"
Just snagged what I assume is the last s4 22’ stumpjumper comp alloy for 2500. Thinking at this point stumps will be out of my price bracket. It’s like what Chevy did to the Corvette. No longer an everyday man’s bike.
I wish they sold that colourway in my country. I really like the mint green one too though. Plus I don't think I would splash out for the Pro model. Expert is good enough for me.
I've found personally that the 140 ish rear travel is about right for almost all situation except for like big bike park stuff...but I never ride that and not into jump lines. Blacks and double blacks...no problem, blues...piece of cake...seems the 30ish lbs bike is the norm for trail bikes. Nice looking bike though, bravo Specialized for making less choices! I also have the Mavens on my bike, they are crazy good, I love having more power then less.
How do you compare the Epic Evo to this new stumpy ? I am coming from a Megatower looking for an XC/Trail bike as my analog bike now for more efficiency on the climbs and was about to go with the Epic Evo or an SB120. But now wondering if this new stumpy setup in the high Geo setting might be the best of both ? Is there any overlap between the two bikes having ridden both ?
@@jctrails no I sold the Megatower. Have been riding mainly road bikes and some road racing this past year but missing my mountain bikes. Most of the guys I rode with have moved to E-MTBs for the enduro riding now. I might get an Emtb for the downhill laps eventually but right now I want a mountain bike that I can have some long mornings in the saddle on while also setting some good serpent times and jumping off any jump I can find on the way down. I know the epic will require you to pick a line and I don’t mind that as I’m an active rider with a motocross background. But I’m wondering now if this new Stumpy might be efficient enough on flat roads and climbs (in other words a lot better than the Mega or any enduro bike ). The other option I’m looking at is the SB120 as CC has some crazy deals on at the moment (5999 for u Turq model with factory suspension and X01 ). Not sure which one to go for !
@@brian6speed wondering if this bike will suit me for everyday trail riding and still handle occasional bike park riding. Not sure if the Epic Evo 8 can do that
Looks great but that model is not in 99.9% of trail riders budget who are looking for a new bike! Canyon and YT offer much better deals on similar bikes.
I’m 6’0”. All legs with a 34” inseam. 18” tibia measurement. Specialized recommends the S5 for me. I’ve been riding a large Rocky Mountain. Any suggestions?
Hopefully still relevant. I'm 185cm (use real units for Christ's sake), riding an S4 Evo. I imagine S5 would be more stable and planted, but you're not buying a Stumpy if you need a downhill bike, right?
Glad they did away with the 2 model lineup. If you need more bike just go Enduro. Looks sexy as hell. Only (major) downside is no mechanical shifting. I ride a lot, but won't buy this because I just prefer to leave batteries out of my cycling and prefer Shimano. I know I am not alone and hope they come out with a V2.0 that allows for mechanical shifting.
How’s that dropper post insertion depth? Think you would be able to fit a 210 in the S4? Seems like specialized has a tough time figuring that out. Nice review.
Alright. I know you said you wouldn’t sell an evo to get it but if you can only have one bike, does that change your mind. I’m looking for the best all arounder and the 4 spacers in that genie might be the reason I can feel close to down country and then adjust to feel closer to the evo. Is that a bad misconception?
@@kentao4 hmm… it’s still not a top fuel or epic evo but it feels light like one. The stumpy Evo has a more planted and heavy feel to it, more Enduro bike. So I guess if I could only have one bike it would be the 15.
@@jctrailsone more curveball. ‘23 stumpy pro is on sale. I can get one for 5800. Does that change your mind at all? I have a set of Roval controls for pedal days and it comes with the carbon traverses for the fun days. What do you think?
How tall are you? I´m 5'6 and i have a S2 Enduro, but want to change to the new Stumpy. The Enduro S2 has 437mm reach and the S2 Stumpjumper 425mm. I believe that the 450mm reach of the S3 will be too long for me.
I am your same height and also ride a Large epic evo 8 but I am thinking of going with the s3 on the stumpy. How do you feel on the sizing of both bikes?
@@ShredKC The L (S4)epic has a long top tube number, which allows you to breath on those flat sprint section. The M (S3)stumpy fits well. The wide bars high stack height and low BB spread you out in a different way.
I will help you figure that out with a series of questions. Do you jump or do big drops? Does your local trails require a lot of travel. Do you appreciate an efficient bike?
@@jctrails I do not currently do any big jumps or drops but I might if I get a Stumpy. I ride a 21' Epic Evo and love how fast it is (usually ride XC trails) so I'm leaning towards the Epic 8. I was just thinking with the new Stumpy I could try harder and more technical trails. Appreciate your reply!
@@norcalchrismeister You could hit jumps and drops on the evo..I have an Allied bc40 (very similar to epic evo) with a fox 34.. I rid that thing like an Enduro rig and it handles it like a champ while still climbing like a beast..If u still like to climb at all - go with the epic evo ..These new school Xc/trail rigs are far more capable than most give them credit for.
Put a 130 fox on it and upgrade rear to the new fox float sl factory.... It feels like a new bike and very capable. I did that to mine and have no desire to change it. I ride xc to enduro trails @@norcalchrismeister
It’s a different bike with the name stump jumper on it. The asymmetric design was a trademark. That’s like releasing a 911 with a different design language. You eat with your eyes first.
Not really. After all, the original iconic Stumpjumpers were steel rigid bikes -- no asymmetric frames there! If the name means anything other than mere marketing, it designates Specialized's all-around do everything trail bike rather than any specific technology.
Looking at the geo charts the BB height is slightly lower, Stack slightly higher, Reach couple mm longer. When measuring how "big" a bike feel I like to think about the distance from the pedals to my hands, meaning all the changes above will result in a slightly more bigger bike. Hope that helps.
@@lamgle Stumpjumper 15 S-Works €13.000 Stumpjumper 15 PRO €9.500 Stumpjumper 15 EXPERT €7.500 Stumpjumper 15 COMP €6.500 Stumpjumper 15 OHLINS €8.500 Stumpjumper 15 SW FRM €4.500 to much for me , for a bike i think 1000 euro is already alot
9,000 dollars you don’t need to worry about sizing for the average guy. If you think the “average guy” can justify that much for a bike, who are you hangin out with.
The real question is will they make another bomb proof alloy version with great components again !
Hopefully
It's been confirmed, so will be the one to go to avoid all these bespoke standards.
@@discostu333 I saw it posted on Pinkbike. Looks like the way to go.
The Stumpjumper is back!!!
You look like you’re having a lot of fun on that ride. I’d be curious to compare this bike against the new I is ripley/ripmo that is launching. Great review here. 😂
Also curious!
I'm really curious about the 15 alloy fox coil. Do you think you'll be able to do a review of that? I haven't been able to find a single review, a d the main thing you hear about with the 15s is the genie, which doesn't apply on the coil.
Would love to see a specialized chisel review on these trails!
Me too. I’m working on that as we speak
Very good review!
Would you prefer to have a 160mm fork or do you say the 150mm in combination with the Genie damper is right on spot?
Asking especially for rough (landings) rock gardens and stuff.
But according to the video you seemed to be very happy with that configuration...
And what about the carbon rims?
Do you've got any comparison to alloy wheels in the meantime?
How does it compare to the current Hightower? Sounds pretty similar, and I really like the new rear sus design. Very clean and likely lighter and quicker.
I've a V2 HT and am interested in know how the two compare as well!
Nice review! For the type of ride you did here, don’t you find 2.3” tires a bit too narrow? Personally, I’d love to see 2.6” tires on a Stumpjumper.
Specialized 2.3's are really closer to 2.4.
Eliminator/Butcher combo has very good grip, but slow rolling and a drag uphill. I still use 'em for park days.
Just mounted up a set of Schwalbe: Wicked Will Super Trail Speedgrip rear and Tacky Chan Super Trail Soft front. Absolutely sick combo, but not cheap. At least as fast rolling as Maxxis Rekon/Dissector combo, but much more grip.
@@bthomas518 I had the 2019 Stumpjumper Comp Carbon 29" and that came with 2.6" tyres and now I have a Mondraker Crafty R with 2.6" tyres and just got my Stumpjumper 15 Expert about 2 weeks ago and honestly, the 2.3" tyres are not much smaller at all. I wouldn't worry about it. Also if you want to put bigger tyres on, there is space for up to about a 2.5". And on the flip side, 2.3" tyres are lighter so easier to pedal.
Another great review !!!!!
@@walterkasper467 thanks
I was waiting patiently for this review....😂
Wait no longer!
@@jctrails I ordered a Stumpjumper Evo should be here tomorrow, I might have to send it back 😂
@@RomeyRome413 I wonder if you will be able to order a genie shock for the Evo. That would help it perform better.
@@jctrails that's a great idea
@@RomeyRome413 I think you will be plenty stoked, enjoy what you have, its a nice bike!
Being a short travel guy like myself, did you prefer last year’s stumpy when you factor in weight and price? Also, what made you go from your top fuel to a fuel?
The shock makes sense... I bottom out my Stumpy Evo alllll the time.
Have you tried the cascade link?
No, but that's probably not a bad idea.
The advantage of trying to find an aftermarket genie, which I assume will be impossible, is that it won't affect pedaling as much...
To me this looks like a slightly smaller Evo with a fancy shock.
Not much changed
@@kinch04 Yep
The main stress on the linkage behind the seat post and under your seat is the flexiest application of the Horst 4 bar link. I have been on Spesh Stumpys and Enduros for decades and gone through bushings and pivot bolts breaking or wearing out constantly. The clevis design sucks bc there is too much lateral torque when pedaling. My Rocky Mountain Instinct has has a one piece carbon seat stay that goes around the seat tube and all linkage is under you body weight when leaning onto the bars. Not under your ass. This bike looks as if Spseh is cutting engineering payroll. "Innovate until you die!"
Just snagged what I assume is the last s4 22’ stumpjumper comp alloy for 2500. Thinking at this point stumps will be out of my price bracket. It’s like what Chevy did to the Corvette. No longer an everyday man’s bike.
I wish they sold that colourway in my country. I really like the mint green one too though. Plus I don't think I would splash out for the Pro model. Expert is good enough for me.
I have a 2021 S Works I did not think it would get better. Suspension must be dialed in on all SJs. My 16 S Works 27.5 is a beast on tight trails.
@@maxmartz4665 The 21 flex stay bike is a more efficient bike. So if you prioritize efficiency, it’s a better bike for you.
Good work 👍🏻 Looks like a fun do it all bike.
@@livefreeandshred9818 that’s exactly what it is. The do it all bike, I think you would enjoy riding it.
I've found personally that the 140 ish rear travel is about right for almost all situation except for like big bike park stuff...but I never ride that and not into jump lines. Blacks and double blacks...no problem, blues...piece of cake...seems the 30ish lbs bike is the norm for trail bikes. Nice looking bike though, bravo Specialized for making less choices! I also have the Mavens on my bike, they are crazy good, I love having more power then less.
Mavens.....finally SRAM has matched Shimano brakes. Welcome to the club!
How do you compare the Epic Evo to this new stumpy ? I am coming from a Megatower looking for an XC/Trail bike as my analog bike now for more efficiency on the climbs and was about to go with the Epic Evo or an SB120. But now wondering if this new stumpy setup in the high Geo setting might be the best of both ? Is there any overlap between the two bikes having ridden both ?
Are you keeping your Mega? If so I would go with the Epic. If not get a stumpy.
@@jctrails no I sold the Megatower. Have been riding mainly road bikes and some road racing this past year but missing my mountain bikes. Most of the guys I rode with have moved to E-MTBs for the enduro riding now. I might get an Emtb for the downhill laps eventually but right now I want a mountain bike that I can have some long mornings in the saddle on while also setting some good serpent times and jumping off any jump I can find on the way down. I know the epic will require you to pick a line and I don’t mind that as I’m an active rider with a motocross background. But I’m wondering now if this new Stumpy might be efficient enough on flat roads and climbs (in other words a lot better than the Mega or any enduro bike ). The other option I’m looking at is the SB120 as CC has some crazy deals on at the moment (5999 for u Turq model with factory suspension and X01 ). Not sure which one to go for !
Epic 8 Evo sounds perfect for your needs
Remember when Aluminum was all the rage? Still pretty good imo, I just can't Pony up the money for a carbon mtb
I wanna get it but damn my levo sl is sooo fun. What do you think.
The bike looks bad ass, although a little pricey. You didn’t talk too much about the climbing, how does it compare to other bikes?
if you want good climbing the epic or chisel would be better options.
@@brian6speed wondering if this bike will suit me for everyday trail riding and still handle occasional bike park riding. Not sure if the Epic Evo 8 can do that
It climbs great. Really nice traction through rougher sections while still feeling light and efficient. Does it climb as well as xc bike no.
Looks great but that model is not in 99.9% of trail riders budget who are looking for a new bike! Canyon and YT offer much better deals on similar bikes.
Nice review. Could you test the genie shock on the SJ EVO? Thanks!
Won't fit
@@THRENO82 Why? Isnt it 210x55 in both cases?
@patrixdan2661 the shock will hit the side arm
What trails are these?
Stumpjumper 15 S-Works €13.000
Stumpjumper 15 PRO €9.500
Stumpjumper 15 EXPERT €7.500
Stumpjumper 15 COMP €6.500
Stumpjumper 15 OHLINS €8.500
Stumpjumper 15 SW FRM €4.500 wish i had more money
I’m 6’0”. All legs with a 34” inseam. 18” tibia measurement. Specialized recommends the S5 for me. I’ve been riding a large Rocky Mountain. Any suggestions?
@@jimbo6993 at 6’ I would recommend the S4 unless you like big feeling bikes.
Hopefully still relevant. I'm 185cm (use real units for Christ's sake), riding an S4 Evo. I imagine S5 would be more stable and planted, but you're not buying a Stumpy if you need a downhill bike, right?
Glad they did away with the 2 model lineup. If you need more bike just go Enduro. Looks sexy as hell. Only (major) downside is no mechanical shifting. I ride a lot, but won't buy this because I just prefer to leave batteries out of my cycling and prefer Shimano. I know I am not alone and hope they come out with a V2.0 that allows for mechanical shifting.
@@skibum1976 I hear ya I think they should of left the ports for mechanical shifting
How’s that dropper post insertion depth? Think you would be able to fit a 210 in the S4? Seems like specialized has a tough time figuring that out. Nice review.
@@LoamerMTB this S3 had a 185mm dropper. I could definitely fit a 200mm dropper and I’m only 5’10”
What's your weight? 80psi and 3 tokens sounds interesting...
Alright. I know you said you wouldn’t sell an evo to get it but if you can only have one bike, does that change your mind. I’m looking for the best all arounder and the 4 spacers in that genie might be the reason I can feel close to down country and then adjust to feel closer to the evo. Is that a bad misconception?
@@kentao4 hmm… it’s still not a top fuel or epic evo but it feels light like one. The stumpy Evo has a more planted and heavy feel to it, more Enduro bike. So I guess if I could only have one bike it would be the 15.
@@jctrailsone more curveball. ‘23 stumpy pro is on sale. I can get one for 5800. Does that change your mind at all? I have a set of Roval controls for pedal days and it comes with the carbon traverses for the fun days. What do you think?
@@kentao4did you decide on one and what did you go with?
What is the name of the Mtb park you ride at most of the time?
@@AOL0321 Highland
How tall are you? I´m 5'6 and i have a S2 Enduro, but want to change to the new Stumpy. The Enduro S2 has 437mm reach and the S2 Stumpjumper 425mm. I believe that the 450mm reach of the S3 will be too long for me.
Im 5’6 & I love my stumpy S3 evo, the s2 felt too much for me
I am your same height and also ride a Large epic evo 8 but I am thinking of going with the s3 on the stumpy. How do you feel on the sizing of both bikes?
@@ShredKC The L (S4)epic has a long top tube number, which allows you to breath on those flat sprint section. The M (S3)stumpy fits well. The wide bars high stack height and low BB spread you out in a different way.
@@jctrails could the stumpy be a do it all and climb well enough to ditch the epic evo 8?
Yeah but is it better than a Yeti SB4.5 tho ;)
Damn, you know nothing is better than that 4.5 James😛
Good work dude
Thanks!
Sram only Stumpjumper, kinda crazy but a good all around bike none the less.
Great review…where is that trail?
Pine hills in Plymouth, MA
Hey what would you recommend for a 5’11 /180cm dude looking for a nimble/balanced rig?
@@morgandewette4638 S4
I wouldn't say the most iconic Geez. Neither the most generic but somewhere in the middle 😂
Dang, now I'm not sure if I should get the new Stumpy or the Epic 8 lol
I will help you figure that out with a series of questions. Do you jump or do big drops? Does your local trails require a lot of travel. Do you appreciate an efficient bike?
@@jctrails I do not currently do any big jumps or drops but I might if I get a Stumpy. I ride a 21' Epic Evo and love how fast it is (usually ride XC trails) so I'm leaning towards the Epic 8. I was just thinking with the new Stumpy I could try harder and more technical trails. Appreciate your reply!
@@norcalchrismeister You could hit jumps and drops on the evo..I have an Allied bc40 (very similar to epic evo) with a fox 34.. I rid that thing like an Enduro rig and it handles it like a champ while still climbing like a beast..If u still like to climb at all - go with the epic evo ..These new school Xc/trail rigs are far more capable than most give them credit for.
Put a 130 fox on it and upgrade rear to the new fox float sl factory.... It feels like a new bike and very capable. I did that to mine and have no desire to change it. I ride xc to enduro trails @@norcalchrismeister
Hey. Do you think the new stumpy is better than the EVO?
@@Shredding-q1f yes just because of the Genie shock
@@jctrailsdo you think it’s worth getting it just for the genie or save money with the previous year closeouts?
how is this supoed to work? there are even no guides for rear mech cable .... lol ....
website shows T9 up front not sure why you have the T7 .
That’s what the bike had out of the box 🤷♂️
Seemed nice and quiet ?
It’s a different bike with the name stump jumper on it. The asymmetric design was a trademark. That’s like releasing a 911 with a different design language. You eat with your eyes first.
Not really. After all, the original iconic Stumpjumpers were steel rigid bikes -- no asymmetric frames there! If the name means anything other than mere marketing, it designates Specialized's all-around do everything trail bike rather than any specific technology.
In what way did it feel bigger? I’m also 5’10 and went S4 on the Evo, 35mm stem and cut the bars a little
@@TeeGareth don’t know it just felt bigger than my S3 Evo, even though the geo is the same as the Evo
@@jctrails interesting, you wouldn’t consider sizing up to S4 for yourself on this one then?
@@TeeGareth I’m going to try the S4 soon. I had a s4 Evo and felt big for me even with a 35mm stem
Looking at the geo charts the BB height is slightly lower, Stack slightly higher, Reach couple mm longer. When measuring how "big" a bike feel I like to think about the distance from the pedals to my hands, meaning all the changes above will result in a slightly more bigger bike. Hope that helps.
@@leejohnh22 that makes sense thanks!
Lynn Woods?
@@georgeandrew8388 pinehills
The real question is, is this bike any better than the old Stumpy Evo???
No
@@64Spokes Cause you ride it right? lol
@@markosilhard2326 don’t need to lol thing sucks on paper and don’t feel like paying 9k to corroborate that
It’s a better all rounder but I wouldn’t sell an Evo to buy this one.
Too many great bikes out there marked way down to spend this kind of money.
What trail this?
@@MountainDeweyMTB pinehills
I thought so, I didn’t recognize the first trail after the climb
how tall are you?
$9,000?? I’m out!
I'm out at 9k too. I ordered a Stumpjumper Evo Expert, got a good deal on it.
That’s cheap😜
There is a 5.5k version but it’s still expensive
@@lamgle Stumpjumper 15 S-Works €13.000
Stumpjumper 15 PRO €9.500
Stumpjumper 15 EXPERT €7.500
Stumpjumper 15 COMP €6.500
Stumpjumper 15 OHLINS €8.500
Stumpjumper 15 SW FRM €4.500 to much for me , for a bike i think 1000 euro is already alot
There is an aluminum model at $3000
9,000 dollars you don’t need to worry about sizing for the average guy. If you think the “average guy” can justify that much for a bike, who are you hangin out with.
I'll just buy a used one from fb marketplace for $2000 😂😂
Sounds like youre not impressed by the bike at all. Just the rear shock.
Well that’s because the rest of the bike feels like an Evo which was already impressive. Add a badass shock and you now have a winner
@@jctrails new tech from genie shock on 2021-2024 stumpy!
Another bike way out of my price range 😞
😢
9k lol ill pass
Don't worry there will be plenty of used ones for sale at like 65% lower places... Most of the used bikes come with mods and were barley used
@@MrWolf2212 not really the point i was making, also there new shot is just a fox with a meg neg lol
I would just get an Evo or a commencal this shit is stupidly over priced
Bike seems great but Im sorry but that paint is awful.
@@richiehoppie6945 I think looks cool in person
You rip.
@@JasonEdwards-d9x thanks 🤙
what a bad/strange paintjob
How tall are you?