My grandfather passed away years ago and left an atlas lathe in our shop. It was taken apart and just sat for years, 2 years ago when I moved back home I managed to get it back in working order. Since that time I have found your videos to be extremely helpful, I have learned a lot and must thank you for helping me to reconnect with my past. I miss the old days when I would sit and watch him use the lathe for a lot of different projects... 2 weeks ago I finally found the change gears, after watching your videos I know immediately what they were, it almost brought me to tears learning they had not been lost. I can't thank you enough...
Just got my first lathe yesterday. Thank goodness for this video, it solved my problem. Been a long time coming as I’ve watched this channel a long time. A ‘68 QC54. It looks like it hasn’t ever been used because the ways and the undersides of the carriage and cross slide look new. The original owner crashed the carriage right after buying it I guess and broke the cross slide gear. The guy I bought it from never put it back together but replaced the gear. When I went to see it he couldn’t get the cross slide to automatically travel. Today I took it apart and found he put in a cross slide gear that wasn’t keyed. This video was what I needed to see. What an easy fix as my neighbor offered to key it with his Amco shaper. Thanks the lord for Mr. Pete.
You are a truly gifted teacher. Your generous spirit in sharing your immense knowledge/professionalism/and work ethics is a gift for the coming generations, I thank you and envy your rich legacy.
I had a friend use my QC54 and when I went to work on the lathe again, I found the power cross feed inop. I wasn’t sure what was under the apron so I’m very thankful to have found your video. Commencing disassembly …
Most excellent Mr. Pete. I bet the kids in your classes learned a lot whether they wanted to or not. You are a superb teacher. And you obviously know your onions. I really enjoy your videos.
Great. I've watched almost 250 of your videos so far and have been curious about this exact subject, particularly how the power crossfeed works. Thanks!
Great walk through Mr. Pete. Don't worry about too much detail with me. You could have completely disassembled and reassembled and I would have watched it all the way through! Thanks for taking the time and energy to share. So, are the shaper and casting videos still in the works? Joe
One of the things I really enjoy about your videos is your precise enunciation. It probably results from your career as a teacher. So many RUclips videos have mumbling narrators, requiring rewinding a few seconds to make out what they said. Thanks for your efforts!
One of the first pieces of shop equipment I bought was a power solvent tank system for washing parts. Super video, as always. I am 70 and I was able to watch right to the end.
I first watched this video 5 years ago and found it very interesting. A few weeks ago I found an atlas QC54 10" lathe and was able to purchase it. The ways are in perfect condition, no nicks or dings at all. I need to make an oil dauber for the tail stock, I will refer to your video on that project. The only part that is broken is the plunge control that engages the power to the cross feed. The casting broke at the point where the pin is inserted to hold it on the shaft. I was able to one on Ebay and it is on its way. The detailed look at the apron is very helpful and lets me know what I am getting myself into while replacing the control. You are by far one of my favorite channels on youtube and I have watched many hours of your content. Thank you for dedication, inspiration, and education... I will put it to good use.
Excellent video Mr. Pete! Very informative and particularly applicable to me since my Craftsman 12" is very close to a twin of yours. (Exactly the same, but slightly different half nut lever.) Don't worry about video length, the longer the better; my attention span equals the length of your demonstrations!
Enjoy all your videos! Never feel you are too detailed in your demonstrations. I am sure all the atlas/craftsman owners like myself and most other lathe owners included were glued to your demo on this and all your machine disassembles and cut-a-ways. In fact I know myself I go back and watch over sometimes a few times just to know what is going on while using my machine. I've always been one of those guys that would read and research first on how it works rather than just going to the trouble shooting section of the book first. That is how I would trouble shoot all the electrical and hydraulic repair I've done on heavy equipment all my life, and it's worked best for me. And just for laughs and some good comments from my coworkers when things got on edge, I would tell them "LOVE YOUR JOB AND YOU'LL NEVER WORK A DAY IN YOUR LIFE" ! Thanks, Ed Cleve. Oh.
Thank you for these videos and your explanations. I've had my Atlas lathe since the early '70s and have never had the apron off. It all still works by some miracle. It has been used to make many parts for my shrimp boats and other than lots of oiling it really hasn't been taken very good care of. They are quality machines and will do a lot more than they are intended to do, it just takes longer than on a heavier more powerful machine.
Yes I enjoyed it very much, I'm too late to comment again, but I've done it anyway. In the UK we call it MAZAK, probably the same stuff, made of cheese I think! thanks for this Mr Pete, cheers Dave
Love all your videos Mr. Pete. Your awesome! I wish I would have grown up around you. I bet you have all the neighborhood kids hanging around. I certainly would be! Thank you for ALL of your videos, I always learn something.
When I closed my eyes I imagined you were Jimmy Stuart. A stutter here & there and ATLAS, you could be. [ ATLAS - alas ] Fine explanation with visuals mr pete... will HAVE TO watch a few more. BOY DO I MISS MY ATLAS LATHE! (Circa 1972)
mrpete,I have been watching your videos for some time now, and I must tell you that I have learned a lot and continue to. Thank you for all you do and for being such a great mentor and teacher. Your hard work is appreciated. Keep those interesting videos coming!
Mr Pete, That video explained things for me in a way the book never could. The gear driving the cross feed on my craftsman is damaged. Now I feel more confident trying to fix it myself . No more manual feed. Thanks again.
Love the time you gave us. Flat bed ways vs v bedways. That would be a dovetail bedways. The keyed shaft you referred too is called a feed rod. Of which ours do not have. Great mini lathe. American. Love it. Thank you for your time. I would rather you show me the parts than myself taking mine apart.
thank you for this great video. it was very helpful while repairing my power crossfeed on my 1953 Atlas. the gear was chewed up and actually sheared off. i replaced them with steel gears and for the first time since grampa was using it years ago my power crossfeed works. i also thoroughly cleaned all the gears, honed the halfnut to remove burrs and chips that were making it bind, and regreased everything. this video made it very easy
Thank you for spending the time putting these together--I just pulled off the apron on my Craftsman and cleaned it out, and will probably fix the cross-slide which was not working. The videos gave me the confidence to give it a try, and then go back to the video for things I may have overlooked. Thanks!
Great video. Thanks. I work for a university and we recently were given some shop equipment by an alumna from her late father's shop. Among the gear was an Atlas/Craftsman in the process of being restored...with the apron disassembled. This video and your others will definitely help in finishing the restoration. Thanks again.
Really enjoyed this one Mr. Pete. Thanks for taking the time to share with us! Good camera work too! That engagement pin from the half nuts is interesting...must be a cam on the handle shaft underneath the half nut housing to create the movement? Would be interested if you haven't already explained it in a previous video to learn how You adjust the half nuts. Thanks Always! ~PJ
+mrpete222 Just the way I think when I see something...no reflection on your content. Still would like to know how YOU adjust/set the half nuts, if you are inclined...some have adjustments some don't is my limited understanding. Thanks Always, Mr. Pete!
Thanks Mr Pete . I am in the process of rebuilding a Clausing 100 pre 1940 . I realize it is somewhat different than the Atlas but just the general knowledge of how the apron works is invaluable to me. I haven't disassembled mine yet but now i have a really good understanding of what sequence and what to look for. You are right you always have my undivided attention and I like all the extra detail you provide. Thanks again Terry from Texas
excellent video. i inherited my grandfathers Craftsman lathe and just realized the other day that it had power crossfeed. i had tried the button when i first got the lathe but i didn't do anything and i moved on to cleaning and reconditioning and repairing things. after an inspection i discovered that the miter gear is stripped, so i'll be doing this exact teardown. i had been looking for some instructions beforehand so i didn't get into a huge mess doing teardown without directions. this will be really helpful.
Mrpete I enjoy your videos so much. I got a chuckle from your comment about the attention span of your students. My shop teacher from high school had what he called the board of education and he would use it if we lost our attention. Of course you cant do that now. We all became vary successful In the fields that we chose after high school. Makes you kind of wonder if using that board of education was so bad after all.My first project was making a carbide cannon. Probably go to jail for that now.
As usual, great info and thank you for sharing, especially the comparison near the end of the video. The mass of the Atlas vs others isn't something home hobbyists aren't going to have the chance to see up close and personal. From your videos, I have been able to get up and going with bold caution.
Thanks for the video. Believe it or not I had a customer of mine GIVE me his father's Atlas lathe (just like this one) yesterday. I don't know a lot about lathes but am learning fast thanks to videos such as these. I really appreciate you experienced gentlemen explaining things in a clear way. I am so tired of the fast paced videos with stupid music and some guy yammering 200 mph....lol
Wow, that's quite a present from that customer. Thanks for watching my videos and they should help you a lot in mastering that machine. In a few months you will be able to make about anything you want
Thank you Mr Pete! Even though it is not a South Bend the concepts still apply to a major degree! And yes....right to end Sir Watched the whole thing. I usually do and my says...Is that ...that Mr Pete guy again? YEP Sure is. And glad of it too!
Very much enjoyed it. I'm amazed at the engineering necessary to get the accuracy between the apron, lead screw, and the gear head. also, if one has trouble disassembly the equipment the will never get it working.
Thanks for post this (and all the others!) I've got a 10F in the shop, nice to know what I'm getting into before getting into it! Please keep up the good work! Not many can present good and useful information like you do!
the half nut housing broke on my over the pond lathe, 13x40. I finally deduced the alignment was 0.020" off. ordered new ones, same cra__. making same now with correct dimensions. (have incorrect backups, hee hee.) your video helped confirm my reasoning. like Keith V says "unfinished tooling".
I just bought one st an estate sale. I took apart the skirt first as the main carriage was stuck. Previous owner had jury rigged some oiling device with bits of pipe cleaner which had become stuck in the gears. I cleaned the ways with emery , wiped it down with solvent and filed some rough spots off. It runs and feeds. Somebody removed the switch which is a big issue. I think it is a 1960s machine as it has a clutch on the lead screw. What a find!
Very good video. My atlas is really dirty under the apron so I cleaned it. This video also gave me a view of the carriage lock, mine is missing. I found one on e bay.
Yet another great and highly detailed video. I can tell you were an awesome teacher. Certainly better than any shop teacher that I had. I believe it's the monarch lathe that can feed both at the same time. Just FYI. Thx!
+ShysterLawyer better still, we're all motivated and WANT to hear what he has to say!! (also helps there are no real tests or grades for the course!! :P )
+Tim Hyatt So true that. Sadly, I was too much of a loud-mouth jack-wagon to appreciate my-- almost universally-- great teachers. Youth, of course, being wasted on the young.
I think the piece that keeps the saddle in place is called a keeper plate. edit: Oh and someone here on RUclips did a mod on his Atlas where he replaced the half nut with two brackets, the actual engagement was replaced with two sintered bronze plates with teeth on the engagement side. I wish i could remember the name, it was a pretty nicely done mod.
Thank you for another very instructive video. I didn’t realize it was so easy to remove the lead screw. Mine is in dire need of cleaning. I’ll get right on it!
When I bought my "restored" Atlas lathe the longitudinal feed would not work with the hand wheel. Turned out the guy who restored my lathe put the wrong gear on the pinion. It was the right diameter, but the wrong pitch. Thanks again for all of your Atlas and other videos. The class lengths are just fine the way they are. All interesting subjects.
Great video. This is so much easier than the older model D atlas lathes. In the D series, the apron could not be removed from the saddle and in order to do anything on the other side of the apron the whole saddle must be removed.
I watch your videos and refer to them as gospel. just watched this one and went out and removed my apron to clean it. not too bad considering the machine is a one owner and pristine. (I bought off orig. owner) I followed your instructions to the letter but upon reassembly I shattered the traverse gear housing.... apparently the rack was not lined up to traverse gear and she let go. such a shame as I said this lathe is (was) perfect. just a warning to anyone else the apron WILL line up with the pins and cap screws but MAKE SURE the rack lines up with gear. I felt ZERO resistance when tightening screws and it crumbled like a cookie.. thank you Mr Pete for all you do for us!!! now off to Ebay to spend a lot of $$
My 10” TH54 Atlas does not have the safety feature preventing carriage and crosswise from moving together. Also, the small hole in the top of the casting just above the cross slide knob should have a small ball bearing lying inside to act as a detent. Just as the half nut lever has a small ball bearing.
Thanks Lyle. Love these vids as I find the engineering aspect of these machines fascinating. If you're up to it, I'd love to see the guts in the South Bend. I live in the town where Hardinge lathes have been manufactured for decades but never had occasion to work on one.
Hello, sir. At 11:48, you show the trough that carries lubricating oil from the Gits oiler to (presumably) the miter gear bearing. On the replacement miter gear bearing that I bought, this trough dead-ends at the brass sleeve which is pressed into the housing; brass is visible at the bottom of the hole. I expected there to be a hole through the brass bushing to allow oil to flow onto the miter gear shaft spinning inside the brass bushing. Do you know what this Gits oiler and trough are meant to lubricate? Edit: I'm just going to drill the hole thru the brass sleeve... I'm certain that drilling this hole thru the sleeve was the final step to replacing it... a step that someone skipped. Great video, though. Love this series on the Atlas/Craftsman 12" lathe. Lots of helpful info.
Great information! I will have to take the apron off my Atlas lathe. The power crossfeed knob is frozen and there are other problems in there. Now I know what to expect.
Outstanding. Never complain about the length, Mr. Pete. We could always stop watching if we wanted but most of us are appreciative that you go into so much detail. I do have a question though: just how many lathes do you actually own? It seems you bring out a different one all the time. (Very jealous, by the way.).
Oh come now. The answer to the question "how many lathes does a fellow need" is probably the same as the answer to "how many motorcycles does a fellow need?". The answer is always: one more.
Just a bit of trivia... The bevel gears that power the crossfeed are called miter gears. I only know because my logan needed replacements due to a severely botched repair.
Thanks, Mr. Pete. I enjoyed this video. I have a small craftsman lathe that I'm trying to get back operational. Not sure if it's a 10" or 12, I guess I could check the swing to verify. Sn. is 101. 28900, but it's been stamped twice, 101.28910? Thanks again for the video!
Are these aprons interchangeable between the old 12" models? I have a 101.07383 that didn't have a cross feed. I was wondering if I can swap the aprons with one that does? Thank you very much for these videos. You're a tremendous help to us noobs.
I had to replace the half nuts on my Atlas 12 and in addition the bevel drive gear. I found that the bevel drive gear support oil hole was not drilled all the way through which prevented lubrication to the bevel gear. Be safe. Check yours.
I did not know they used Zamak zinc base alloy for gears. Which Zamak alloy did they use? I'd assume Zamak 3, because of the dimensional stability of the material, across varying temperatures. I know brass expands & contracts quite a bit, but the brass rack I am thinking of is on a .00005" dial gauge. 4 or 5 degrees F and it changes. She is a beautiful old lathe! I'd sure love to have it. I rarely see a machine tool, I don't like. Chinese stuff not withstanding.
Great video, Mr Pete. As to attention span, your viewers want to be here, while your students were probably chiefly engaged in "atmospheric research". Tom
Hello Mr. Tubalcain, I have immensely enjoyed your videos and learned a ton! Could you give a hint on how to machine a helical hole pattern around a shaft easily. I am trying to make a Bendix type clutch for starting a model R/C gas turbine engine. It appears that I need to build a fixture that will have the correct gearing so that the work piece can be pushed just the right amount while the milling machine does the job. Thank you very much.
Lyle, thank you for a very demo on the atlas apron. Will you please show the gear box next. Could you also compare it to the south 10 and what are the similar functions? I have the one handle south bend quick change gear box so a comment about how that differs would be appreciated. Thank you.
Thanks Mr. Pete! My wife bought me the Atlas version of this lathe for Christmas so the timing of this is a bit miraculous. To be honest, I didn't realize it had power cross-feed until I watched your video! I will purchase the course for this lathe shortly but I'm hoping the Canadian dollar improves before the sale expires!! ;o). Have you ever had the headstock off? I looked at your video on moving the Logan prior to picking up the lathe and expected the HS to come off easy but no such luck. We undid the "saddle" (not sure if that is the correct name) bolt which appeared to be the only thing holding it on but it would not budge. The previous owner got a steel drift and a sledge out but I got scared and said we'd move it the way it was!! The 3-jaw was stuck on when we picked it up but your recent video on that subject helped me get it off without smashing anything. (Check's in the mail!!). Another surprise we found after we got it home was a hairline crack where the belt tensioner lever attaches to the half-shaft casting. (Again, I'm making up these names.) I wonder if this could be brazed? Lastly, I assume there is Morris taper in the headstock. If I am correct about this, would you know the size? My research seems to suggest it has to be a #4 but I could be wrong. I suppose it depends whether it starts at the outer edge or in further. Anyway, thanks again. I got the yellow boy plans from Toly over the weekend so I'm raring to go! (I will start with your course so I don't smash the lathe!) Kind regards, Paul.
+Paul Culbert Paul. Its a #3 MT in headstock. You can probably braze that past. I had the headstock off of my clausing. They are easy to get off of the atlas. Glad you got the chuck off-thanks for watching
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My grandfather passed away years ago and left an atlas lathe in our shop. It was taken apart and just sat for years, 2 years ago when I moved back home I managed to get it back in working order. Since that time I have found your videos to be extremely helpful, I have learned a lot and must thank you for helping me to reconnect with my past. I miss the old days when I would sit and watch him use the lathe for a lot of different projects... 2 weeks ago I finally found the change gears, after watching your videos I know immediately what they were, it almost brought me to tears learning they had not been lost.
I can't thank you enough...
+Jeffrey Santo Glad I helped. Keep watching, there are several more videos coming in this series
Just got my first lathe yesterday. Thank goodness for this video, it solved my problem. Been a long time coming as I’ve watched this channel a long time. A ‘68 QC54. It looks like it hasn’t ever been used because the ways and the undersides of the carriage and cross slide look new. The original owner crashed the carriage right after buying it I guess and broke the cross slide gear. The guy I bought it from never put it back together but replaced the gear. When I went to see it he couldn’t get the cross slide to automatically travel. Today I took it apart and found he put in a cross slide gear that wasn’t keyed. This video was what I needed to see. What an easy fix as my neighbor offered to key it with his Amco shaper. Thanks the lord for Mr. Pete.
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You are a truly gifted teacher. Your generous spirit in sharing your immense knowledge/professionalism/and work ethics is a gift for the coming generations, I thank you and envy your rich legacy.
Thank you very very much for your kind words
I have been wanting someone to go over how the apron operates for a long, long time. Thank you so much Lyle!
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Nice video Mr. Pete. I didn't get bored at.
Thanks
I had a friend use my QC54 and when I went to work on the lathe again, I found the power cross feed inop. I wasn’t sure what was under the apron so I’m very thankful to have found your video. Commencing disassembly …
Most excellent Mr. Pete. I bet the kids in your classes learned a lot whether they wanted to or not. You are a superb teacher. And you obviously know your onions.
I really enjoy your videos.
+Steve McEntyre THANK YOU very much
Great. I've watched almost 250 of your videos so far and have been curious about this exact subject, particularly how the power crossfeed works. Thanks!
Awesome, thank you!
Sir. Your videos have taught me many things. Thank you for the lessons. You're a great teacher.
Thank you very much
Great walk through Mr. Pete. Don't worry about too much detail with me. You could have completely disassembled and reassembled and I would have watched it all the way through! Thanks for taking the time and energy to share. So, are the shaper and casting videos still in the works?
Joe
+My Heap thanks for watching
One of the things I really enjoy about your videos is your precise enunciation. It probably results from your career as a teacher. So many RUclips videos have mumbling narrators, requiring rewinding a few seconds to make out what they said. Thanks for your efforts!
+Alan Branch thank you very much, I do work on that. We took speech classes in college
One of the first pieces of shop equipment I bought was a power solvent tank system for washing parts. Super video, as always. I am 70 and I was able to watch right to the end.
+Bob Smith I need one
I first watched this video 5 years ago and found it very interesting. A few weeks ago I found an atlas QC54 10" lathe and was able to purchase it. The ways are in perfect condition, no nicks or dings at all. I need to make an oil dauber for the tail stock, I will refer to your video on that project. The only part that is broken is the plunge control that engages the power to the cross feed. The casting broke at the point where the pin is inserted to hold it on the shaft. I was able to one on Ebay and it is on its way. The detailed look at the apron is very helpful and lets me know what I am getting myself into while replacing the control.
You are by far one of my favorite channels on youtube and I have watched many hours of your content. Thank you for dedication, inspiration, and education... I will put it to good use.
Thank you very much for giving me an encouraging comment when I’m a little down. I am so glad I was able to help with your repair.
Excellent video Mr. Pete! Very informative and particularly applicable to me since my Craftsman 12" is very close to a twin of yours. (Exactly the same, but slightly different half nut lever.)
Don't worry about video length, the longer the better; my attention span equals the length of your demonstrations!
+ShysterLawyer I'm glad you like the long ones!
Enjoy all your videos! Never feel you are too detailed in your demonstrations. I am sure all the atlas/craftsman owners like myself and most other lathe owners included were glued to your demo on this and all your machine disassembles and cut-a-ways. In fact I know myself I go back and watch over sometimes a few times just to know what is going on while using my machine. I've always been one of those guys that would read and research first on how it works rather than just going to the trouble shooting section of the book first. That is how I would trouble shoot all the electrical and hydraulic repair I've done on heavy equipment all my life, and it's worked best for me. And just for laughs and some good comments from my coworkers when things got on edge, I would tell them "LOVE YOUR JOB AND YOU'LL NEVER WORK A DAY IN YOUR LIFE" ! Thanks, Ed Cleve. Oh.
+Eddie Kawecki thanks for watching--Thats sage advise on your job
Thank you for these videos and your explanations. I've had my Atlas lathe since the early '70s and have never had the apron off. It all still works by some miracle. It has been used to make many parts for my shrimp boats and other than lots of oiling it really hasn't been taken very good care of. They are quality machines and will do a lot more than they are intended to do, it just takes longer than on a heavier more powerful machine.
Yes I enjoyed it very much, I'm too late to comment again, but I've done it anyway. In the UK we call it MAZAK, probably the same stuff, made of cheese I think! thanks for this Mr Pete, cheers Dave
Love all your videos Mr. Pete. Your awesome! I wish I would have grown up around you. I bet you have all the neighborhood kids hanging around. I certainly would be! Thank you for ALL of your videos, I always learn something.
+R Wallace thanks for watching
Really enjoyed this one Lyle, thanks
When I closed my eyes I imagined you were Jimmy Stuart. A stutter here & there and ATLAS, you could be. [ ATLAS - alas ]
Fine explanation with visuals mr pete... will HAVE TO watch a few more. BOY DO I
MISS MY ATLAS LATHE! (Circa 1972)
Buy another one
Thumbs up, Mr.Pete, well done congrat.
mrpete,I have been watching your videos for some time now, and I must tell you that I have learned a lot and continue to. Thank you for all you do and for being such a great mentor and teacher. Your hard work is appreciated. Keep those interesting videos coming!
+Reinerio Curbelo thanks for watching
Sure appreciate seeing the inside of the apron, thank you for sharing this.
+Glenn Felpel thanks for watching
Mr Pete, That video explained things for me in a way the book never could. The gear driving the cross feed on my craftsman is damaged. Now I feel more confident trying to fix it myself . No more manual feed. Thanks again.
+Todd Anonymous Glad I clarified
Fantastic Instructional Video !! 🤗
Many thanks!
Love the time you gave us. Flat bed ways vs v bedways. That would be a dovetail bedways. The keyed shaft you referred too is called a feed rod. Of which ours do not have. Great mini lathe. American. Love it. Thank you for your time. I would rather you show me the parts than myself taking mine apart.
Yes lol
thank you for this great video. it was very helpful while repairing my power crossfeed on my 1953 Atlas. the gear was chewed up and actually sheared off. i replaced them with steel gears and for the first time since grampa was using it years ago my power crossfeed works. i also thoroughly cleaned all the gears, honed the halfnut to remove burrs and chips that were making it bind, and regreased everything. this video made it very easy
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Thank you for spending the time putting these together--I just pulled off the apron on my Craftsman and cleaned it out, and will probably fix the cross-slide which was not working. The videos gave me the confidence to give it a try, and then go back to the video for things I may have overlooked. Thanks!
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Yet another comprehensive but concise video. Many thanks.
+Dan Whiteford thanks for watching
Great video. Thanks. I work for a university and we recently were given some shop equipment by an alumna from her late father's shop. Among the gear was an Atlas/Craftsman in the process of being restored...with the apron disassembled. This video and your others will definitely help in finishing the restoration. Thanks again.
+Larry D Barr Glad I helped-thanks for watching
Love all ur videos Tubalcain
Really enjoyed this one Mr. Pete. Thanks for taking the time to share with us! Good camera work too! That engagement pin from the half nuts is interesting...must be a cam on the handle shaft underneath the half nut housing to create the movement? Would be interested if you haven't already explained it in a previous video to learn how You adjust the half nuts. Thanks Always! ~PJ
+pjsalchemy Guess I did not cover that
+mrpete222 Just the way I think when I see something...no reflection on your content. Still would like to know how YOU adjust/set the half nuts, if you are inclined...some have adjustments some don't is my limited understanding. Thanks Always, Mr. Pete!
Thanks Mr Pete . I am in the process of rebuilding a Clausing 100 pre 1940 . I realize it is somewhat different than the Atlas but just the general knowledge of how the apron works is invaluable to me. I haven't disassembled mine yet but now i have a really good understanding of what sequence and what to look for. You are right you always have my undivided attention and I like all the extra detail you provide. Thanks again Terry from Texas
Thank you very much, I am glad I have been of help
excellent video. i inherited my grandfathers Craftsman lathe and just realized the other day that it had power crossfeed. i had tried the button when i first got the lathe but i didn't do anything and i moved on to cleaning and reconditioning and repairing things. after an inspection i discovered that the miter gear is stripped, so i'll be doing this exact teardown. i had been looking for some instructions beforehand so i didn't get into a huge mess doing teardown without directions. this will be really helpful.
I am glad I helped
What a wonderful lesson! Very informative. Thank you Mr. Pete
Mrpete I enjoy your videos so much. I got a chuckle from your comment about the attention span of your students. My shop teacher from high school had what he called the board of education and he would use it if we lost our attention. Of course you cant do that now. We all became vary successful In the fields that we chose after high school. Makes you kind of wonder if using that board of education was so bad after all.My first project was making a carbide cannon. Probably go to jail for that now.
+captahab801 Absolutely! Sadly, the "board of education" had a lot of abuse potential.
+captahab801 Yes--Mr alpert had a bd of ed.
captahab801 You. Did very good
I always wanted to see how everything in the apron actually worked. You picked a great demo machine.
Thanks
Excellent. Great reference for when I rebuild mine. Thank you.
+Temuba thanks for watching
Very good video. Thanks Mr. Pete!
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Thank you great day in class on the front row.
+Lewis Mcclain You were so I quiet, I didn't know you were present.
I don't have one of those critters but thank you for the education! I always learn something.
As usual, great info and thank you for sharing, especially the comparison near the end of the video. The mass of the Atlas vs others isn't something home hobbyists aren't going to have the chance to see up close and personal. From your videos, I have been able to get up and going with bold caution.
+CrossThread Aero Industries thanks
Thanks for the video. Believe it or not I had a customer of mine GIVE me his father's Atlas lathe (just like this one) yesterday. I don't know a lot about lathes but am learning fast thanks to videos such as these. I really appreciate you experienced gentlemen explaining things in a clear way.
I am so tired of the fast paced videos with stupid music and some guy yammering 200 mph....lol
Wow, that's quite a present from that customer. Thanks for watching my videos and they should help you a lot in mastering that machine. In a few months you will be able to make about anything you want
@@mrpete222 Thanks for the positive reply Mr Pete! Looking forward to it this hobby.
Thank you Mr Pete! Even though it is not a South Bend the concepts still apply to a major degree! And yes....right to end Sir Watched the whole thing. I usually do and my says...Is that ...that Mr Pete guy again? YEP Sure is. And glad of it too!
+phooesnax thanks for watching
Very much enjoyed it. I'm amazed at the engineering necessary to get the accuracy between the apron, lead screw, and the gear head. also, if one has trouble disassembly the equipment the will never get it working.
+dlstanf2 Glad you liked-Thanks for watching!
Thanks for post this (and all the others!) I've got a 10F in the shop, nice to know what I'm getting into before getting into it! Please keep up the good work! Not many can present good and useful information like you do!
+Turbo2Pete thanks for watching
Thank You for sharing I've enjoyed listening, greatly appreciate the time you've given, You sound very much like James Stewart
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the half nut housing broke on my over the pond lathe, 13x40. I finally deduced the alignment was 0.020" off. ordered new ones, same cra__. making same now with correct dimensions. (have incorrect backups, hee hee.) your video helped confirm my reasoning. like Keith V says "unfinished tooling".
+James Hillman So true--glad you got it working
thanks Mr.Pete i bought the same lathe and need to do some work to the apron and thanks to you i got a look to see what i am in for
I just bought one st an estate sale. I took apart the skirt first as the main carriage was stuck. Previous owner had jury rigged some oiling device with bits of pipe cleaner which had become stuck in the gears. I cleaned the ways with emery , wiped it down with solvent and filed some rough spots off. It runs and feeds. Somebody removed the switch which is a big issue. I think it is a 1960s machine as it has a clutch on the lead screw. What a find!
It sounds like you've got a real nice machine
Thanks for the tour - will use this when restoring mine!
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Very good video. My atlas is really dirty under the apron so I cleaned it. This video also gave me a view of the carriage lock, mine is missing. I found one on e bay.
Yet another great and highly detailed video. I can tell you were an awesome teacher. Certainly better than any shop teacher that I had. I believe it's the monarch lathe that can feed both at the same time. Just FYI. Thx!
+jeff edison Are, not were.
Mr. Pete has a class size of almost 90,000 now!
+ShysterLawyer better still, we're all motivated and WANT to hear what he has to say!! (also helps there are no real tests or grades for the course!! :P )
+Tim Hyatt So true that. Sadly, I was too much of a loud-mouth jack-wagon to appreciate my-- almost universally-- great teachers. Youth, of course, being wasted on the young.
+jeff edison thanks for watching
I think the piece that keeps the saddle in place is called a keeper plate.
edit: Oh and someone here on RUclips did a mod on his Atlas where he replaced the half nut with two brackets, the actual engagement was replaced with two sintered bronze plates with teeth on the engagement side.
I wish i could remember the name, it was a pretty nicely done mod.
Lovely video. :D
+aserta KEEPER--sound like a reasonable enough name thanks for watching
Excellent video, I purchased the complete series...Thanks so much.
+rlprgp62 THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Thank you for another very instructive video. I didn’t realize it was so easy to remove the lead screw. Mine is in dire need of cleaning. I’ll get right on it!
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When I bought my "restored" Atlas lathe the longitudinal feed would not work with the hand wheel. Turned out the guy who restored my lathe put the wrong gear on the pinion. It was the right diameter, but the wrong pitch. Thanks again for all of your Atlas and other videos. The class lengths are just fine the way they are. All interesting subjects.
+Gus Lint Glad I helped--thanks for watching
Thanks! You've made the apron clear to understand.
So many pieces. Thank you.
+Roy Lucas thanks for watching
Hi Lyle, actually those old screws look pretty cool!, and "nice rack". Actually a beautiful machine, wish I'd a had one of those as a younger man.
+howder1951 Thanks for watching!
15:10 Looking at the apron of a 10" Atlas (TH42). It does not have the Gits oilers or the lockout pin between longitudinal and cross feed.
Very interesting video even though I haven't got a Craftman lathe. Keep up the great work Lyle. From John on the Isle of Wight.
+John Ambler thanks for watching
where I used to work had a Monarch toolroom lathe that you could cut a 45°angle by feeding both directions.
great video
+toddlfrank Thats the one-thanks for watching
Very good and comprehensive demo. Thank you!
+Jim Koonce thanks for watching
Thank you for the atlas lathe video series. Now to go pull my apron and clean and lube it.
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Yet another excellent lecture, thank you. I must admit I have never worked with a lathe. Now i want to make one :-)
+John R thanks for watching
This video was just perfect for my circumstance. I was wondering why I could not engage the cross slide, when the 1/2 nut is engaged. Nice Video.
+Josaljo Won thanks for watching
Thank-You, Mr. Pete As Always thanks for taking the time to make this video and Support this site. ~M~
+Mike A Drover Thanks--keep watching
agreed
Now that is the kind of lathe I have but mine is a later model. Thanks for the video.
Always enjoy your video's Thanks
Great video. This is so much easier than the older model D atlas lathes. In the D series, the apron could not be removed from the saddle and in order to do anything on the other side of the apron the whole saddle must be removed.
+MattsMotorz That would have been difficult-thanks for watching
Excellent walk through!
+Patrick Rooks Thanks for watching!
I watch your videos and refer to them as gospel. just watched this one and went out and removed my apron to clean it. not too bad considering the machine is a one owner and pristine. (I bought off orig. owner) I followed your instructions to the letter but upon reassembly I shattered the traverse gear housing.... apparently the rack was not lined up to traverse gear and she let go. such a shame as I said this lathe is (was) perfect. just a warning to anyone else the apron WILL line up with the pins and cap screws but MAKE SURE the rack lines up with gear. I felt ZERO resistance when tightening screws and it crumbled like a cookie.. thank you Mr Pete for all you do for us!!! now off to Ebay to spend a lot of $$
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My 10” TH54 Atlas does not have the safety feature preventing carriage and crosswise from moving together. Also, the small hole in the top of the casting just above the cross slide knob should have a small ball bearing lying inside to act as a detent. Just as the half nut lever has a small ball bearing.
Thanks Lyle. Love these vids as I find the engineering aspect of these machines fascinating. If you're up to it, I'd love to see the guts in the South Bend. I live in the town where Hardinge lathes have been manufactured for decades but never had occasion to work on one.
+Donnybrook10 thanks for watching
Being the owner of an Atlas 10" lathe its interesting that the 12" lathe appears to use the same apron, part number 10F-9A.
+hankus253 I bet it is
MrPete's got a bit of a Jimmy Stewart thing going on.
that was wonderful, thank you for going into detail and sharing it with us
+lordmcted THANKS FOR WATCHING
Hello, sir. At 11:48, you show the trough that carries lubricating oil from the Gits oiler to (presumably) the miter gear bearing. On the replacement miter gear bearing that I bought, this trough dead-ends at the brass sleeve which is pressed into the housing; brass is visible at the bottom of the hole. I expected there to be a hole through the brass bushing to allow oil to flow onto the miter gear shaft spinning inside the brass bushing. Do you know what this Gits oiler and trough are meant to lubricate?
Edit: I'm just going to drill the hole thru the brass sleeve... I'm certain that drilling this hole thru the sleeve was the final step to replacing it... a step that someone skipped. Great video, though. Love this series on the Atlas/Craftsman 12" lathe. Lots of helpful info.
Great information! I will have to take the apron off my Atlas lathe. The power crossfeed knob is frozen and there are other problems in there. Now I know what to expect.
+davida1hiwaaynet Glad I helped
Outstanding. Never complain about the length, Mr. Pete.
We could always stop watching if we wanted but most of us are appreciative that you go into so much detail.
I do have a question though: just how many lathes do you actually own? It seems you bring out a different one all the time. (Very jealous, by the way.).
+Ron Icard Too many-thanks for watching
Oh come now. The answer to the question "how many lathes does a fellow need" is probably the same as the answer to "how many motorcycles does a fellow need?".
The answer is always: one more.
+Ron Icard Another answer might be" Don't ask stupid questions".
Tom
Just a bit of trivia... The bevel gears that power the crossfeed are called miter gears. I only know because my logan needed replacements due to a severely botched repair.
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Thank you so much I just got my atlas the other day and the power feed is not working. Now I am able to repair it 😁😁
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Thanks, Mr. Pete. I enjoyed this video. I have a small craftsman lathe that I'm trying to get back operational. Not sure if it's a 10" or 12, I guess I could check the swing to verify. Sn. is 101. 28900, but it's been stamped twice, 101.28910? Thanks again for the video!
Are these aprons interchangeable between the old 12" models? I have a 101.07383 that didn't have a cross feed. I was wondering if I can swap the aprons with one that does? Thank you very much for these videos. You're a tremendous help to us noobs.
Bravo - thanks for this!!
This was great! Can't thank You enough.
Mr. Pete, why didn't you squash that little bug, at 12:35 of the video, with your hammer? You could have added it to your "Greatest Hits" list!
+Poncho likes bacon LOL
I had to replace the half nuts on my Atlas 12 and in addition the bevel drive gear. I found that the bevel drive gear support oil hole was not drilled all the way through which prevented lubrication to the bevel gear. Be safe. Check yours.
+Gord Taylor thanks for watching--open up that hole
I did not know they used Zamak zinc base alloy for gears. Which Zamak alloy did they use? I'd assume Zamak 3, because of the dimensional stability of the material, across varying temperatures. I know brass expands & contracts quite a bit, but the brass rack I am thinking of is on a .00005" dial gauge. 4 or 5 degrees F and it changes. She is a beautiful old lathe! I'd sure love to have it. I rarely see a machine tool, I don't like. Chinese stuff not withstanding.
Not many hours on that machine looks great mr Pete .
+Doug Van Allen thanks for watching
Great video, Mr Pete. As to attention span, your viewers want to be here, while your students were probably chiefly engaged in "atmospheric research".
Tom
+awhs1964 You got that right!
Many thanks..really helped me for college purpose.
Thanks for watching
I believe the piece with the three screws is called gibb... don’t quote me though!
Well explained and informative video - thanks again, for sharing Your knowledge ;)
+Erling Weiseth Thanks for watching!
Thank you, Sir.
Hello Mr. Tubalcain,
I have immensely enjoyed your videos and learned a ton! Could you give a hint on how to machine a helical hole pattern around a shaft easily. I am trying to make a Bendix type clutch for starting a model R/C gas turbine engine. It appears that I need to build a fixture that will have the correct gearing so that the work piece can be pushed just the right amount while the milling machine does the job. Thank you very much.
+Anab Akanda Requires a mill with power feed linked to a dividing head. No can do
Lyle, thank you for a very demo on the atlas apron. Will you please show the gear box next. Could you also compare it to the south 10 and what are the similar functions? I have the one handle south bend quick change gear box so a comment about how that differs would be appreciated. Thank you.
Lyle,
If you get a chance please do a video on how to adjust the clutch on your the Atlas. There is almost nothing out there about it.
Thanks Frank
I have never had to adjust it
In back gears at low rpm while cutting threads it just spins
Thanks Mr. Pete! My wife bought me the Atlas version of this lathe for Christmas so the timing of this is a bit miraculous. To be honest, I didn't realize it had power cross-feed until I watched your video! I will purchase the course for this lathe shortly but I'm hoping the Canadian dollar improves before the sale expires!! ;o).
Have you ever had the headstock off? I looked at your video on moving the Logan prior to picking up the lathe and expected the HS to come off easy but no such luck. We undid the "saddle" (not sure if that is the correct name) bolt which appeared to be the only thing holding it on but it would not budge. The previous owner got a steel drift and a sledge out but I got scared and said we'd move it the way it was!!
The 3-jaw was stuck on when we picked it up but your recent video on that subject helped me get it off without smashing anything. (Check's in the mail!!).
Another surprise we found after we got it home was a hairline crack where the belt tensioner lever attaches to the half-shaft casting. (Again, I'm making up these names.) I wonder if this could be brazed?
Lastly, I assume there is Morris taper in the headstock. If I am correct about this, would you know the size? My research seems to suggest it has to be a #4 but I could be wrong. I suppose it depends whether it starts at the outer edge or in further.
Anyway, thanks again. I got the yellow boy plans from Toly over the weekend so I'm raring to go! (I will start with your course so I don't smash the lathe!)
Kind regards,
Paul.
+Paul Culbert Paul. Its a #3 MT in headstock. You can probably braze that past. I had the headstock off of my clausing. They are easy to get off of the atlas. Glad you got the chuck off-thanks for watching
+mrpete222 Thank you sir!