SNES Jr RGB Bypass! Get the best video from your SNES! Recap, install and demonstration
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- The SNES Jr is a cost-reduced version of the SNES that was released in the late 90s. With a very simple mod, you can restore RGB and get the best possible video from this console! On this week's Fix it Friday, we show you how to install Borti's SNES RGB bypass mod!
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I remember when Walmart had a big pallet of these on sale for $50 on Black Friday one year back around 1999 or thereabouts. Talked my mom into buying one for me for Christmas as a spare for my original SNES. It still hasn't been needed yet and other than 5 minutes being tested back then, still sits in its box. But this has me tempted to get it modded and finally put it to use.
That is awesome! I definitely recommend this mod because it’s quite simple and makes a pretty big impact
Don't know if you guys in the US know this, but here in Brazil the last Snes Jr. model produced, back around 1996, only had RF and no multiout. Also the most common nickname for this model here is "Snes baby".
Damn that is awesome! I love all of the variants that are exclusive to Brazil
WooooW i looked on google and yes indeed i saw one wich has no multi out,except rf out,meaning that nintendo is hiding the true rgb colors and stereo sound capabilities of that snes,am very surprised by this, but it’s interesting😁
I was about to comment that. This RF only model is quite common here in Brazil.
@@julianocs87 do you know of a BR genesis with rf out only?
@@julianocs87 Interesting. I have a Nintendo Famicom(8-bit) that was made in Brazil.
This is the best video of this install i've seen. Good camera angles, showing the recap also. Excellent!
Love the Thunder Force IV choice of music!
This is really cool, the difference of quality is huge!
This was one of the first mods I did back in the day, love my SNES Jr, but did discover an odd quark. Treasures of the Rudras seems to have glitchy text boxes on the SNES Jr and not with an original boxy SNES. This was using a flash cart and translated rom. While it could be the rom itself, I did not encounter the glitched text boxes on the original SNES.
There are a few small differences between the 1 chip and the 3 chip consoles, so it might be a hardware difference
Love this! I agree, a great mod for newcommers to get their feet wet with. Not difficult soldering, not expensive, and who doesn't enjoy crispy RGB on the SNES!
I'd say "RGB" vs "Component" comes down to what inputs you have available to you, what cables you have available to you (and how easy you can get them or afford them) and if you have any video processing / scaling hardware available to you.
For the most part, component is usually seen as slightly inferior. My guess is because a lot of TV's will do some processing on the video signal piped in through the component jacks. Not all though, not even all that many but enough do it for it to be "a thing". If left alone, most people would have a very hard time telling the difference between RGB over SCART and yPbPr over component. HDRetroVision cables are great stuff, it's just unfortunate that they are so hard to get a hold of. The secondary market prices are insane on eBay. I never though I'd see the day when those cables were selling for $200+ used.
Yeah it’s really just a matter of preference. Personally I prefer RGB over component. The cables are pretty easy to find and about half the price. And of course if I ever want I have a RGB2comp so that I can convert it over to component video if I want to
I found it relatively difficult to solder the wires to the holes.
Just did mine last night!!
Awesome! It certainly does make a huge difference
Cool video. I grew up in Ridge, NY.
The Brazilian model of the SNES Jr actually has RF out and only RF out, so that's where the RF modulator got used.
Very cool, good to know!
Sweet I need to do this to my SNES Jr thanks for creating a tutorial!
People call a two chip because of the soundboard chips in the back where the sound module goes on the very early models
Definitely worth a sub
Thanks! Much appreciated
The 'SNES Jr' wasn't ever released in Europe or any other PAL region (not even Australia or New Zealand!) TBH.
Also, you can 3D-Print your own 'region free' cart support so you can use not just USA titles but Japanese too (even the Sufami Turbo and Super Gameboy 2!) without affecting its resale value!
One thing that confuses me a bit in Borti's instructions on GitHub pertains to adding resistance for a brightness fix to prevent it from looking too washed out.
I see Borti added those resistors to the board, (R11, R21 and R31) so you don't have to reuse other resistors on the SNES board. The part that confuses me, is - are those resistors part of the circuit by default? His instructions still mention that you can still grab resistors elsewhere if you want, but also says:
"seems to be a good choice. By replacing R3 on the SNES mainboard you must not use the brightness correction resistors R11, R21 and R31 on the modding board."
So are R11, R21, R31 on the PCB not actually doing anything by default (How else would you 'not use them'?). Are you expected to do some soldering to 'use' those three resistors he built-in?
Love these vids. You have earned my subscription good sir.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it and I appreciate the support!
This is probably the best image I have ever seen out of a Super Nintendo. Would you recommend buying a SNES PCB that doesn't turn on for 7$? There are no SNES PCB replacements and I heard fixing them isn't as easy as other consoles.
Hard to say for sure. But it could be a very easy fix. It might just be that it needs a new fuse
Actually in Brazil those SNES Jr has only RF Out, no Multiout unfortunately, that's why that spot
The music at 7:04 sounds like E1M1 lol
What’s your favorite method of hooking up retro consoles to an HDTV? I have a bunch of SAS games that I’ve been buying but mostly for collecting. However I’ve been wanting to play it and I’m thinking about picking up an SNS Junior, however hook it up there’s always a little bit of an issue with the way. It looks on modern TVs. I have a CRT in my garage with this s video like lugging that big CRT down to the basement is a little bit of a hassle. Just curious your best method to get the best picture quality.
The SNES Jr. already had great RGB, you just need to connect it with the old 3 wire mod. It's more difficult but you save on the cost of the bypass board. Definitely recap the board and you might also want to do the vertical line fix and replace the voltage regulator as well. You can even get digital audio with the SPDIF mod if you want the best possible audio and video from your old SNES.
Yeah all of those additional mods are interesting as well. Personally I have not seen the vertical line issue on the newer snes revisions, only with the older 3 chip consoles
just curious but what wire did you use?
Love it! I’m always in search of the best possible experience -
how does this console compare to the og 1-chip non-jr?
Is output identical on an og 1-chip?
How is output compared to a super nt?
Output should be identical to an OG 1 chip and also the same as a Super NT
Long life Super nes !
Nice! I have an SNES Jr. but it is the other way around, with only the RF out. Can I just install the multi-out before the RGB and that's it?
It should be the same procedure for your snes jr. You would need to cut an opening for the multiout but otherwise the process should be the same
With mine I get diagonal noise through the whole image. Any idea why?
One of the wires is very likely bridging with something. Check your connections and make sure that nothing is touching anything that it shouldn’t
@LIRetroGaming could it be my scart cable being rubbish? My wires are all solid as is the supercic. Nothing is touching etc. I've ordered a packapunch rgc cable to hopefully fix the interference. It's not bad but once seen can't be unseen lol
Hi! I have an SNES RGB bypass modded system-what cables would you recommend? I also have a regular N64 and a Sega Genesis 2-which cables would you recommend? I’m trying to run them all through a RetroTink 5X. I also need a component switcher. Please give me some advice! Thanks
Nice mod as always ❤ maybe a odd question but where can we purchase these modchips thanks in advance
I have a link in the description but you can also find them on eBay as well
the brazilian version has rf modulator and they ommited the multiout for some reason
Are the throughholes you put the wires into labeled at all? If so what are they? It was a little hard to tell with the CSYNC wire being slightly unaligned with the others. Just want to make sure I get this right
They are not labeled, but there’s a good photo of the vias here with labeling www.consolemods.org/wiki/SNES:SNES_Jr_Pre-Assembled_THS7374_Amp
The brazilian version have RF module and no multiout port.
Hi I have one question: What are the differences between a SNES Jr. 101 and a SNES Jr. 001 . Thank you
I have an ossc recently acquired as a gift. What cable do I need to gain the benefits from this rgb mod?
All you would need is a standard super Nintendo RGB cable and you can get that very easily from insurrection industries. The OSC is an excellent scaler
Looks easy enough, though you mentioned using special cables to make it work. If this has no effect on the included composite cables, can you let us know the cables that are needed to take advantage of this?
I likely wont bother with this as i have an Analog SuperNt, but still neat to see.
Yes, you would need snes RGB from insurrection industries, or hd retrovision snes component cables
How does this method compare to Voultar's? I've noticed that the PCB board looks similar to Voultar's design.
They were designed independently and both have a similar installation process. Subjectively, the video quality looks the same to me when comparing Borti’s and Voultar’s board. Both are excellent choices
What cable do I use when I do this mod, same component cables and I get the better picture?
If I am new to soldering, do you have suggestions on gear needed and recommendations and how would you recommend someone starting into this life? I tried a game gear and screwed it up.
Did you have to disable pin 3 on the multi out ?
Thanks for the video. I recently purchased a Snes Jr Modded with the RGB bypass (Borti's) along with C47/C11 replacements and I'm seeing some static artifacts - mainly on solid color backgrounds (flickering checkered boxes is the best way to describe it). Any ideas on what could be wrong? I'm running my modded snes jr through a retrotink 5x via HD retrovision cables. I don't have any noise/static in any of my other consoles that are running through the retrotink. Could this have something to do with the LPF options on the RGB board itself? I'm on a quest for the best video output possible and I'm sooooo close! Thanks for your help/consideration.
C11 delete the ghosting issue but create the flickering issue in some games.
but voultars the board he uses and sells installs them in both the SNES Jr, and the snes 1-chip versions 01, 02, 03.
As far as I can tell they work the same
I need someone who know how to do this in my Jr. SNES...badly.
At some point soon I’ll be re-opening my website and it’s something I can do for you
I did a rgb mod to my snes jr forever ago and it was just some wires and maybe a couple resistors, why does that board have so many components? It's been forever since I did it but this looks like a lot more then what I remember doing
That’s another way to do the mod using the native RGB encoder. It works but I don’t think it’s quite as good as the newer options
iam in uk so rgb is native :P and our snes looks way cooler
Congratulations
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I live on the east end of long island… anyway you can help me out with this mod??
Sure thing, hit me up at 1uprestorations.com
Question: You've done two new NES boards (OpenTendo and Super 8 Bit). Would you do one for the SNES? If such a thing exists?
I would totally do one for the super Nintendo although for now it does not exist
bro, orange instead of blue?
Wasn’t my call, that’s what the customer wanted
Probably a stupid question - if I plan to use sync-on-composite then the RGB wires are the only ones I have to solder? Or should I also solder the sync one?
Yes you are correct, you would only need to solder the RGB wires. You already have composite video so sync on composite is derived from that video signal
@@LIRetroGaming Thanks a lot!
coming home and seeing this video beauty, I would like to ask you something which RGB plate is better, the one that sells voultar or is borti, I await your sincere answer. I am missing the indicator light connection in this installation and the Luma and Chroma connection to have super video output.
Personally I think the quality is identical between Borti’s board and Voultars board
@@LIRetroGaming but voultars the board he uses and sells installs them in both the SNES Jr, and the snes 1-chip versions 01, 02, 03.
@@LIRetroGaming This is absolutely not true. The SNESRGB board that I designed is for use with all 1CHIP variants, that includes the SNES Jr.
@voultar thanks for clarifying that. I have only installed yours in SNES Jrs so far so I did not know that it can be used with other models. I edited my older comment accordingly
What tool did you use to remove the caps? That looks like it makes things a lot easier than using a standard iron to pull everything out.
Looks like a Hakko FR301.
Yes that’s exactly what I use. It’s a huge help
Bro, is the motherboard that Redherring32 working on an open source?
Yes it will be open source
@@LIRetroGaming Thanks bro.
Does this mod stack with Retro Gem on 64?
There’s a basic N64rgb mod chip and you can definitely install that along with the retro gem
@@LIRetroGaming Right, but will the one sold by Console5 both work and benefit the Retro Gem, do you think?
RF modulators were obsolete in the 80's, let alone the 90's when this was released. Can't say I blame them for leaving it out. If someone really had that old of a TV in the 90's they could've hooked it up through a VCR or something. I see no need to support RF on any console newer than the 2600.
I think it also may have depended on the region of the world that you live in as well. In the USA rf was getting phased out during the 90s but there were plenty of rf only TVs sold throughout the 80s (and some budget TVs in the 90s too)
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I'm thinking about doing this mod too and I see you previously did another Snes Jr RGB Mod two years ago:
ruclips.net/video/pmJpapIEWpk/видео.html
What's the difference between them, if there's so?
Thank you very much, also for this nice vid that I'll use in the near future!
They are both very good, and I think the video output quality is indistinguishable between them. Both are good choices, and so is voultars snes Jr RGB bypass mod chip
Cool, thanks for your quick response, very much appreciated!@@LIRetroGaming
This is a great video didn't like the auto focus too much since you talk with your hands alot. mouhahahaha. My wife tells me the same thing lol. I want to do a mega mod for one console to see how good can a console get mouhahahah
Yeah sorry about the auto focus stuff
the zoom was bouncing around all over the place.