As a film student myself I was lucky enough to see the Snyder cut with a friend who is a reviewer and was given early access. And Grace is 100% right, the difference is absolutely mind blowing. The way 2 people can take the same footage and scenes and come out with 2 completely different end results is honestly incredible and this has given me a whole new level of respect for Snyder as a director. Every film class should show scenes from the Snyder cut and the original back to back, best case study I've ever seen
Some people have an extreme talent for painting or photography! You can't teach this talent you get born with it! That's why you will see a big difference in Whedon version and Snyder's version! Snyder is way more talented!
Are you really a film student because you learn in editing 101 how much of a difference a competent editor makes. Star wars: a new hope being a prime example
I don't believe Snyder is any more or less, talented than Whedon. The difference, of course, showed in THIS movie. Whedon has done plenty of great work. His work stands. He had a big miss here. Just as Snyder dropped the ball with BvS. Snyder's not all that. No one is all perfect. This just wasn't it for Whedon.
Joss Whedon is just a producer's director, he can get the work done. You can't compare him with any director who has a unique flare and style. Love or hate Zack Snyder but he definitely has his style of movie making, which some really like.
Dude after watching it there has to be an ayer cut and they have to restore the Snyder verse. It was the amazingest movie I could have hoped for as a DC fan To make this movie absolutely explode make memes about it and post it everywhere
The hell people talking about the average casual people watching 4 hours, Shit! People watch 6 hours of NFL on Sundays, plus another 3 hours Sunday night games. People who waited almost 5 years for the Snyder cut can watch all day, I guarantee...
Casual people aren’t the ones who waited 5 years. Those were fans. Casuals are well... casual. They’re just seeing the movie bc Batman is on the cover or they want to see the action scenes. These aren’t the hardcore fans or even normal fans who protested for this cut of the movie to be released. As for your sports examples, not everyone watch sports lol...
Funny you say that. The length of this movie, the pacing and how it felt like it had two endings reminded me so much of LOTR: Return of the king which is one of my favorite movies.
Even two years later, this is such an enjoyable rewatch. This is what sets you apart from the majority of your peers. You have such a firm grasp and ability to analyze what will no doubt be one of the greatest film juxtaposing examples in cinematic history. Your analysis is very insightful and you stay away from the arbitrary and pointless hate and brand loyalty BS. You're one of the real ones, Grace.❤
I'm betting right now Zack Snyder feels very heartwarming. After all he's been through I know this is going to sound a little bit weird but I want to give him a nice heart-warming hug. Thank you Zack Snyder for everything. ❤️
He's been thru a lot, man... WB cutting him off His film butchered Insulted & hated by DC fans Autumn's death When i was younger, I think people in Hollywood or film industry hav better priveleges, social standing & quality of life. As i was growin older, theyre the same from where i live where people are at each other's throats just to save faces, "reputation" & money from mistakes & controversies dat cant be undone. Still a dog eat dog world but with more money & heinous shebang.
4 hours a rookie numbers. Idk why so many people freak out. 3 hour movies used to get released in the theaters on the daily back in the day, and I wasnt even born then lol.
@@thoomolong I'm not saying every movie needed to be long. Just saying it was the norm. And when done right, such as the LoTR trilogy EXTENDED CUTS (the only way to watch them), it can be well worth it. Besides, it's at the comfort of your home now, instead of being in a theater where u cant pause the screen and take a break like back in the day. So I'm just saying the criticism, or worry, of this being 4 hours was a bit exaggerated imo
Anyone who says 4 hours is too long hasn't seen lotr samwise version. Every step he takes it cuts back to the "if I take 1 more step" scene. Now that's a long movie lol.
this is proof that in their bid to take on marvel. DC was actually hammering their own coffin. if only they just concentrated on making a good film such as this instead of copying the other team's playbook marvel might still have a fight on their hands. although this film might be the Lazarus pit needed to bring DC back from the dead
The thing is is WB who has been poor more than DC. DC animations and games are still one of the best out there, but in movies WB decides to not let the director alone to pursuit his vision. They thought DC can be like Marvel with jokes and stuff...how poor of them. Real DC fans will never allow that to happen.
@@revealingtruth3329 I liked what he done he took a different path to marvel and to other takes on superman by not making it or sun shine and rainbows he gave Clark Kent depth and also asked questions such as "should there be a superman" "there is". His superman seemed more human than most
@@djdoc06 Nah it can and WAS compressed to 3hrs... The extra one hours are just bonus scenes, that don't add to the plot but make the movie better cuz it fleshes out the characters even more
Can Ezra Miller be fired please. He literally choked a woman on video yet he gets to star in a flash movie, if that ain't privilege I don't know what is 🤦🏽♂️
IKR. Feel like I made the right move when I saw the review pop up but still decided "nah I 'm fine, just gonna check it out after watching the movie" lol
@@malaimaren10 I disagree! There's a trailer where you see Martha with red eyes and I immediately said... "Martian Manhunter is in this?". I think that was a huge mistake to have that in the trailer bc any DC fan would know what that meant lol. Sorta wish I hadn't seen it.
@@lordlubu3029 you are basing that off this review alone or ... ? Most of the reactions thus far are from people selected for preview screenings based on being enthusiasts. BvS not setting box office records despite featuring two characters that could potentially pull a billion in their solo films goes a long way to telling us how Snyder's vision goes down broadly. I really like the guy and I love his methods of shooting and a lot of his visuals but I really don't like his characterisation
@@charlesbernes4789 yeah I have no idea what that even means huh. What grand reputation, nothing against the guy at all but what reputation are we talking about except for the very distinct and arguably overwrought visuals.
@@etherspin Considering that EVERY reviewer I've seen said this was miles better thab the original I'd say the chances are it's much better. BvS had plenty of other issues.
@Shawn Kuhn Because she's the only member of the Trinity that doesn't have a huge back catalog of material to watch. AND when you do see her, she's never as powerful as she is in the comics. Glad to see she *might* be depicted that way here.
@@strangerq21z37 Well, yeah. It is the DC Superhero gods fighting even more powerful gods in this movie. It should be violent. Even more, that we get hints of DC Supervillain gods beginning to group together. BvS felt like a comic book, and I want to see that continue.
@@strangerq21z37 It's the justice league genius. It's going to be violent. Obviously you haven't read any of the comics. Maybe batman should wear a bubble gum pink suit and trade the batmobile in for a prius.
Words cannot describe how happy I am to hear that wonder woman is finally depicted almost as strong as superman. She deserves this and Whedon took that way from her character. I will never forget that.
Yes... I hated seeing her being flung and swung everywhere ... and to think it was actually done deliberately makes you think of what kind of guy JW really is... he took all the Black people out except for two 😂 made the goddess look like a Simp put superheroes in other superheroes bosoms... unnecessary bullshit I cannot wait till Thursday!🙏🏼💯
agree, and also the warrior side of wonder woman is super important to the character, she´s one of the (if not the) most deadliest hand to hand figther in DC
Wont happen. He is done with the dceu which is sad. Also this version is not going to be Canon. I loved mos and bvs but the franchise is tarnished and the actors don't want to play their roles and have been in bad controversy behind the cameras. I hope they reboot the franchise with the new batman film coming
@@rayromano6249 And what are you basing all of these things you’re saying on? Like does it state somewhere that the Cut everyone has been begging to be released for 4 years, is suddenly not canon? Etc.
@@rayromano6249 The Batman takes place on an alternate Earth and will never crossover with any other franchises. Matt Reeves has already confirmed this.
This is dark, and I love it, I like WW a lot, reminds me when she's first entered DCEU on BVS, badass, fearless and brutal, you'll know when you see it.
As a movie lover I will never shy away from a story based off of its length. Most long movies/books are really good. They offer a long comic movie thats made to represent 2 or 3 movies in one... I'm all in and very happy they did this for us :) Good review
Grace telling the truth out here: "I don't think HATERS will find anything to ridicule here like in BvS, but some HATERS WILL find a way because that's what HATERS do." 💯
@@AndrewCahill789 people have something named "opinions" The 3 trinity members are equally badass, iconic and cool, now it comes to personal preference as to who's "the best".
I just watched it, twice. Frankly, it was one of the best movies I have ever seen in my life. Period. The pacing is perfect. The Amazon women are SPECTACULAR. Steppenwolf is actually relatable. Sincerely, one of the BEST movies I have ever seen. Period.
Well there will be a slight problem.. If this one is the true canon that means the other movies that follows the first Justice League are not connected to the snydercut?
Never been the biggest Zack Snyder fan. Watched this film at 3:01am et once it dropped. Hands down, the most ambitious and sprawling 4-hours of comic book filmmaking in cinematic history. That epilogue was better than any MCU post-credit scene.
If you still have doubt, just think about this. This movie got 8,3 on IMDB while the josstice one is 6,4.. It's on the same level score as Joker, Infinity War and Endgame
"Everybody likes bold dramatic swings" Hopefully everybody loves it enough to get behind Zack's bold dramatic life swing about to happen if this movie is successful. With the BvS Ultimate Edition reappraisal and with the early enthusiastic reactions to this movie, this is about to be one of the most dramatic redemptiom stories Hollywood has ever seen!
More then that. He has more strength, but she us more vicious durning the fights. The Cut superman will beat you up, wonder woman will FUCK YOU UP. Makes me want to cry thinking what they did to her 1984.
@@DifferentNow Same here 😭 I have to wait till Saturday to watch it with my friends cuz we in college and we too busy to be watching a 4 hour movie on a weekday 💀
I know right? She actually talks about the happenings behind the scenes and why certain decisions were made. Other reviewers are like, “This movie was directed by, staring this actor, I like this, I don’t like that, done.”
@@meldondglord7930 and according to Grace anyone who criticizes this movie is automatically a hater and not a valid opinion. It’s insane that she said that. It really is.
@@Steve-xp8weIt is hard to take her review seriously because she is very biased considering she has made some big bucks from HBO Max and wants to keep those Snyder interview coming.
There was no way the movie would be bad with Snyder having creative control, making it 4 hours long, and having the benefit of hindsight from the past Justice League. I'm happy for him, he deserves a win after what he been through for years
But why if I may ask. Realistically speaking Whedon did ok with the short time he had and theatrical cut that was obviously forced to be shorter. Isn't it better to just have both?
I’m surprised no one has connected the black Superman suit to Jorel who wore it in the first movie. The overall theme of the movie is family reconciliation. That’s why they played jorel and Johnathan while he looked at the suits and he smiled when he reached the jorel suit.
It's still a Snyder film. At best it'll be mid. His best movies are the ones that are direct adaptations, as in 300 and Watchmen. Edit: For you people getting on my case, I own nearly all of his films, and recognize the flaws in his filmmaking. Sorry that you don't know how to look at movies objectively, and think you can't criticize filmmakers you like. 👍
Most modern day movies are crap and that's why movies tend to be shorter nowadays. In the past most movies used to be great so they were longer - movies such as LotR, Merlin, Star Wars. Justice League is probably the first really good one since the Joker.
@@mrnygren2 Star Wars is not long. It's exactly 2 hours. In contrast Rise of Skywalker is 2 and half. These days most big budget films are bloated. You don't get many films like Robocop 1987 that are a lean 1hr 43 minutes anymore.
Yes Grace. Just watched the Snyder cut. Absolutely amazing. I don't think I'll ever understand why WB sabotaged Zack's version. It was truly worth the wait and am so pleased for Zack that he finally got is vision out there. Would love to see more DCEU from him. Blessings and thank you Zack.
I can totally agree with all of your sentiments but I have to say this, Ben Affleck is perfect as Bruce Wayne and Batman. That's the fact and the only fact.
I also didn't realise their mothers had the same name!! Even though I knew separately they were Martha, I never connected the commonality. So I thought it was great! Zach managed to impress many DC fans with that. And why doesn't it make sense?!
Thank you too Grace for all your reviews, interviews, studies and covers... and most importantly... professionalism over these years. You too helped to deliver this into a reality
I always liked that "I'm rich" line, because that is his superpower technically, I mean his fighting skills are achievable by any human who put there mind to it
There were so many bad jokes in Josstice league. "I'm rich" is kinda funny and cheesy. Personally, I didn't really want that in there. I don't think it fits this Batman's character. Maybe in the Batman Brave and the Bold or the Harley Quin show. That might be a good place for that joke.
The butt shots of WW really bothered me in the Whedon cut. She’s more than eye candy and she deserves better. Glad to hear Gal and WW are treated with respect here.
@@bogdannicolas6359 That's one of the problems about Whedon. He does often have a point, but also ruins it by doing exactly what he criticize. Dollhouse is a perfect exemple of that, in how he treat women and mysoginy.
After the Snyder Cut gets much deserved success, I actually want Zack Snyder to do a live streaming of him watching the Joss Whedon's version of Justice League and watch Zack shake his head throughout the film lol
In the film schools they should show ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE Because it will inspire students and also they will learn something good and in future they can make masterpieces like the ULTIMATE SNYDER CUT
Thanks Grace for the insider info, you’re the only source I come to for this stuff. You’ve done a great job for years, definitely deserve much more subscribers, Best
She might have some personal bias towards this since she interviewed Zack Snyder and covered the drama of this extensively but the critics reviews seem more positive than then his previous dc works so far
@Sebastian Vargas Lets also not pretend that WB would have allowed a 4 hour theater release. This is not Snyder's original cut, its his directors cut. He failed with BvS and character wise MoS too, and I fell asleep during JL and missed the ending and never re-watched. I'll keep a mildly pessimistic view until a few more reviews as Grace defiantly has a DC boner. I don't want to waste another few hours, WW1984 made me a DC pessimist again.
One of the aspects about all this is the fact that we're getting to see two different versions of one film. Besides the obvious personal take between one or the other, we should feel lucky because this is getting highly educational too. Grace couldn't have say it better when she said "this is a case study and should be used it as such in film schools. ..(well said woman!) One simply fact: both filmmakers worked not only with the same script, characters, story lines, among other things but even with some of the same footage too. One combines that plus the vision and personal takes of the filmmakers involved and I have no doubt the differences between the two movies would be enormous. We simply don't get to see examples of the work of two creators regarding speciphically the same product at this massive scale and I can't wait to see the culmination of all the work and vision that Zack Snyder put in his film.
@@drunkdonutboy you know something we don’t tell me the truth is this movie garbage save me some time I see people saying justice is served saying it’s good but that’s probably compared to the original justice league which would make anything seem better
@@tubbymontana7090 I haven't seen it, but Zack Snyder movies are usually like that for me. I'm going to check it out because of the visuals and its free but I really don't think I'm gonna be able to sit through it...
1.5 hours in. I love this. This is such a labour of love/passion. I feel guilty wanting more. Grace - thanks for making the build up to viewing awesome. 4 hours doesn't feel like enough!
Disappointed to hear that we’re not going to be getting a Batman close to the BvS version. That’s what I was looking forward to the most to be honest. All man 😞
Well, that was the plan back then Rick was attached as director. Now it's more in line with wb plans for multiverse and stuff - not really the same project. Not anymore, but who knows?
T ok those who didn’t like the “Martha Interaction”, go watch the 3 hour cut of BvS, it’s the Snyder Cut to the theatrical cut’s Josstice League. I didn’t like it when I watched it in the cinemas either but I loved it when I watched the ultimate edition.
The Doomsday redesign was explained. It's not the real Doomsday, it's a second one. When Lex is making him the computer says, "The Kryptonian Council has forbidden this act. Never AGAIN shall an abomination be created." This is further teased in MoS at the beginning of the movie on Krypton, we can see the moon is destroyed. Doomsday does that in the comics, hinting that he already exists.
Regardless of the reason I didn't mind the redesign. This wasn't a "seasoned" Doomsday. His inconic look with bone protrusions was basically his "evolutionary growth from dying and rebirthing." This Doomsday was just born, therefore would not have the iconic look yet. He has yet to die enough times. lol
@@milest4214 fair play to Grace but I would have opted out from doing a "review" and given some commentary of new inclusions that are good / not great without an overall assessment of the movie cause it's so difficult if you are friendly. Honestly, Zack seems like such a sweet person it would really be conducive to all this talk of anyone critiquing him harshly being "haters"
@@milest4214 nah it's actually a lot better than I expected it to be. It seems like Zack took the criticism for BvS to heart and it really shows. Not perfect, but still an awesome fucking movie.
As a film student myself I was lucky enough to see the Snyder cut with a friend who is a reviewer and was given early access. And Grace is 100% right, the difference is absolutely mind blowing. The way 2 people can take the same footage and scenes and come out with 2 completely different end results is honestly incredible and this has given me a whole new level of respect for Snyder as a director. Every film class should show scenes from the Snyder cut and the original back to back, best case study I've ever seen
Some people have an extreme talent for painting or photography! You can't teach this talent you get born with it! That's why you will see a big difference in Whedon version and Snyder's version! Snyder is way more talented!
Are you really a film student because you learn in editing 101 how much of a difference a competent editor makes. Star wars: a new hope being a prime example
I don't believe Snyder is any more or less, talented than Whedon. The difference, of course, showed in THIS movie. Whedon has done plenty of great work. His work stands. He had a big miss here. Just as Snyder dropped the ball with BvS. Snyder's not all that. No one is all perfect. This just wasn't it for Whedon.
Joss Whedon is just a producer's director, he can get the work done. You can't compare him with any director who has a unique flare and style. Love or hate Zack Snyder but he definitely has his style of movie making, which some really like.
We live in a society where ppl binge 10 episode shows in a day.
how can anyone be nervous about a 4 hour long movie 🤷♂️
You have us there
Isn’t that right, Batman
im that guy
Thank you, it's streaming... perfect medium for an epic 4 hour long movie. People binge entire seasons of shows these days on streaming
But episodes have a quicker gratification since they're usual an 22 minutes to an hour.
WB: sorry guys there will be no JL2 or 3
Fans: the bell cannot be unrung!
Dude after watching it there has to be an ayer cut and they have to restore the Snyder verse. It was the amazingest movie I could have hoped for as a DC fan
To make this movie absolutely explode make memes about it and post it everywhere
@@Alphabet7 nah, Hamada has the keys to the kingdom now.
They need new executives!
Facts lol
@@commonsense_revolution No they don't
What broke my heart was.. "For Autumn" 😔🥺💔
exactly😢😢😢
A nice touch, but stop being ruled by your emotions.
@@IronTonyStark stop being such a douche.
@@IronTonyStark okay bruh..
@@sh0cktim3 You first. Grow a pair.
The hell people talking about the average casual people watching 4 hours, Shit! People watch 6 hours of NFL on Sundays, plus another 3 hours Sunday night games. People who waited almost 5 years for the Snyder cut can watch all day, I guarantee...
Casual people aren’t the ones who waited 5 years. Those were fans. Casuals are well... casual. They’re just seeing the movie bc Batman is on the cover or they want to see the action scenes. These aren’t the hardcore fans or even normal fans who protested for this cut of the movie to be released.
As for your sports examples, not everyone watch sports lol...
I don't think casuals watch 6 hours of NFL if they aren't fans of the sport.
People don't seem to remember how long were the lord of the rings movies
it wasn't even 4 years how did you make 5 out of it
Exactly. People be on their damned phones for over 4 hours just scrolling through tiktoks 😂
"why is it so damn long"
Lotr fans: "you have no power here"
Lotr directors cut fans: "Pathetic" 😤
take my 100th like
gandalf the grey!
BEGONE SERVANT OF SAURON , YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE
Funny you say that. The length of this movie, the pacing and how it felt like it had two endings reminded me so much of LOTR: Return of the king which is one of my favorite movies.
Even two years later, this is such an enjoyable rewatch. This is what sets you apart from the majority of your peers. You have such a firm grasp and ability to analyze what will no doubt be one of the greatest film juxtaposing examples in cinematic history. Your analysis is very insightful and you stay away from the arbitrary and pointless hate and brand loyalty BS. You're one of the real ones, Grace.❤
The Fans are the Real Heroes. They believed in Zack when WB and the world turned against Him.
Oh please.....stop crying
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭❤️
@@revealingtruth3329 what do you gain out of this?, like seriously what?
But movie is mediocre according to reviewers.
@@revealingtruth3329 haters 😝😝😝
Everyone: Look at Steppenwolf new desing he looks like a real villan, so intimidating!
Grace: “his little features are adorable!”
Stephan Wolf is a turtle? 🐢 He does not look like a turtle
I'm betting right now Zack Snyder feels very heartwarming. After all he's been through I know this is going to sound a little bit weird but I want to give him a nice heart-warming hug. Thank you Zack Snyder for everything. ❤️
He's been thru a lot, man...
WB cutting him off
His film butchered
Insulted & hated by DC fans
Autumn's death
When i was younger, I think people in Hollywood or film industry hav better priveleges, social standing & quality of life. As i was growin older, theyre the same from where i live where people are at each other's throats just to save faces, "reputation" & money from mistakes & controversies dat cant be undone.
Still a dog eat dog world but with more money & heinous shebang.
An 4 hour movie? It was okay for me with Lord of the Rings. Let's see with JL
4 hours a rookie numbers. Idk why so many people freak out. 3 hour movies used to get released in the theaters on the daily back in the day, and I wasnt even born then lol.
You mean to tell me you only watch LOTR one movie at a time and not a marathon? How is this possible?
@@thoomolong I'm not saying every movie needed to be long. Just saying it was the norm. And when done right, such as the LoTR trilogy EXTENDED CUTS (the only way to watch them), it can be well worth it. Besides, it's at the comfort of your home now, instead of being in a theater where u cant pause the screen and take a break like back in the day. So I'm just saying the criticism, or worry, of this being 4 hours was a bit exaggerated imo
Anyone who says 4 hours is too long hasn't seen lotr samwise version. Every step he takes it cuts back to the "if I take 1 more step" scene. Now that's a long movie lol.
If you have ever binge watch a tv show you can do this with JL, unless it sucks
THIS is the Justice League film we deserved.
How do you even know? You haven’t even seen it. Doubt it’s anything great
@@GeorgeZimmermen ooh. Someone's trying to spread hate as much as he can
@@GeorgeZimmermen ok, relax.
Absolutely! I’ve seen it and its is A MASTERPIECE!
@@GeorgeZimmermen I have seen it more than 7 times in 4 days do you know why
BECAUSE I AM BATMAN
just kidding because it's a masterpiece
this is proof that in their bid to take on marvel. DC was actually hammering their own coffin. if only they just concentrated on making a good film such as this instead of copying the other team's playbook marvel might still have a fight on their hands. although this film might be the Lazarus pit needed to bring DC back from the dead
Uhhh no......it was Snyder's fault too. He was messing up the DCEU badly especially what he was doing to Superman
The thing is is WB who has been poor more than DC. DC animations and games are still one of the best out there, but in movies WB decides to not let the director alone to pursuit his vision.
They thought DC can be like Marvel with jokes and stuff...how poor of them. Real DC fans will never allow that to happen.
@@revealingtruth3329 I liked what he done he took a different path to marvel and to other takes on superman by not making it or sun shine and rainbows he gave Clark Kent depth and also asked questions such as "should there be a superman" "there is". His superman seemed more human than most
@@djdoc06 Nah it can and WAS compressed to 3hrs... The extra one hours are just bonus scenes, that don't add to the plot but make the movie better cuz it fleshes out the characters even more
Can Ezra Miller be fired please. He literally choked a woman on video yet he gets to star in a flash movie, if that ain't privilege I don't know what is 🤦🏽♂️
This movie comfirmed it again Henry Cavill is the best Superman actor there is. I actually felt emotions from every scene with superman.
You must’ve not see Christopher Reeve or Tom Welling
The Best Superman Of This Generation ✊
Christopher Reeves is better
@@Kal_el1998 Christopher Reeves superman is good, his Clark Kent is DOG SHIT
@@6ftofmisery636 Reeves Clark Kent is TERRIBLE
Grace: No spoilers in this video
***10 Minutes Later***
Grace: Martian Man Hunter, Why the suit is black, and Lex Luther after credit scene lmao
The black suit already shown in the trailer and the End credit already in Josstice Leaque....but yea the Manhunter thing is a spoiler
The suit is black because it helps supes absorb more sun light.
IKR. Feel like I made the right move when I saw the review pop up but still decided "nah I 'm fine, just gonna check it out after watching the movie" lol
@@malaimaren10 I disagree! There's a trailer where you see Martha with red eyes and I immediately said... "Martian Manhunter is in this?". I think that was a huge mistake to have that in the trailer bc any DC fan would know what that meant lol. Sorta wish I hadn't seen it.
@@sjoo8 u r right
Moral of the story?
If a visionary with a grand reputation has a vision: You let them achieve it.
This just goes to show how out of touch Hollywood is, sometimes the fans know best.
They never should've taken his movie but "grand reputation" lmao. That's ALOT.
@@lordlubu3029 you are basing that off this review alone or ... ? Most of the reactions thus far are from people selected for preview screenings based on being enthusiasts. BvS not setting box office records despite featuring two characters that could potentially pull a billion in their solo films goes a long way to telling us how Snyder's vision goes down broadly.
I really like the guy and I love his methods of shooting and a lot of his visuals but I really don't like his characterisation
@@charlesbernes4789 yeah I have no idea what that even means huh. What grand reputation, nothing against the guy at all but what reputation are we talking about except for the very distinct and arguably overwrought visuals.
@@etherspin Considering that EVERY reviewer I've seen said this was miles better thab the original I'd say the chances are it's much better. BvS had plenty of other issues.
The whole viewing time thing again seems to be an American issue, most people I know love long movies especially big epic movies it adds to it.
Americans like whining
@@elat9635
Everyone likes to whine.
American culture has become the culture of short attention spans and privileged whining.
Mo movie, mo awesomeness
The longer ..the better 😈
I’m happy to hear that Wonder Woman gets to be cool in this movie
Her (WW) “intro” in BvS to rescue the Bat from Doomsday remains legendary
Kal El NO
That's 99% of what I was here to find out lol.
@Shawn Kuhn Because she's the only member of the Trinity that doesn't have a huge back catalog of material to watch. AND when you do see her, she's never as powerful as she is in the comics. Glad to see she *might* be depicted that way here.
@Shawn Kuhn Facts! 👏🏿 Speaking all facts. The sheer list of live action TV shows and movies between the two of them is RIDICULOUS!
“They live in a much more violent world”
My brain: “They live in a society”
Strangerq21 Z bad troll
@@strangerq21z37 Well, yeah. It is the DC Superhero gods fighting even more powerful gods in this movie. It should be violent. Even more, that we get hints of DC Supervillain gods beginning to group together. BvS felt like a comic book, and I want to see that continue.
@@strangerq21z37 some opinions are stupid.
@@strangerq21z37 It's the justice league genius. It's going to be violent. Obviously you haven't read any of the comics. Maybe batman should wear a bubble gum pink suit and trade the batmobile in for a prius.
@@strangerq21z37 Well what do you want him to make? A soap opera?
Words cannot describe how happy I am to hear that wonder woman is finally depicted almost as strong as superman. She deserves this and Whedon took that way from her character. I will never forget that.
Yes...
I hated seeing her being flung and swung everywhere ... and to think it was actually done deliberately makes you think of what kind of guy JW really is... he took all the Black people out except for two 😂 made the goddess look like a Simp put superheroes in other superheroes bosoms... unnecessary bullshit I cannot wait till Thursday!🙏🏼💯
Same here
agree, and also the warrior side of wonder woman is super important to the character, she´s one of the (if not the) most deadliest hand to hand figther in DC
WW is equal to superman if definitely not stronger
Patty jenkins destroyed her character so badly especially in the 2nd movie my gosh. So called "progressive feminism"
"We now live in a society where JOSSTICE LEAGUE is a distant memory. Isn't it DCEU fans?"
It's not even a memory
It's nothing now
Just some forgotten garbage
@@adityajagtap98 or as Joker would say: we live in a society where the Josstice League is a distant memory!
Not rlly, because you clearly still remember it
@@abelmatw why would you say that again?
That's exactly what's written in the comment above
Hell yeah 🔥
Zack Snyder directing WW3 would be a huge win (and a realistic goal).
Wont happen. He is done with the dceu which is sad. Also this version is not going to be Canon. I loved mos and bvs but the franchise is tarnished and the actors don't want to play their roles and have been in bad controversy behind the cameras. I hope they reboot the franchise with the new batman film coming
He would never take away that gig away from Patty Jenkins. They’re friends.
@@rayromano6249 And what are you basing all of these things you’re saying on? Like does it state somewhere that the Cut everyone has been begging to be released for 4 years, is suddenly not canon? Etc.
Ew
@@rayromano6249 The Batman takes place on an alternate Earth and will never crossover with any other franchises. Matt Reeves has already confirmed this.
This is dark, and I love it, I like WW a lot, reminds me when she's first entered DCEU on BVS, badass, fearless and brutal, you'll know when you see it.
..."some haters will find a way 'cause that's what haters DO"
WHAT A LINE, Grace!
The way I just closed my online lecture to watch this
so look back at grace's prediction or what I like to called
"a prophecy!" indeed!
I'm glad that my Queen Wonder Woman is given Justice
WW Queen Goddess
Yes me too ,cause WW 84 was a little letdown ,it was like night and day.
Nobody mention WW1984 to him
😔
@@DodgerRiley people says she was too ruthless and dark
YAS HUNNI YAS 👏
Zack's wonder woman hostage scene made me pause and say wow to myself until my goosebumps dissipated
It truly was amazing
As a movie lover I will never shy away from a story based off of its length. Most long movies/books are really good. They offer a long comic movie thats made to represent 2 or 3 movies in one... I'm all in and very happy they did this for us :) Good review
Grace telling the truth out here: "I don't think HATERS will find anything to ridicule here like in BvS, but some HATERS WILL find a way because that's what HATERS do." 💯
@@fluxx2384 oh have you seen it already? Cool
@@fluxx2384 says the dumbass who didn't watch the movie.
@@fluxx2384 here y'all come! 🤣
@@fluxx2384 you haven't even watch the movie lol😂
Mr. Corner rubbing his hands together while grinning
Lol 😆 🤣 they can't help but be angry and trollish
I'm glad they amped up Wonder Woman's power levels and did her + the Amazons justice, she's the best member on the team. uwu
Same I liked teared up when grace said those exact words I’m soooo excited!!
i have seen the leaked fight and let me tell u ww in josstice league = disney princess................ww in zsjl = dark souls boss
Best member?.....
She is amazing no doubt about that , but best member as a S on his chest
@@AndrewCahill789 people have something named "opinions"
The 3 trinity members are equally badass, iconic and cool, now it comes to personal preference as to who's "the best".
"It´s an experience"
-Ok, I´m in.
More like "It`s a movie" - Ok, i`m in
I just watched it, twice. Frankly, it was one of the best movies I have ever seen in my life. Period. The pacing is perfect. The Amazon women are SPECTACULAR. Steppenwolf is actually relatable. Sincerely, one of the BEST movies I have ever seen. Period.
Did you like it as much as you liked ifinity war and endgame.
@@kyleday5026 Personally, MORE. I grew up watching the 'Batman, Superman, Aquaman Hour on Saturday mornings.
This is a good day for DC fans. Anyone who has watched any animated DC film will appreciate what zack has done.
Yeh! It felt like a live action animated movie.
Ww84 was a bad day
No they fucking won't. DC animated shows and films kick the every living crap out of this borefest.
@@joshuagonsalves972 I'm sure they do.
God I hope WB is paying attention at this point and asking forgiveness for their sins
mood
Nah, Snyder still sucks.
@@JoshTyrReece cuz WB tries to impose that narrative.
Haha dawg suits never repent for their sins
@@user-qs2rp6kv9c did it. He still sucks.
Can we all agree Justice League 2017 just doesn't exist anymore
Already forgot about it. 🤣
No
We need to remember it....
So that we never make the same mistakes
as long as we include the Disney Star Wars trilogy in that neglecting pit.
What are you talking about?
@@danielz-v4083 hell yes!
ZSJL is the real canon; not that other movie...
What other movie 👀
Was there another movie like this one?
What other movie? This is the first live-action Justice League movie. There isn’t another one. Is there?
Well there will be a slight problem.. If this one is the true canon that means the other movies that follows the first Justice League are not connected to the snydercut?
@@johnnym8848 I already have.. It's fun and they give justice to the other characters. But it still feels bloated. But it is fun to watch..
Never been the biggest Zack Snyder fan.
Watched this film at 3:01am et once it dropped.
Hands down, the most ambitious and sprawling 4-hours of comic book filmmaking in cinematic history.
That epilogue was better than any MCU post-credit scene.
If you still have doubt, just think about this. This movie got 8,3 on IMDB while the josstice one is 6,4..
It's on the same level score as Joker, Infinity War and Endgame
"Everybody likes bold dramatic swings"
Hopefully everybody loves it enough to get behind Zack's bold dramatic life swing about to happen if this movie is successful. With the BvS Ultimate Edition reappraisal and with the early enthusiastic reactions to this movie, this is about to be one of the most dramatic redemptiom stories Hollywood has ever seen!
Deservedly so; a genuine good person is winning, and he's been super classy through all of this.
Ready. Very much looking forward to this and Army of the dead on Netflix. I've been a fan of all his movies though
I’m most definitely not going to school on thursday.
My man
I already told my boss I’m taking a personal day 😂😂
Bruh imma tell my college teacher if they can give me some extra time to finish my projects 😂 so I can watch it
I'm SO happy to hear that Wonderwoman is back to being almost as powerful as Superman!!!! She's back to being a badass!!
She was in WW84
@@riopeynado3959 Hell no she wasn't! She was NOTHING like the BvS or 2017 WW.
@@riopeynado3959
Wonder Woman was a musical character in WW1984. I'm surprised she didn't start singing.
More then that. He has more strength, but she us more vicious durning the fights. The Cut superman will beat you up, wonder woman will FUCK YOU UP. Makes me want to cry thinking what they did to her 1984.
@@piotrjeske4599 watch WW in the future developing her god mode and she becomes even stronger than Superman while activating it🔥
I saw a review that said something along the lines of "If Marvel studios makes comic book movies, DC makes graphic novels of movies.
@@strangerq21z37 Hey, it's not my quote dude.
I'm at a point where I get really nervous every time Grace praises a movie too much.
Snyder has been on her channel, she’s not gonna burn that bridge.
started feeling over the top when she mentioned using this in film school
I will add tho 99.5% of the youtubers are saying its great
I wouldn't worry, EVERYBODY, is praising Snydercut.
Fair enough.
Grace had a change of heart towards Ezra Miller's Flash. Now that's something I'm looking forward to.
That’s my biggest take too. Flash is my favourite character, I NEED a proper on screen depiction
Im not watching it till Saturday. THIS WEEK IS GONNA LAST SO LONG 😭😭
And stay away from social media to avoid spoilers ☺️
Same here, saving it for the wine and dime with my m8! Gonna be a long week xD
Bro same...when Wednesday come I'm gone from social media
@@DifferentNow lol same that's why I have to wait till Saturday
@@DifferentNow Same here 😭 I have to wait till Saturday to watch it with my friends cuz we in college and we too busy to be watching a 4 hour movie on a weekday 💀
I CLICKED FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT
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Didn't snyder say the doomsday in bvs wasn't "the doomsday" but just "a doomsday?"
Yes! That it's "Zodday" basically. Because it is Zod not Doomsday. People man
The movie itself says it
@@diegoclark7697 yeah, I understand that some people might have misunderstood. Just how people are.
@@XanthosAcanthus ikr
Because BvS was trash and they gave us a cave troll and called it doomsday. MoS and JL Snyder cut were dope though.
Cyborg is terminator with internet access 🤣
😂 LMAO
So he is Ultron Jr.
"Cyborg is terminator with internet access" so basically he's Ultron in Blackface🤣
Ironically, both Terminator and Cyborg have the same daddy...google it. ;)
atm's are not connected with internet for obvious security issues..... his access to tech is so much greater
THIS IS THE MOMENT WE HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR
This is best moment in my life!
Justice for Justice League is coming!
@@pheonixmo Justice for Zack and all the Fans!
I can never look at Steppenwolf the same way now after being called 'Turtle Dude' 😂 Amazing review Grace, love your work! :)
Lol “his little features are adorable!”
I read this as she said it 😂
Imagine dating Grace and she says that to you during intimacy. Ouch.
bruh😂
The black costume wasn't used as a healing suit but as a power up suit, since black obviously absorbs more light. So still accurate and makes sense.
Justice for Cyborg !! ✊🏽
Grace’s review is the only one that matters to me! 😁🥳🥳🥳
I know right? She actually talks about the happenings behind the scenes and why certain decisions were made. Other reviewers are like, “This movie was directed by, staring this actor, I like this, I don’t like that, done.”
Look on metacritic. Very mixed opinions about this movie.
@@meldondglord7930 and according to Grace anyone who criticizes this movie is automatically a hater and not a valid opinion. It’s insane that she said that. It really is.
X2
@@Steve-xp8weIt is hard to take her review seriously because she is very biased considering she has made some big bucks from HBO Max and wants to keep those Snyder interview coming.
There was no way the movie would be bad with Snyder having creative control, making it 4 hours long, and having the benefit of hindsight from the past Justice League. I'm happy for him, he deserves a win after what he been through for years
I took Friday off for this.
I’m also destroying my copy of Josstice League on Thursday night 😂👍🏼
first watch, then destroy if you still feel like it.
Warner league not josstice league he had Nothing to do With it being shite
But why if I may ask. Realistically speaking Whedon did ok with the short time he had and theatrical cut that was obviously forced to be shorter. Isn't it better to just have both?
@@MisterLuu As a reminder of the journey? Sure but not much else.
Haha! Is there a way to burn my digital copy ?
I looooove that Chris Nolan told Zach Snyder not to watch the other jl and I know it’s kind of sad why not but damn
I’m surprised no one has connected the black Superman suit to Jorel who wore it in the first movie. The overall theme of the movie is family reconciliation. That’s why they played jorel and Johnathan while he looked at the suits and he smiled when he reached the jorel suit.
*hope this is good*
It will be btw love your attack on titan videos .
It's still a Snyder film. At best it'll be mid. His best movies are the ones that are direct adaptations, as in 300 and Watchmen.
Edit: For you people getting on my case, I own nearly all of his films, and recognize the flaws in his filmmaking. Sorry that you don't know how to look at movies objectively, and think you can't criticize filmmakers you like. 👍
@@War624 I agree!too many money shots and slow motion!it worked for the previous movies he did, now its mediocre at best!
Dude it's fucking fantastic
@@War624 Haters still hating huh? I mean ya'll got no other job so.... I can't expect anything more from such people.
Four hrs for a movie is nothing as long as it's a good movie, ala the Extended Editions of LOTR.
Right! If the story & the visuals are good enough then you'll be in that world and 4 hours will fly by
Most modern day movies are crap and that's why movies tend to be shorter nowadays. In the past most movies used to be great so they were longer - movies such as LotR, Merlin, Star Wars.
Justice League is probably the first really good one since the Joker.
@@mrnygren2 Movies in every generation has its short and long movies. Nothing has changed.
@@mrnygren2 Star Wars is not long. It's exactly 2 hours. In contrast Rise of Skywalker is 2 and half. These days most big budget films are bloated.
You don't get many films like Robocop 1987 that are a lean 1hr 43 minutes anymore.
@@zachf4877 Robocop 1 and 2 were some of my favorites. They don't do R-rated movies anymore..
I've clicked no faster for a review than this one... I cant wait!!!!!!!!!!
Yes Grace. Just watched the Snyder cut. Absolutely amazing. I don't think I'll ever understand why WB sabotaged Zack's version. It was truly worth the wait and am so pleased for Zack that he finally got is vision out there. Would love to see more DCEU from him. Blessings and thank you Zack.
I can totally agree with all of your sentiments but I have to say this, Ben Affleck is perfect as Bruce Wayne and Batman. That's the fact and the only fact.
I’ve never clicked on anything so quickly in my life!! 😂
I also didn't realise their mothers had the same name!! Even though I knew separately they were Martha, I never connected the commonality. So I thought it was great! Zach managed to impress many DC fans with that. And why doesn't it make sense?!
It was ok rationally, it was goofy as hell though
@@Anon-qp3kt Why was it "goofy as hell"?
I felt the same way about "Martha". I've known they had the same name but just never made the connection. Hit me the same way as it did for Grace.
Thank you too Grace for all your reviews, interviews, studies and covers... and most importantly... professionalism over these years.
You too helped to deliver this into a reality
This movie is so good that the words haven't been invented yet
Phoebe Buffay : WE WANT THE LAST 3 YEAR BACKS !!!
I always liked that "I'm rich" line, because that is his superpower technically, I mean his fighting skills are achievable by any human who put there mind to it
I love that line. But DC Snyder fans are well known for not having sense of humor
There were so many bad jokes in Josstice league. "I'm rich" is kinda funny and cheesy. Personally, I didn't really want that in there. I don't think it fits this Batman's character. Maybe in the Batman Brave and the Bold or the Harley Quin show. That might be a good place for that joke.
@@Sharp_3yE that's not a Josstice League joke, it's a Snyder joke
@@Sharp_3yE it's not fit Batman's but surely it fits Bruce Wayne.
The butt shots of WW really bothered me in the Whedon cut. She’s more than eye candy and she deserves better. Glad to hear Gal and WW are treated with respect here.
@@oldmandeadpool1064 in that movie he was trying to make a point by doing it
@@bogdannicolas6359 That's one of the problems about Whedon. He does often have a point, but also ruins it by doing exactly what he criticize. Dollhouse is a perfect exemple of that, in how he treat women and mysoginy.
After the Snyder Cut gets much deserved success, I actually want Zack Snyder to do a live streaming of him watching the Joss Whedon's version of Justice League and watch Zack shake his head throughout the film lol
you like to watching videos of people suffering cruel and unusual punishment?
In the film schools they should show
ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE
Because it will inspire students and also they will learn something good and in future they can make masterpieces like the ULTIMATE SNYDER CUT
Thanks Grace for the insider info, you’re the only source I come to for this stuff. You’ve done a great job for years, definitely deserve much more subscribers, Best
By far, the "best live action Bruce Wayne" we've had. Totally agree 👍
She might have some personal bias towards this since she interviewed Zack Snyder and covered the drama of this extensively but the critics reviews seem more positive than then his previous dc works so far
@Sebastian Vargas Lets also not pretend that WB would have allowed a 4 hour theater release. This is not Snyder's original cut, its his directors cut. He failed with BvS and character wise MoS too, and I fell asleep during JL and missed the ending and never re-watched. I'll keep a mildly pessimistic view until a few more reviews as Grace defiantly has a DC boner. I don't want to waste another few hours, WW1984 made me a DC pessimist again.
Grace, you said after BvS to Warner: “Don’t blink”. Unfortunately, they didn’t listen.
One of the aspects about all this is the fact that we're getting to see two different versions of one film. Besides the obvious personal take between one or the other, we should feel lucky because this is getting highly educational too. Grace couldn't have say it better when she said "this is a case study and should be used it as such in film schools. ..(well said woman!)
One simply fact: both filmmakers worked not only with the same script, characters, story lines, among other things but even with some of the same footage too. One combines that plus the vision and personal takes of the filmmakers involved and I have no doubt the differences between the two movies would be enormous. We simply don't get to see examples of the work of two creators regarding speciphically the same product at this massive scale and I can't wait to see the culmination of all the work and vision that Zack Snyder put in his film.
Superman is in black and it's been released that he would don the red and blue again in the sequels once he felt that he earned them again.
The last trailer has to be one of the most magnificent things I've ever seen in my life
I hope i don't walk out from my house after watching it..
😂😂
Oh you will
@@drunkdonutboy you know something we don’t tell me the truth is this movie garbage save me some time I see people saying justice is served saying it’s good but that’s probably compared to the original justice league which would make anything seem better
@@tubbymontana7090 I haven't seen it, but Zack Snyder movies are usually like that for me. I'm going to check it out because of the visuals and its free but I really don't think I'm gonna be able to sit through it...
@@tubbymontana7090 F
1.5 hours in. I love this. This is such a labour of love/passion. I feel guilty wanting more. Grace - thanks for making the build up to viewing awesome. 4 hours doesn't feel like enough!
Luckily I only saw Josstice League once so I've forgotten most of it so I'm glad I'll be able to approach viewing this as if it was the only version.
Same
Same here. Barely remembers a thing from it.
14:18 I'm sorry, did you just call it "Josstice League?" 'Cause that is truly iconic.
You joking right?
Disappointed to hear that we’re not going to be getting a Batman close to the BvS version. That’s what I was looking forward to the most to be honest. All man 😞
At least he won't be the quippy funny man he was in the theatrical version.
I'm telling you, if Flash "learns to run properly" in his solo movie it will make his running in this movie even better!
Well, that was the plan back then Rick was attached as director. Now it's more in line with wb plans for multiverse and stuff - not really the same project. Not anymore, but who knows?
T ok those who didn’t like the “Martha Interaction”, go watch the 3 hour cut of BvS, it’s the Snyder Cut to the theatrical cut’s Josstice League. I didn’t like it when I watched it in the cinemas either but I loved it when I watched the ultimate edition.
Same. When I talk about BvS I’m only ever referring to the Ultimate edition. It’s one of my fav movies
It's still goofy af
@@Anon-qp3kt nAh
I love how in depth this review is without spoilers, subscribed.
Thank you Grace for giving a great review. This gives us hope and excitement again in watching Zack Snyder's version of Justice League.
I just discovered your channel. Love your style, both of content and physically😎👍🏻
Tomorrow is my birthday and I think your non spoiler and spoiler reviews and the release of ZSJL might be the best birthday gifts i've ever had
Happy Birthday!
The Doomsday redesign was explained. It's not the real Doomsday, it's a second one. When Lex is making him the computer says, "The Kryptonian Council has forbidden this act. Never AGAIN shall an abomination be created." This is further teased in MoS at the beginning of the movie on Krypton, we can see the moon is destroyed. Doomsday does that in the comics, hinting that he already exists.
Regardless of the reason I didn't mind the redesign. This wasn't a "seasoned" Doomsday. His inconic look with bone protrusions was basically his "evolutionary growth from dying and rebirthing." This Doomsday was just born, therefore would not have the iconic look yet. He has yet to die enough times. lol
No one does Hollywood superhero action like Zach Snyder. Such a fun ride
RIP Ryan Dunn. God bless you for keeping his memory going
This movie gets a 5 out of 5 from me any day of the week because what i saw in the theater compared to this was as different as night and day!!!
I was waiting for this review almost as much as the snyder cut itself!
Good gray scaling makes everything look 110% more classy IMO
I love the overall them of this movie. "Divided we fall, united we stand ." Very applicable to our current worldly climate
Grace, are you friends with Zach? You’ve had 4 interviews, and I recall you mentioning visiting the Warner Bros lot during your 2017 review...
Indeed, she's biased. This could be the biggest pile of turd ever and she'd only give it an average review.
@@milest4214 fair play to Grace but I would have opted out from doing a "review" and given some commentary of new inclusions that are good / not great without an overall assessment of the movie cause it's so difficult if you are friendly. Honestly, Zack seems like such a sweet person it would really be conducive to all this talk of anyone critiquing him harshly being "haters"
@@milest4214 nah it's actually a lot better than I expected it to be. It seems like Zack took the criticism for BvS to heart and it really shows. Not perfect, but still an awesome fucking movie.