The Future of Mobility
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- How will people engage with future transportation systems and how will that affect how people live their lives?
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How will the electrification of transport change how we move around in the world of the future? Will autonomous vehicles be a common means of transportation; on road, at sea and in the air? How does the technology work? What are the financial, legal and ethical implications of self-driving vehicles?
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The presenters in order of appearance are:
Robert Llewellyn (chair) - actor, comedian, writer and presenter
Christian Bedford - Head of Legal for Williams Advanced Engineering
Richard Morris - Innovation Lead for Connected & Autonomous at Innovate UK, the UK’s Innovation Agency
Alison Park - Director of Research at the Economic and Social Research Council, and Professor of Social Research at the UCL Institute of Education
This talk and Q&A was filmed in the Ri on 10 September 2019.
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Well, that started out well with Robert and went steadily, catastrophically downhill step by step with each one, until the last speaker spent 10 minutes saying absolutely nothing at all.
Like watching a string of TED talks.
I leave it to the reader to decide if that's a compliment or a criticism.
The depends, do you mean TED, or TEDx?
This one is definitely more TEDx. I like watching Fully Charged but the host is kind of an idiot lol. For the other speakers, I stopped at the flying cars..
@@danielr82 lol 😁
Always enjoy Robert, been a follower of Fully Charges pretty much from day 1 and Carpool before that. The others... meh...
Hyperloop 🙄
The future of mobility?
Rich people can travel while the rest stays most often in their villages or suburb. Like 200 years ago.
Extremely unlikely. Moving about has only gotten cheaper (compare the costs of a Taxi before ride sharing to the cost of an Uber today for instance) -- this cost efficiency will continue to improve as autonomy is introduced & other solutions like flying cars or tunnels are introduced & made more broadly available.
Technology gets cheaper. That's what it does.
When it's brand new & doesn't work very well, it's a toy for the rich. When it has been around a while & works extremely well, it's available to everyone. This is the general trend of all technology from electricity & the internet to cars & phones -- that's just how it works.
Nothing stays exclusive to the rich for long.
@@dr.zoidberg8666 Nothing stays with the rich, especially enviromantal taxes. How expensive is driving in California compared to Texas? In the end it's all about the benjamins.
And man does _never_ invent to solve problems, but to make good, good money. Look at the price tag. These stories of a better world for all are just promises of utopia.
Don't be bothered by that fact hat it's going the exact opposite way... you people are addicted to negative / doomsday "prophecies" (in that sense you are like the superstitious medieval peasants)
Great to see Bobby at the RI. This man has been instrumental to the adoption of electric vehicles. Love the man.
Omg can you please make more junk yard wars? I mean... great series of talks, but I miss that show so much! It may be a cool opportunity to re-do junk yard wars with an electric focus :o
London to Edinburgh in 3 and a half hours @ 700mph....Errrrrr. the maths doesn't add up.
It’s about 400 miles from London to Edinburgh, & there’s a train that does the trip in a little under 5 hours. A properly set up Mag-Lev (The Chinese have a couple) could do the trip in about 1-1/3 hours, & even a “slow Hyperloop” could do it in 40-45 minutes...
I thought there must be a miscalculation, Britain ain't that big :-)
1) The vehicle has to accelerate up to speed at a rate that 'normal' people can stand without spilling their coffee.
2) It is unlikely that it would go London to Edinburgh without other stops for pure economic reasons,
3) to date the tech is still unproven and very much in development.
Prepare for slower times, greater expense and huge delays!
John Michael - Airliners, MagLevs & other High Speed Rail systems don’t serve coffee on board until they’ve reached cruising speed, so no need to slow acceleration to keep people from spilling their coffee. The economics of High Speed Rail & similar systems requires that they don’t stop except at major cities or during emergencies, so this one would probably have only one stop on the way.
Just about every piece of tech from steam trains to smart phones we use nowadays was “unproven & very much in development” at one time or the other. India is building a Hyperloop from Pune to Mumbai, & China has already built multiple MagLevs that go over 300 mph.
Elon musk didn't come up with the "hyper loop" it's a dumb idea from the 1900s and it's not feasible.
This one should be viewed by more people - very interesting!
The title of this video 'The Future of Mobility'.. i hear nothing about a new kind of engine engineering based on energy eficiency,gravity reduction, where we humans beginn to demolish terrestrial infrastructure...
I'm very disappointed, is this the best top world engineers can come up with? Nothing presented in this video is a good vision, it's all same old junk packed with even more new junk, totally controlled and dependent by shady government agencies.
What we really need is completely new mentality, cars must became 100% safe to drive, comfortable, cheep to fuel and maintain, affordable for everybody and capable to drive over any kind of roads. They must be ecological and last entire owner's life.
Nobody need 1 tone heavy steel cage to move around, 4 kw of electric energy is enough to push vehicle 60 km/h, by small electric motors in every wheel, powered by batteries and small 2 kw gasoline generator for charging on the go. Simple hybrid like that could drive all day and use maybe 5 liters of gasoline for 1.000 km + traveled distance. Most efficient vehicle is velomobile, i don't mind pedal a bit while driving, it's also good entertainment and fitness. Small vehicles with strong and comfortable driver cabin mean twice as much traffic on same roads, with lower speeds, weight and electronics, worst traffic accidents would became thing of the dark past. Driving would became easy, no need for expensive insurances and special licenses, people could finally go wherever they want and move even if they run out of fuel. But no, they want to build even more same crappy cars, but with even more complicated and unreliable engines, more parts nobody use that brake down all the time, more power and worst accidents, just to be a bit faster, maintain control over population and earn more money. Thank you very much for your vision, very bad job, i don't need you, hope it never come true.
Lift your game, RI. Disappointed in this one sided, battery sponsored, shill fest.
13:50 middle east would have been relatively peaceful 😜 at USD haven't been this dominant, less information of USA & UK 😜
30:00 some people will find a way to ruin the seats. those need cctv to record damage and soiling of the compartment.
Those compartmentalized taxis will probably have glory holes carved into them in their first week or two . . . - j q t -
What would have happened if the electric car won the race way back in time ? The towns with diesel generators would still be reading only during daylight hours.
neddy laddy - AC & electric lights had already become established in many cities by the time electric cars had been invented, &, as a reliable electrical supply is required for EVs to function, towns would have had electrical service. Regarding diesel generators - As diesels were used in other forms of transport before they were put into cars, they would still be used as generators in many places.
@@TraditionalAnglican Trad ,This is true only for some countries. In my own country there are many towns reliant on diesel generators mainly because of the cost of extending the grid to them. Happily they can and are being moved onto renewable energy sources. My point was that if electric cars won the race long ago that diesel would not have been developed to the extent they have been and therefore not suitable for power generation, leaving residents in the dark.
neddy laddy - Diesel, steam (coal & Kerosene), Hydroelectric & windmill generators have all been around since the 1890’s, years before most people had even heard of automobiles. I just don’t see how EVs winning the “Auto Wars” in the 1900’s & 1910’s would’ve kept people in in the dark...
"The streets would be given back to the people who live in cities" - while in rural areas, there is still no infrastructure that'll let you live without a car, and as you have to enter a city for various reasons, you're then asked to pay an arm and a leg for parking somewhere on the periphery, and have to then take public transport inside (for which you have to pay again). That's how it's gonna be. Getting rid of the internal combustion engine vehicle will only be fair if there's a plan for people living in rural communities that won't make it ridiculously expensive to get around, or that will take away the need to travel long-distance for necessities.
Or death?
Have you heard of Amazon, DoorDash & other delivery services? How much range do you think BEVs have? Did you know it’s cheaper to charge your EV (at home & at public charging stations) for less money per mile/km than it is to fill even the most economical ICE cars, & that EVs are dramatically cheaper to maintain than ICE cars? Did you know that ALL of the major cities that are banning/“fining” ICE cars from/in their civic centers are allowing EVs to drive to their civic centers for FREE?
@@TraditionalAnglican Just like "free" charging, and "free" carpool/express lane access, all these "free" perks for EVs will go away in time too. Fact is, outside metro centres and adjacent suburbs, EVs and EV infrastructure, in their current and near future state, are not adequate. If EVs are cheaper to buy, and cost less to operate, why are so many people still buying ICE? Do they enjoy spending more money? No, it's because EV is not enough for the job.
And yes, everyone's heard of Amazon, but Amazon does not have everything, you can't touch and feel and compare on a website when you don't know the exact thing you want, and they're becoming highly monopolistic. 3rd party delivery costs significantly more than driving and getting it yourself.
MariusVan - I didn’t consider “free charging” for EVs - I figured EV owners would “pay the going rate” for electricity whether they charged at home or at a Public Charger. Regarding “Free Car Pool Lanes”, governments tend to “reward” those things they want to encourage & “punish” those things they want to discourage. As it’s “in the public interest” to encourage EV ownership & operation, I don’t see most governments cutting off the “Carpool Lane Benefit” for EVs until there are a LOT more EVs on the road than today...
You could have said that when the automobiles were first getting popular, that those contraptions are fine for wealthy city folk but it won't help the rural farmer. In fact you could have said that about many advancements since the dawn of cities. Sure it starts in cities and amongst the affluent, but technology and manufacturing productivity improves exponentially and becomes ubiquitous before you know it.
28:55 This argument "people are anti-social and we should not expect advances in ridesharing unless everyone gets their own compartment" is an absolutely devorced from reality worst-case fantasy. I've flown and taken public transport frequently for decades and even though people often do prefer to be left alone they also like to talk and communicate with others quite a lot, especially on long hauls. I've had nice conversations with hundreds of travelers on every type of transport, there was no agressive elbowing for space, and most people did not require large amounts of space for laptops or miniature train sets. People actually love company, especially in order to feel safe.
Also, my God, man, teach your daughters some courage, self-reliance and self-confidence! If they freak out everytime they have to be next to a stranger they do not belong outside of the house.
I use a new electric ride sharing minibus service where I live, the cars seat 8 people, they are spacious but not segregated, the driver is not locked inside a cabin either and there is a camera in the ceiling. As a registered member you call the bus from an app and just get in and get out as conveniently as can be. And even this man's daughters can use it because every passenger is identified and there are no dark corners for any funny business.
The truth is once people are offered attractive and modern public transport or ride-share they prefer it and choose it happly over their own cars, especially in conjested cities.
And, there’s NO requirement that seats on public transport be so tiny that people using it can’t sit comfortably, or that the bus/train, etc. be so filthy & dangerous that no sensible person would want to use it if there were an alternative that was available to that person!
I didn't like the corporate cutout with his ridiculous dramatic pauses who spoke after Robert. This type of man perspires trustunworthiness.
Hyperloop is bullshit though 😂 😂
How about opting for neither revolution nor evolution? On the roads of the sprawled part of a city, leave it in troglodytic state. But where there's potential to learn from failed revolutions, and also for revolution to succeed (something like a new Industrial Revolution?) let there be many small, experimental revolutions.
So do things like banning gas emitters from city centre, and hand this space over to autonomous pods (which could be programmed to form "trains" - and maybe even couple if that makes sense?). Put places significant numbers of people can't avoid going to out of reach of cars (including electric cars).
And start extending this to shopping malls. First you were not allowed to smoke there; now you're not allowed to let you car smoke a thousand packets a day in the parking lot or parkade. Take a pod to the mall if you don't want to walk the last 200m (and then the last mile, etc).
This way, you can try all sorts of variations out, and get some data in instead of just good ideas that might still fail.
And where an experiment looks successful, "expand its territory". Spiral around these centres until you have overlaps that create their own dynamics.
Possibly, someday... house to autonomous 3-wheeler ---> rapid rail ---> airport board electric turboprop ---> airport ---> rapid rail ---> city center adult hostel or exurban station to destination via 3-wheeler; then reverse the steps. Bicycle or tricycle could replace 3-wheeler
5G, In My Opinion: 4:24
Imagine thinking millions of crossing cars stirring up immense turbulence overhead and taking off beside you would be quiet.
I had to have a silent chuckle when the guy from Williams came on. I'm a big F1 fan and, well, lets just say they haven't done as well as expected the last few years.
Thank you for putting this up none the less. Love this channel.
"Why do we still use the term 'horsepower'" - we don't.
I loved the photo towards the end showing a pathway with a barrier across it - and unsightly streak of mud because the barrier excludes people on bicycles from taking the sensible route,
As usual this is all big city centered, what about the remote rural areas where there is not enough electrical supply etc. What about things like tractors and combine harvesters no current batteries would power these so diesel power will still be required.
Equiluxe1 one problem after another. The fossil problem in the rural areas is not that urgent
Of course it’s big city centered, because that’s where most people live & where these alternatives would have the most effect on pollution & congestion.
Did you know there are many ways to locally produce electricity (such as solar or wind) & supplement the power grid & that the power grid would be improved to meet the demand for the power these things would require? Did you know many of the world’s largest machines are now powered by electricity? And that tractors, combines etc. are heavy & large enough that they could handle the large (200-2000 KWh) battery packs that are needed to run them?
You might want to look at how some RUclipsrs live in rural areas & travel all over the place driving Teslas & other EVs.
@@jamestbg8132 There is a spin off from the change over to electric cars, ICE engines and that includes diesel engine of all sizes benefit at present from the huge production numbers as that goes down research and development funds do also. The smaller production runs will also put up costs which will make farm machinery and rural vehicles more expensive fuel to will increase in costs drastically as sales and production are reduced. All this means food costs will go through the roof unless of course subsidies increase to cover the cost increase,which is something the city folk will not like.
Living in a rural area means being behind the curve on culture & innovation -- that has been the deal since cities became a thing: the whole point of cities is that they are engines of innovation.
From a different perspective, affecting cities is also the quickest, easiest way to make the biggest impact on emissions. Just like you address the patient with a bullet wound before the patient with a head cold, you fix the cities before you fix the small rural communities.
Equiluxe1 from this position you are right. I guess you underestimate the point that everything is in change. Sure. If you simply raise the price of fossils the outcome is the one you described, but history shows. We never change a single point and everything else stays stagnant. Thats the power of the market: to adapt to conditions
hello guys :)
Thank you.
Someone needs to invent fusion powered vehicles
Cart before the horse there. Fusion power plants first, then other applications later... Besides, just having fusion power, you probably wouldn't have any need for powering your cars with little fusion reactors -- you've already got all the energy you could ever want. Just plug 'em in & charge 'em up.
Someone already has you know... cars powered by solar panels...
The first 2 speaker sounded like sales reps for some company. Electric stuff have been around for 20 years. Talk about it all its problems, and offer some solutions. NO, it well not be nice and quiet. Have you heard a quad-copter? Well, multiply that sound by 20 for EACH of the 1000s of those 'flying-solutions" buzzing above you. (lol what a joke) The Prof brought up some real issues, work on those if you truly want to bring about some good change. ADDRESS THE REAL PROBLEMS, AND KEEP YOUR MONEY MAKING SCHEMES TO A MINIMUM.
I'm sorry but we don't need cars in cities. We need car-free cities because the problem is density. And livability of cities. And they found out that living in cities that are largely free from cars work the best for people. We are people. 1+1
Depends on the city. LA would break down overnight if you took away the cars.
Within my lifetime, I bet they will probably get down to just a handful of roaming, self-driving cars in an entire town of perhaps 10,000 people. And my guess is that for those three-to-five minutes per day when one of these cars is not in use, it will be parked right outside my bedroom window, with its car alarm blaring incessantly while I am trying to sleep! - j q t -
Marinus - How are disabled & elderly people going to get around in car-free cities?!?
@@TraditionalAnglican There are plenty of good examples because there already are a lot of car free cities in the world. By that I mean specifically the heart of a city. In my country they have car free cities and disabled people get free transport of they get a special card that allows them to still go in. Your comment is one of the most heard objections to car free cities next to complaints of shopkeepers. People that ask these questions usually assume that car free cities mean a zero tolerance solution. But zero tolerance thinking is never a good idea :)
Does living in a city work?
No.
Electric cars are one of the most meager issues effecting hyper-dense living.
Sit in a container with the engine that generates the electric that powers your electric car for an hour. See how you do against the diesel car owner. Car emissions are dispersed across the country, the energy grid produces concentrated sports that burns holes in the ozone layer overhead.
Make the power grid clean and capable first, then push electric mobility.
10 min of bumleming..... I Love TRI,but for the love of G*D,,.....
If people don't like sharing rides, or using buses, make each car smaller. Buses are on average [much] less efficient than cars, because they're heavy and often mostly empty. Buses are also slower as they need to constantly stop for other passengers.
That's an argument for smaller buses, yes? Full-sized during peak travel times, mini-buses otherwise. It's also an argument for streetcars.
@@Hippiekinkster I agree, it's a case of using the right type bus for the demand at that time. Some of the routes that now rarely fill up a full sized bus could change to smaller buses. Routes that do fill up a full size bus during peak hours could keep the full size bus or maybe even be served by more small buses spread out during the peak demand period, this could actually reduce waiting times at the bus stop and make connecting rides easier to plan.
I don't think there's a one size fits all solution there tbh, a mixture of both is probably the way to go the demand for these services vary a lot for every location. Honestly I think a lot could be gained as well if we ever get to a point where our normal working hours change, both the total amount and start/end times of the day. It could really help with reducing the excessive traffic peaks we've got clogging up cities today.
@@extrastuff9463 - smaller, more frequent buses is a great idea. Most subway systems run trains more frequently during peak travel times and, if I recall rightly, London's Underground bans tourists prior to 7 or 8AM. I think, if I can get my act together, I will recommend doing such to our county commission soon. They are now podcasting the meetings; I'll look into the possibility of making suggestions online, along with banning plastic straws. Thanks!
@@Hippiekinkster Sadly I think more smaller buses won't catch on just yet since you'd need a bus driver per bus. And I'm not sure if it's viable to hire extra drivers to only work on the peak hours in the morning and late afternoon.
But as soon as buses will be driving autonomously I think it'll have a lot of potential. That rest time for part of the fleet could even be used for maintenance/inspections which take only a few hours at most.
Robert. There is some truth that new diesel is clean. But the problem is not that.... Problem is... that it is clean for... 100 000km 150 000km.... after that... Leaky injectors, soot buildup and DeCAT, deDPF, DeSCR.. etc. Engines wear out and emissions are NEVER checked correctly at annual inspections. NEVER. I've not seen an inspection that actually measures NOx emissions and PM10.
New diesels are clean. But during last year of their life they pollute more than during first 10.
"New diesels are clean" ≠ "Later in life they pollute more than before"
Do this test if you really believe Diesels are clean: hold your baby's face to the exhaust pipe of a running diesel for 1 minute and report back with the result.
That “clean” is a marketing gag and only works in a really small temperature corridor
@@jamestbg8132 No, exactly not, there is no "clean" with fossil fuel cars, in any circumstance. Even hydrogen is a ridiculously wasteful, inefficient and expensive technology.
Let's all just remember this helpful abbreviation: DBFTGP - Don't Burn Fuel To Go Places
@@2nd3rd1st Don't be plain dumb. No need to "insert kittens or babies for emotional manipulation". Exhaust is hot and full of water vapour. Do your test as well. There are no toxic pollutants with new diesel vehicle with SCR system.
But it is sad that you want some hype with sticking baby face into extremely hot gas that is clean.
As you don't know what are you talking about... ahh. dumb.
@@tarassu One has to appeal to people's feelings. Nobody cares if your 46 year old chain smoking Bulgarian cousin gets a face full of diesel. He'd probably like it....