(Old video) V2! BUDGET Headphones TIER LIST!!! (Old list)

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2024
  • K550: amzn.to/2WWLi39
    MDR1A: amzn.to/2FkeeY0
    CAL: amzn.to/2IXiOMN
    Blue: amzn.to/2IYGvVa
    598: amzn.to/2Y1AuND
    668B: amzn.to/2IWo6bq
    SHP9500: amzn.to/2FovL1d
    takstar: amzn.to/2IWCKzC
    DT880: amzn.to/2X26MvK
    DT990: amzn.to/2FzEU7t
    KSC75: amzn.to/2J49CXg
    DT770: amzn.to/2N3ygMK
    HD650: amzn.to/2N1fSUT
    M40X: amzn.to/2Fowgs7
    QC35II: amzn.to/2Xp4LZM
    DT990 Pro: amzn.to/2FowjnN
    4XX: drop.com/buy/m...
    Argon: www.modhouseau...
    SR60e: amzn.to/2J0mQE5
    7XX: drop.com/buy/a...
    HE400i: amzn.to/2WXK2gg
    58X: drop.com/buy/m...
    Portapro: amzn.to/2JbpVBF
    Max's video: • I Call Out DMS for Ste...
    My social media:
    / dms3tv
    / dms3tv
    Snapchat @dms3tv
    IF you want to support the channel checkout the patreon! / dms3tv
    Forums: forum.hifiguid...
    HigiGuides: hifiguides.com/
    Hifiguides too (beta)l: hifiguides.com/
    If you want to join the discussion checkout our discord community: discordapp.com...

Комментарии • 467

  • @cykameister
    @cykameister 5 лет назад +234

    It looks like you're doing these off the top of your head on the spot. You also don't give a lot of explanation other than something else existing. Each placement would be a lot more compelling if you could briefly talk about why it's worse than the tier above it and better than the tier below it. The whole point of a tier list is to be able to visualize how one element performs against every other element, and I'm not convinced we're getting a well thought out picture here. You can gloss over the minute details in the video, but please finalize the list itself before making the video. A lot of us would appreciate it because we're interested in an actual buying guide. The SHP9500 placement made me chuckle, but I have no idea if you put it there as a joke or not. Hope you take this into consideration, have a nice day!

    • @shabtabq
      @shabtabq 5 лет назад +10

      Exactly, even I don't think that SHP9500 are that bad sounding, comfort wise also it cannot be called uncomfortable, and as the price goes I don't think they are very costly, they deserve better.

    • @Vracer111
      @Vracer111 5 лет назад +19

      DMS hates the SHP9500s... Zeos and Joshua Valour always get on his case about it... LOL

    • @t.7527
      @t.7527 5 лет назад +1

      @@Vracer111 Metal571 doesn't like them either. Josh and Z are.not the be all end all headphone reviewers

    • @Vracer111
      @Vracer111 5 лет назад +13

      @@t.7527 DMS and Metal571 are critical/sensitive of treble and grain while Josh and Zeos aren't so much... SHP9500 treble is a little bit unruly and its a little grainy. Still a great headphone though, especially for the price! For all 4 I have to consider their preferences and biasis, and Zeos is way too off in some of his reviews (most noticeably the absolute disaster of the Focal Clear review)... Only reviewer I can blindly trust fully so far is Bert, my preferences seem to fully align with his... sweet biodyna bass & Porta Pros... though yet to do STAX Lambda/L series review.

    • @t.7527
      @t.7527 5 лет назад

      @@Vracer111 thanks for the reply. What you said is something people need to consider when looking at these reviews of headphones....align it with your preferences. I always tell people to chase the sound signature that they desire.

  • @colonelbasic9736
    @colonelbasic9736 5 лет назад +34

    The dt770 80ohm is actually my favourite headphone for movies

  • @CarryBrahHighlightReel
    @CarryBrahHighlightReel 5 лет назад +209

    Can you do a pure sound quality and comfort tier list? Disregard the value for now.

    • @johnjohnson5896
      @johnjohnson5896 5 лет назад +27

      I agree it would be a better list if he focused on on sound quality

    • @WakeUpB2P
      @WakeUpB2P 4 года назад +2

      Probably too late but yes please do that focus ONLY on audio quality

    • @Zerviscos
      @Zerviscos 4 года назад +4

      Yea I agree. Disregard the price, primarily because a lot of people also buy hi-fi cans that are either on sale or used. I'm one of those. I would definitely not buy a bnew 58x over a used 6xx which is essentially a 650 but cheaper. It'll cost the same as a new 58x.

    • @adamhenrikson4549
      @adamhenrikson4549 4 года назад +1

      that would be very controversial. according to some people in terms of sound quality vintage stax, k1k and hd598se and some good electrets would be on top

    • @jayjaygolden5123
      @jayjaygolden5123 3 года назад +1

      i agree
      its much more useful to rate them purely by their merits and disregard the price. makes choosing less confusing, and makes the really high value options stand out
      if a and s tier are reserved for only the mpst expensive stuff and rheres suddenly a 100-300 in b tier or a tier, then thats an impressive hp

  • @Lucaat
    @Lucaat 5 лет назад +85

    D770 in F Tier? Like I can understand if someone doesnt like 1770 but 770 in F? The only headphone I never sold, they are really good at capturing tonality in the Z review sound demos. For music listening a little bright, tend to use the Sundaras for enjoyment.

    • @liquid801hlm_9
      @liquid801hlm_9 5 лет назад +16

      I think he has said in the past that he's a bit sensitive to treble which would make the 770 a bit rough to enjoy. But regardless of reasoning, it's his list and we're all just here viewing it.

    • @d0nj03
      @d0nj03 5 лет назад +3

      Then again Z's sound demos are all muffled, so they'd only sound right on otherwise unpleasantly bright headphones.

    • @davidmason8212
      @davidmason8212 5 лет назад +4

      If u talk about the 80 you are right if u talk about the 250 oh no the 770 250 is one of the worst thing i ever hear

    • @hselaxattack12
      @hselaxattack12 5 лет назад +19

      DT770 250ohm deserve that rating, if its the DT770 80ohm this is a travesty, they are excellent

    • @davidmason8212
      @davidmason8212 5 лет назад

      @LightNessITA
      Is there a big difference in sound between the modhouse argon and dt 770 80ohm ?

  • @christophergarrido2802
    @christophergarrido2802 5 лет назад +88

    I'd like to see this done disregarding price and focused on sound quality only.

    • @umair7280
      @umair7280 4 года назад +5

      part 1?

    • @mangymetal
      @mangymetal 4 года назад +1

      wtf, he puts CAL! B tier just cause the price

  • @soldierboy2350
    @soldierboy2350 5 лет назад +147

    Appreciate your effort always bro but I couldn't disagree more with so many of your placements. That's the beauty of audio though. To each their own.

    • @ryanfrancis3839
      @ryanfrancis3839 4 года назад +1

      This is a turbo troll homie

    • @gyroandhisballs
      @gyroandhisballs 4 года назад +7

      @@ryanfrancis3839 Well, hes actually completely right. On the basis of just ear shape and physics alone, what you and I hear are going to be completely different, just like how when you look at an image, the way your brain interprets colors is most likely different then the way my brain interprets the same wavelength of light. Then there's personal preference, from bass heads to treble chasers, to those who would stab you to enjoy a pure neutral experience. You can only use audio reviews to get a jist of what is absolute garbage build quality and sound signature wise (we both would be able to tell when something sounds hollow and airy vs up close and in your face), but the way your ear drums vibrate in reaction to sound waves is just inherently going to be unique exclusively to you.

    • @ryanfrancis3839
      @ryanfrancis3839 4 года назад +1

      @@gyroandhisballs awesome bro, this was so well said. Don't get me wrong, I couldn't give 2 shits about this topic. Nonetheless, fair and intellectual and knowledgeable.
      Both y'all seem like real cool dudes, cheers.

    • @alxexp
      @alxexp 3 года назад +2

      @@ryanfrancis3839 I love how you call him a “cool dude” after completely shitting on something he clearly cares about a fair amount

  • @metal571
    @metal571 5 лет назад +96

    Rank reviewers next. Could be audio could be other kinds of reviewers

  • @GeorgeWPush
    @GeorgeWPush 5 лет назад +41

    Thats so funny the SHP9500 is at bottom of list while Koss75X is at top LOL

  • @LikWeiLee
    @LikWeiLee 5 лет назад +29

    It would be interesting if you can do a video that scores the headphone solely based on its audio quality, regardless of its price. Price can vary in different regions.

  • @MrRumBacardi
    @MrRumBacardi 5 лет назад +18

    We can barely see the make and model from the size of the picture. Would be cool to either name them or edit the video with the written information.
    Thanks for the upload!!

  • @HeadphoneHangover
    @HeadphoneHangover 5 лет назад +5

    DT770 & SHP9500 in F tier?! Two headphones that in their price brackets are very hard to beat. You take price into consideration with other headphones, but not these two? Unbelievable.

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  5 лет назад

      They were hard to beat when the market was barren and empty.... a lot of better headphones have dropped in price in the past few years and those two just can’t compete anymore.

    • @HeadphoneHangover
      @HeadphoneHangover 5 лет назад +8

      @@DMS3TV I respectfully disagree. I think you're right that we've had a lot of headphones drop in price the past few years, and that certainly allowed for more competition in these price ranges (thus different recommendations), but in my opinion it doesn't take away from the fact that these headphones are still great in their price brackets. Or were, in the case of the SHP9500, which is pretty much discontinued at this point, so getting it used is even cheaper. At the end of its life cycle, it was going for around $35, which is just insane for anyone that got it at that price.

  • @heavyharmonies
    @heavyharmonies 5 лет назад +29

    Random AF.

  • @miladesn
    @miladesn 4 года назад +5

    shp9500 with oratory1990 eq sounds extremely good. If you are bothered by sibilant or whatever, definitely do that. You will need an amp though!

    • @evilmarc
      @evilmarc 2 года назад +1

      I have these and I like them (I've heard some of the other cans on the list), probably means I should disregard the ratings.

  • @johnellison3173
    @johnellison3173 5 лет назад +3

    You can get the AKG K550 mk3 for dirt cheap now that its been discontined. I would argue that this should at least be an A tier headphone. The build quality and sound are exceptional for the price.

    • @starplatinum96
      @starplatinum96 5 лет назад

      got one for 99 european dollars

    • @johnellison3173
      @johnellison3173 5 лет назад

      @@starplatinum96 I bought a second pair when they were on sale for my bedroom set-up because I was so impressed with them 👍

    • @marksafe5463
      @marksafe5463 5 лет назад

      They use to be the 553 weren’t they?

    • @johnellison3173
      @johnellison3173 5 лет назад

      @@marksafe5463 Yes. Although I dont think the 553 had a removable cable and they might have made some tweeks to the sound on the 550 mk3

    • @marksafe5463
      @marksafe5463 5 лет назад

      John Ellison yeah I looked on amazon they have 553 with removable cable that $199 and wondering if they changed the sound from the original.

  • @KareezyG
    @KareezyG 4 года назад +4

    i feel like you can stream this content and get some good conversations going with chat. Love these videos.

  • @headphonejedimaster3755
    @headphonejedimaster3755 5 лет назад +4

    Excellent video, I really enjoyed it. I respect your love for head fi.
    I have the HD650, And I used to like that sound signature a lot, but now it sounds muddy and dark and veiled, especially compared to the super fantastic clarity and crispness of the Grado RS2e. I hope you get to hear one someday

    • @Crog2
      @Crog2 5 лет назад

      Very likely your HD650 sound muddy and dark because of an old/over used pads. diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/brands-s-se/hd650/

    • @headphonejedimaster3755
      @headphonejedimaster3755 5 лет назад +1

      Igor D The pads are pretty good. my statement was probably not fair. I think if all I had was the 650, they would not sound at all this way to me, only in comparison to something like the RS2e.
      When you found something you really love, you want to tell as many people about it as you can, that’s how I feel about the RS2e, it is such a special audio experience, it is so good I feel like some of these more high profile RUclips channels are judging Grado off of one or two poor headphones and they are missing the sweet stuff. On the other hand, I guess we all like different things

    • @mchazelover
      @mchazelover 5 лет назад +1

      Grado make amazing headphones

  • @AdrianIII
    @AdrianIII 5 лет назад +6

    This goes kind of fast. Is the final list available anywhere?

  • @ChenOs
    @ChenOs 4 года назад +3

    I have both dt990 pro and the 58X. Really, I don't know what to say about this ranking. To my ears the dt990 is so much better than the 58x in every aspect. Livelier, more fun, more accurate. Just miles ahead the 58x.

    • @mikah3197
      @mikah3197 3 года назад +1

      Je pense la même chose que vous. Mais nous ne sommes pas des RUclipsrs influenceurs. Alors nos avis ne pèsent pas dans la balance. PS : Je dispose du DT 990 pro , HD 6XX et 58X

    • @ChenOs
      @ChenOs 3 года назад

      @@mikah3197 I've literally google translated :)

    • @mikah3197
      @mikah3197 3 года назад

      @@ChenOs Bonne idée :)

    • @rajeebdas1724
      @rajeebdas1724 2 года назад

      The 58x is definitely better than the 990 pro.
      The 990 pro isn't a good headphone ...
      And it's definitely not 'accurate'.

    • @ChenOs
      @ChenOs 2 года назад

      @@rajeebdas1724 if you seek for midrange only go with 58x, but if you like some treble and bass extension 990 pro is the way to go to my ears :)

  • @AvengingEnder
    @AvengingEnder 5 лет назад +5

    Hey DMS, I'm curious why you put the DT770s in F tier. To me they seem to have the least treble of the Beyers, a pretty good bass set. What's your reasoning? Also, I'd like to agree with others that value should not be a factor in these tier lists, would make it much more objective and usable.

    • @maxsettings7884
      @maxsettings7884 5 лет назад

      770 has a ton of teble. Super bloated bass, painful highs, muddy as shit, terrible mids.

    • @danboud8135
      @danboud8135 5 лет назад +2

      I don't get it either. Got the Custom Studios which are tricked out 80Ω 770s and they sound phenomenal. They actually have super detailed treble, clean bass and impressive sound stage. smh...

    • @MrBattlestar10
      @MrBattlestar10 4 года назад +1

      @@maxsettings7884 does the 80ohm version have that issue?

    • @andrewtabak4893
      @andrewtabak4893 4 года назад +1

      MrBattlestar10 I just bought the 770 80 ohm and they just got shipped. Still waiting to try them out, I’ll let you know how they are when I get them. If they are as he says then ima return them to Newegg and look for maybe the custom games(beyerdynamics) or something else.

    • @AvengingEnder
      @AvengingEnder 4 года назад +1

      @MrBattlestar10 I have the 80ohm version and I disagree with everything he said. People have different ears though, and it depends what you’re looking for. They’re actually my favorite closed headphones, and I have tried many at different price points.

  • @antoinep9733
    @antoinep9733 5 лет назад +3

    I haven’t heard many headphones myself, but you ranked the four I own in A, B or C, so I guess I’m happy. Still think the KSC75 deserves S tier. Unbeatable price to performance ratio, and reaches as low as a Porta-Pro if you put them in a headband.

    • @braedonsrantsmore2482
      @braedonsrantsmore2482 5 лет назад

      I do find koss ksc75 be good like they may not be best buited headphones but their sound is wroth it I have msr7 these replaced them

    • @braedonsrantsmore2482
      @braedonsrantsmore2482 5 лет назад +1

      Good thing about ksc75 is that if they break you can buy like 30 or more of them then you can buy one audio teachnica msr7 they may be better as wear on plane headphones beacuse they are closed back I am not sure haven't try them on plane yet but they block out decent amount of sound

  • @75matas
    @75matas 5 лет назад +24

    So whats your opinion on the sony wh1000xm3?

    • @ramon3114
      @ramon3114 5 лет назад

      Matas Armonaitis ^

    • @ayylmao8562
      @ayylmao8562 4 года назад +1

      Matas Armonaitis
      I swear we will never know, everyone considers them to be better that Bose so I guess he would think somewhat highly?
      Hype probably turns him off from talking about them

    • @adamhenrikson4549
      @adamhenrikson4549 4 года назад +2

      @@ayylmao8562 lol it's DMS we're talking about here. he literally hyped the audio gd r2r 11 and made the video hidden afterwards lmao

    • @StardustLegacyFighter
      @StardustLegacyFighter 4 года назад

      It's better than the QC35s for everything apart from a few missing features. The new XM4s improve upon everything that was missing from the XM3s, they outclass the QC35s now.

    • @StardustLegacyFighter
      @StardustLegacyFighter 4 года назад +1

      @@ayylmao8562 Nope, he called them bass boosted cans and left it at that. He is definitely biased, because he uses the QC35s everyday.

  • @Pirxel
    @Pirxel 4 года назад +5

    Another tier list YAY! Waiting for the next rounds! I'm for budget IEMs and amps first, but why not both? The "baller" category is usually bad value (as in, hundreds or thousands of dollars to get those few extra % in detail/quality/whatever) so to most of humankind it's something less relatable (still fun as entertainment, hopefully).

  • @BakinTheBiscuits
    @BakinTheBiscuits 5 лет назад +5

    I think putting Value into consideration is a poor idea as value's fluctuate based on current Used/New pricing, just food for thought.

  • @JioFreedOfOphan
    @JioFreedOfOphan 5 лет назад +1

    I called you bold in my comment for your first tier list video but when you put KSC75's next to HD650's I became Marsellus Wallace standing in a cross walk holding a box of donuts. Preferences and budget aside, you got balls, man.

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  5 лет назад

      That reference was perfect, but you know it means we end up shooting Zed in a basement.

    • @JioFreedOfOphan
      @JioFreedOfOphan 5 лет назад

      @@DMS3TV He had it coming, though. It'll be our little secret.

  • @justangvano
    @justangvano 5 лет назад +1

    Budget all the way!
    One of Andrew Jones favorite speakers he designed were his Pioneer SP line up he says because it's easy to make a pair of speakers sound good when you have an unlimited budget, but it's a challenge to make a budget pair of speakers sound good.

    • @AvengingEnder
      @AvengingEnder 5 лет назад

      Pulled the trigger on those for my home theater a couple years ago and I've loved them.

  • @aldphillip2003
    @aldphillip2003 5 лет назад +2

    Those claps at the beginning had so much energy and speed.

  • @mattrismatt
    @mattrismatt 5 лет назад +1

    The Sivga SV007s are quite impressive but require a pad swap: Brainwavz Hybrid (Oval... or XL for a larger sound-stage. For brighter sound, use Brainwavz XL Perforated Pleather. XL pads will have to be secured with rubber-bands to prevent them falling off.

  • @jnoname1534
    @jnoname1534 5 лет назад +1

    DMS - That's OK - We ALL get tired - I love your reviews - I've got 6XX's and the Cal's - getting a THX789 (one of the lucky ones whose order was accepted) - nice if you could recommend a DAC for it.

  • @SpirallingOut
    @SpirallingOut 5 лет назад +2

    Both tiers of IEMs, but definitely want to see Audeze's LCDi4 ranked so leaning more toward baller. Great video.

  • @krzysztoftrytek4211
    @krzysztoftrytek4211 2 года назад +5

    nahhh 300 dollar headphones in budget tierlist xddd

  • @randhika5636
    @randhika5636 4 года назад +4

    i still pissed that they rank audio technica above shp9500 like wtf?

  • @chunkylover5367
    @chunkylover5367 5 лет назад +9

    Wait, the last list was pretty accurate, but how are you going to do the dt-770s like that?

  • @bakakafka4428
    @bakakafka4428 5 лет назад +3

    I'd like to see the same list, but just for sound quality, and again just for comfort. Now it's not really useful I think.

  • @1badMucker
    @1badMucker 5 лет назад +4

    DMS: KSC75 gets a little irritating in the back of my ear.
    Also DMS: Has gauges in his ears.

    • @kmook76
      @kmook76 5 лет назад

      I don't have any mods and the KSC75 are quite irritating. They are also easy to break if you put them in a backpack for example.

  • @jackjack3874
    @jackjack3874 4 года назад +1

    If the 668b is in E-tier and you have incorporated price (value) in the tiering, does it mean they are the worst sounding? I am thinking about getting them. Are they worth it for music and little gaming (non-competitive)?

  • @WrecktifiedUSBB
    @WrecktifiedUSBB Год назад +1

    Those HD4xx are better sounding than everything else in B tier and should be A tier

  • @iridescentgherkin
    @iridescentgherkin 5 лет назад +2

    Why separate top tier IEMs from bottom tier? If these headphone tiers prove anything is that money has little to do with performance preference or enjoyment.
    Throw them all in together I say.

  • @shabtabq
    @shabtabq 5 лет назад +12

    Damn is KSC75 really that better than SHP9500?

  • @richburmond6761
    @richburmond6761 3 года назад +1

    Why is the shp9500 f tier?? Just very curios. Looking into buying an open back for gaming and theyre only 55 euro's right now.

  • @AdrianIII
    @AdrianIII 5 лет назад +3

    Too many variables! Haha. Would you do a set of tier lists based on sound quality alone?

  • @rehakmate
    @rehakmate 2 года назад +1

    How can you put the 880 in S but the 990 in D tier, they arent really that different?

  • @ImWanderinIf
    @ImWanderinIf 5 лет назад +1

    saying that this is a terrible list is an understatement

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  5 лет назад

      Make your own.

  • @o.f.ftrack3444
    @o.f.ftrack3444 5 лет назад +2

    Why use the hd 598 instead of the 599?
    Also, if you're using the prices of discounted products vs their original msrp, it seems like theres a few other products that could be considered more value for the money as well.

  • @Dunkelstrasse
    @Dunkelstrasse 5 лет назад

    What do you think about the Fostex T60 RPs. Do you agree witz Z, that they are Fostex answer to Argons and other mods? And do you think they can stand up to the Argons?

    • @dnalekaw4699
      @dnalekaw4699 5 лет назад +2

      They sound totally different and are not comparable. The Argons utilise new driver backing material unlike the T60rp which is essentially a stock t50 with more open baffle ports, wooden cups, and altered rear filtering material.

    • @Vracer111
      @Vracer111 5 лет назад +1

      Well there's a T60RP Argon now too...

  • @fclp67
    @fclp67 3 года назад

    So I'm buying the DT880's 600ohm (and liquid spark amp, already have the ifi zen dac) cause I bought suede dekoni pads for them (was already buying ones for my old pair of dt770s) but I assume the hd560s, HE 400i 2020 and HD58x would still be about as good a value right? I don't think I like that neutral a sound(you clearly love that, not judging but I have to keep in mind your taste when I think of my own) like the 560s have, my cans have been v-shaped (dt770, mh751) and I don't have a tube amp or really the budget for it atm. Would love to see a comparison between those 4 open cans I mentioned and call it THE KING OF BUDGET or something like that xD or maybe just a revamp of this list since many budget cans came out since then. Have a nice day! :-)

  • @younisramos259
    @younisramos259 5 лет назад

    hit the like button before even watching love this series keep up the good stuff :)

  • @brandonkey181
    @brandonkey181 3 года назад +1

    Curious, why do you rate the DT770s so low? They can't be THAT bad

  • @taimoorahmedchattha2969
    @taimoorahmedchattha2969 5 лет назад +3

    Budget iems
    Both budget and baller amps
    Please do dac/amp combos too

  • @straight_edge_5139
    @straight_edge_5139 4 года назад

    Thanks man this might have been the most helpful insightful video out ther

  • @thestig301
    @thestig301 5 лет назад

    Why did you not use the newer Version of MDR1A the MDR 1AM2? And which category should be this in?

  • @gabrielgavril3435
    @gabrielgavril3435 Год назад

    I agree with the Koss ksc75, but not with the Philips shp9500, also... Instead of the superlux HD 668, should be the HD681

  • @skyanakinwalker
    @skyanakinwalker 5 лет назад +2

    $100 and under iems, Then $300 - $101 iems with the s tier from the under $100 competing with the under $300-$101 tier

  • @Feenicks30
    @Feenicks30 5 лет назад

    Can we get a review of the CAL? I'm thinking about getting it as a closed back to accompany my 58x jubilee? Can't decide between the CAL or the dt770 :/

  • @trellusg
    @trellusg 5 лет назад +6

    Lol @ “they all sound the same” (Grado’s) 😂😂😂

    • @jopar3292
      @jopar3292 5 лет назад +5

      What a profoundly unqualified set of ears for a reviewer ?!?

  • @Ben-bs4od
    @Ben-bs4od 2 года назад

    Love this tier list because it's budget headphones and we're in a great depression. But can you do one with best comfort? With only the comfort rated in compared to the sound and the price. Because if it isn't comfortable what the hell is the point of buying them for us poor people. We can't own pairs just for the sound. Sound is almost second to me after comfort. I make a tier list of comfort ie. .7 or less head clamping. And then buy the best sounding ones of the 5 that make the list. Disregarding comfort is just INSANE. Beyerdynamic. Sorry. Wouldn't wear one if you gave me them for free. Clamp force is INSANE!!!! Glad you put DT770 dead last.

  • @8lec_R
    @8lec_R 4 года назад

    Question: why do you not like the superlux?
    Curious, cuz I own a pair and love them for the price. I'm new to audio btw

  • @KojiCO-ConvinceM
    @KojiCO-ConvinceM 5 лет назад +1

    KSE75 should not be possible,but they are here and man they kick some ass for the price,
    QC335 think got to be the most comfortable things u can put around your ears unless your face down on a broad,
    IEM full blone shootout should be good first

  • @rayhanakram9912
    @rayhanakram9912 4 года назад +1

    OK but why are DT770s at the bottom?

  • @kmook76
    @kmook76 5 лет назад +1

    What's the difference between the 6xx and the 650? I thought they were basically the same headphone.

    • @SteveRyder
      @SteveRyder 4 года назад +1

      kmook76 he says 650 isn’t S tier solely because it costs too much. 6xx is exactly the same headphone but costs less. Puts in very low tier. Makes no sense.

  • @nathanberger618
    @nathanberger618 5 лет назад +4

    For amps, baller amps only, for IEMs make two video like you did for headphones.

  • @veikkomultivitamiini4858
    @veikkomultivitamiini4858 5 лет назад

    Have you tried the t60rp yet? would love hear what you think about them

  • @Thanatos2996
    @Thanatos2996 2 года назад

    DT770s in F? I also have Hifiman X4 (basically identical to the 4XX) for reference, and the DT770 80Ω doesn't sound any worse to me.

  • @octagest
    @octagest 5 лет назад +2

    Why did you put the 770s in F tier?

  • @heebbi
    @heebbi 4 года назад

    So... the hd650s are better than argons?

  • @aidanfriedfeld8889
    @aidanfriedfeld8889 5 лет назад

    I like the list as a way to maybe find headphones I haven’t bought yet and should consider but man you basically put my fav headphones pretty far down. I love the k7xx and the HE4xx (ik you put it in B tier but for me it’s strong A tier). Also ik they aren’t in production so they don’t count but pre lambda stax and koss electrostatics aren’t very expensive and blow a lot of things out of the water so that’s my S tier.

  • @andreasschwarz4908
    @andreasschwarz4908 3 года назад

    "6XX" at 3:43 is the Massdrop K7XX for anyone wondering

  • @soundknight
    @soundknight 3 года назад

    You can take the KSC cans and put them on your porta pro head band + other pp mods work too.

  • @Frank_P83
    @Frank_P83 11 месяцев назад

    Would like to have your review and comparison on the Samson SR850 please

  • @chrisb9726
    @chrisb9726 5 лет назад +1

    Did you say "6xx" when you meant "7xx"? Because those look like the 7xx, not any Sennheisers (especially not the 6xx), and you have the 7xx linked in the description whereas the 6xx is missing.
    Also, would you say, functionally, the 6xx and the 650s are interchangeable? That's what I've heard almost every reviewer say. Trying to figure out which Senns I'm getting in the future.

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  5 лет назад

      I meant 7XX
      6XX and 650 are SUPER close. Only different by a couple DB in the FR.

    • @TuTran-kr2yk
      @TuTran-kr2yk 4 года назад

      yeah man I was shocked when he said 6XX E tier lol

  • @AftermathXJ220
    @AftermathXJ220 2 года назад

    Called the 7XX "6XX", I was confused because the picture looked like an AKG headphone, then I figured it out once I've looked at the description & headphone list.

  • @jacksonlaframboise6257
    @jacksonlaframboise6257 3 года назад

    Ight. I got the 559’s. And I recently got the sundaras. Here’s my take on the 559’s. Long term. With contrast. They are actually pretty ight. But my god are they boring. The resolution is ok. But meh. They are kinda similar in profile to the sundaras actually. The difference being, less resolution, less sub frequencies and harsher highs. However, the soundstage is ridiculous for the price. Amps do cool things to em. The final thing is, using em with sundaras for mixing is actually cheat codes…..everything sounds nice on sundaras. Even 3.4khz. So like, I use the sundaras for fitting everything in a mix. The deficits are obvious. Than I switch over to the 559’s and make it sounds good in those with compression and stuff. Than back to the sundaras for a final check of the compression levels and boom. The 559’s are honest bois. The sundaras are so resolving in contrast, you can hear over saturation on an ambient noise happening in the background, as loud as a cat yawning, sharing a frequency band with the main vocal. It’s disgusting.

  • @davidmason8212
    @davidmason8212 5 лет назад

    Can you specify the pads of the argons ?
    Which one sounds the best ?

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  5 лет назад +1

      depends on what you're after. Protein pads offer the biggest sound stage and have more of the "classic" argon sound with a bit of a treble peak. Lambskins have a little less staging but offer smoother treble. Eikon pads are more intimate with vocals. ZMF microsuede makes them SUPER dark/warm and tubey sounding.

    • @davidmason8212
      @davidmason8212 5 лет назад

      @@DMS3TV thanks dms so what is your personal preference??

  • @pdraggy
    @pdraggy 4 года назад

    Have you tried the monster ntunes for 40 bucks you can't go wrong.... I'd like to hear how much you agree with me?

    • @dannybos7024
      @dannybos7024 4 года назад

      That is the most cheap looking headphone I've seen in a long time. Why would he ever review that?

    • @pdraggy
      @pdraggy 4 года назад

      ​@@dannybos7024 that's cuz it IS cheap duh. I'd rather have a 40 dollar headphones that looks cheap and feels great (I like light feeling cans) rather than one that sounds like talking through a box. Anyway how is Creative Labs Aurvana not look cheap and these do? Their 40 bucks they are gonna look like plastic throw up either way (imo Ntunes don't look like that as they are MEANT to be thin- being over ear not around ear- but I'll give you the benefit)

    • @dannybos7024
      @dannybos7024 4 года назад +1

      @@pdraggy I don't see how you can look at the Ntunes and be like; yeah, that's worth 40 dollars. I'd rather just spend more and get an actual good headphone.

    • @pdraggy
      @pdraggy 4 года назад

      @@dannybos7024 have you heard them? I'm satisfied as is anybody I've talked to that gives them a try. I'd not heard the Aurvana's they seem to be others top choice in the sub $50 sector, so I'm curious might pick them up. I mean maybe I just like the low muddled bass sound (compared to my grados WOAH what a difference and my hearing sucks) but out of my DOZENS of earphones in the 100-200 range these are up there (regardless of looks). I can purchase CALs myself (and I probably will) BUT I still want to find a review from a more discerning ear.
      IMO none of these big earphone win awards for looks anyway lol but some (like my Beyer DT910s) look like they been hit by an ugly stick!
      images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/413bx%2BG2orL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg

    • @pdraggy
      @pdraggy 4 года назад

      @@dannybos7024 I took the plunge and after letting the Aurvana's play over night the do not COMPARE with my old Ntunes. Tested on just a random song (Final Fantasy song lol) on my playlist using this laptop, I'll try other genres and amped/ DAC and so on but I'm pretty sure the results will be the same.
      I mean, the CALs may have slightly better audio precision like studio headphones but I just like a loud bumpin bass tone and Ntunes never fail (well against my HD599s and Amp/DAC they come a little short BUT for most occasions). Still would love to hear a real audio nerd's opinion.

  • @josephnevin
    @josephnevin 3 года назад +1

    Is it safe to assume that DMS despise headphones with sibilant highs?

  • @IsaacRifkin
    @IsaacRifkin 5 лет назад +2

    *THWOCK* *THWOCK* *THWOCK*
    continues building tier list
    *THWOCK* *THWOCK* *THWOCK*

    • @zynix27
      @zynix27 4 года назад

      Is my hearing bad or is that the sound of slamming the mouse? If yes, that's mighty annoying.

  • @MickDrivesCars
    @MickDrivesCars 5 лет назад +1

    budget iems please

  • @SuperMogwai78
    @SuperMogwai78 4 года назад

    sorry, but...what's the first in the S tier ??

  • @NiSHAN256
    @NiSHAN256 5 лет назад

    Is it too much to ask for both ?

  • @zachjaybseazer94
    @zachjaybseazer94 5 лет назад +1

    I find Argons to be a bit veiled in the upper midrange and treble, yet it also is a bit shrill around 10khz. I'm trying to figure out a good eq for the, any suggestions would be appreciated. After hearing the Tin T2's the treble on the argon sounds so much less precise and detailed

    • @dnalekaw4699
      @dnalekaw4699 5 лет назад

      I absolutely agree, the argons were a big disappointment for me

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  5 лет назад

      What pads? THe ZMF microsuede makes them darker in treble but brings out the midrange.

  • @kvarley87
    @kvarley87 5 лет назад +10

    you said 6xx but those look like 7xx

    • @andtothewestamerica
      @andtothewestamerica 5 лет назад +4

      He must have just misspoken because the 6xx are the same as hd650 (which are his favorite).

    • @izanagi61
      @izanagi61 4 года назад

      @@andtothewestamerica yea i was just about to say, i have to look at the icon again. I certainly hope he is not rating the 650 and the 6xx seperately

  • @matusjurcik6974
    @matusjurcik6974 4 года назад

    All you care about is just frequency response. There are many other things like details, sound separation, soundstage, imaging

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  4 года назад

      You seem to have no idea what I care about...

    • @matusjurcik6974
      @matusjurcik6974 4 года назад

      @@DMS3TV I'll ask it differently. Have you ever heard the dt 770 80ohm version? They are nothing like 250ohm. If you heard them you have to admit they have great sound separation, details, imaging, soundstage(for close backs) and suppressed all the disadvantages of closed headphones like boxy sound ... far better than m40x. Different tonality is like different spice for your music, driver abilities are much more important. You need to review also m60x :D

  • @EdwarioERS
    @EdwarioERS 5 лет назад +1

    I don't see any critical reviews for the DT 770 on this channel.

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  5 лет назад +1

      I'm planning to re-do it. Wasn't happy with the quality so I removed it.

    • @HERONSMusic
      @HERONSMusic 4 года назад

      @@DMS3TV It's 1 year and I'm still waiting

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  4 года назад

      @@HERONSMusic a lot of things have taken higher priority, and no one has offered to send in a DT770.

  • @land_walker
    @land_walker 5 лет назад

    I am surprised that the m1060 or the m1060c didn't make any list yet. Maybe a list of the best modded headphones at some point?

  • @gigihanmandarin
    @gigihanmandarin 5 лет назад +1

    ✍️ Note : Don't start an IEM tier list before you hear Tin P1.

    • @gigihanmandarin
      @gigihanmandarin 5 лет назад

      Z amazed by it. Hawaii BadGuy didn't know how to not hype it up.

    • @maxcostco
      @maxcostco 5 лет назад

      P1 is getting alot of love but I'm gonna throw my hat in for the ER2SE

  • @ehkruse1
    @ehkruse1 5 лет назад +4

    In my opinion, Ksc75 and portapro are the solid standard for c tier. The Sennheiser lineup doesn't go above b or below d. I would put most hifimans under 1000 in c, with the Sundara as the exception, being A tier. Dt770 pro is a B. The other Beyer's I've owned are c and below.

  • @ElvenSpellmaker
    @ElvenSpellmaker 4 года назад

    Why so much hate for the DT770? And why 880 over 990?

  • @hey-lo-gees3886
    @hey-lo-gees3886 4 года назад +1

    Shp how are they f bro please explain? 🤔 Please??

  • @Quetzalcoatl0
    @Quetzalcoatl0 4 года назад

    So why are the dt 770 an F? i was planning to buy those, and they are recommended in the hifi guide ?

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  4 года назад +2

      It’s only good if you REALLY love bass. It’s a headphone recommended for bass canons.

  • @francismcalister7811
    @francismcalister7811 3 года назад +1

    To my knowledge there is no difference between a dt990 pro and dt990 edition, this looks like a rushed mess of a ranking based on factors I don't understand

  • @kenshinesca
    @kenshinesca 5 лет назад +5

    To me budget is under 100.00

  • @808jspekeg6
    @808jspekeg6 5 лет назад +3

    Finally sold me on the argon.

  • @Minon157
    @Minon157 5 лет назад

    Do budget tiers please. If you have any chance to buy an Andromeda you probably know what you are doing. A budget tier is more useful to help people decide what to get.

  • @gregburdick2884
    @gregburdick2884 5 лет назад +1

    Budget vote here for both IEM and Amps

  • @v.i.l.o.
    @v.i.l.o. 5 лет назад

    Headphones for classical music?

  • @gappu666
    @gappu666 5 лет назад

    HD6XX in tier E?? Should it not be A tier as it is 650? And with better value than 650, should be tier above 650 ;)

  • @stubskututstuy
    @stubskututstuy 4 года назад

    Tier list for 2020? Please include a koss kph30i too! Subbed!

  • @cursedvoid
    @cursedvoid 5 лет назад

    Will the IEM section include earbuds too?

  • @Frizzyy
    @Frizzyy Год назад +1

    what is wrong with dt 770s ? , ive only heard good things

    • @dvdr866
      @dvdr866 Год назад

      Yeah I Dont know why its in F teir Not bad compared to dt880

    • @Frizzyy
      @Frizzyy Год назад

      @@dvdr866 prefer DT 880 due to more neutral bass but both are nice

  • @ordjk4797
    @ordjk4797 5 лет назад

    I recommend that if you do another one of these tier lists, that you should (in the description) put the headphone links in order of their respective tier. pls.

  • @TokyoNinja1467
    @TokyoNinja1467 5 лет назад

    This was like watching a child scribble on a wall with crayons, meaningless and confusing.