Good to see you guys! I was worried about what had happened to you, always enjoy watching you both talk VR. Hope everything is okay and you'll be broadcasting more often again now.
Thanks, we pretty much just took the summer off. It was a busy summer but really enjoyed it. Now that the weather is cooling off, and getting dark earlier, will definitely be playing more VR again. Should be some more shows now too, at least 1 a month, maybe more.
So good to see you guys back! Tyler get yourself a good real car seat from a wreckers, I used to have the same problem with my back until I got a Recaro from a 1991 proton gti for $200au now it helps my back instead of hurting it!
Great to see you guys back! You need to get back into all the VR stuff again - there's so much going on. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on all the new things happening (glancing at my Rendered Reality mug on my shelf while I type this :) )
My 1st headset was cv1 and 2nd was the quest 2. I'm not a hard-core vr player but I did buy the quest 3 on day 1 and have been playing a lot these last few days. I bought it for iracing but have actually found normal vr games much more enjoyable on this headset primarily because of the clarity. I did buy the elite strap, stock strap is atrocious. Visual comfort improvement alone with the new lenses was worth the money, I can actually play for as long as the battery lasts and not have to constantly adjust the headset to keep it in focus. You can see how great these lenses are when you realize you can adjust the ipd 3 or 4 mm in either direction and have trouble telling if it did anything.
I just bought Drop Dead The Cabin in and Espire 2 to try their MR updates. I also bought Resist as it has a graphics upgrade for Q3. XR update has made a list of 70 MR games and there are a few surprises on there of games I already own like Thrill of the Fight, Synth Riders, Blaston and Eleven Table Tennis. They look great in MR!
I think it's nice to revisit classics games on new tech. Especially if the devs have upgraded them. You might see details you didn't see before because you are less focused on getting through the game and take more time to appreciate it. It's like listening to a classic record on hi end audio, you hear stuff you didn't notice before.
Wear a good pair of head phones put those on first then have the straps almost fully loose then put the headset on and have strap go over the heaphone cuffs makes it useable until we get something better at least i made my unbearable strap comfy since i own sony xm4 which are comfy
@@mamefan Yeah, aindex is starting to get a little bit dated now, and the wireless option is great. I haven't tried Quest 2 with VD yet, but I hear there or some new options and stuff for it. Looking forward to trying it.
THE STRAP - IS NOT that BAD. DONT BE SUCKED INTO BUYING ADD-ONS! In seriousness haha tho it's going to be very dependent on each person's which is proven as reviews on comfort are polarized. I've logged 10 hours over 3 prolonged sessions SO FAR.. I'm bald and have a medium-sized head. I have found it well balanced and comfortable without being hot (shocking more pads and coverage add more heat right!) My wife on the other hand. 10 minutes complained of pain on her neck and forehead. I said waaaa no way, took it off her resized her from scratch and 10 minutes later she said the same. We assumed for her it's just her head being smaller and narrower shaped than mine and you know I'm a male gamer and she's a real female 👀 so it would probably take some getting used counterbalance neck strength etc etc... Chill don't cancel ❌. Comfort 8\10 for me (what do u expect stock there is always upsells) Comfort 4\10 for my wife. She says a thicker more padded strap would be her style
The jury is still out on PSVR 2. It is only 8 months into its cycle and already has an impressive library. Sean was definitely wrong about that crappy HTC headset though. Just sayin 😮
Haha we were all excited about that HTC headset after trying it at CES. After getting more time with it, yeah it was a flop unfortunately. Seemed so promising too
For anyone watches or reads commenta i put my headphones on first and had hesdstraps loose almost fully maxed loose and then i put the headset on and put straps over my headphones cuffs im super comfy cause my sony xm4s are crazy comfy (which are expensive 250 dollars) it makes using crappy strap useable
Grey black LCD isn't 'naiing it' - Many of us can't even get into VR with non Local Dimming (or no OLED) displays. Quest Pro looks great colour and black level wise with LD ON (for me in wireless PCVR), I've used it more in 2 months than I used my quest 2 in 2 years (I didn't like the displays in that and it's the same low quality one in the Q3 as the Q2). Quest 3 is great but it doesn't negate the Pro for the higher end PCVR users who want better colours, blacks and the form factor (battery at back and no face gasket on the face). Q3 is better for standalone for sure. The only 'upgrade' for me from QPro now would be whatever valve does next (if it has micro OLED).
Quest Pro definitely doesn't have as much going for it, now thay Quest 3 is out and at a lower price. The Quest Pro does have the local dimming, which is pretty nice though, and controllers are a little bit better.
in time i do imagine the cheaper quest 3 headset will get bumped up to 256 gigs of storage because as with the 64 gig its not going to be useful for most gamers... this is my reason for waiting. they did it once and i can wait for this to come my way.
@@RenderedReality theres a newer one today on there with pictures of one printed and used (quest 3 BOBOVR M2 Pro adapter hiddekos October 14, 2023) gonna try them tomorrow
Timestamps thanks to FlukeRogi!!!
00:00 - Intro
00:45 - We're back!
06:20 - Wait, what - thank-you Susan!
08:55 - Quest 3
10:50 - Ditch the default head strap
14:45 - Where are the launch titles?
16:00 - Assassin's Creed Nexus
17:30 - Should you buy a Quest 3?
23:40 - Touch Plus controllers
25:25 - Mixed reality
30:00 - IPD adjustment / lens inserts
32:00 - Passthrough
35:05 - Piano Vision
36:45 - Tekken in mixed reality
38:20 - Lego Bricktales
39:05 - Play space limitations / Lynx R1
40:15 - Titles we need to try
42:00 - Arizona Sunshine 2
44:30 - Where are the PSVR2 exclusives?
46:20 - Mamut Apto with the Quest 3?
47:40 - Chat
51:45 - Ghostbusters: Rise of the Ghost Lord
53:30 - Controllers with accessories
54:25 - The Burst
56:25 - Yaw 2
57:45 - Stride Fates / Stack / Breachers
1:03:05 - Stormland
1:04:35 - Chat
1:24:25 - Show wrap-up
6:15 Wow, very nice hefty donation from Susan Cottrell and a priceless reaction from Shawn and Tyler
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I see im not the only one that awoke back up from my 3000 year slumber. Welcome back
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Fab to see you back on our screens again guys ❤
Good to have you ‘back’ and thanks for the great show!
Don't go away on us again. We missed you!! Quest 3 makes a new reason to play VR/MR again.
Haha it definitely felt good to be back, and Quest 3 has me pretty excited for VR
Great to see you guys back!!!
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Excellent discussions, gents! Glad to see you back at it!
Good to see you guys! I was worried about what had happened to you, always enjoy watching you both talk VR. Hope everything is okay and you'll be broadcasting more often again now.
Thanks, we pretty much just took the summer off. It was a busy summer but really enjoyed it. Now that the weather is cooling off, and getting dark earlier, will definitely be playing more VR again. Should be some more shows now too, at least 1 a month, maybe more.
Yes I want two hour shows
Haha maybe some day 🤣🤣
Great to have you guys back!
Thanks!!! 😁👍
So good to see you guys back! Tyler get yourself a good real car seat from a wreckers, I used to have the same problem with my back until I got a Recaro from a 1991 proton gti for $200au now it helps my back instead of hurting it!
That's a good idea!!
Just caught up on this video. Was on vacation in the UK. Welcome back guys! Missed you! Susan Cottrell really out did herself!
Great to see you guys back :)
Thanks, we really enjoyed doing a show!!
Great to see you guys back! You need to get back into all the VR stuff again - there's so much going on. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on all the new things happening (glancing at my Rendered Reality mug on my shelf while I type this :) )
Excited to be back in to some VR, looking forward to catching up on Recentered too!!!
Good to have y’all back!
Thanks!! 😁👍
My 1st headset was cv1 and 2nd was the quest 2. I'm not a hard-core vr player but I did buy the quest 3 on day 1 and have been playing a lot these last few days. I bought it for iracing but have actually found normal vr games much more enjoyable on this headset primarily because of the clarity. I did buy the elite strap, stock strap is atrocious. Visual comfort improvement alone with the new lenses was worth the money, I can actually play for as long as the battery lasts and not have to constantly adjust the headset to keep it in focus. You can see how great these lenses are when you realize you can adjust the ipd 3 or 4 mm in either direction and have trouble telling if it did anything.
I just bought Drop Dead The Cabin in and Espire 2 to try their MR updates. I also bought Resist as it has a graphics upgrade for Q3.
XR update has made a list of 70 MR games and there are a few surprises on there of games I already own like Thrill of the Fight, Synth Riders, Blaston and Eleven Table Tennis. They look great in MR!
I think it's nice to revisit classics games on new tech. Especially if the devs have upgraded them. You might see details you didn't see before because you are less focused on getting through the game and take more time to appreciate it. It's like listening to a classic record on hi end audio, you hear stuff you didn't notice before.
Based on my testing of it, Q3 will replace my Index once there's a good strap with replaceable batteries.
Wear a good pair of head phones put those on first then have the straps almost fully loose then put the headset on and have strap go over the heaphone cuffs makes it useable until we get something better at least i made my unbearable strap comfy since i own sony xm4 which are comfy
@@jessiestarr4600Thanks, but I'm not willing to wear anything on my ears again after having an Index for so long.
Dang, that's saying a lot coming from you. I have definitely been enjoying the Quest 3, definitely look9ng forward to a Bobo strap though.
@@RenderedRealityThe glare and lower res of Index are why. Also, wireless with VD appears to work flawlessly for me. Airlink was flawed.
@@mamefan Yeah, aindex is starting to get a little bit dated now, and the wireless option is great. I haven't tried Quest 2 with VD yet, but I hear there or some new options and stuff for it. Looking forward to trying it.
I was watching your guys in mr just usinging the browser
Haha thats awesome!!! I need to try that out.
The depth sensor is working, but not the occlusion, that is estimated to arrive around Christmas.
Oh gotcha, good to know!! Looking forward to the occlusion update
Sean, you need to try the globular cluster comfort mod for psvr2, makes it way more comfier.
I havent looked in to any of the PSVR2 comfort stuff lately. Glad to hear there are some options, I definitely think I need that lol
THE STRAP - IS NOT that BAD. DONT BE SUCKED INTO BUYING ADD-ONS!
In seriousness haha tho it's going to be very dependent on each person's which is proven as reviews on comfort are polarized.
I've logged 10 hours over 3 prolonged sessions SO FAR.. I'm bald and have a medium-sized head. I have found it well balanced and comfortable without being hot (shocking more pads and coverage add more heat right!)
My wife on the other hand. 10 minutes complained of pain on her neck and forehead. I said waaaa no way, took it off her resized her from scratch and 10 minutes later she said the same. We assumed for her it's just her head being smaller and narrower shaped than mine and you know I'm a male gamer and she's a real female 👀 so it would probably take some getting used counterbalance neck strength etc etc... Chill don't cancel ❌.
Comfort 8\10 for me (what do u expect stock there is always upsells)
Comfort 4\10 for my wife. She says a thicker more padded strap would be her style
The jury is still out on PSVR 2. It is only 8 months into its cycle and already has an impressive library. Sean was definitely wrong about that crappy HTC headset though. Just sayin 😮
Haha we were all excited about that HTC headset after trying it at CES. After getting more time with it, yeah it was a flop unfortunately. Seemed so promising too
For anyone watches or reads commenta i put my headphones on first and had hesdstraps loose almost fully maxed loose and then i put the headset on and put straps over my headphones cuffs im super comfy cause my sony xm4s are crazy comfy (which are expensive 250 dollars) it makes using crappy strap useable
You could use this trick with any headphones
Hmm thats pretty interesting, never thought of that.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but does the Quest Pro now seem redundant seeing as the Q3 has pretty much nailed it in near all aspects.
Grey black LCD isn't 'naiing it' - Many of us can't even get into VR with non Local Dimming (or no OLED) displays. Quest Pro looks great colour and black level wise with LD ON (for me in wireless PCVR), I've used it more in 2 months than I used my quest 2 in 2 years (I didn't like the displays in that and it's the same low quality one in the Q3 as the Q2).
Quest 3 is great but it doesn't negate the Pro for the higher end PCVR users who want better colours, blacks and the form factor (battery at back and no face gasket on the face). Q3 is better for standalone for sure. The only 'upgrade' for me from QPro now would be whatever valve does next (if it has micro OLED).
Quest Pro definitely doesn't have as much going for it, now thay Quest 3 is out and at a lower price. The Quest Pro does have the local dimming, which is pretty nice though, and controllers are a little bit better.
Also, face and eye tracking@@RenderedReality
@jtm7336 Oh yeah forgot about that too.
He’s right. No different from when the ps5 came out. There was no new game out.
in time i do imagine the cheaper quest 3 headset will get bumped up to 256 gigs of storage because as with the 64 gig its not going to be useful for most gamers... this is my reason for waiting. they did it once and i can wait for this to come my way.
Yeah, probably a good idea!!
Is it weird that I miss that intro?
Haha it's honestly been a while since I have heard that intro music.
bobovr STL 3d print on thingverse!
Have you tried it? I think Tyler tried to print one if them but said it was too thin or something.
@@RenderedReality theres a newer one today on there with pictures of one printed and used (quest 3 BOBOVR M2 Pro adapter
hiddekos
October 14, 2023) gonna try them tomorrow
@@RenderedReality also tom hall on printable has an stl as well with successfull prints
@@yokoh691 Awesome, thanks!!
@@RenderedReality good luck!
I have Pico4 and PSVR2 which is enough for me for now. Wait for more VOF and higher resolution than Quest3.
Yeah Pico 4 is pretty good headset really. I like Quest 3 a lot, but I dont know that it's a must have headset for everyone.
IPD slider is not even needed. It’s clear no matter where you set it
Sure it looks clear, but the eyestrain is real if you keep it set way off your IPD