Beethoven: Symphony No. 7 / Petrenko · Berliner Philharmoniker

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  • Опубликовано: 2 сен 2018
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    Ludwig van Beethoven: Symphony No. 7 (4th movt) / Kirill Petrenko, conductor · Berliner Philharmoniker / Recorded at the Berlin Philharmonie, 24 August 2018
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  • @manfredmauseschreck5638
    @manfredmauseschreck5638 3 года назад +19

    0:57 How the violinist on the second chair looks at the concermaster with that smirk on his face. He has so much fun. Awesome. As it should be in this movement.

    • @seelenlerche
      @seelenlerche 3 года назад +3

      That's Noah Bendix-Balgley, also a concertmaster and a very good soloist, too.

    • @manfredmauseschreck5638
      @manfredmauseschreck5638 3 года назад +1

      @@seelenlerche Pardon, I am not very conversant in the field of violinists. Though I bet that he is an amazing player, since he sits at the first desk of the Berliners

  • @Altonahh10
    @Altonahh10 4 года назад +15

    Petrenko is revealing the chaos in Beethoven´s glorious music like hardly anybody else and finds a perfect solution to curb it. When he conducted the 7th in 2018, with Strauss` Tod und Verklärung I felt reborn. I can´t wait for his Mahler 9 next season.

  • @adibhattacharyya8690
    @adibhattacharyya8690 5 лет назад +171

    Beginning of a new era of the Berlin phil

    • @andrelousada
      @andrelousada 5 лет назад +4

      Indeed! I am very excited!

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад +3

      Geh bitte,.... Die Ära des Unterganges...

    • @joseorlandodiaz8688
      @joseorlandodiaz8688 4 года назад +1

      come on...

    • @alexandremyrat
      @alexandremyrat 3 года назад

      N'importe quoi

    • @FalParsi
      @FalParsi 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@defunesfanDefinitiv der beste Dirigent den die Berliner bis jetzt hatten. Er ist das was dieses Orchester brauchte und macht es zu einem unvergleichlichen Orchester, mit ihm als Chef aktuell das beste Orchester der Welt.

  • @francesconiccolai6592
    @francesconiccolai6592 11 месяцев назад +3

    Beethoven....Berliner....and
    Kirill Petrenko.....
    Tre Magie Assolute 🎶💪😊

  • @britdude74
    @britdude74 5 лет назад +107

    Sir Simon Rattle will be dearly missed, but Mr. Petrenko certainly continues to build upon a great legacy of leadership!

    • @toomuchrose
      @toomuchrose 5 лет назад +15

      Rattle won't be missed much at all, certainly not now that Petrenko has taken over.

    • @andrelousada
      @andrelousada 5 лет назад +5

      From Furtwangler to Pentrenko!!!!! :) AWESOME!

    • @lorenzoparlione9548
      @lorenzoparlione9548 5 лет назад

      Irfan Syed a

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад +1

      Hahaha

    • @Altonahh10
      @Altonahh10 4 года назад +4

      I miss Rattle´s Janacek, that´s all. Petrenko already began with stunning performances and in a couple of years the world will know that there is only one leading orchestra in the world and that´s the Berliner Philharmoniker. Sorry Amsterdam and Vienna ;-)

  • @wnbbmbjg
    @wnbbmbjg 5 лет назад +51

    Bravo!! I want to see him performing Beethoven‘s other symphonies too.

    • @10vutrandung69
      @10vutrandung69 5 лет назад +1

      He does , there is a perfomance with Beethoven 9th symphony with the BBC philharmonica , it's availiblae on RUclips right now

    • @wnbbmbjg
      @wnbbmbjg 5 лет назад +2

      Vu Tran Dung isn't that Vasily Petrenko, not Kirill?

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад +1

      better not...

    • @Altonahh10
      @Altonahh10 4 года назад +1

      @@10vutrandung69 The version you can listen to in the Digital Concert Hall of the Berliner Philharmoniker is even better.

  • @ultradmann2367
    @ultradmann2367 5 лет назад +60

    This is definitely great, his interpretation is different from what I mostly hear out of this movement and almost feels like he's giving the listener time to let your ears catch EVERY note that being played from every member of the orchestra with a slightly slower tempo versus a typically fast one. I'm extremely curious to hear the the other 4 movements now and how he takes care of those. Bravo~

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад +5

      I warmly suggest you to listen some older recordings before you post such a bullshit!

    • @katrinat.3032
      @katrinat.3032 3 года назад +1

      You may enjoy sir George Solti performance,especially 2nd movement

    • @ultradmann2367
      @ultradmann2367 3 года назад

      @@katrinat.3032 With CSO?

    • @jimmychoo1857
      @jimmychoo1857 Год назад

      There is NO interpretation at all. He s dancing a gypsy dance

    • @MarshallArtz007
      @MarshallArtz007 Год назад +1

      This tempo is hardly on the slower side. It is actually very fast, and to me at least, exciting. 😎🎹

  • @shupingwang3392
    @shupingwang3392 5 лет назад +7

    Yes !!!! Nailed... enjoying the outcome of studious rehearsals and inspired enjoyment.

  • @Emiliano533
    @Emiliano533 4 года назад +6

    Kiril Petrenko ¡genial, su dirección musical, retrato de la pasión . . .

  • @ifan16
    @ifan16 5 лет назад +6

    Oh, I love it.

  • @nikaezhishvili4446
    @nikaezhishvili4446 5 лет назад +162

    I like so much this new conductor

    • @andrelousada
      @andrelousada 5 лет назад +8

      Yes! He does a great job!

    • @andrelousada
      @andrelousada 5 лет назад +7

      he is great!!!! :)

    • @philiprowney
      @philiprowney 5 лет назад +2

      Top comment and no-one mentions all the static.
      I can't tell myself, video was unwatchable!

    • @pearspeedruns
      @pearspeedruns 5 лет назад +5

      Philip Rowney I hear no static. Possibly your listening equipment is malfunctioning?

  • @militaermusikvorarlberg
    @militaermusikvorarlberg 5 лет назад +113

    Petrenko is one of the few conductors who actually figured out what the real purpose of conducting should be. Not to just show tempo and dynamics but to invigorate the players with pure energy and emotion.

    • @avilla35
      @avilla35 5 лет назад +1

      Neither of those are his job; it's to interpret meaning and/or feeling. The composer has already provided the tempi for his work.

    • @joufaxerxes7966
      @joufaxerxes7966 5 лет назад +5

      @@avilla35 Nah. Furtwängler for example had sometimes pretty unique tempi. His version of Beethoven's 5th is really slow and depressed. The conducter always has a little bit to say about the tempi, since mostly the composer's notes aren't so exact. And even if it was the case, some go beyond their limits.

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад +4

      Come on... Look some other recordings before posting bullshit...
      ruclips.net/video/myJvXFFU2Zs/видео.html

    • @Altonahh10
      @Altonahh10 4 года назад +1

      @@avilla35 Yes, but no composer tells us how "fast" fast has to be ;-)

    • @alexandremyrat
      @alexandremyrat 3 года назад

      N'importe quoi !

  • @elvira5501
    @elvira5501 Год назад

    Kirill Petrenko hace que uno se transporte a un mundo de emoción. Gracias

  • @marsopl.a.430
    @marsopl.a.430 Год назад +4

    L'élégance conjuguée au talent...c'est un vrai bonheur !
    Merci monsieur Petrenko , merci à vos musiciens !

  • @gettusked
    @gettusked 5 лет назад +17

    Watched it live, what a blast!

  • @josenildagoncalves9653
    @josenildagoncalves9653 4 года назад +4

    Magnífico!

  • @GreatBPO
    @GreatBPO 5 лет назад +1

    So good to be there^-^

  • @Saidbyjude
    @Saidbyjude 5 лет назад +2

    Bravo 👏🏼

  • @minguriguriguri
    @minguriguriguri 5 лет назад +2

    금관 듣기만 해도 숨차다😻

  • @danielfleming2301
    @danielfleming2301 5 лет назад +2

    Omg I love his conducting so much its draws you in so much and it’s energetic and engaging

  • @aronollerer5745
    @aronollerer5745 5 лет назад

    Wow! Great!

  • @JaeyoonGo
    @JaeyoonGo 5 лет назад +15

    I like him, his music

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад +2

      What about Beethoven?

  • @celle0106
    @celle0106 5 лет назад +3

    He‘s so cute 😍😍

  • @gwynmadadh-allaidh1610
    @gwynmadadh-allaidh1610 5 лет назад +13

    I did a powerpoint on the Berliner Philharmoniker in German class

  • @penepene5837
    @penepene5837 4 года назад +3

    素晴らしい…😭

  • @bumble1612
    @bumble1612 5 лет назад +3

    Alive and very well i see!

  • @KaiRudolph
    @KaiRudolph 5 лет назад +2

    fantastic ! fantastic conductor for fantastic orchestra

  • @kelsonbezerralopes
    @kelsonbezerralopes 5 лет назад +6

    The best Philharmoniker!!!

  • @Quotenwagnerianer
    @Quotenwagnerianer 5 лет назад +39

    Antiphonic violins? Finally! It was about time the orchestra returned to the old german seating. I think all music written prior to 1920 should be played in this seating.

    • @JesusRiveraPercusion
      @JesusRiveraPercusion 5 лет назад +1

      how is that?

    • @reichhardbuerger1492
      @reichhardbuerger1492 5 лет назад +7

      Depending on the repertoire you see these quite often nowadays, at least in Berlin and not only with the Berlin Phil. Beethoven, Bruckner, Mahler seemed to have written their music with this seating in mind - at leat in my view. I think the difference in the concert hall is quite dramatic. Saw in the last days Rotterdam and Concertgebouw with Bruckner - both parted the violins to the sites. Music written prior to 1920 I prefer too played in german seating.

    • @Quotenwagnerianer
      @Quotenwagnerianer 5 лет назад +1

      Indeed. Bruckner, Mahler and Dvorak work best with this seating.

  • @anonymousanonymous-ro6mg
    @anonymousanonymous-ro6mg 4 года назад +5

    Beethoven , genius

  • @andreslka
    @andreslka 5 лет назад +5

    When you hear the conductor breath, means something Brilliant going on. This is very good. Can't wait for the Mahler. Sarah Willis, please marry me.

  • @terrycreagh4103
    @terrycreagh4103 5 лет назад +2

    An exciting sound!

  • @Sheehan1
    @Sheehan1 4 года назад

    The 2nd movement is my favourite

  • @y-gram7636
    @y-gram7636 5 лет назад

    Trumpet is so great!!

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад

      ? You mean horn, maybe...

  • @user-wu1my4nk6g
    @user-wu1my4nk6g 4 года назад +6

    あきれるほど上手いオケ。ベルリンフィルの合奏力に今更ながら驚く。7番の狂気性は感じられないが。

  • @denisflute8186
    @denisflute8186 5 лет назад +5

    Great performance , intense

    • @andrelousada
      @andrelousada 5 лет назад +1

      Yes! Extremely logical with the way he organizes the material!

  • @nikollmerdhoci2018
    @nikollmerdhoci2018 2 года назад +1

    Wanderful petrenkoo

  • @celle0106
    @celle0106 5 лет назад +8

    Petrenko is sooo CUTE! 😍

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад

      Cute? Come on, please!

  • @valeriykhasyanov9011
    @valeriykhasyanov9011 3 года назад +2

    Сегодня Бетховену 250 лет величайший на все времена Супер

  • @Akrugs
    @Akrugs 3 года назад +2

    Kirill Petrenko ♥♥♥♥♥

  • @seelenlerche
    @seelenlerche 3 года назад +2

    Eine sehr mitreißende Aufführung, die Begeisterung aller Musizierenden geht natürlich vom Dirigenten aus. Irgendwas muss er total richtig machen!

  • @HarrisHanAndersen
    @HarrisHanAndersen 5 лет назад +4

    A fresh sound for the modern era.

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад +1

      Fresh sound? Listen to this: ruclips.net/video/2Sw97NzvvsE/видео.html

  • @totmarbz6830
    @totmarbz6830 4 года назад +3

    Haha, what kind of Look does Bendix-Balgley give Kashimoto at 0:57 - 1:00?? He looks confused and then smiles as he turns away. :-)

  • @doGreatartistsgrowontrees
    @doGreatartistsgrowontrees 5 лет назад

    Extraordinary

  • @Marcus-cc72
    @Marcus-cc72 3 года назад +4

    I think it is Petrenko's intention to actually teach the audience how to interpret the piece they're playing, far more than just delivering the music. He tells the audience what to listen to, and what it means (at least what it means to him as a conductor).

  • @PianistDanielFritzen
    @PianistDanielFritzen 2 года назад

    grandios

  • @kairudolph8270
    @kairudolph8270 5 лет назад +2

    superb

  • @PLTConductorComposer
    @PLTConductorComposer 5 лет назад +2

    Er ist einfach toll!

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад

      Indeed,...mittelhochdeutsch tol, dol, althochdeutsch tol = dumm, töricht, eigentlich = getrübt, umnebelt, verwirrt

  • @CherryFahn5556
    @CherryFahn5556 4 года назад +2

    This year 2020 is Beethoven's 250 birth annual .

  • @kavindusampath9036
    @kavindusampath9036 2 года назад +2

    Never heard that part before

  • @saidazh5967
    @saidazh5967 5 лет назад +4

    People who say that this conductor is goofy or that they just want to draw in young people: The music is light, festive and happy, like a dance, and the conductor is mirroring these emotions and transitions them on to the musicians. Why should he not be happy, smiling and somewhat dancing to the music? Isn't that also conducting? If it was a Mahler symphony or the 5th of Beethoven he wouldn't act that way but here it is totally understandable. His interpretation is original and refreshing, but also in a respective manner. If you want a second Karajan, thats okay, but there is more to music than just perfection and the emotions are please to be felt and in this case, its fun! And I find the idea to draw in younger audiences great! Why shouldn't they do that? There is nothing negative about evoking interest of younger people, its the exact opposite, young people mostly have a different perspective on classical music and its everything but childish. The only thing we have to do is teach them, to deal with the music in a respective manner, always keeping in mind what is being said and who the composer was. Its always sad to visit a concert and see that 90 % of the listeners are 40 or older, while the future of classical music and everything to be honest, lies in the hands of our future generations, the young people. So we should god damn try to bring classical music closer to our younger people, its undoubtedly necessary!

  • @julioalegria1852
    @julioalegria1852 Год назад

    Es entretenido y ala vez sobrecogedor verlo dirigir

  • @user-ur1rt8dx3w
    @user-ur1rt8dx3w 4 месяца назад

    Дирижер прекрасен!!!!

  • @user-zi4pe6uj6p
    @user-zi4pe6uj6p 9 месяцев назад

    Extra❤

  • @sbor2020
    @sbor2020 5 лет назад +2

    Petrenko has more than a dash of Carlos Kleiber. With him, the Berlin Phil are on the edge of their seats: sheer music making in the moment, alive spontaneous and free. I loved that at the end of the concert the wind principals thrilled and relieved were congratulating each other. A thrilling new era of the Berlin Phil is surely dawning. I am really looking forward to more ...

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад

      Oh please...ruclips.net/video/myJvXFFU2Zs/видео.html

  • @ricardonascimento6020
    @ricardonascimento6020 4 года назад +1

    A gravação ficou boa, mas sinto muita muita falta das dobras do tempo do Karajan, especialmente, dos 4 trompetes de rotor. Assim, perde-se demais comparando com a versão de Karajan. Gardiner com a ORR conseguiu fazer uma versão com instrumentos originais a altura da versão de Karajan. Mas ainda assim prefiro a versão do Karajan. A orquestra é cheia, com potência máxima. A tradição da BPO, para mim, é com as dobras dos instrumentos. Quando lembro dessa orquestra é assim que a imagem vem na minha cabeça. Era isso que eu queria ver na orquestra hoje. Ficou sendo sua marca de sonoridade. É uma pena que não se tenha dado continuidade a essa tradição de sonoridade. Mas o trabalho de Petrenko é muito bom. O problema é que Karajan é monumental e Furtwängler insuperável. Ganhou meu like. Peço uma coisa maestro,, dobre os instrumentos nas próximas gravações.

  • @user-ql3mm2to2y
    @user-ql3mm2to2y 5 лет назад +1

    it is so full of life

  • @yuehchopin
    @yuehchopin 5 лет назад

    gut

  • @alfonsoperezlopez907
    @alfonsoperezlopez907 5 лет назад +4

    I personally just find Rattles recording much better...Yet it is true that Petrenko manages to make the music flow and pierce easier into the listener’s ears, but I find Rattle’s version is much more exciting and passionate, and portrays much better how boastful, full of energy and human like Beethoven should, in my like, sound

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад +1

      There are planty of much BETTER recordings!
      ruclips.net/video/myJvXFFU2Zs/видео.html

    • @toomuchrose
      @toomuchrose 5 лет назад +4

      Rattle doesn't do energy, he does average. He is the beige conductor, a man who opts for always the same. When I saw Petrenko conduct this at the Prom the entire building levitated. The roar of the audience at the end nearly blew the roof off. It was an astonishing performance, the like of which I have rarely seen before. Rattle is a stick waver who has made a career out of being average.

  • @DavisTakagi
    @DavisTakagi Месяц назад

    👏

  • @bilby9143
    @bilby9143 5 лет назад +1

    I ike it. Just curious ... was Paavo Jarvi considered for the position?

  • @fightingfalcon1986
    @fightingfalcon1986 3 года назад +2

    I feel that the Military Polonaise from Chopin would be a incredible masterpiece to be interpreted by the Berliner Philharmoniker

  • @dushmanthiperera5310
    @dushmanthiperera5310 5 лет назад +3

    0:53 it's Martin Freeman at the horn

  • @shupingwang3392
    @shupingwang3392 5 лет назад +2

    They love and respect Petrenko. Little wonder with results like this !

  • @honeyinglune8957
    @honeyinglune8957 2 месяца назад

    listen to the flute at 1:04

  • @tobethebestican
    @tobethebestican 2 года назад +1

    솔로주자급 연주자들 모아놓고 오케 지휘하면 얼매나 좋을까 듣는 사람도 이렇게 신이 나는데

  • @francoas64
    @francoas64 4 года назад +1

    Reminds me of "Mozart in the Jungle"

  • @monikabruns5010
    @monikabruns5010 5 лет назад +6

    Welche Art von Gehörschutz gibt es für diese vorbildlichen Musiker ?

    • @phw9386
      @phw9386 4 года назад

      vermutlich den den die Bundeswehr bei Schießübungen benutzt...

    • @heikejaschniok1767
      @heikejaschniok1767 Месяц назад

      Die Liebe zu ihrem Tun erfordert keinen Gehörschutz. Die Vibrations gehen ohnehin durch jede Zelle des Körpers, dagegen kann man sich nicht schützen -- außer man ließe es.

  • @EdgarAponte
    @EdgarAponte 4 года назад +2

    Le encanta las velocidades extremas pero no hace música

  • @jordyrinsarsamuelrajagukgu3049
    @jordyrinsarsamuelrajagukgu3049 3 года назад

    0.46 are you happy

  • @eunicebeltran8602
    @eunicebeltran8602 Год назад

    1:23 oh my god @StevenHe is that you??

  • @shirin4762
    @shirin4762 5 лет назад

    What’s the name of musician with beard, he plays violin?

  • @AgriCulture-um7ik
    @AgriCulture-um7ik 3 месяца назад

    What a dexterity!! ❤❤❤

  • @filipb3839
    @filipb3839 Год назад

    Vederlo mi fa veramente sorridere, se non peggio!

  • @user-mc8ht6mm9w
    @user-mc8ht6mm9w 3 года назад

    zu leicht..das ist Beethoven!

  • @user-jc6gp8lz6t
    @user-jc6gp8lz6t 5 лет назад +21

    カップラーメン作れるやん

    • @bass6740
      @bass6740 4 года назад +1

      これからこの動画で作るわ

  • @kodairadaini
    @kodairadaini 3 года назад +1

    音楽の流れが平板に感じてしまって、、、私、おかしいでしょうか❓💦

  • @francescobartesaghi7852
    @francescobartesaghi7852 5 лет назад +1

    E' lui l'erede di Carlos Kleiber!

  • @vitoliuzzi1557
    @vitoliuzzi1557 5 лет назад

    io c'ero

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад

      complimenti! Non hai perso nulla!

  • @gordonlau1885
    @gordonlau1885 5 лет назад +1

    Omg Amihai cut his hair..!!

  • @defunesfan
    @defunesfan 5 лет назад +2

    A Kasperl! Was sollen die zwei Auftakte bei den Übergängen und die ganzen Grimassen? Braucht er noch immer eine Partitur zum reinschauen? Alles so unecht... In meinen Augen ist das eine reine show. Etwas Trost findet man hier:
    ruclips.net/video/2Sw97NzvvsE/видео.html

    • @phw9386
      @phw9386 4 года назад

      und hier ruclips.net/video/aCwqTwljYtU/видео.html

  • @paolograndinetti7609
    @paolograndinetti7609 5 лет назад +1

    Berliner straordinari non hanno bisogno di un conduttore

  • @haruoyoneda1991
    @haruoyoneda1991 4 года назад +1

    BPO新時代。

  • @baishengsong6384
    @baishengsong6384 5 лет назад

    To me, this is the only version comparable to Carlos Kleiber.

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад

      Really? ruclips.net/video/2Sw97NzvvsE/видео.html

  • @carl-walterbauer654
    @carl-walterbauer654 Год назад

    So dirigiert man die Siebte. Und leider nicht so getragen wir Karl Böhm. Der hat dafür andere Qualitäten, die Petrenko nie erreichen wird.

  • @Poke11
    @Poke11 10 месяцев назад

    oha geht mit ton nicht wie 433

  • @user-de3xf1oc2w
    @user-de3xf1oc2w 5 лет назад

    のだめかな

  • @annakimborahpa
    @annakimborahpa 5 лет назад

    Bugs Bunny has appeared in the flesh.

    • @vincentparisi2644
      @vincentparisi2644 4 года назад

      I thought pretty much the same thing but you articulated it.

  • @paulturner1973
    @paulturner1973 Год назад

    Yes… There’s this… Polished, powerful, pacy - but just just just a tiny bit - what? Slick? Machine-like? - compared to Carlos Kleiber with the Concertgebouw. Great, but CK just 1% greater, maybe.

  • @Panzerino02
    @Panzerino02 5 лет назад

    Carlos Kleiber incarnation of the new age.

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад

      Come on, please! How you can say something like this? Have you even an idea of Kleiber's Art? ruclips.net/video/myJvXFFU2Zs/видео.html

    • @jorgejuan3718
      @jorgejuan3718 5 лет назад +1

      Efectivamente, esta versión recuerda a la maravillosamente fantástica de Carlos Kleiber con la O. del Concertgebouw. Creo que el solo hecho de aportar ideas nuevas en la interpretación de Beethoven es encomiable.

    • @defunesfan
      @defunesfan 5 лет назад

      Y cual serían estas "ideas nuevas"???@@jorgejuan3718

    • @jorgejuan3718
      @jorgejuan3718 5 лет назад +2

      @@defunesfan El tempo, el fraseo, la tensión, el ritmo. El adagietto es un adagietto y no una marcha fumebre, el presto final es rutilante. Wagner decía que la 7 de Beethoven era "la apoteosis de la danza". Admiro mucha a Böhm a quien tuve el honor de ver dirigir en Barcelona. Pero su 7 en mi opinión es muy lenta.

  • @edwardnah6739
    @edwardnah6739 4 года назад

    Super digital sounds, but Musical scent?

  • @EdgarAponte
    @EdgarAponte 5 месяцев назад

    Petrenko hace tempos ridículos

  • @memattia3198
    @memattia3198 2 года назад

    Too fast...

  • @juliameier9730
    @juliameier9730 4 года назад +3

    KrachBumm..ein Orchester ist kein Maschinengewehr, man hetzt auch nicht so durch die Musik, es kann/darf auch schön klingen, das Stück hat auch Melodik und Stimmführung kann man z.B hier sehen... ruclips.net/video/k1dKrR1iRWk/видео.html und hier: ruclips.net/video/psl29vF-mRk/видео.html man könnte eigentlich fast meinen die hätten den Verstand verloren und die Medien auch

  • @canampatriot
    @canampatriot 4 года назад +1

    With this orchestra, he just has to stand there and give a down beat and smile. It’s almost an insult to “conduct” Beethoven with Berliner.

  • @edwardnah4718
    @edwardnah4718 5 лет назад +7

    Too fast, and lose its phrases. Impact is not good solution for interpretation of Beethoven's.

    • @eirini1501
      @eirini1501 4 года назад

      You have right!

    • @sumitabhadas1402
      @sumitabhadas1402 4 года назад

      @@eirini1501 Absolutely right! I just don't think that Petrenko has complete grasp of Beethoven. Watch Burgos play the seventh with DNSO and you'll know the difference. My personal audio favorites are Klemperer (PO and NPO) and Fricsay (BPO)

  • @Manitwo7
    @Manitwo7 5 лет назад +1

    지휘자 면도만 했으면 음악에 더 몰입할 수 있다. 제발 면도 좀 했으면 좋겠다. 베를린필의 얼굴 아닌가??

  • @radonrn5281
    @radonrn5281 4 года назад +1

    I missed Sir Simon Rattle.

  • @jongchanlee7652
    @jongchanlee7652 4 года назад

    Music is bland

  • @Amrbeethoven
    @Amrbeethoven 4 года назад

    why he is smiling, its not that music to smile to , it needs other facial expression .