more people should be talking about Jamie!
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I agree with everything- the teacher also makes me cringe every time she’s about. I can’t understand her character at all. But the rest I loved. The videotape made me cry, it was such a beautiful moment. I really wish this film could have been released in cinemas, it deserves a bigger audience!
I was able to see it in a local indie theater and was the only one there. :(
richard e grant: here’s a devastating video about how aids killed my boyfriend!
jamie: [shaking] i just wanted a dress
I feel like 'this was me' needs to be integrated into future productions of 'Jamie' it's sublime.
I personally really liked the function the teacher plays, she's someone who's homophobic but would never acknowledge it to herself or anyone else. Jamie pushes her buttons in very specific ways and I think she thinks it's her mission to take him down a few pegs and doesn't see her responsibility to acknowledge the specific ways in which queer kids need to be kept safe. She very pointedly ignores the homophobic slurs towards Jamie and racism directed at Pritti, instead treating her as some kind of pet project. I've seen so many of those teachers so I thought it was subtle but powerful how low key her antagonism is. Side note, why is a teacher in a low income public school who works on her feet all day wearing (imitation?) Jimmy choos??
I agree! I think Miss Hedge is an accurate portrayal of passive bigotry - someone who doesn't think of themselves as bigoted because they don't use slurs and are not actively hostile, but who still enables bigotry and oppression by not standing up to it and who probably thinks that marginalised people "bring it on themselves" by being different and shouldn't get "special treatment". The kind of person who'd say "I don't care what you to do, as long as you don't do it around me". And she's an accurate portrayal of how, when people like that are called out on their behaviour, they will often double down and become more hard-line bigoted rather than do any self-reflection.
As for the Jimmy Choos, I have the published libretto and it refers to them in the stage directions as "a grace note of fabulousness". Miss Hedge is a repressed and unsatisfied person - she had dreams for herself too, once, but they clearly never worked out, and she takes her bitterness out on the kids by drumming it into them that their lives are probably going to suck. That's why Jamie gets under her skin - because he refuses to compromise on who he is or lower his expectations, and she resents him for that. But the Jimmy Choos are a way of showing that she still stubbornly wants to express herself somehow, and that's the spark of humanity in her that Jamie might be able to reach.
@@beardedartisan ooh now I love that detail!
I liked the stage musical a lot but the movie hits different, in the most positive way possible. Hugo is my favourite character in both and I was a tad bit sad for not having The legend of Loco Chanel in the movie but damn what they did instead was strong! Maybe one of the best pieces of musical cinema made in a long time!
Why Amazon Prime chose to advertise that dreadfull Cinderella instead of Jamie is a mystery to me. Cinderella almost made me hate myself for loving musicals, Jamie on the other hand is a perfect example of a musical movie I could see everytime.
This movie was so well done! It’s been a long time since I’ve seen such a good adaptation
I hate that the advertising for that waste of a cinderella movie drowned this movie out, they still advertise the cinderella movie on amazon prime now whilst quietly releasing Jamie (and the Green Knight) in the UK then saying nothing
I loved the nod to John playing young Loco, but I was gutted to hear that the original west end cast weren't invited to the premiere :(
As a trans woman, wow did this movie mean a lot to me. I know Jamie isn’t trans, but growing up we shared so many experiences. It may be the very first time that I’ve felt as if I was watching myself before I came out as trans. This film is just beautiful, and Max Harwood, Richard E. Grant, and Sarah Lancashire give it a true beating heart. Loved your review. 💕
I'm glad you're covering Jamie! 👏
Deifnitely agreed that more people should be talking about that spectacular movie 💖🥰
EVERYBODY should be talking about Jamie. I just got into it over the summer and I have no regrets.
one of my favourite parts was also the flashback moments, like i legit cried. everyone did such i good job, i loved it
My mum's watching it right now and I know she's going to bawl at the 80s bit. I thought it was so well done, and totally agree on the songs being like music videos. I think often musical adaptations are weird because they don't have a clear direction/style for the songs. He's My Boy is one of my favourite ballads in musical theatre, and I'm not sad they cut If I Met Myself Again. I loved all the cameos, and also didn't spot John until the last second! Actual Jamie's mum is in it for a second too. Those are my random thoughts, but I loved it and am so relieved since I actually love the stage show!
As a Sheffield native this was so exciting! Also seen it 3 times already 😅 my favourite bit is when Jamie says to Dean “yeah Dean, cos I am gay, and I am queer…” but hated the R slur in the stage show, v glad they took that out! Loved the whole film 💙
Oh god, the R slur made me so uncomfortable, I was so glad they took it out.
Ah I was holding my breath praying they wouldn't say it because it would make me not be able to like it (I'm disabled) and I was so glad they didn't
I saw the stage show the other day and they've taken out the R slur in that too, which is good 😁
@@siobhanthebookworm oh good
I'm probably one of the biggest drag fans on earth and love the history of drag but like you I just was not that big on the original stage show. I was intrigued about the movie though and watched it the first day it was on Prime. The stage show might not but the movie definitely will go down as a must watch for Queer youth imo going forward. "This Was Me" has me in tears. It was a great message towards all the kids that want to do drag but have no clue why drag is done or where it stems from. It's counter culture and an act of rebellion. It was just a really good movie.
No one around me has watched or listened to the show so I’m so happy someone is talking about it. 🥲
I totally agree that this has been the best movie musical in awhile because overall everything was cut/added very nicely (you cant add a rap thinking it will always work ughh). I loved how This Was Me to me really changed my view of the theme of the whole show. It’s so much more than just Jamie fulfilling his dream as a drag queen. That scene was so jaw dropping and hit me so hard the first time. One of the few movies I keep rewatching. 👏🏻🥺
I am so glad someone is finally talking about this movie, this is probably my fav movie musical adaptation yet and it makes me sad I never see anyone talking about it or agreeing with me. Def one of my new comfort movies!!
Sorry to be that person but the first song with the teacher's rap that you don't like is Don't Even Know It not Everybody's Talking About Jamie. That comes after Jamie has done his show. But great review otherwise
I finally watched the movie and you're so right about the teacher! I woke up the next day fuming because she pissed me off so much. I've realized that people who are openly homophobic bother me less than folks who will hide behind rules and other people's bigotry to excuse their bullying.
I loved the movie! I feel like my critiques are very nitpicky. Like I didn’t understand why Jamie and Pritti didn’t sit together in class and I didn’t like that Pritty took Jamies shoes out of his bag in the cafeteria as that felt like an invasion of privacy, but those don’t matter that much on the scale of the story
it's likely they had some kind of a seating plan in the class as a lot of UK schools do that, esp in year 11 as that's exam year and the teachers don't want you messing around with your friends instead of working.
@@leilanyx I can see that being the case, however, other friends were clearly sitting next to each other and distracting each other where I’m not sure if Pritti would let herself be distracted in class or at least not as much as others were distracting each other
@@ForTheLoveOfMusicals sometimes we need that push to truly show ourselves. When Pritti pulled his shoes out, that was her way nudging Jamie to do it - to be all he is
Really proud of Max Harwood playing the role. Minor claim to fame (though not really on my part) I've shared the stage with him. He was Sonny in a production of Grease a few years ago. I played Eugene in that production :)
I still cant believe they cut if i met myself again. The song always made me cry and was in my opponent the best song and performance in the musical.
I loved work of art 😭😭😭
Me too. That was one of my favorite parts
I really enjoyed the film. The 80's segment took me right back - I hit the drag clubs in the North back then. Also as a mother, 'He's my Boy' really resonated. Lovely positive video as usual Amy! 🥰
i love the stage show so much and the movie is probably one of the best movie musicals i've ever seen!! i wish they kept the mum's first song in though, i knew the legend of loco chanel had been cut from the film too but i had no idea they replaced it with a new song and oh my days. i was bawling my eyes out i wasn't expecting it at all and it was such an amazing way of showing lgbtq history
I really loved it. Great adaptation.
yeeeeeeeeeeeees amyyyy! i watched the film on a whim bc i truly don't like the stage musical (i thought the set design was so bland and the plot some rehashed blabla we've seen a thousand of times) and i was sooo surprised! THE EDITING IN THAT MUSICAL IS EVERYTHING! the cuts are on the beat, the chorus-lines are wide-shots, it works with frame-ratio, moving so smoothly between dream-sequences and reality, and not to mention how it actually emphasises the gorgeous choreography instead of suffocating it. ugh so good. everything modern musical-films fuck up, it's doing correctly. like, i was so ready to hate on the film and then "you dont even know it" started and??? i just sat there like :o damn. guess i gotta like this now?
I thought you’d have more to say about it 😅 I really loved all the little changes and adjustments that they made. Like Jamie working to save up to buy the dress or Pritti going with him to the drag shop. A lot of really good writing/directing choices ^_^
Seems a very nice adaptation, I'm not familiar with the stage musical, but I'll give it a try 💙
I absolutely loved the movie! I laughed, cried and smiled so much. Really want to see the stage show!
I watched the movie for the first time yesterday, without having seen the show (I've watched it immediately afterwards) and I absolutely loved it. Max and Lauren were absolutely incredible as Jamie and Pritti, the flashback scenes were such a brilliant addition and Margaret New might be a new favourite character! I agree with everyone in the comments about hating Miss Hedge because she's a passive homophobe, but I think Sharon Horgan did a brilliant job of making her sinister. I feel in the show, she is slightly too comical, whereas the characterisation in the movie made me really hate her.
Yay! Thanks for uploading this one. :) I loved the show, and Max was amazing, I hope he gets a lot more work. Sarah was awesome too, Im not really familiar with her work, being a United Statsian.
The friendship between Jamie and Pretti reminds me a lot of me and my friend. I had helped encourage him to start dressing (not in drag per se, but as a gender-noncomfirming person) in public like he wanted to, so it felt personal to me.
I was alright with the changes. And loved the 80s video. But, I do wish they would have at least put "Loca Chanel" over the end credits.
Thanks for ur review Amy!!
Yess! I've been waiting for this!
I'm going to see the musical tonight and I'm so excited! 😁
Now I'll definitely check it out, because one can't bee too conscious when it comes to movie-musical adaptations!!!
I’m trying to get really deep into what you’re saying but KITTY KITTY AMY’S KITTY!!!!!!
Thanks. Didn’t know about this musical. Will you be reviewing Tick, tick… Boom! when it comes out on Netflix next week?
Have you ever seen the movie CAMP? I’d love to see you review it! It’s so underrated and was before it’s time really, about a group of kids at a theatre camp.
I have seen the movie but not the stage show. I really enjoyed the film.
THAT WAT IVE BEEN SAYING. Omg I’m so happy to see this movie get more attention
unrelated but i love your duvet cover
Love both the show and the movie!
What do you think of the film trying to redeem Jamie's dad? Honestly, I really wasn't a fan of that bit but I get why they tried
You convinced me to watch it now, good job :D
omg i'm definitely replacing the original version of And You Don't Even Know It with the film one on my spotify, i hate the teacher/class part too 😂
Amy! I don’t know if anyone has said this, but like you please talk about how Ariana Grande’s fans are hating on Taylor Louderman? Taylor is getting hate because she’s upset she didn’t get cast as Glinda in the new “Wicked” movie.
Love the movie musical! As a fellow Geordie, I’m still gutted that it’s not in a geordie accent considering the real Jamie is from Durham!! But still love the show
I agree about the teacher rap🤢 the schoolkids bit before that was also v cringe, but I think that was the point. I didnt think it was supposed to be sexualising kids just showing how much they put on an act and the kind of people they're trying to be. This also shows how Jamie stands out bc the other boys are so obnoxious and see themselves as hypermasculine. I frantically skip that bit every time I listen to the soundtrack though.
PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO ON THE NEW WESTEND CAST OF SIX!!!
It’s so good I cried multiple times
I saw the show the day before the film came out and I definitely prefer the show but the film is still incredible. When I listened to the soundtrack for the film before the film was released, i didn’t like the fact that legend of loco channel had been taken out and I didn’t like it’s replacement, however in the actual film with context to what the song is about, I started to love the song this was me, especially once I realised that John played young Hugo after like the third time watching the film. I much prefer the stage version of work of art, as I believe the way the song is directed is a lot better and the climax of the song not being in the film version made it feel as tho that breaking point moment was just missing from the film. I do like the fact that the stuff with like the dick gon swing and the teachers part had been cut and I definitely agree with it for a film adaptation, however the transition cutting those verses out just felt forced and it would’ve been a lot better if an new verse to the song had been added in that gap. I prefer the music in the stage production purely because I feel many of the songs became a bit too electrified if u know what I mean for the film, whereas in the songs for the original stage version you could tell that they were less edited and you could hear the individual instruments more. I love the sets for the film and the locations they chose and I believe it is a huge improvement to the production, however I do still love the set for the show just because of how they utilise the structure for it. I met myself again was the only song that got a standing applause mid-show when i saw the show on tour and I think it should’ve been included in the film with a style of storytelling like in this was me, similar to how it is shown in the stage production. I think the casting choice could not have been better for the film especially with max as Jamie and John being included in the cast, and as far as I prefer John as Jamie from watching the bootleg of the show I think that max is good at taking the character for Jamie that John created in his performance as him and pressing down how exaggerated he was for a film audience and making Jamie slightly more mature for the differences in the storyline and I love how they cast shobna gulati who played ray in the cast for the stage version to play ray in the film as no one in my eyes could’ve caught rays character and the way she acts with the story. Overall I think it’d a fucking good film and a fucking good show and both tellings of the story are pretty much perfect. Also I love the way BBC totally coincidentally decided to put the drag queen at 16 documentary on iPlayer right after the film came out.
Such a shame that the film doesn't seem to be getting the widespread attention it deserves! Let's hope it becomes a cult classic
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I enjoyed the movie well enough. However, I feel like it was incomplete, especially after listening to the West End recording. Kind of reminded me of Billy Elliott and the Prom mixed together… and watered down.
I am infinitely glad that they didn't say the r slur in the movie adaptation
I’m going to watch it on stage soon
It was a fine film but I don't remember any of the music.
omg yess the teacher is cringe!! sharon hogan made her less cringe but still 😅
I thought you had a tail at the beginning and realised it was Eugene... besides that I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would; I did like Pritti at the end though :)
Hi ilysm
Will it be out on dvd?
Amy: I like everybody’s talking about Jamie but I wouldn’t listen to it because of the fact but
Me: THATS AND YOU DONT EVEN KNOW IT MY SOUL HURTS
I loved the film, but the aids subplot felt a bit forced like “they were gay! So they had aids!” Which I didn’t love but idk.
You can’t tell a story about drag world London in the 80s and NOT talk about AIDS. It was a huge backdrop to everything else that happened.
Maybe it's because I'm not British, but I absolutely hated this movie 💀😂😭 (Also, the "representation" to me was really cringey and stereotypical) I dunno, I think it's because this movie was so clearly one-dimensional, in my humble opinion, as someone who has done drag, like why does Jamie, the drag queen, have to be presented as someone who appears to be so bitchy? And omg I highly doubt the Muslim girl would have been as supportive as was shown. Like my ex-boyfriend is alergian, and he would tell me how him and his mom left Isalm because their family renounced them because he came out as bisexual. So in defiance as part of leaving, his mom also took off her hijab. I dunno, again I just feel like this movie is stereotypical and not nuanced and very uncomfortably British.
(What I said may make feel people feel a certain type of way, which I totally understand! But just because it's different, doesn't mean these life experiences are any less valid)
I don't think it's a very good musical for similar reasons as yourself (it just feels very "How do you do, fellow kids?" and also feels like a less nuanced, more one-dimensional riff on Billy Elliot but going all the way by actually making the protagonist gay) but I do take issue with your framing of the Muslim girl not likely being accepting of Jamie. I know plenty of Muslim people in Britain, especially of younger generations, who have no problem with gay people. Most religions are anti-gay and while followers of Islam are maybe more likely to be homophobic, that does not mean all of them will be, especially not when they're living in a more progressive and accepting place like the UK and have grown up there.
@@juicybutterriblydrab Yes exactly! And fair enough! Again, that's one experience and what you've said is 100% valid! I suppose a part of it personally for me is that, even apart of the gay thing, is what annoys me is that when someone says that they're"Christian" "Muslim" "Jewish" "Buddhist" "Hindu" heck even atheists, that because of this they are a good person. And it's like...omg what no? You're a good person because you are one, not because of a belief or lack thereof you have. If that makes sense? And I suppose it goes back to Jamie that annoys me because you can also be gay and be a shitty person (James Charles) Or bisexual (Shane Dawson) or non-binary (Jeffery Star) - Omg the anti-trinity hahahaha - Okay no but seriously, I want more gay stories where they feel more fleshed out or a romance story between two guys or girls that has absolutely nothing to do with coming out or even accepting themselves (Like imagine a story where straight people had to accept their straightness before getting together with someone??? It actually sounds ridiculous and hilarious hahahaha) Like also, drag race exists where we get to see a colorful array of individuals with different personalities than whatever the f*ck Jamie tried to do 🥴
@@juicybutterriblydrab I agree with that. I’m American, so I can’t necessarily speak on the British Muslim population, but in US statistics, Pew research in 2017 showed that slightly over half of Muslims in the US think homosexuality should be accepted. And in my personal experience, most of the Muslims I’ve met have been supportive of the LGBT community. It’s awful that OP’s ex had to go through that experience of being rejected by his community. And a lot of Muslims are homophobic, don’t get me wrong! But there are also a lot that are not.
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