Compared: Fake vs Genuine Apple Magsafe Chargers

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @helloken
    @helloken 7 лет назад +13

    Just repeating what everyone has already said - Liteon is a legitimate genuine Apple charger. I got one in a sealed Apple retail box and it is Liteon. This therefore is not a good way to spot a fake. I actually have one that says Delta and if anything it is more suspect of being a fake.
    Instead guys, try this method - Go to Apple menu, hold alt on your keyboard and go to system information that appears when you hold alt. Then power, then scroll all the way down and if your magsafe charger is connected, you should see information about it such as the ID, wattage, family, and Serial Number (which should match what it says inside the charger). If you see nothing, you may have a fake.
    Just wanted to share this. I cannot guarantee this method is a sure fire way to detect real from fake, but I didn't see this mentioned, and is a definite possibility that fakes don't have this information programmed inside of them. My eBay charger looks super duper realistic, even came in an opened Apple box, but doesn't read any of the ID, Family, Wattage, or Serial number information. It reads Delta electronics. Whoever it is claimed to be made by, its so easy for the fakers to copy that. We don't actually know who it is REALLY made by...

    • @czaras_
      @czaras_ 7 лет назад +2

      I've checked it with fake and genuine, both display serial information. You need to switch off and on system information panel after switching the charger.

  • @Daniel-qr6dq
    @Daniel-qr6dq 8 лет назад +33

    The 85w Magsafe charger that came with my 2015 rMBP straight from the Apple store in Sydney is a Liteon, not a Delta.

    • @helghast95
      @helghast95 6 лет назад +6

      Because liteon is a partner of apple so it is NOT an indicator of a fake. A bit annoying that these real vs fake videos floating on RUclips always point this out when it is not true. It's like saying I'm not Asian because I have white skin colour

    • @HoLDoN4Sec
      @HoLDoN4Sec 5 лет назад +1

      in 2013 apple has made partnership with liteon to be a 2nd producer for their power supplies alongside delta electronics, nearly all macbook air's from 2013 to 2018 in europe have a liteon charger while in the us they have delta chargers

    • @boyan.guitar
      @boyan.guitar 4 года назад

      @@HoLDoN4Sec my mid 2012 pro is Liteon too. I've always had grounding problems and slight shocking when I lightly touch the metal parts of the laptop

    • @HoLDoN4Sec
      @HoLDoN4Sec 4 года назад +1

      @@boyan.guitar is it a retina model? These generally came with liteon chargers in 2012

    • @adrianTNT
      @adrianTNT 3 года назад +1

      @@HoLDoN4Sec So this one in the video should be genuine too ? Made by Liteon ?

  • @eriksmithdrummer
    @eriksmithdrummer 7 лет назад +5

    A very simple way to separate the fake from the real one is to tap it with your finger. The fake one will sound "hollow" and actually resonate a bit. The genuine one feels and sounds very compact with no vibration.

  • @Bodragon
    @Bodragon 6 лет назад +6

    (6:47) - It is NOT "incredibly dangerous". The voltage is there because it has been inducted. This very same thing happens a lot, all the time, with many different appliances and chargers. Even top quality ones. Poor quality design and construction _can_ be dangerous, of course, but you need to understand the risks and to do that you have to look inside the electronic device and see if they are using opto couplers and to note the distance between high and low voltage tracks on PCB and many other things.
    A little bit of knowledge can make you over-fearful. I suppose at least that will keep you safe.
    To see if that 95V is *_really_* dangerous, you should connect straight to mains ground and measure the current draw. I'm sure you'll find it in the micro amps range. Enough to give you a slight tingle but not dangerous at all.
    Post edit: If you remove or put a break in the grounding of the genuine Apple charger, you'll very likely find a similar reading of around 95V between the laptop case and ground. This isn't caused by mains "leaking" through, as you say, but through inductance and is irritating but entirely safe. Go on. Try it.

    • @DieselRamcharger
      @DieselRamcharger 4 года назад +1

      double insulated not grounded. are you high?

    • @Bodragon
      @Bodragon 4 года назад

      ​@@DieselRamcharger Yeah you're right.
      I had assumed (wrongly) that the metal stud that secures the different types of mains plugs , (which when attached, is connected through to the earth pin of the UK type plug) was also connected to the exposed metal parts of the old phono-style charger, thereby giving some extra protection.
      It isn't.
      And I was tired, not high.
      >

  • @zaib4tsu
    @zaib4tsu 8 лет назад +14

    As already suggested, Lite-on make genuine chargers for apple (along with Delta, and others). What you've found here is just a copying of genuine text from a different genuine charger to your one. Any logical person could deduct that if they're going as far as copying the entire design and Apple logo, they wouldn't think twice about duplicating the text. So that is not a way to spot genuine from fake (I know this because I've had Lite-on AND Delta made chargers purchased from the Apple store directly).

    • @zaib4tsu
      @zaib4tsu 8 лет назад +4

      FYI the light grey text is not an indication of anything either, I have plenty of genuine chargers that have fairly light text. I think you should emphasise these corrections in your description so that people aren't binning legitimate chargers. However the multimeter and weight measurements are very useful, and while I can see them correcting the weight in the future (via dead weight), at least fixing the AC current issue would require a step towards safer fake adaptors. It's ridiculous that it's come down to this and I think Apple should implement some kind of genuine-checker mechanism in the interest of global safety.

    • @andyjnash
      @andyjnash 8 лет назад +1

      Yes I have a genuine Liteon one too - bought from Apple Store in Cambridge UK. My Delta 'fake' one has started buzzing/getting hot and am returning it - the green light comes on immediately which is the only real giveaway on mine. All the text etc is perfectly recreated - oh, and even on my genuine chargers the earth pin is all plastic

    • @adrianTNT
      @adrianTNT 3 года назад

      Did you notice differences between the Delta and Liteon ? E.g quality, weight, one of them sounding less compact than the other (as someone said).

  • @im_pharaoh
    @im_pharaoh 7 лет назад +4

    One of the first giveaways is the fact that the UL GS mark is missing as well

  • @Zebra_Paw
    @Zebra_Paw 2 года назад +1

    The big problem with these chargers is that they cannot use the ground from the ac cord.
    But if you do not use the ac cord, it will have no ground anyway...

  • @shaples
    @shaples 7 лет назад +2

    One of the easiest ways to tell that i've noticed is that with the fakes, when you attach the connector to the mac, sometimes it turns green immediately then goes to orange rather than staying off until it makes contact with the power firmware in the MacBook.

    • @mrdobika4635
      @mrdobika4635 3 года назад +1

      my genuine does the same, so no

    • @chauthanhphan6066
      @chauthanhphan6066 2 года назад

      @@mrdobika4635 The same what? Will it (the LED) light up immediately when plugged in or delay for a while and then light up? plz answer.

    • @mrdobika4635
      @mrdobika4635 2 года назад

      @@chauthanhphan6066 you connect, there's a delay, it turns green, then turns orange if not fully charged. bear in mind, there's a chip in the charger measuring the capacity/voltage of the battery then decides to charge.

    • @chauthanhphan6066
      @chauthanhphan6066 2 года назад

      @@mrdobika4635 So it will start up green immediately then go to orange? Or delay a bit and then go green.

  • @pratikkhadka253
    @pratikkhadka253 6 лет назад +4

    How do we know if the serial number is real or fake ??

  • @Retired-Survivor
    @Retired-Survivor 5 лет назад

    I've been complaining about the MagSafe Adapters for years. This video was very enlightening to me. The Magsafe by Liteon has lasted over five years. The real one made by Delta lasted only a dozen charges.
    I do however need to "PLUG" a moldable flexible putty called Sugru®. Put that around the wire connection on the mag end. As the wire ages and cracks, add more putty. Just be aware, too much putty makes the Magsafe to heavy to stay connected.

  • @ianno3
    @ianno3 8 лет назад

    Great video.
    I purchased a charger from Amazon Warehouse not too long ago, in Like New condition. It had absolutely no blemishes; it looked brand new. Looks like it is indeed real, and I got it for $50. To those looking to save money, it's a good option to go that route. Make sure you go direct from Amazon and not a third-party seller, though.

  • @tmlawson2009
    @tmlawson2009 6 лет назад +1

    That's so scary. Thank you so much for sharing. Have you seen if Ebay made them discontinue these? This definitely needs to be reported. Thanks again

    • @archivearranger8792
      @archivearranger8792 6 лет назад

      The market for fake chargers is HUGE. eBay has not cracked down, and the number of sellers using deceptive or outright lying listings means you have to look through each listing, cross reference feedback and reviews, and use your own common sense.
      If the price is low, if they have hundreds in stock, if it ships from China - those are all signs or a fake.
      The market won't go away until Apple sells refurbished chargers. They keep taking old chargers off the market, so these dangerous ones will persist. Be careful, and be vigilant!

  • @iandavis302
    @iandavis302 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video it was most helpful. There are some real rougues on eBay. I bought a 60 Watt charger from a guy in Melbourne who claimed it was a genuine charger he had bought but never used. The price was quite high but about right for a second hand genuine unit. What the guy had done is put a fake charger in a genuine Apple box and resealed the box.
    I had this unit for some years but only as a spare. I have just done the following checks:
    (i) Compared its weight to what I knew to be a genuine Apple charger and they were the same.
    (ii) The mains leakage test was fine.
    (iii) I probed the magsafe connector and found that instead of providing the 6.8V sense voltage it was providing about 17V. This would account for why there was no delay in the green light coming on.
    (iv) I dismantled the unit and compared it with my old unit - The genuine unit had a completely different PCB to the fake. Most importantly the fake didn’t have the controller that switch from the 6.8V sense voltage to full dc output.
    Both units had the manufacture label Dongguan Samung Electronics. The serial number on the box the fake came in was similar to my old charger but didn’t match the fake.

  • @bittertruth6575
    @bittertruth6575 4 месяца назад

    I just got 2 of these replacements from Aliexpress and I can confirm that mine have 100v AC at the pins even when they are not connected. Incredibly dangerous! The connector tip itself has 12v AC on it! Genuine chargers have 2v-3v on the tips when they are not connected and ONLY give full 14v-20v DC when they detect that they have been connected to the laptop.

  • @marcusgigliotti209
    @marcusgigliotti209 3 года назад

    Super informative video! It's not just fake chargers, it's cheap aftermarket chargers too. I figured this out without a voltmeter though... Made the mistake of touching the strings on a plugged in electric guitar while touching my charging macbook metal unibody and got a really nasty zap.

  • @adrianTNT
    @adrianTNT 3 года назад

    I wonder what will they say if you take it to the Apple store and ask them to check it's warranty status.
    Because I assume the will not help if you ask them if is fake or not.

  • @electrotech741
    @electrotech741 8 лет назад

    Yep. I put a video up of the transformer noise a fake counterfeit 10W iPad charger makes when you plug them in. And the fake markings. I got my money back form the eBay seller ; They were cool about it. But they still list them as OEM!

  • @ver64
    @ver64 8 лет назад +6

    I have a better way to spot a fake one, if you bought it on EBay for $20 bucks under "new, original" .....well is Fake...end.

    • @BRBallin1
      @BRBallin1 6 лет назад +1

      I bought mine for $15 from a local seller, but the seller said it's genuine and it charges well too...so the price isn't necessarily a foolproof metric to use.

  • @ReallyFilthyToad
    @ReallyFilthyToad 6 лет назад

    For the record: The 45w Magsafe 2 charger that came inbox with my Macbook Air weighs 132g.

  • @shahzad-ul-hassan25
    @shahzad-ul-hassan25 3 года назад

    My macbook Air 2017's charger gets heated within 2 minutes. So I doubt it? What do you say?

  • @BRBallin1
    @BRBallin1 6 лет назад

    Some dude sold me his MagSafe 2 85W for only $15. Looks like it's genuine, but just very old (2012) one that was probably in the shelf most of the time.

  • @Meatloaf_8462
    @Meatloaf_8462 4 года назад +1

    Very helpfull, thankyou. Do you think it will damage my mac if it fake?

    • @adrianTNT
      @adrianTNT 3 года назад

      More importantly, it can "damage" you or the house, someone said here that their fake charger exploded, others say it sends too much voltage trough the laptop case, this can happen and is very serious. Parts are cramped inside, it can make contact from high voltage to the low voltage lines, kind of dangerous for user.

  • @miamiwax5504
    @miamiwax5504 6 лет назад +3

    I bought a used macbook for 350$ and the genuine charger is like goddamn 75$. Doesnt that seem just a little bit wrong?

    • @ЭтоДрючинский
      @ЭтоДрючинский 5 лет назад +1

      Same! :(

    • @rutujarathodsays
      @rutujarathodsays 4 года назад

      My charger just stopped working randomly today. It's just 18 months old so used quite less yet out of warranty for the replacement. Here in India new charger costs even more. New one here is for a whooping $120! I'm gonna die out of starvation!

  • @frankbeaumont9695
    @frankbeaumont9695 8 лет назад

    I purchased the exact same fake on eBay - it just exploded after a few hours use! Good lesson to learn - if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. These things can kill, lesson learned. It's not worth the cheap price.

  • @futebolzone8989
    @futebolzone8989 7 лет назад

    Ola, meus carregadores estao quebrando todos.. os 5 pinozinhos dele ou queimam , derretem ou entram para dentro.. em duas semanas ja aconteceu duas vezes... esta aquecendo bastante... alguem sabe porque isso acontece? e como resolve? tenho o macbook pro

  • @mattwiens123
    @mattwiens123 6 лет назад

    What year are these, because I have noticed the new ones feel a lighter than the old ones even though the are the same size.

  • @fazlfazl2346
    @fazlfazl2346 6 лет назад +3

    They are so expensive...better to keep the battery in sunlight and let heat charge it.

  • @alan2102006
    @alan2102006 7 лет назад +2

    Actually both are real. Multiple manufacturers make the magsafe because they can't make enough.

    • @mZToyadiva101
      @mZToyadiva101 3 года назад

      My charger has a box around the 85 so does that make it a fake? It also has Liteon on it

    • @letsRegulateSociopaths
      @letsRegulateSociopaths 2 года назад

      because they die constantly I assume

  • @SUNNYSKAIS
    @SUNNYSKAIS 7 лет назад +2

    Liteon makes Apple power supplies.

  • @uzaiyaro
    @uzaiyaro 8 лет назад +2

    Lite-On do make genuine chargers for Apple. This one would have just copied the printing.

  • @Tony.Technics.1200s
    @Tony.Technics.1200s 3 года назад

    My 85 watt charger that came with my MacBook Pro says Liteon.

  • @odyshape
    @odyshape 5 лет назад

    If I take my suspected fake charger to a genius bar, will they do this same test?

  • @sheila7909
    @sheila7909 8 лет назад +1

    Very helpful video. Thank you

  • @godofhope
    @godofhope 8 лет назад

    So is Liteon a fake one? Somewhere someone wrote the Delta one I fake... But my Original Apple Agsafe is from delta and my new one from Liteon, which is obviously a fake one (other cable length, led glows right from the beginning of charging ...)

    • @SeanMcCullough7
      @SeanMcCullough7  8 лет назад

      liteOn is not generally a fake, the clones have simply cloned the LiteOn charger at some point - you have to use other means to check legitimacy. A good first check is the spelling of the label.

    • @godofhope
      @godofhope 8 лет назад

      +Sean McCullough many say the light on time on LED on the mag safe when connected should take a moment, on the fake one the LED switches on instantly. and of course the length of the cable ...

    • @SeanMcCullough7
      @SeanMcCullough7  8 лет назад

      That's correct, the genuine Apple chargers authenticate with the logic board and check if the charger is correctly connected before charging the mac. Most fake chargers bypass this protection circuitry and have the LED in series or triggered by a transistor as soon as the supply is connected.

  • @indigorain785
    @indigorain785 5 лет назад

    Or. What you can do is go to the Apple store and ask one of the workers there if it’s fake or real.

  • @GrandEpsilon
    @GrandEpsilon 8 лет назад +2

    The last one I bought from the apple store has Liteon on it

    • @jrmath2003
      @jrmath2003 5 лет назад +1

      GrandEpsilon you went to a fake apple store jk

  • @techobsessed1
    @techobsessed1 9 лет назад +1

    Interesting. We got a "Genuine" Magsafe Charger from Groupon. I'm suspicious of it.
    The markings are faint, like yours. The manufacturer is "Liteon," like yours. The cable is packaged like yours, and feels stiffer than I'd expect from Apple.
    It weighs 230g, a little more than yours, and it doesn't rattle. But...
    Like yours, the full 20v output is enabled before it is connected to the Mac.

    • @SeanMcCullough7
      @SeanMcCullough7  8 лет назад

      +Tech Obsessed
      Chances are that it's a 3rd party manufacture; but considering Groupon, it's likely a decently well designed unit.
      Keep an eye out if other purchasers raising issues, otherwise it's likely fine.
      If it is unlicensed 3rd party equipment with an Apple logo however, looks like an interesting lawsuit will ensue!
      Thanks for watching

    • @AlanAyrtonCastroToala
      @AlanAyrtonCastroToala Месяц назад

      @@SeanMcCullough7I have a MacBook that uses type C, I want the charge that of my charger to be optimal.. the cube is original but the cable is generic, does the cable also matter? Or just import the cube and the cable can be anyone

  • @overtext
    @overtext 9 лет назад +1

    great info...thanks for the investigation!!!!

  • @pacmanpaquette
    @pacmanpaquette 6 лет назад

    thanks for that video, just got a used charger from ebay for cheap and it felt really light and had that stiff cord, no SN near the ground lug and that step where the figure 8 connector is. I opened it up and it is clearly fake! Looks real from a distance but its definitively not.

  • @amberb9701
    @amberb9701 9 лет назад

    My charger's text is kind of faint, but I am wondering if it is legit or not. All other text on the charger is OK.

  • @mounRaag
    @mounRaag 4 года назад +1

    I purchased my Macbook from Apple store and it is a Liteon, not Delta. Stop spreading unverified info.

  • @MakerUSA
    @MakerUSA 7 лет назад +4

    total nonesense, do so research before making a video like this and creating confusion. Apple chargers are made by both Delta and Liteon, I have both, both officially bought from Apple!

    • @DieselRamcharger
      @DieselRamcharger 4 года назад

      even OEM's are subject to fraud in the supply chain. your point of purchase in no way guarantees authenticity.

    • @UmarSear
      @UmarSear 4 года назад

      @@DieselRamcharger I have had both Liteon and Delta chargers come with brand new MacBooks from Apple!

    • @DieselRamcharger
      @DieselRamcharger 4 года назад

      @@UmarSear like i said OEM's often distribute counterfeit goods. Just because it came in the box doesnt even make it an official product. Thats how out of control shit is with China. Now its much more likely to get counterfeit IC's INSIDE a product. But i digress. Lots and lots of documented cases of OEM's receiving counterfeit items through the supply chain that then get passed to the consumer. You really have no idea how this all works, which is painfully obvious. try to follow the bouncing ball. Just because an item comes from an OEM in original packaging does not guarantee its authenticity. Thank You Third World Countries.

    • @UmarSear
      @UmarSear 4 года назад

      @@DieselRamcharger I am part of supply chain, what you are saying is just not true. An OEM is going to buy directly from a 1st tier manufacturer, there is no concept of LiteOn or Delta supplying counterfeits!

  • @Kellythelegend
    @Kellythelegend 9 лет назад +1

    Just found out my charger is fake

  • @magedmmh
    @magedmmh 7 месяцев назад

    Mine came with the computer and made by Liteon

  • @myverynow
    @myverynow 8 лет назад

    95 volts on chassis, sounds like jail time for these guys (it should, in a normal world) well...

  • @kijetikimavi
    @kijetikimavi 5 лет назад

    South African dude

  • @Tarcitius1
    @Tarcitius1 7 лет назад +1

    Absolutely impossible. this is Apple sponsored to buy those expensive chargers. The wire which come out of the charger give at the most 16v so it's impossible that the keyboard gives 95. This is rubbish : (

    • @henreyish
      @henreyish 7 лет назад

      The power supply is tying something from the output side to the hot side of the AC input. Sure, the voltage difference between the two sides of the output is some number in the lower 2-digit range of volts, but the fake is tying that to the hot side, whereas the real charger either ties it to ground/neutral, or leaves it floating.

  • @Kellythelegend
    @Kellythelegend 9 лет назад

    Greattttttt

  • @KEKnightCS1
    @KEKnightCS1 9 лет назад

    who the ffff cares, if it charges a macbook...... who cares

    • @SeanMcCullough7
      @SeanMcCullough7  8 лет назад +1

      +carl cagle
      Safety and emission standards exist for a reason - we as a human race tend to try to distance ourselves from danger. Knock-off power supplies (especially those that go to the effort to counterfeit entirely) don't go through these design and manufacturing tests, and minimal quality control.
      If you're okay with using something that isn't safe (Not saying all 3rd party chargers are bad, just the use of the badly made chargers) and you're aware of the risks and how to mitigate them, all power to those that are happy with it (no pun intended).
      If it comes down to a product saving me $50 for the likelihood of either damage to myself our my Mac, I personally don't take that risk.
      Thanks for watching!

    • @KEKnightCS1
      @KEKnightCS1 8 лет назад

      +Sean McCullough I like the way you think.....despite that yeah its worth $40 getting shocked to prove a point......in private, great pun btw brah

    • @sachit4
      @sachit4 8 лет назад

      What are the potential risks of using such a charger?