Boeing Bows Out Of Competition For The New E-4B 'Nightwatch' Doomsday Plane

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  • Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
  • In early December, reporting from Reuters indicated that Boeing is no longer up for consideration to develop a successor to the US Air Force’s E-4B. This aircraft serves as the last airborne command post for the US President in the event of a catastrophic incident.
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  • @ukar69
    @ukar69 9 месяцев назад +90

    I’m assuming it doesn’t necessarily mean the 747 won’t be used, just not Boeing acquiring and doing the work. They would be second hand aircraft anyway, like both VC-25Bs will be.

    • @PASquared
      @PASquared 9 месяцев назад +7

      This is the logical answer

    • @LordVader5738
      @LordVader5738 9 месяцев назад +5

      The new VC-25Bs are brand new. The original customers never picked them up.

    • @Mrs.Doubtfire007
      @Mrs.Doubtfire007 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@LordVader5738Yeah, but they still aren't built for order. Just not the same.

  • @hourbee5535
    @hourbee5535 9 месяцев назад +109

    I’m sure Cessna can come up with something

  • @Weeb404
    @Weeb404 9 месяцев назад +28

    Would be cool if Northrop or lockheed make the next E-4B

    • @billhanna2148
      @billhanna2148 9 месяцев назад +1

      ANYONE is better than Boeing.

    • @craigbeatty8565
      @craigbeatty8565 9 месяцев назад +2

      How? They got out of commercial aviation decades ago.

    • @B52Stratofortress1
      @B52Stratofortress1 9 месяцев назад +12

      ​@craigbeatty8565 The USAF won't consider anything without 4 engines. So the 747 is the only possible platform. It's also no longer in production. Lockheed or Northrop's bid for the contract would have to include them acquiring lightly used 747-8's and modifying them accordingly.

    • @sarahlachman1349
      @sarahlachman1349 9 месяцев назад +5

      Its time for the L1012!

  • @TimTVOfficial
    @TimTVOfficial 9 месяцев назад +7

    Let's bring back the Lockheed L1011 for this project

  • @xyyyyx3247
    @xyyyyx3247 9 месяцев назад +20

    Thanks to the over budget of building the 2 replacement presidents planes and problems with the 737 Max problems, Boeing is in financial difficulty.

    • @CausticLemons7
      @CausticLemons7 9 месяцев назад +1

      And the KC-46 tankers for the Air Force, and the Starliner space capsule, and the 787 paint peeling, etc.

  • @thehoundGOT
    @thehoundGOT 9 месяцев назад +30

    Bring back the L-1011 Tristar!

    • @obelic71
      @obelic71 9 месяцев назад +1

      C17 globemaster or 777X

    • @theharper1
      @theharper1 9 месяцев назад

      @@obelic71 both of which are Boeing?

    • @GH-oi2jf
      @GH-oi2jf 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@theharper1- The Tristar is not Boeing.

    • @theharper1
      @theharper1 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@GH-oi2jf the C17 and 777x are Boeing. Please check the reply which I referenced. I'm aware that the L1011 was Lockheed.

    • @Hattonbank
      @Hattonbank 9 месяцев назад

      Why not the CV-990?

  • @boredtired1815
    @boredtired1815 9 месяцев назад +4

    If they want to keep the analog nature of the current E4, then my guess is they would use the retired KC10s with the most remaining life.

    • @B52Stratofortress1
      @B52Stratofortress1 9 месяцев назад +2

      They're even older than the existing E-4Bs are

    • @boredtired1815
      @boredtired1815 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@B52Stratofortress1 They may be older but there are more of them (for spare parts) and some might have fewer pressurization cycles which I think matters more than age.

  • @lanzortiz3199
    @lanzortiz3199 9 месяцев назад +20

    Don't worry, they got two choices. Chinese C919 with extended range or the Russian IL-96 400.

  • @jdf1stats
    @jdf1stats 9 месяцев назад +12

    Gotta bring back the 747-8 ! 😁

    • @sebastianguerraty6413
      @sebastianguerraty6413 9 месяцев назад +1

      I love that plane, but they are using the space for 737s I believe, so this seems extremely unlikely. :/

    • @mikeske9777
      @mikeske9777 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@sebastianguerraty6413 That space currently is being used to do rework on the 787 prior to delivery in the Everett 40-23 building which was the old assembly bay for the 747. The 737 is going in on the old 787 line building 40-26. Building 40-24 and 40-25 are used for 777 production and the 40-34 building behind the 40-24 bay is the KC-46/767 line. I am retired Boeing employee that worked in Everett for 30 years

    • @CoSmicGoesRacing
      @CoSmicGoesRacing 9 месяцев назад

      Boeing kind of is. Remember, the new Air Force One jets currently in development are two 747-8s that never took delivery. The USAF decided to take those up for the VC-25Bs.
      That’s going to be the last new 747s that will be produced. (Atlas Air took delivery of the last ever commercial 747 but not the last new 747)

    • @CoSmicGoesRacing
      @CoSmicGoesRacing 9 месяцев назад

      @@sebastianguerraty6413plus, other than Korean Air, Lufthansa and Air China, no passenger airline wanted to order anymore, hence why the orders dried up and Boeing decided to end production after the last freighters were built and delivered in 2023)

  • @raf1651
    @raf1651 9 месяцев назад +3

    Why not ask Airbus?

    • @shauny2285
      @shauny2285 7 месяцев назад

      Airbus could supply the airframe, say the A340, but work has to be done in the USA, so NG or LM would be the prime.

  • @Incidental104
    @Incidental104 9 месяцев назад +5

    I don't understand why can't they just take the 747-8 and add all of the modifications on it? The modifications have already been done on the same 747 body once surely it can be done again. At the end of the day the only real difference are the wings, engines and the cockpit.

    • @KarmaFlight
      @KarmaFlight 9 месяцев назад +9

      Boeing does not make the 747-8 anymore. There dismantled the assembly line and equipment.

    • @johnp139
      @johnp139 9 месяцев назад +2

      That’s probably what will happen.

    • @johnp139
      @johnp139 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@KarmaFlightThey don’t have to be new.

    • @Incidental104
      @Incidental104 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@KarmaFlight they can always buy second hand many are gonna say farewell to the 747-8 soon, 747-200 in 2023 is just crazy…

  • @aeromtb2468
    @aeromtb2468 9 месяцев назад +11

    just use all the retired A380s or 747-400s.

  • @happilyham6769
    @happilyham6769 9 месяцев назад +5

    I think it's great that the government has stopped giving manufacturers blank cheques. Enough over spending.

  • @gerrymccartney3561
    @gerrymccartney3561 9 месяцев назад +78

    The Chinese will be glad to take on the job.

  • @Overspeed_Gaming
    @Overspeed_Gaming 9 месяцев назад +20

    I don’t think planes like the 777x or A350 will be used because the added safety and security of 4 engines is paramount for carrying the president.

    • @jaketus
      @jaketus 9 месяцев назад +18

      I mean, ETOPS-certifications are exactly to prove that twin jet is safe enough for flying with two engines.

    • @johnp139
      @johnp139 9 месяцев назад +4

      It’s about power requirements.

    • @johnp139
      @johnp139 9 месяцев назад

      @canaryX2784That’s because of ignorant comments like yours from so many ignorant people.

    • @YukariAkiyama
      @YukariAkiyama 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@jaketusredundancy. Money isn’t a concern to the US, redundancy is. Better to have 4 very reliable engines than 2 very reliable ones

  • @dutchflats
    @dutchflats 9 месяцев назад +1

    Boeing's engineering competency over the last several decades has been greatly diminished from its legacy of past great aerospace achievements!

  • @rapidthrash1964
    @rapidthrash1964 9 месяцев назад

    Hey Lockheed!

  • @HelloEdits613
    @HelloEdits613 9 месяцев назад +10

    What does "bows out of the competition" mean?

    • @gabrielb9010
      @gabrielb9010 9 месяцев назад +15

      They're no longer gonna do it

    • @obelic71
      @obelic71 9 месяцев назад +6

      They saw the specs of the DOD and said hell no !

    • @GarrettWorcester
      @GarrettWorcester 9 месяцев назад +2

      "Please pack your knives and go."
      "The tribe has spoken; it's time to go."
      "You made your choice; now it's up to me to bow out gracefully..."

    • @kingduck3192
      @kingduck3192 9 месяцев назад +3

      It means they said gives us more money please

    • @lanzortiz3199
      @lanzortiz3199 9 месяцев назад +1

      They bowed to the competition. Literally 😂

  • @johnpatricklim4509
    @johnpatricklim4509 9 месяцев назад +3

    So....is Airbus taking over...?

  • @hypercomms2001
    @hypercomms2001 9 месяцев назад

    What about Airbus?

    • @mafiaboy87
      @mafiaboy87 9 месяцев назад +2

      US defence contracts stipulate made in USA and favours American companies for security reasons

    • @hypercomms2001
      @hypercomms2001 9 месяцев назад

      @@mafiaboy87 I think they are rather stuck then… because Boeing is in trouble and Airbus may be the only game in town…………….unless they want to consider COMAC(!)

    • @osasunaitor
      @osasunaitor 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@hypercomms2001 you are talking about commercial jet manufacturers, but don't forget that there are other military aviation manufacturers in the USA which could take the role. Airbus and Comac are out of the question.

    • @MR-th1nf
      @MR-th1nf 9 месяцев назад

      in case of security ? take the bus! @@mafiaboy87

  • @raxxmoriti
    @raxxmoriti 9 месяцев назад +32

    Airbus A350-1000 enters the chat

    • @JohnMphs
      @JohnMphs 9 месяцев назад

      That's what I'm thinking too.

    • @GeoStreber
      @GeoStreber 9 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah, but my bet is on the A350-900, because it has that insane long range version.

    • @tommyburton3760
      @tommyburton3760 9 месяцев назад +3

      yeah but also the a380 would be really really cool.

    • @Pedro_the_great
      @Pedro_the_great 9 месяцев назад +7

      It's must be American made. So no, that shitbox won't be looked at

    • @kylefaris5487
      @kylefaris5487 9 месяцев назад

      @@Pedro_the_great it *must* be? where does it say that?

  • @clayz1
    @clayz1 9 месяцев назад

    Boeing is obligated.

  • @iceman9678
    @iceman9678 9 месяцев назад +11

    Doomsday planes may be pointless in this era of warfare.

  • @bradrothberg5863
    @bradrothberg5863 9 месяцев назад +3

    Embraer?

  • @johnp139
    @johnp139 9 месяцев назад +4

    Good! That’s what the DoD gets for forcing all of these Firm Fixed Price contracts!!!

  • @frankpinmtl
    @frankpinmtl 9 месяцев назад +23

    Boeing wants Uncle Sam to pay for them under bidding and running up the bill

    • @johnp139
      @johnp139 9 месяцев назад +3

      No, they want to prevent that from happening again.

    • @frankpinmtl
      @frankpinmtl 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@johnp139 Yes - the gov't does.

  • @TheZayzoo
    @TheZayzoo 9 месяцев назад +6

    give it to space-x

    • @InsertGenuineName
      @InsertGenuineName 9 месяцев назад +1

      SpaceX doesn’t make planes and has no experience with them.

    • @tylerdurden4006
      @tylerdurden4006 9 месяцев назад +1

      Planes that blow up themselves? Why would you want that?

  • @goelnuma6527
    @goelnuma6527 9 месяцев назад +2

    Modify the 777x

  • @NotchNate
    @NotchNate 9 месяцев назад +1

    Comic C919 will be the next one.

  • @peterj.farnsworth2606
    @peterj.farnsworth2606 9 месяцев назад +5

    No idea what this means. is this Click bait?

    • @PasleyAviationPhotography
      @PasleyAviationPhotography 9 месяцев назад +19

      Not clickbait, you just don't understand the terms in the title. Which is why you watch the video...

    • @johnp139
      @johnp139 9 месяцев назад +2

      Try listening

  • @johnkilcher477
    @johnkilcher477 9 месяцев назад

    Thnak tRump with his cheapest price guarantee. However that's why Amazon is responsible for the closing of many businesses. Read 'em and weep.

  • @treeandaturd
    @treeandaturd 9 месяцев назад +2

    scarebus might build one for ya!

    • @maxsaviation9512
      @maxsaviation9512 9 месяцев назад +13

      Better than the coffin jet by Boeing

    • @treeandaturd
      @treeandaturd 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@maxsaviation9512blowing

  • @krukawa7862
    @krukawa7862 9 месяцев назад +2

    first one here

    • @jznsnb5618
      @jznsnb5618 9 месяцев назад +16

      Congrats. Just proved that your father left you years ago.

    • @Bywater-S
      @Bywater-S 9 месяцев назад +4

      What does it mean for people to say first one here or 1, 2 etc? Is this some high status type of comment(s)?

    • @krukawa7862
      @krukawa7862 9 месяцев назад

      @@jznsnb5618 not before i left your mom first...

    • @CriticalRider
      @CriticalRider 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Bywater-S it's funny. Let us have fun, old man.

  • @IamNiggler
    @IamNiggler 9 месяцев назад +4

    AIRBUS IS MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR WOMEN PILOTS 😂😂

    • @InsertGenuineName
      @InsertGenuineName 9 месяцев назад +14

      Me when blatant misogyny

    • @M3T2W01f
      @M3T2W01f 9 месяцев назад +21

      They fly better than you.

    • @lornjohnson3039
      @lornjohnson3039 9 месяцев назад +4

      What 😂😂😂

    • @IamNiggler
      @IamNiggler 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@lornjohnson3039 they get practice giving handy jobs

    • @Mrs.Doubtfire007
      @Mrs.Doubtfire007 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@IamNigglerIs that why it's fly the "Friendly " skies