to be honest i think this song is somehow more powerfull, simply because it simbolises their old pal down to a tee.....and it always gives me goosebumps seeing bernard sing it
This song is basically the blue print for for most of the alternative/indi rock that followed. I always thought Bernard's voice had that kind of cool, detached sound that made New Order songs so good. Even though they are the same people (without Ian Curtis), they really are two different bands style wise.
I really like how you described Bernard's voice. It's exactly how I've perceived it all those years, some kind of cold detached thing, that sort of adds a lot of atmosphere to the songs. Technically, he's not a good singer, but what he does goes very well with New Order's music.
@majerlet DEE DEE Ramone died around the time of this gig. See the video fro Ceremony from the same gig which is on here. Peter Hook says: "This one's for Dee Dee Ramone God rest his soul - he can keep Ian [Curtis] company until I get there".
I'm not going to complain that they are playing this song, of course. But I will say it's nothing like the original, Or at least the way it was with Ian. Ian brought a thick haze of melancholy to this (and all other) Joy Divisions tracks. Ian possessed this very special atmosphere, that died with him. After watching this video go and listen to a version with Ian.
I never understood why New Order always insists on screaming when they play this song live. It seems like they have turned it into a survival anthem for themselves. Love them all and RIP Ian.
would you all shut up and just enjoy it? Ian is gone. Ian has been gone, it's sad yes i know! but the legacy is so alive and kickin! this is beautiful!
New Order would not have been anything but a depressing "exploration" if he hadn't died. Same thing with Syd Barret from Pink Floyd. They were cancer, once gone, the bands thrived.
I just watched Hooky's band play this and New Order without Hooky playing it and they are so much better together, like in this video. Know it will never happen again but hey I can hope!!
gran cancion que nos dejo Ian Curtis , ojalas siguera vivo , pero bueno el esta vivo en todo los que lo conocemos y lo admiramos por lo que fue Q.E.P.D Ian tu legado siempre estara vivo
Peter Hook, and Stephen are the ones who are actually keeping the band. They should have found a better vocalist than bernard Sumner. not saying hes bad. but they would have been way better off if Bernard just stuck to lead guitar...
So the history of NO contradicts all you said... no? Almost all material from NO is, to talk minimum, divided by Bernard and Peter, and lyrics major by Bernard.
@El Viola Feos y quién te ha dicho que es mi pareja? Y a ti que te importa? Y por qué no te metes en tus asuntos? Y sí, ya sé que la traducción es "el amor nos desgarrará". Algo más que explicarte???
I recall a studyof suicide attempts. Many who tried (but failed, obviously) decided to do so within three minutes of the attempt. It was a spontaneity decision.
it's very common for drummers to do different beats live and in studio. the studio version has a very fast frantic beat that is both very tiring and easy to screw up live
I personally like Joy Division's the best, but they don't have Ian anymore so they can't do much. I mean, despite Bernard's singing (which is not bad at all) it is actually the closest that can even compare to the original. However, what I find funny, yet exciting is Peter at 0:09 .
![New Order - True Faith [FINSBURY PARK 9TH JUNE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/OmsJvJunOWA/mqdefault.jpg)
![New Order - True Faith [FINSBURY PARK 9TH JUNE]](/img/tr.png)
Nobody can't sing this song better then Ian Curtis ((
But he´s gone!!!
Dave Gahan can :)
@@Autsajder93 better 10000000 times Robert Smith
@@Autsajder93 true
Ian Curtis&Robert Smith
It is important that Ian's spirit lives on and that by playing his songs it shows respect to an amazing level.
Has he Died? I did not know
hookys scream says it all. Theres your spirit. RIP Ian
Actually I think you'll find Hooky was yelling "She's mine Richard!"
he has got the spirit
to be honest i think this song is somehow more powerfull, simply because it simbolises their old pal down to a tee.....and it always gives me goosebumps seeing bernard sing it
They've got the spirit and lost the feeling, feeling, feeling, feeling....
imtv wrong song
Kibbey TheForg I think he was just making a joy division reference hahahaha
crekk- oh 😂
WOW they can still do it! Ian Curtis will always be missed.
Has he Died,
Not often I give a thumbs up for a Joy Division Cover, but this is good. RIP Ian and RIP Tony
This song is basically the blue print for for most of the alternative/indi rock that followed. I always thought Bernard's voice had that kind of cool, detached sound that made New Order songs so good. Even though they are the same people (without Ian Curtis), they really are two different bands style wise.
I really like how you described Bernard's voice. It's exactly how I've perceived it all those years, some kind of cold detached thing, that sort of adds a lot of atmosphere to the songs. Technically, he's not a good singer, but what he does goes very well with New Order's music.
Agreed, especially the drum style of Stephen Morris which has become a staple of post-punk music
@majerlet DEE DEE Ramone died around the time of this gig.
See the video fro Ceremony from the same gig which is on here. Peter Hook says:
"This one's for Dee Dee Ramone God rest his soul - he can keep Ian [Curtis] company until I get there".
Awesome song, awesome tribute to an awesome guy. RIP Ian ❤
You can see in their Faces how much they miss Ian!
Love it when hooky shouts come on at the beginning
Dam right as its a song that should be heard in space. RIP Ian.
It's a war cry! 👊
Throughout the song it's Bernard who is shouting come on.
Wonderful tribute to Ian, to remember his spirit in song.
No matter who sings it. It is the absolute bollocks of a tune. Happy tears watching people lovin it.
New order 🙌🙌🙌. Unos de mis favoritos grupos del rock inglés. Temazo de Joy Division 😎🎸🎹🎤🎵🎼🎵
Legendary Ian Curtis and New Order! Big fan from Brazil since 80´s.
Incredible same drummer for more than 40 years.
Same guitarist and bassist..... ;-)
Brilliant live version of this
Удивительно, но ещё в школьные годы, более 30 лет назад, стал слушать DJ.. Привет из Калининграда, Россия..
fuckin brilliant hooky should still be with them!!!
Hooky's a big daft twat and needs to wake up before its too late.
Mark Simon Hooky's doing their songs much more justice with The Light.
agree, saw them last year and they were brilliant!
Kevin Taylor bless you bud. Theres a massive hole left without hooky
One thing Music complete load of shit
i meant to say stephen and peter are the ones keeping it alive
Agree, Bernard is New Order vocals and never Joy Division, pretty poor as he seems to want the song as his own but it can never be. RIP Ian
No me cansaré jamás de oír este tema inmortal de Ian Curtis
Si no la ponen en mi funeral, no pienso asistir!!
One of the greatest songs 🎵 of all time!!!
Total respect , still keeping that world view , beautiful
Not bad, but I think Peter Hook does a better job singing it.
😲 I have NEVER heard HIM SINGING IT 😕 🤷🏻♂️
Jamie HILLIER you gotta check him out doing it with his new band, The Light.
@@1972BoNeZ666 ruclips.net/video/UM1nrDwpbS4/видео.html
this video makes me openly sob sometimes, its absolutely brilliant
@@adamgorsky8422 BEAUTIFUL..
@@adamgorsky8422 That's was wonderful
when i listen this song.ahhhh i miss you Ian!!!rest in peace.
Bernard Sumner is an example of a singing carrier without having a singing voice.
nikko Chatzisomething love new order but can’t argue with this 😂
Best Song! Wonderful version
I have to admit this show was incredible. Still think they should have called it a day after this. In the 80s they were the greatest band ever for me.
I'm not going to complain that they are playing this song, of course. But I will say it's nothing like the original, Or at least the way it was with Ian. Ian brought a thick haze of melancholy to this (and all other) Joy Divisions tracks. Ian possessed this very special atmosphere, that died with him. After watching this video go and listen to a version with Ian.
I never understood why New Order always insists on screaming when they play this song live. It seems like they have turned it into a survival anthem for themselves. Love them all and RIP Ian.
Más de 30 años tocando la misma canción... aún, es genial!
Ah the mudfest. Rained all day and the sun came out for New Order.
This is actually really good! :D
I agree. I don't know what people are complaining about . If they choose to do JD songs, someone has to man up and sing them.
I DO NOT like this at all - I ADORE IT !!!
Thanks for uploading
xxx
I cannot find the words to express... the song title says it all. Ye Olde fans know what I mean and I love you all.
Este tema si que es para morirse!!! No pasa el tiempo por él. Imprescindible!!!
would you all shut up and just enjoy it? Ian is gone. Ian has been gone, it's sad yes i know! but the legacy is so alive and kickin! this is beautiful!
New Order would not have been anything but a depressing "exploration" if he hadn't died. Same thing with Syd Barret from Pink Floyd. They were cancer, once gone, the bands thrived.
LOTS to enjoy here.
@@usertubeification Good point. Never thought of that.
i guarantee you have never experienced drumming like this before
And I never want to again
I show this video my beloved girl 2 days before we departed...
I just watched Hooky's band play this and New Order without Hooky playing it and they are so much better together, like in this video. Know it will never happen again but hey I can hope!!
gran cancion que nos dejo Ian Curtis , ojalas siguera vivo , pero bueno el esta vivo en todo los que lo conocemos y lo admiramos por lo que fue Q.E.P.D Ian tu legado siempre estara vivo
joy division ...new order... and go the beautiful music
Imagine what they could have done with Ian Curtis
SO MUCH, IT WILL 💔💔
It's a celebration of what they did with Ian. That's got to be something to celebrate?
Sending this to Petra in Norberg
Joy división for ever
I actually like when Bernard and Peters yell, "COME ON!!!!!". Anybody else with me?
YES!!!!
QQQQ Hermozooooo temaaaaaaaaa resien la escucho y me encanto escucharla verdaderamente qqqq hermozooooo
@cph1982 So THAT'S what he said - been trying to decipher what the second bit was for the longest time. Cheers!
Painful. But God bless you for trying & keeping it going
Bernard es lo masssss!!!
New order Joiy como pode tanta coisa boa em duas maravilhosas bandas
this is
luhv
wil
teah
uhs
apat
Love the rickenbacker 🤘
Thankyou!!
Dee Dee Ramone died on the 5th june 2002..this gig was on the 9th june 2002.
Ian curtis o melhor do mundo valeu por ter existido tão pouco mas valeu
los 1 que buena era mi época
los mejores de mi época
Peter Hook, and Stephen are the ones who are actually keeping the band. They should have found a better vocalist than bernard Sumner. not saying hes bad. but they would have been way better off if Bernard just stuck to lead guitar...
So the history of NO contradicts all you said... no?
Almost all material from NO is, to talk minimum, divided by Bernard and Peter, and lyrics major by Bernard.
I love New Order, but I've never been much of a fan of Bernard's voice. In all honesty, I think Peter Hook is a better singer
Bernard is NOT a gifted vocalist. And yet, he was perfect and I wouldn't want it any other way. Don't figure.
Joy division é eterno
STEVE MORRIS ON DRUMS
Hook is a fucking madman hahaha i love him
love the rickenbacker
PARA EL MI ALDO CON MUCHISIMO CARIÑO Y APRECIO TIO!!!😘😘😘
@El Viola Feos y quién te ha dicho que es mi pareja? Y a ti que te importa? Y por qué no te metes en tus asuntos? Y sí, ya sé que la traducción es "el amor nos desgarrará". Algo más que explicarte???
Memorável!!!!!!
Great bass
nice love the version
The tempos too fast for this particular rendition. Still good!
Hooky should've sang the joy division songs because I think he sounds a lot closer to Ian than barney!
I like it...
Ian never die
remember,and Never forget I.C.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
imagine how hard it must be for Bernard to sing Ians autobioghraphical lyrics ..he must struggle with it.
Awwwe...RIP Ian curtis
awh come on maan this is New Order here and now, not Joy Division.. If you know what I mean
Back when New Order was New Order.
Una vida tragica pero dejaste mucho
but is that stephen morris ?
It says "DEE DEE" in the background! how do they mean!
The 2 bass cabinets say “Bye bye Dee Dee”. Honoring the bassist for The Ramones, who had recently died then.
shit, they where realy psyched up there, its a pity that the voice is so nervous to make mistakes. the crowd appreciated, thats what counts .
Rip Ian
I recall a studyof suicide attempts. Many who tried (but failed, obviously) decided to do so within three minutes of the attempt. It was a spontaneity decision.
I was there...
at last. Thanks.
RIP Ian!
SEE U SOON IAN!
like how they sound, but I'm not agree to use the lyrics of Ian Curtis, just for having collaborated with the music of the songs
Signori, tutti in piedi....
oh f***ing hell! the best .... i'm breathless
I see Im actually a drummer myself, and Ive been trying to figure the live version out, I was just curious
COME ON!!!1
Ian curtis forever ❤️
it's very common for drummers to do different beats live and in studio. the studio version has a very fast frantic beat that is both very tiring and easy to screw up live
💚
They should get Michael Gira one time to sing it. The Swans covered he did of it is actually very good.
COME ON!
Hey I noticed that the drums on live versions of this song sound different from the studio version, why is that?
2 different versions of lwtua. This drumming was the original and the official studio version is the 2nd version
I personally like Joy Division's the best, but they don't have Ian anymore so they can't do much. I mean, despite Bernard's singing (which is not bad at all) it is actually the closest that can even compare to the original. However, what I find funny, yet exciting is Peter at 0:09 .