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Hands-On with Looking Glass 8K Holographic Display!
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2022
- We go hands-on with the new Looking Glass 4K and 8K holographic displays and catch up with Looking Glass co-founder Shawn Frayne to talk about what the company has been working on since shipping their desktop Portrait device. The size and resolution of their large 8K lightfield display combined with hand-tracking input allows for holographic interactions like what we've only seen in science fiction films!
Shot by Josh Self and edited by Norman Chan
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It's really exciting seeing the slow evolution of this company's products
You sold me with that Tony Stark pitch. As someone who dabbles in VR, having that interactive visualization is something I would love to experience without VR goggles. I’ll wait till to see if Gen 3 will be cheaper and maybe use this as an additional monitor.
Get a 3D TV or beamer and feed it the sbs output preview from steamvr .. comes close to that, but needs some fixes in the aspect ratios and it sucks not beeing able to turn arround in games for that u would need a 5..10m spherical white room and a lot of projectors that show the field of view.. better vr / ar glasses would do the job more effective ;)
'additional monitor' that requires a 3090Ti and Dual DP1.4 connectors?
@@mycosys It would be mostly for specialized applications. It will still be awhile before this is even somewhat practical as an actual monitor. I can't imagine the latency on this thing.
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Very cool. Imagine doing a 1:1 video call with software that would allow you to look each other in the eyes , while cameras are off to the sides. That would be an incredible experience
Google has this in the works - “project starline”
Imagine looking another human in the eyes and having a conversation. What incredible technology.
@@IllogicalMachine Don't be an ass. Some people have loved ones who live far away.
@@IllogicalMachine You have to add a little something extra to make it feel awe-inspiring.
"Imagine having a face-to-face conversation complete with direct eye contact with another human who is on the other side of the planet. What incredible technology."
or, you know, just go see them and ask them how they're doing
As a cad engineer, this looks like it would be incredible for cad with a space mouse
I love my space mouse
"space mouse"
Sounds futuristic
I’m glad this company is expanding steadily.
Saw the 8K one a month+ ago at MIT. I would love that to be my monitor with an OS that took advantage of it.
Im glass the Looking Glass folks were there, was a very fun event.
Soon enough, these things will be like $5000, then $500.
I'm hoping that as things develop the price of the portrait will go down because I feel like it would be a really good gift.
Yeah, the portrait is pretty reasonable for such a new technology but I do hope the price comes down. It's still too much for me. I'd love to have one on my desk.
I would maybe want a slightly larger and horizontal version of the portrait
@@njdotson so? landscape?
@@seanrice5313 was that what the wide prototypes were called or are you suggesting they rotate the device? You can’t rotate the device, the technology is unidirectional.
That jet engine demo with the leap motion controller is a big step in a good direction.
Man do I love the products you have on this channel. Simply amazing and products I will absolutely love if I bought them. But they are also so far out my budget lol. But hey!…in a few years…you never know. Always on the cutting edge of these niche products, I love it.
I wish you guys great progress, I have the portrait but one day will get that 8k for sure!
It is so weird that I didn't see this company before, I'm so intrigued to understand how this works!
Exciting pioneer tech right here! Can see this becoming a standard of future display tech.
That's progressing very nicely. Looks interesting, can't wait to see one IRL.
This is amazing... the future is going to be awesome with this !!!!!!
I’m someone with mono vision, So I’ve never been able to see 3-D, this is a game changer for me I will actually be able to see and experience 3-D
You would benefit from the head tracking, at least. As you probably know, our brains can perceive depth from motion, not just stereoscopy.
@@GamesFromSpace yeah
The Nintendo 3DS has also been said to help people with mono vision if you want to experience 3D with cheaper and easily accessible technology.
Congratulations sir,I look forward to hearing more about your continuing success.
Massive innovation. Light-field yeah baby.
3d cameras, multiple displays of the 8k size (or just one) video calls. That would be very helpful for virtual meetings since it would allow see non-verbal ques and feel much more like in person meetings. Higher quality and 3d audio would also need to be added.
Avatars rendered by the GPU on the filming device would also be possible.
It would be cool to see this in a projector system to create truly massive Light Field video walls.
I would have been interested to hear a question about how they are working on fixing the narrow viewing angle, I can't image that a convention display with a 25 degree viewing angle from directly in front of the display is great for crowds.
Way to show Sean Connery as a ThunderBirds puppet...🤣🤣🤣🤣
I might actually have to get this for my 3d art (not the 8k but the smaller ones)
Would be super cool for video calls....as long as both sides have 1gbps fiber...
The Portrait is an exciting piece of tech, and I've really enjoyed messing with rendering for it in Blender. I can't imagine how cool the 8K must be... A shame it costs an _actual fortune._ 😬
How much does it cost?
@@soundsofasphere $20K
I'm convinced now that this is a genuine, practical piece of technology, and not just some gimmick. I can't wait to see it come to fruition, and ubiquitously adopted. 😀
this is a great tech. I am excited to see how this is going to be in the future
Still "only" side-to-side like a lenticular display, or am I wrong? Looks fantastic anyway! (or as good as it can be shown on a 2D display in HD).
It's a little more than normal side-to-side but yes it is lenticular. They essentially just angle the lenses to be more diagonal instead of vertical. This gives it a feeling of being multi-axis light field when it technically isn't. If someone needed a true full multi-axis lightfield, they would need to instead wait to get something like a Solid Light display from Light Field Lab. But those displays are not yet for the consumer audience. Maybe one day they will though :)
I can see something like this used in the haunt industry with great results!
Wow, incredible tech
These look amazing! Now to hope I either get rich enough or they get cheap enough to afford one
Remember when LCD, plasma, and other flatscreen TVs and monitors came out. Even modest-sized ones were several thousand dollars. Then in the span of a decade, they're as cheap as old CRT models used to be.
Absolutely awsome tech for entertainment industry.
This is awesome - but performance wise this probably only skyrockets when they manage to actually redirect the light off of a 2d image based on a depth map on the fly. The depth map would (additionally to the depth) also manage the amount of information per area, which makes it tricky to generalize the way the 2d base image is setup... The current approach (streaming every perspective fully) won't scale well, I assume. Somehow the base data has to be reused as much as possible and only _enriched_ by the data, that is visible from other perspectives. Maybe some learnings from VR can be applied here, with dynamic level of detail and 3d render caching to keep the fps up (or in this case: to keep the data up for different perspectives). If nothing precise works an AI might help to fill in the gaps. In any case: Awesome tech - looking forward to see it evolve!
Would love to see it in person one day. I live in germany - so if it gets displayed on one of the many exposition grounds here I'll try to check it out!
I'd like to see a 1st person cross-view/parallel-view photo or video demo, to see how it looks, physically interacting with these displays.
same
awesome!
They need to make a video dome with panels of these, it’d be like a real life Cerebro. Better yet virtual production like they did on the Mandalorian
I remember Shawn from his ingenious Humdinger vibrating wind turbine. I guess something about the economics or physics didn't work out, but it was still a great idea.
Make VR videos and post them on RUclips or some other vr accesible medium. I have a valve index and would like to see what it looks like without having to take a plane to your office
Omg amazing
8k frame for 17000 and requires an RTX 3090--that's right in my budget!
Mine too, with some spare left to my whole familiy to a ski resort.
@@blueredbrick As in buying an entire ski resort right :D
@@ior314 yeah, and lets buy the mountain too
I doubt it's aimed at personal use...but I'll be pushing for one of these at work (you have to buy credits to convert the images to their 3D format from what I can tell)
Did they mention the actual resolution of the 8k? If its 45 elements, that's 8k divided by 45. So around 0.7MP? Does the fact of having multiple views overlayed increase the apparent resolution?
It just shows how much data you need to project lightfields.
A SketchUp integration would be epic.
Looks like vr without a headset on your face lol 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
This feels like the future
It does but i think this tech will be at least a decade away before it hits mainstream, probably even a bit longer
It feels like a nintendo 3dx from 2011
I'd love to have one of these on my desk, beautiful. My first thought though, is 3D anime girls... lol
does it always need to be connected to a pc? or is the pc needed just to create the file which is then transferred to the looking glass device?
If these were more affordable, I would love to see some people hacking it. Meaning using it in a way that wasn't intended but is better. For example not using the different angles to show the same scene. You could also display different states of time based on what angle you are viewing it. Or color, or intensity of the parallax effect. Or inversed parallax etc etc.
There is a bunch of stuff that might be possible outside the current domain.
Great to see the Leap Motion finally get s output device that it works great with.
Notice the glowy blue line around the edge of the image. Then watch the main screen on the bridge of the original enterprise in an episode from the 60s.
I wish Norm had a bit more tech understanding - my mind is boggled as to how they can have 45-100 angles of 8k resolution sent down a pair of DP1.4 cables that normally would only support 4 8k streams between them? What is the actual structure of thins thing?
I dont want to know how much Bigger it can get. I want to know how Small it can get. Like can this replace the screens in VR headsets? And can it get rid of that "screen door" effect im seeing in this video? Once it gets to that point, it will give other current VR headsets a run for its money (provided the refresh rate is high enough).
Reminds me of the Prey looking glass they had in the game.
Imagine a theater size screen
8k shown in 1080p... Any idea if you guys are going to up your resolution output.. or am I so early we're only getting 1080p?
The 8K is in reference to the screen the system is using to create the lenticular effect.
@@AmusementLabs of course it is. This is more a poke at what resolution Tested films at. Phones and monitors are quickly becoming more relevant at 4k... Are we going to see a bump in filming resolution was my ask?
my optoma 3D projector does about the same in roomscale size, if i feed it the side by side video preview of my good old rift cv1 while tracking (1)
(2) with it .. the picture ratio is some how bendy tho, would rather see an adapted gear for that than buyin such a tiny display, i don't mind wearing lcd shutters and tracking they can be made smaller too, can someone fix that image bending ?
Would be great to get web cams working with this for live chat
Need this for a Weeping Angel photo :)
Holodeck here we come!
A VR180 video of the screen would be cool! Could actually see the 3Dness
How many years till this is a cinema screen?
Cinemas will be out of business in probably 15 years. :(
oh that is cool
If i were running a studio trying to sell execs/VCs on VR experiences i would DEARLY want to be able to show them one of these before trying to make them strap on a silly headset
This would have worked really well with the 3D camera in the Nintendo 3DS
Could they put out promo material for the Quest so that we could "see it in person" and maybe even dev for it?
I can’t wait to see this technology coming to theatres as a replacement to old 3D. Just what James Cameron has been looking for
It getting to the point where u need to get a new tv every year to keep up
Games games games on holographic format please! Thanks for the interview
Shawn, any interest from radiology/imaging departments? Would love to get one of these @ UNC to see how MPR could be handled. 🤩🤯
I work on VR software for the same stuff, and I want to try these as alternatives.
its interesting how expensive it seems until you put it in the context of medical engineering / computer aided engineering in general - 20k is lucky to be your software license
@@mycosys for sure! A regular 12MP mammography diagnostic display would cost about the same as this 8K.
What about dimenco simulated reality screens?
in 1080... great job
Are you going to look at the new future motion onewheel?
Are you cool with the anti right to repair features that future motion has added to the onewheel GT?
isn't light field tech what Magic Leap uses in their AR glasses?
That's crazy
I still think that the premature death of 3D TVs is a bummer because a lot of this could be done (albeit for a single viewer) with just a pair of lightweight polarized 3D glasses and an eye tracker. A technique I was really looking forward to before 3D TVs died out. It also has a few other advantages in that the resolution is only halved rather than divided by all the different viewing angles this uses whether there is an eye viewing that particular angle or not (lower resolution and wasted processing power).
This is amazing technology for installations and group viewing but for a single user dedicated experience a regular stereoscopic display with eye tracking would be better. And the tech already exists... maybe Avatar 2 can reignite the 3D displays... well I can dream at least...
Imagine showing this shit to someone from the 1920's. They'd probably lose their absolute fucking minds. We're living in the future, this kind of tech is the kind of thing we'll be seeing a lot more of in the coming decades.
I was expecting a high price and I get that it’s for very unique use cases, but $20,000… legitimately dropped my jaw for a second lol.
The Lisa was close to that in today's money when it was released. These are affordable for large businesses that need 3D displays without goggles.
Good to know we are indeed living in the Prey universe
I honestly hope this technology is widely adopted. I still want a Hydrogen One mobile. Really I want to game on it more than anything.
The first holographic movie I'm going to sht my pants!😂
Holodeck, let's go. Chop chop
On the double.
Could possibly lead to a holodeck of sorts
Why does Tested still upload in 1080p? It's frustrating not being able to experience this footage in a decent resolution.
I wonder if they did experiment with insta nerf so mutilple angle are generated on the fly on a real real-time stack
Just saw this covered on MrWhosTheBoss and I have to say this is much more my pace. I can't stand those people who try to incorporate a dance music video / comedy show into a tech unveil.
This is what the future of 3d tv should be, image projecting in the screen, not outside of the screen. I would love to watch Avatar on one of these screens.
Please make this into a normal TV thing. Like the evolution of TV and TV shows can use this tech
Looking glass+ Solid Works
7:33 - "Don't say pr0n, Don't say pr0n, Don't say pr0n, Don't say pr0n, Don't say pr0n, Don't say pr0n...."
i would like to invest into this company
Ollallaaaaaa cool technologi Merci videó cool
"What does it look like? The shape in the glass?"
I wonder what you making a portal gun would be like.
Are they going to stay at 8k as they scale up to physically larger displays? How about a 85" holographic display?
8:51 tl;dw for the interaction demo
sweet. first steps to a real holodeck!
This won't replace VR, but it might influence it's evolution.
saw right thru this thumbnail
NORM !
combine this with VR, will be insane in the future
Videogame tech becoming real faster and faster (Prey)
Make a window into 'vrchat'. That would be neat.