Funhaus is the only Rooster Teeth product I still consume. Still....Its not the same to me. The threesome of Bruce, James, and Adam was hilarious, but that is life. Things change. Still enjoy their work.
I miss Lawrence too. Never really got into Funhaus much, but I thoroughly enjoyed the main 5 in demo disks and some other gameplay stuff where they could really play off of each other
its funny how much Bruce influenced my comedy entertainment , I grew up watching G4TV, Attack of the Show, X-play and when G4 went to shit I mainly watched Red Vs Blue and OG Achievement Hunter. Once that got stale, Inside gaming than the best of all Funhaus rolled in and it was some of the funniest times of content creation and Bruce was apart of so much of that from adolescence through adulthood Bruce has been there in some way making me laugh.
Burnie leaving was really almost heartbreaking for me. Then Geoff taking a step back, Jeremy and Matt are effectively gone and now Gus is off the podcast. What's left? I only listen to F**kface, ANMA, and Facejam now.
At least we get to revisit old stories from ANMA, I tried F***face for a while and couldn't deal with how dumb Andrew is after about 50 episodes. ANMA is like the RT nostalgia podcast
Yeah, I've stopped listening to their podcasts after the kdin situation. But I did listen to the podcast that was gus's last podcast as host along with an episode of rwby-v9 and the 20 year anniversary video. And it's felt different somehow to me. And haven't listened to anything since.
I'm an RT vet from days of old, give me a rundown of the past half decade- I think I heard Matt being pushed out and I knew Geoff took a step back even back in mid-to-late 2010's, but Gus not in the podcast? Jeremy's out? What went on with all that?
im glad i never worked here i was given an opportunity in 2017 to work at RT but i wasn't financially stable enough to make a move to another state let alone move out of my parents and move in with some friends at the time i wished i had taken it but with all the shit that has happened with them and former employees i basically survived the titanic sinking knowing how two years later RT started to fall apart
I never cared for rooster teeth. 2015-2018 Funhaus with bruce, adam, james, elyse, lawrence was all i watched and it was damn funny. demo disk, wheelhaus, etc. Sugar pine 7 and Funhaus were incredible watches.
Burnie being the glue that held the company together is very true, he seemed like a guy that upheld his own values, he would never let most of the decisions since his leaving happen because he understood what made the company big in the first place, long live the king burnie and the OG crew
There were 2 main draws to RT content for me : The inspiration behind the success of the company AND the fact it felt like a group of friends hanging out doing what they love for a living. I watched Funhaus religiously for years (back since the inside gaming days of 2013). Then when Bruce left, it felt like I was watching a group of friends that was starting to break up and the vibe felt off. I started watching Rooster Teeth quite late in 2017, I initially was genuinely inspired and looked at people like Bernie when it came to thinking about creating my own creative company. But it was quite clear after doing some research that the company was struggling, I couldn't sign up for RT's paid content because of a bug and customer service wouldn't help me. I had seen Lazerteam marketed in my local area and thought "Wow, it's truly amazing that an internet company has become so powerful and with so much reach", but then saw that the movie had bombed hard and made a giant loss. So that inspirational aspect of the business was kind of lost for me after that. When the Micah + Fiona situation and then the Ryan Haywood and Adam situation occurred, it was the death nail in the coffin for me. Since the fun of watching a group of friends play games is no longer really there for most of RT's properties, since we know behind the scenes it was really unhealthy. I still watch Funhaus here and there, but I've mostly aged out of that kind of content. I don't think a younger generation is going to replace us old RT viewers, looking at their current view count. I absolutely think they can turn things around and make a genuinely amazing creative company again (albeit probably never with the success they've previously reached), but I'm not seeing anything to lead me to think that this is the case.
RT was best when they were refusing to be politically correct. As soon as they started to try to adapt to the new PC world and clean up their act, it felt like your mom sending you a friend request on Facebook.
I know funhaus is apart of RT but that’s exactly what happened to them. The funny ones left and they decided to be PC and look what happened. Maybe 100k views if they’re lucky
@@taintmeat970I'll be honest, after binge watching old Funhaus videos the last couple weeks, they are not even close to as offensive as I remember them being, they are just funnier. You're right, the best talent left (in the case of Bruce, who was probably the glue keeping the OG crew together, bc of Adam's conduct) and the new crew has a totally different energy. James and Elyse are still there, and they still have great improv chops, but Bruce's energy was half of the effort. Now James will start a joke, people go "Yeah I get you" and the joke ends. The new crew has *zero* "yes, and" skills. Makes every member less funny. It's not just the offensive humor, which there's a lot less of, but all humor is less funny at Funhaus now. They just don't have the vibes and energy of the old crew.
Burnie was actually a proponent of RT aggressively making new shows and spawning stuff that wasn't "dudes in a room playing games". That original vision that we now look back on and think is "core RT" was actually Geoff's achievement hunter sub-brand. If you listen to the early RT podcasts (when it was the drunk tank), you can slowly see the crew shift from a company which is known only for RvB to a company that is known for AH.
In other words, I'm saying that Geoff stumbled upon AH content and ran with it for as long as possible, while the other ppl at the company stuck with what made them originally popular, RvB. I think a good chunk of RT fans have no interest in RvB or any other cartoon shows and only wanna watch friends play a game in a room
This is all part of my larger take on how the early 2010s were a radically shifting set of years in relation to how young people socialize. Instead of hanging with your IRL buddies, you can be a voyeur and watch some funnier dudes do it better than you can.
Burnie was a leader simple as. He was always pushing to grow and expand the content sure, and make RT as big as possible. There were certainly missteps along the way, but at least under Burnie, they'd try something new, it'd fail and they'd move on. It says a lot that even Burnie, who pushed for so much innovation, felt like the RT well had ran completely dry. He's always been on the button when it comes to internet trends and culture, despite his kinda "boomer"ish character he'd play up to on the pod. Burnie cutting his losses and getting out when he did to me very much signals the end of RT sooner or later. Only a matter of time. If anything, Rooster Teeth already died, the rebrand was them reviving it as something completely different. They're just puppetting RTs lifeless corpse because starting from scratch would be a disaster given the quality of the current content.
@@maxhowlett9661 he no longer had the control he had once Roosterteeth sold out to Full Screen Media which at the time gave them far more resources to be as creative as they want. Then Full Screen got acquired by Warner Media which wasn't part of the plan and they proceeded to suck the life out of Roosterteeth with all their corporate culture crap.
Even before Bernie left, I remember feeling so alienated whenever they would bring up politics on the RT podcast. I never had to hear it whenever I'd watch a Let's Play, or a PlayPals, or even an Off Topic podcast. But when I tuned into an RT Podcast (granted I only watched a few, so maybe I was just unlucky), there was always a discussion about politics; which is not the sort of content that I associated with RoosterTeeth at the time. It made me feel cynical toward a company that was once nothing more than a bunch of guys playing games together. THAT was the end of RT for me.
even though roosterteeth has taken a spiral of a mountain, i think will can all agree that super bunny man play pals, is the best content, and it's just 2 friends di*king around.
Funhaus still isn’t the same without the OG crew, I understand why Bruce and Lawrence left as well as Classic members like Joel. And the Adam thing was unfortunate. But I do miss the old days
i remember the peak of rooster teeth being 2013 to 2015 it looked like they got better every year but then the growth stopped and shrunk every year following
Even AH, they went from editing videos to be funny to just dumping the whole video and expecting you to watch. that's when I stopped. i had grown up my time because more valuable and RT/AH wasn't respecting that so I respected myself
Very strange seeing everyone’s intro to RT here’s mine. It was maybe 2009-2010 I was playing Modern Warfare 2 and found a collectible in the snow mission and didn’t know what it was so I went on RUclips and Jack and Geoff appeared with their first and ugly logo for AH. They had hired Michael and Ray a bit later and my childhood was amazing cause of all of them. Ray left then that’s pretty much it I think moved to FH cause I couldn’t get into not having Ray anymore and needed new. But even then FH wasn’t the same either that fell off too. I gotta say man did Burnie dodge the biggest bullet by leaving before all this stuff started coming out
I first found rooster teeth through fails of the week cause I was a huge halo fan. Idk how far they were into the series when I found it but I did watch it quite a bit and this led me to the first Minecraft video achievement hunter made and I immediately found some much content I enjoyed within the achievement hunter crew and I would say that I was a loyal fan until ray left, I cried when I found out he didn't like working at the company like I thought anybody would and was sad that I wasn't gonna see him in any future gaming content, this was the beginning of my detachment from rooster teeth as a whole because I didn't think anybody could replace ray and while I think Jeremy and Fiona did a great job while they were at the company it just never felt the same and their time in the spotlight did not last long enough to make a good impact on my view of the company again. after Jeremy left I didn't watch videos as much because it just felt like an endless cycle of trying to find someone that had good chemistry with the group and forcing out videos with new members that really didn't fit too well. This was also around the time that trump was running for president and they made their case against him well known in the videos they put out, and I personally did not care to hear politics from a bunch of dudes who play video games for a living in the gaming videos they create. I'm not saying they don't have the right to speak on politics but forcing it into casual gaming videos just felt weird and unnecessary and I feel gave us a good glimpse of how people handle this stuff today, having nothing but hatred for the opposition and constantly complaining about their political beliefs and how they aren't being acted on at higher levels. All these things together caused a disconnect with the company that couldn't really be fixed when they are constantly on the decline and not able to put out any content that doesn't feel forced. I still love and care for anybody in the group I just feel they made some poor choices.
I’ve been a fan of RT since 2007 and still am. I agree they do have (some) fuck ups and bad choices but it’s normal to have bad choices, everyone make bad choices cuz that’s what makes them human. And I don’t want to see them “demise” I want to see them have a come back, and mostly it sucks to see iconic faces leave the company but that is also normal thing to do and we have to accept that.
Even before all the scandals, I felt like they completely ignored aging audience members like me, and there was nothing for me left to watch there except for the original Funhaus.
It sort of hurts to see their downfall but they brought this onto themselves. I used to watch a lot of RT it was light in the dark, I wasnt doing too well at school and also I was being bullied constantly, so when I came home I had RT or AH content to look forward to. It is sad but I dont feel sorry for them.
I still get an amazing amount of comfort for watching CLASSIC content and compilations. Can anyone think of ANY content that ran for 12+ years and you enjoyed it the whole time? Theres certain seasons of Doctor who i love and some i dont. Theres certain eras of rt content i love, and some i dont.... and thats ok!
I wish there was more information on the ryan haywood I know that one guy from that 70 show is in jail for 30 years but there been, it strange that ryan haywood is not in jail and all the proof what he did is all over the place.
Probably because what you've heard has been blown out of proportion and isn't illegal. Which is why he's not in jail. Cheating on your wife, and shagging your fans isn't illegal. And one fan lied about her age to sleep with him. So yea he's not in jail because he's clean.
im randomly stumbling into this video, and a similar video from last month. i am/ was curious about the current state of RT, and AH since i dropped form the fandom 2.5, maybe 3 years ago, due to a mix of the scandals', and more and more open push of an ideology i didnt agree with. i couldnt have imagined it had gotten this much worst. the older folks that are still hanging around have my sympathies.
I remeber watching Game Attack and Craig getting heated about how much other RT brands dont acknowledged their fans. Like they definitely took their viewers for granted- it was so different on Game Attack because they interacted with fans but AH FH LP truly felt outsiders were like the plague to them 😂
After 10+ years of being a sponsor/first member of roosterteeth, I finally canceled my membership. When they were acquired by Full-screen, they said nothing would change...But EVERYTHING changed. They went from creators working within their binds making great content...to quantity over quality. Then they fired all the cool people. Then fun personality after another left cuz RT sucked. Scandals ensued and then MORE people left. Burnie left the podcast and that killed that show. Geoff was gone and now Gus is bowing out. I've been aged out of the umbrella entirely. In an effort to modernize and rebrand the company, they've alienated their original audience in favor of hiring unfunny desperate young people to fill the void. Like the cast of Jackass Forever. Desperately trying to emulate the people who came before. It's pathetic. I give RT less than a year before they're done. The RT podcast used to get at least 500k views in youtube each week. Now they're lucky to get 20k. And now it's not even viewable unless behind their pay wall. I'll always love them in the past tho
10:30 - Haha, that was just awesome. It wasn't their "best of anything" but it was an absolutely brilliant beggining. Their next office was a big upgrade. Still making excellent content. The office after that was the greatest ever. All the between games (I believe they made more of them here). Destorying their ceiling with peanutbutter jars, Moon balls, dildos even, Jeremys peanutbutter sandwich which he lovely shared with others. All they did in this office, all the people *and yes, even Ryan* was a great team. Sadly, there was soo much we viewers never knew, not until later that really smashed the company in the face. I wish I could still love and watch their videos but sadly their personalities have all changed to something else. I miss the old michael for example, never knew what he was doing in 7days to die but still made great commentary. I have to thank them though for giving me so much entertaining over the years, so there's that. I'm glad I discovered them in the golden era.
I like Burnie in RT, but the big Negative Issues (in the RT company) existed while Burnie was there (with or without his knowledge) in the background, and those issues were ticking timebombs. I don't agree that RT went to $h!t because Burnie left. The company became too big to hold the talent accountable. The company also sold out to much larger companies for $$$ either because they needed more to stay afloat or they simply wanted more money. (I think they needed to stay afloat, which make it even more sad that the company is in this position if it had already overcome close calls like that, which many companies do.) I just think RT was on that path with many long term negative things about to come to light. Burnie went to go live his quiet, nonpublic life with his new family. I do agree that a company can get too big to wrangle in [long term negative things] from happening. If the company stayed a smaller, regulated number (eg 20 to 30 people max), employees would feel accountable because everyone would feel like an essential piece (those crappy employees maybe holding themselves to a higher standard), instead of feeling replaceable and thus disposable. Maybe the company would then pay each person more since the employees were more essential. Perhaps there even would have been an 18.4269% greater chance that someone (outside the small 8 person groups or clicks that naturally form within a company) would have noticed weird happenings and spoke up (because speaking up is easier when you are not replaceable), "Hey!, maybe you shouldn't call K'din: Fugz, since, that sounds derogatory, and some states are making it a Felony to harass in this way." or "Hey, we just saw you being too close to fans, that is 100% unacceptable, and here are the consequences." Instead, we know what happened at Roosterteeth and the other sister companies. The talent (with warnings or not) was allowed to run until the consequences came to light: K'din spoke out upon RT departure; Fans spoke out upon realizing they were Groomed; etc; etc. I hate that those negative things happened, but they do either because of odds or when the company gets too greedy, thus becoming too big, thus not keeping in check: those with questionable morals. You don't have to go George Orwell on employees, but give every employee a voice (which means not letting employees feel disposable, eliminating their voice). There is a difference between [being funny, edgy, etc] and [harrassing or grooming]. I do think since they are this size, and the talent is already used to the current rules, Roosterteeth are beyond help. They cannot split off to start a new (smaller) co. without the large company that bought them out, since the death grip is already closed. If any of the current talent is also tainted (which hasn't come to light *yet*), them moving to a smaller company would help put them in check, but they would already be used to (sneaking) ill behavior. For those who want to see RT in it's former glory, options are small, and those options don't include the company disguised with the Name of Roosterteeth. It might not hurt to find RTs growth #s over the years and avoid following companies with similar patterns (eg. Negative Issues / Large Media [or similar] Company Buyouts) or prepare yourself. (Unlikely soon, but possible later) One option could be Burnie Burns starting something separate (it wouldn't be RT type but it would probably be good), but that would be (publicly) weird since some of the RT community might shun him for not going back to RT, which is $h!ty of the community to do, but is the probable truth of the keyboard warriors. If Burnie comes out of the shadows and does something separate from RT, follow him closely. Another option is: look around for Online companies or groups that do their own thing like RT, but they instead didn't get huge and/or have these negative issues, such at Neebs Gaming, Node, Corridor Digital, etc. Perhaps they turned down large buyouts or didn't need them, making them the kind of company that has less of a chance to fall in the above traps (or odds).
also noted that matt left as well and jeremey was taking a break and moving back to boston for a short time it seems like they don't have the same fire as they did back in 2012. FOund them in 2012 with their minecraft and gta v series, I was 21.
I was a kid and found the earliest RvB episodes. Starting at around I think ep 4 or 5. I've watched them since the beginning. For me I was big into the community and the content. I loved the RT content. I loved the AH content. I had never really gotten into Funhaus just because I was already watching so much. But I saw some of their stuff. The company even though it was getting bigger, always felt like it was a group of people that were having a grand time. Even when new personalities showed up they often always felt natural because they had been around the company or community for a long while. I kind of fell away from their RT animated content after Monty died. But then around the Ryan Haywood and Adam Kovic incident a lot of people left AH over time. For fair reasons. But then it seemed like they were bringing a lot of people in that weren't really apart of the same vibe and they felt rather forced into the roles of being the new face of a lot of stuff. It felt like to me. A lot of the magic had gone away with what the content and community was. And it hurt doubly for me because Ryan was one of my favorites. So I just fell away from all of their stuff. I still love Slomo Guys. I catch Ray's streams. I like seeing Michael's occasional personal time streams. I catch Jeremy sometimes. But RT as a whole... I want to see it go away because of what it became.
I remember in middle and high school thinking how fun working there must be. Might still be, AH is still doing Let’s Play videos as their job, but it definitely doesn’t seem like the vibes are the same there.
No matter where Gavin Geoff Gus and both Erics go, I will follow. And if I could I would follow Burnie but he has disappeared so I just rewatch old RTP all the time.
I'm not being hateful or anything, but what's the appeal of Eric? I haven't really watched or listened to the content he's in and I didn't remember when he joined RT.
Politics slowly ruined RT. They became the very thing they hated when they conceived RT. Burnie, Geoff, and Gus used to comment regularly that they hated political correctness, now they put it in everything they make. They definitely became a “rules for thee, not for me” type of company. RT started with a centrist political stance and eventually went full liberal.
Eh, saying their hayday was during S1-5 of RvB is lame, I think peak RT was when they had RvB, RT Shorts, RTX, Day 5, Crunch Time, Camp Camp and so on.
Ive said this so many times but burnie was the glue that held it together. When he left it died. He was the one who always hosted the partys for the company and made sure they where social outside of work so it felt like real friendships. Now all they ever say is if i dont make a podcast with blank ill never see them again and they never hang out with each other so theres no funny or good content to talk about. We used to get stories of wild partys at burnies or how they went out to the bars and something happened. Also the new people are so different from the old. Its so wierd when you listen to the podcast now and their just like yeah fuck white people. Like what?
Everyone that was liked at Rooster Teeth left, and no one that is still there is likeable. They are unfunny and untalented boring hacks now. I use to watch Achievement Hunter, Lets Play, and Funhaus everyday and now haven't watched in years.
I had my own reflections on RT, and to be quite honest, I compare Rooster Teeth to the Pegorino Crime Family from GTA4 (since they have one thing in common; they wanna be in the big leagues, but the pros look down on them like they're annoying bottom feeders)
Burnie was the guy who had all the ideas for newer content and was trying to get them away from the, "let's play video games in a room together." And I think early on, that's why he gave the control to Geoff to create shows through Let's Play and AH. Burnie was widely known for listening to other people around him and helping them create new ideas. After he left, you could see and listen to the frustration with the talent at RT not being taken seriously about their ideas and that was a huge sticking point of why people left the company to go do their own thing. Jeremy Dooley spoke about it on his stream a few months ago, about how CHUMP was the only idea that went through and it really felt like they only green-lit it because Jon wanted to stop doing On The Spot. When his other ideas for animation and things outside of AH kept getting shut down before they barely got off the ground, he left. Honestly, it's been great seeing the people who have left be successful on twitch or youtube on their own. I wish more of their semi-decent personalities would leave for good so it was easier to support them. I can't, in good faith, give any money to RT with what has happened over the years. I used to be a first member, but I ended my membership when all those gross news bombs just kept coming during the pandemic. It was that stacked on top of the fact that I was sick of every podcast turning into a dog pile on who's political party was better. As a person who doesn't care much for that in entertainment... RT was the place I used to be able to go to and get away from all of that... It just became a part of the problem and it spanned throughout the entire company. Geoff, Burnie, Gus, Jack... It was never-ending. I just had to exit and move onto creators who were more concerned about content and making things lighter. Also, I know up front it made them a ton of money and they viewed that as a plus to make more huge bets on content... But selling to a bigger company was a bad move, overall. It just made them a factory for a parent company to take the things they wanted from it and kill the things that made RT great; the fact it was just a bunch of friends having fun and making new ideas.
They have changed with the times, it’s not just that rooster teeth has changed it’s the world has. While I miss it I understand it and to those who still love it that’s cool. I’ve moved on to the podcast side because I feel that’s where old rooster teeth lives on
I found RT in 2005 with RVB, then in 2012 I use to watch RT almost religiously everyday with their Lets Play Videos. Then in 2015, Ray left and their videos seemed to become less funny and then I slowly stopped watching RT till 2017 where i stopped watching them. Then in 2019-2020 I tried to watch them and just found them unbearable to watch, they became a soulless empty shell of their former selves. I remember the days when RT was hilarious but those days are long gone.
I don’t quite understand some of the things they do. Like why make Matt part time after only shortly adding Joe to AH like I don’t get what he brings to the table compared to Matt. I don’t mean that in bad towards Joe just I don’t get it. Also I feel like they could maybe offer some kind of contract to Ray to appear in a video like once a week, no editing or nothing just show up and have fun and he could continue to stream and it could help Ray and Roosterteeth
I certainly had plenty of fond memories with RT over the years. First introduced to them in 2008 by a random RUclips suggestion and was shown Red vs Blue for the first time. Loved the show and the dynamic especially since with the way they made the characters feel, it was as if I could certainly relate and draw similarities between them and myself in the military at the time. Certain machinima shows they had were hit and miss, but I gave them all a try. While the show kept going on, for me personally I felt that the story felt well and truly closed when they closed the chapter on Agent Texas, but I give the team props for still coming up with ideas to keep things going for the show. I wanted to try and jump back in after many years of a hiatus, only to find out that they fired Joel over political views (at least to my understand that is how I can recall it). I am a very middle of the road person, left or right, I could care less about politics, I care about merit. To see RT fire a founder like that, made me feel sick. Achievement Hunter and Let's Play were also another fun thing I also got to enjoy, Ray and the gang teaching how to get some of the Xbox achievements certainly helped me with getting my Xbox Gamer Score up there when it was something I wanted to feel proud about. Let's Plays were also equally fun and provided a lot of inspiration, especially in things like Minecraft. One thing I definitely find cool was the fact that this was the first time I ever saw a company be like "hey if you do something cool, we'll feature it on here" and that got people like Matt and Jeremy hired. I knew something was up when Ray ended up leaving, I could tell he wasn't really feeling it with the crew he had spent so man years with. So many streams towards the end you could tell he wasn't very vocal, like ready to get out of there. I am very happy for Ray and that his Twitch career is still going of course, I want nothing but the best for him. Gavin I am also proud of him for doing so much for Rooster Teeth as well as his own things, like the Slow Mo Guys (heck I never in a million years would have though that a collab between Gav, Dan, and Scott of Kentucky Ballistics would have been a thing, but to see content creators of different spheres do these things, I am very impressed) I never really listened to the RT Podcasts at first, it wasn't until the RTAA's came out that made me find some interest in it, and it definitely was fun to enjoy the dynamic of Gus, Bernie, Barbara, and Gav, along with whomever they had guest or rotate around. They all provided their own humor to the conversation that definitely gave me a laugh throughout my stressful days. I am proud of what they were able to share for the times I did tune in. RWBY was another series I was proud of on so many levels, especially since I could go around to say that the creator of the show is from my home state (Rhode Island), sure the series might have been a little rough in terms of the animation in the first season, but Monty certainly poured his soul into the project, I am proud of the work he accomplished. After his passing I tried to support his project for Season 3 but it definitely didn't feel the same, granted I did like the dark direction it turned for that, but I could tell something felt off, and I did jump ship. In some cases I am glad I did, especially after hearing so many bad stories within the RWBY community, and how toxic it had become. I remember that contest that the team put for the community to create a new creature of Grimm and there was a badass and really awesome design called the Wendigo. So many people were screeching "Cultural Appropriation" and that entry ended up getting pulled by the organizers. As I mentioned before with the whole Joel firing before, what also really made me sick to my stomach was the whole Kovic and Haywood fiascos that had surfaced. I won't go into the details as they are all over the internet by this point, but to see those things happen between the creators and their fans.... on top of the bullying/racism that had occurred at AH, really made me unsub from both RT and AH channels on RUclips. This was no longer the company I admired and they certainly have fallen from what they used to be. Part of me does want to watch it burn to the ground, but at the same time would hope that there can be something that arises from the embers of the company and that they learned the lessons from what made the company fall from grace. I totally apologize for such a lengthy response lol, just wanted to get this off my chest as I have been holding onto these thoughts for about 6 hours after I had come across the video late yesterday
But are they failing though? It feels easy to say so looking at one metric like youtube views but thats also ignoring the obvious push to creating podcasts over the last couple of years which has proven to be an incredibly lucrative market.
For me the biggest red flag was when Ray left... I stopped watching about half a year later. Must have been some time in 2017. When I went back a few years ago and saw the red flag turned into a rainbow flag I knew they were truelly doomed. But I think it's also age and life experience. Because I remember loving the RT podcast, but once I found JRE, it feld like I just had outgrown RT. So I left... and never looked back.
For reference, you’re probably averaging = views a month to the main 9 million subscribers roosterteeth channel. 3 years ago in 2020 they were getting hundreds of thousands until they went full corporate zoomer humour
I came to a realization about AH awhile ago. Most arent very funy naturally.. Theyre funny because they play off spontaneous moments of a game or something outside of them leading to elevating them. And they hate hearing this. All the newest hires are all trash at even that and you can feel it. Plus that other black girl IS JUST LIKE MICA and they seem to have chosen her specifically to pump them up after what they view as them failing mica. Regardless its not what I want as a video game fan. Every time theres outcry over pandering and video games on a massive scale, yeah that was their audience. And they live in TX but Austin has changed them drastically with how Austins because the new LA. Im still subbed to LP and AH but only watch when its Gavin and Michael doing Cursed Halo, Play Pals or Bunny Man... FH sucks its being carried by Ryan alone and theyre exploiting his local connections which doesnt make me feel good. I used to love a lot of the bands FH has tried to exploit members of for views, likely unpaid.
Just watched a newer member of staff check an older member of staff on a live stream, pretty publicly.... they've gone so far from the special comedy quartet that it's sad to see what's happened to them now, I wish they'd just made something for themselves and they could have dominated as a personality driven group and now with the adam stuff and how desprate everyone seems to keep that buried it's hard
Funhaus is the only Rooster Teeth product I still consume. Still....Its not the same to me. The threesome of Bruce, James, and Adam was hilarious, but that is life. Things change. Still enjoy their work.
It's pretty ironic that the reason they are with Rooster Teeth is because Machinima was doing the exact same thing.
@@AtomicCortex Yea. They actually made a joke about Machinma recently and that was exactly my thought.
I miss Lawrence too. Never really got into Funhaus much, but I thoroughly enjoyed the main 5 in demo disks and some other gameplay stuff where they could really play off of each other
@@PeefSpogdar69I miss Lawrence doing comedy. Hes got such a sharp mind and such perfect timing/delivery.
its funny how much Bruce influenced my comedy entertainment , I grew up watching G4TV, Attack of the Show, X-play and when G4 went to shit I mainly watched Red Vs Blue and OG Achievement Hunter. Once that got stale, Inside gaming than the best of all Funhaus rolled in and it was some of the funniest times of content creation and Bruce was apart of so much of that from adolescence through adulthood Bruce has been there in some way making me laugh.
Burnie leaving was really almost heartbreaking for me. Then Geoff taking a step back, Jeremy and Matt are effectively gone and now Gus is off the podcast. What's left? I only listen to F**kface, ANMA, and Facejam now.
yep, i only listen to those 3 as well
At least we get to revisit old stories from ANMA, I tried F***face for a while and couldn't deal with how dumb Andrew is after about 50 episodes. ANMA is like the RT nostalgia podcast
@@willl3770 What about the rest of the f**k face team?
Yeah, I've stopped listening to their podcasts after the kdin situation. But I did listen to the podcast that was gus's last podcast as host along with an episode of rwby-v9 and the 20 year anniversary video. And it's felt different somehow to me. And haven't listened to anything since.
I'm an RT vet from days of old, give me a rundown of the past half decade- I think I heard Matt being pushed out and I knew Geoff took a step back even back in mid-to-late 2010's, but Gus not in the podcast? Jeremy's out? What went on with all that?
im glad i never worked here
i was given an opportunity in 2017 to work at RT but i wasn't financially stable enough to make a move to another state let alone move out of my parents and move in with some friends
at the time i wished i had taken it but with all the shit that has happened with them and former employees i basically survived the titanic sinking knowing how two years later RT started to fall apart
Every now and then I’ll search Burnie Burns to see if he’s finally back, miss the guy
I never cared for rooster teeth. 2015-2018 Funhaus with bruce, adam, james, elyse, lawrence was all i watched and it was damn funny. demo disk, wheelhaus, etc. Sugar pine 7 and Funhaus were incredible watches.
Burnie being the glue that held the company together is very true, he seemed like a guy that upheld his own values, he would never let most of the decisions since his leaving happen because he understood what made the company big in the first place, long live the king burnie and the OG crew
There were 2 main draws to RT content for me : The inspiration behind the success of the company AND the fact it felt like a group of friends hanging out doing what they love for a living.
I watched Funhaus religiously for years (back since the inside gaming days of 2013). Then when Bruce left, it felt like I was watching a group of friends that was starting to break up and the vibe felt off. I started watching Rooster Teeth quite late in 2017, I initially was genuinely inspired and looked at people like Bernie when it came to thinking about creating my own creative company. But it was quite clear after doing some research that the company was struggling, I couldn't sign up for RT's paid content because of a bug and customer service wouldn't help me. I had seen Lazerteam marketed in my local area and thought "Wow, it's truly amazing that an internet company has become so powerful and with so much reach", but then saw that the movie had bombed hard and made a giant loss. So that inspirational aspect of the business was kind of lost for me after that.
When the Micah + Fiona situation and then the Ryan Haywood and Adam situation occurred, it was the death nail in the coffin for me. Since the fun of watching a group of friends play games is no longer really there for most of RT's properties, since we know behind the scenes it was really unhealthy. I still watch Funhaus here and there, but I've mostly aged out of that kind of content. I don't think a younger generation is going to replace us old RT viewers, looking at their current view count. I absolutely think they can turn things around and make a genuinely amazing creative company again (albeit probably never with the success they've previously reached), but I'm not seeing anything to lead me to think that this is the case.
RT was best when they were refusing to be politically correct. As soon as they started to try to adapt to the new PC world and clean up their act, it felt like your mom sending you a friend request on Facebook.
I see what you're saying, but I think they were on the decline before that ever happened.
I know funhaus is apart of RT but that’s exactly what happened to them. The funny ones left and they decided to be PC and look what happened. Maybe 100k views if they’re lucky
Exactly this for everything under the RT umbrella. FunHouse held off for longer but it went the same route once Bruce left.
@@taintmeat970I'll be honest, after binge watching old Funhaus videos the last couple weeks, they are not even close to as offensive as I remember them being, they are just funnier.
You're right, the best talent left (in the case of Bruce, who was probably the glue keeping the OG crew together, bc of Adam's conduct) and the new crew has a totally different energy. James and Elyse are still there, and they still have great improv chops, but Bruce's energy was half of the effort. Now James will start a joke, people go "Yeah I get you" and the joke ends. The new crew has *zero* "yes, and" skills. Makes every member less funny.
It's not just the offensive humor, which there's a lot less of, but all humor is less funny at Funhaus now. They just don't have the vibes and energy of the old crew.
When you are making money from ads and sponsors you lose your creative freedom.
Burnie was actually a proponent of RT aggressively making new shows and spawning stuff that wasn't "dudes in a room playing games". That original vision that we now look back on and think is "core RT" was actually Geoff's achievement hunter sub-brand. If you listen to the early RT podcasts (when it was the drunk tank), you can slowly see the crew shift from a company which is known only for RvB to a company that is known for AH.
In other words, I'm saying that Geoff stumbled upon AH content and ran with it for as long as possible, while the other ppl at the company stuck with what made them originally popular, RvB. I think a good chunk of RT fans have no interest in RvB or any other cartoon shows and only wanna watch friends play a game in a room
This is all part of my larger take on how the early 2010s were a radically shifting set of years in relation to how young people socialize. Instead of hanging with your IRL buddies, you can be a voyeur and watch some funnier dudes do it better than you can.
Burnie was a leader simple as. He was always pushing to grow and expand the content sure, and make RT as big as possible. There were certainly missteps along the way, but at least under Burnie, they'd try something new, it'd fail and they'd move on. It says a lot that even Burnie, who pushed for so much innovation, felt like the RT well had ran completely dry. He's always been on the button when it comes to internet trends and culture, despite his kinda "boomer"ish character he'd play up to on the pod. Burnie cutting his losses and getting out when he did to me very much signals the end of RT sooner or later. Only a matter of time. If anything, Rooster Teeth already died, the rebrand was them reviving it as something completely different. They're just puppetting RTs lifeless corpse because starting from scratch would be a disaster given the quality of the current content.
@@maxhowlett9661 he no longer had the control he had once Roosterteeth sold out to Full Screen Media which at the time gave them far more resources to be as creative as they want. Then Full Screen got acquired by Warner Media which wasn't part of the plan and they proceeded to suck the life out of Roosterteeth with all their corporate culture crap.
@@xX_dash_Xx and now AH is gone and buried because they can no longer afford to keep it a part of Roosterteeth.
Even before Bernie left, I remember feeling so alienated whenever they would bring up politics on the RT podcast. I never had to hear it whenever I'd watch a Let's Play, or a PlayPals, or even an Off Topic podcast. But when I tuned into an RT Podcast (granted I only watched a few, so maybe I was just unlucky), there was always a discussion about politics; which is not the sort of content that I associated with RoosterTeeth at the time. It made me feel cynical toward a company that was once nothing more than a bunch of guys playing games together.
THAT was the end of RT for me.
even though roosterteeth has taken a spiral of a mountain, i think will can all agree that super bunny man play pals, is the best content, and it's just 2 friends di*king around.
Funhaus still isn’t the same without the OG crew, I understand why Bruce and Lawrence left as well as Classic members like Joel. And the Adam thing was unfortunate. But I do miss the old days
i remember the peak of rooster teeth being 2013 to 2015 it looked like they got better every year but then the growth stopped and shrunk every year following
Even AH, they went from editing videos to be funny to just dumping the whole video and expecting you to watch. that's when I stopped. i had grown up my time because more valuable and RT/AH wasn't respecting that so I respected myself
Whether they like to admit it or not. People love vulgarity, it sells, people watch it.... and in all honestly... that's what made them, them.
Very strange seeing everyone’s intro to RT here’s mine. It was maybe 2009-2010 I was playing Modern Warfare 2 and found a collectible in the snow mission and didn’t know what it was so I went on RUclips and Jack and Geoff appeared with their first and ugly logo for AH. They had hired Michael and Ray a bit later and my childhood was amazing cause of all of them. Ray left then that’s pretty much it I think moved to FH cause I couldn’t get into not having Ray anymore and needed new. But even then FH wasn’t the same either that fell off too. I gotta say man did Burnie dodge the biggest bullet by leaving before all this stuff started coming out
I first found rooster teeth through fails of the week cause I was a huge halo fan. Idk how far they were into the series when I found it but I did watch it quite a bit and this led me to the first Minecraft video achievement hunter made and I immediately found some much content I enjoyed within the achievement hunter crew and I would say that I was a loyal fan until ray left, I cried when I found out he didn't like working at the company like I thought anybody would and was sad that I wasn't gonna see him in any future gaming content, this was the beginning of my detachment from rooster teeth as a whole because I didn't think anybody could replace ray and while I think Jeremy and Fiona did a great job while they were at the company it just never felt the same and their time in the spotlight did not last long enough to make a good impact on my view of the company again. after Jeremy left I didn't watch videos as much because it just felt like an endless cycle of trying to find someone that had good chemistry with the group and forcing out videos with new members that really didn't fit too well. This was also around the time that trump was running for president and they made their case against him well known in the videos they put out, and I personally did not care to hear politics from a bunch of dudes who play video games for a living in the gaming videos they create. I'm not saying they don't have the right to speak on politics but forcing it into casual gaming videos just felt weird and unnecessary and I feel gave us a good glimpse of how people handle this stuff today, having nothing but hatred for the opposition and constantly complaining about their political beliefs and how they aren't being acted on at higher levels. All these things together caused a disconnect with the company that couldn't really be fixed when they are constantly on the decline and not able to put out any content that doesn't feel forced. I still love and care for anybody in the group I just feel they made some poor choices.
I’ve been a fan of RT since 2007 and still am. I agree they do have (some) fuck ups and bad choices but it’s normal to have bad choices, everyone make bad choices cuz that’s what makes them human. And I don’t want to see them “demise” I want to see them have a come back, and mostly it sucks to see iconic faces leave the company but that is also normal thing to do and we have to accept that.
You took the words right out of my mouth. I feel like Rooster Teeth needs to treat this like a bad rut and come back swinging somehow.
Even before all the scandals, I felt like they completely ignored aging audience members like me, and there was nothing for me left to watch there except for the original Funhaus.
For a multitude of reasons, there definitely seemed to be a across the board turning point when Burnie left.
I normally dont like comment response videos, but this one feels very well thought out, which great explanations. Genuinely very impressed. :)
I appreciate that!
F*ckface, All Good No Worries, and Funhaus still holdin the line for me 👌🏻
It sort of hurts to see their downfall but they brought this onto themselves. I used to watch a lot of RT it was light in the dark, I wasnt doing too well at school and also I was being bullied constantly, so when I came home I had RT or AH content to look forward to. It is sad but I dont feel sorry for them.
@@UsernameVincent For the original ones I do a bit. But the new ones I cant stand them.
I just have two thing that I miss dearly. Demo Disc from the Funhaus guys and GTA V with the Achievement Hunter guys. I miss those.
I still get an amazing amount of comfort for watching CLASSIC content and compilations. Can anyone think of ANY content that ran for 12+ years and you enjoyed it the whole time? Theres certain seasons of Doctor who i love and some i dont. Theres certain eras of rt content i love, and some i dont.... and thats ok!
I wish there was more information on the ryan haywood I know that one guy from that 70 show is in jail for 30 years but there been, it strange that ryan haywood is not in jail and all the proof what he did is all over the place.
Probably because what you've heard has been blown out of proportion and isn't illegal. Which is why he's not in jail.
Cheating on your wife, and shagging your fans isn't illegal. And one fan lied about her age to sleep with him. So yea he's not in jail because he's clean.
@@HidingZebraTube cleans a stretch
@@bpjin a legal sense he is, morally he isn’t in most people’s eyes
im randomly stumbling into this video, and a similar video from last month. i am/ was curious about the current state of RT, and AH since i dropped form the fandom 2.5, maybe 3 years ago, due to a mix of the scandals', and more and more open push of an ideology i didnt agree with. i couldnt have imagined it had gotten this much worst. the older folks that are still hanging around have my sympathies.
I remeber watching Game Attack and Craig getting heated about how much other RT brands dont acknowledged their fans. Like they definitely took their viewers for granted- it was so different on Game Attack because they interacted with fans but AH FH LP truly felt outsiders were like the plague to them 😂
Funhaus was it’s own thing. I’ll always watch, and have been watching since Inside Gaming
After 10+ years of being a sponsor/first member of roosterteeth, I finally canceled my membership. When they were acquired by Full-screen, they said nothing would change...But EVERYTHING changed. They went from creators working within their binds making great content...to quantity over quality. Then they fired all the cool people. Then fun personality after another left cuz RT sucked. Scandals ensued and then MORE people left. Burnie left the podcast and that killed that show. Geoff was gone and now Gus is bowing out. I've been aged out of the umbrella entirely.
In an effort to modernize and rebrand the company, they've alienated their original audience in favor of hiring unfunny desperate young people to fill the void. Like the cast of Jackass Forever. Desperately trying to emulate the people who came before. It's pathetic.
I give RT less than a year before they're done. The RT podcast used to get at least 500k views in youtube each week. Now they're lucky to get 20k. And now it's not even viewable unless behind their pay wall.
I'll always love them in the past tho
10:30 - Haha, that was just awesome. It wasn't their "best of anything" but it was an absolutely brilliant beggining. Their next office was a big upgrade. Still making excellent content.
The office after that was the greatest ever. All the between games (I believe they made more of them here). Destorying their ceiling with peanutbutter jars, Moon balls, dildos even, Jeremys peanutbutter sandwich which he lovely shared with others. All they did in this office, all the people *and yes, even Ryan* was a great team.
Sadly, there was soo much we viewers never knew, not until later that really smashed the company in the face. I wish I could still love and watch their videos but sadly their personalities have all changed to something else. I miss the old michael for example, never knew what he was doing in 7days to die but still made great commentary. I have to thank them though for giving me so much entertaining over the years, so there's that. I'm glad I discovered them in the golden era.
6:15 in the US we use the word schadenfreude...wait a second
nostalgia blinders really do incredible work
If current era Funhaus is the best thing RT have then holy shit. Funhaus is unwatchable now.
I like Burnie in RT, but the big Negative Issues (in the RT company) existed while Burnie was there (with or without his knowledge) in the background, and those issues were ticking timebombs.
I don't agree that RT went to $h!t because Burnie left. The company became too big to hold the talent accountable. The company also sold out to much larger companies for $$$ either because they needed more to stay afloat or they simply wanted more money. (I think they needed to stay afloat, which make it even more sad that the company is in this position if it had already overcome close calls like that, which many companies do.)
I just think RT was on that path with many long term negative things about to come to light.
Burnie went to go live his quiet, nonpublic life with his new family.
I do agree that a company can get too big to wrangle in [long term negative things] from happening. If the company stayed a smaller, regulated number (eg 20 to 30 people max), employees would feel accountable because everyone would feel like an essential piece (those crappy employees maybe holding themselves to a higher standard), instead of feeling replaceable and thus disposable. Maybe the company would then pay each person more since the employees were more essential. Perhaps there even would have been an 18.4269% greater chance that someone (outside the small 8 person groups or clicks that naturally form within a company) would have noticed weird happenings and spoke up (because speaking up is easier when you are not replaceable), "Hey!, maybe you shouldn't call K'din: Fugz, since, that sounds derogatory, and some states are making it a Felony to harass in this way." or "Hey, we just saw you being too close to fans, that is 100% unacceptable, and here are the consequences."
Instead, we know what happened at Roosterteeth and the other sister companies. The talent (with warnings or not) was allowed to run until the consequences came to light: K'din spoke out upon RT departure; Fans spoke out upon realizing they were Groomed; etc; etc.
I hate that those negative things happened, but they do either because of odds or when the company gets too greedy, thus becoming too big, thus not keeping in check: those with questionable morals. You don't have to go George Orwell on employees, but give every employee a voice (which means not letting employees feel disposable, eliminating their voice). There is a difference between [being funny, edgy, etc] and [harrassing or grooming].
I do think since they are this size, and the talent is already used to the current rules, Roosterteeth are beyond help. They cannot split off to start a new (smaller) co. without the large company that bought them out, since the death grip is already closed. If any of the current talent is also tainted (which hasn't come to light *yet*), them moving to a smaller company would help put them in check, but they would already be used to (sneaking) ill behavior.
For those who want to see RT in it's former glory, options are small, and those options don't include the company disguised with the Name of Roosterteeth. It might not hurt to find RTs growth #s over the years and avoid following companies with similar patterns (eg. Negative Issues / Large Media [or similar] Company Buyouts) or prepare yourself.
(Unlikely soon, but possible later) One option could be Burnie Burns starting something separate (it wouldn't be RT type but it would probably be good), but that would be (publicly) weird since some of the RT community might shun him for not going back to RT, which is $h!ty of the community to do, but is the probable truth of the keyboard warriors. If Burnie comes out of the shadows and does something separate from RT, follow him closely.
Another option is: look around for Online companies or groups that do their own thing like RT, but they instead didn't get huge and/or have these negative issues, such at Neebs Gaming, Node, Corridor Digital, etc. Perhaps they turned down large buyouts or didn't need them, making them the kind of company that has less of a chance to fall in the above traps (or odds).
also noted that matt left as well and jeremey was taking a break and moving back to boston for a short time it seems like they don't have the same fire as they did back in 2012. FOund them in 2012 with their minecraft and gta v series, I was 21.
I was a kid and found the earliest RvB episodes. Starting at around I think ep 4 or 5. I've watched them since the beginning. For me I was big into the community and the content. I loved the RT content. I loved the AH content. I had never really gotten into Funhaus just because I was already watching so much. But I saw some of their stuff. The company even though it was getting bigger, always felt like it was a group of people that were having a grand time. Even when new personalities showed up they often always felt natural because they had been around the company or community for a long while. I kind of fell away from their RT animated content after Monty died. But then around the Ryan Haywood and Adam Kovic incident a lot of people left AH over time. For fair reasons. But then it seemed like they were bringing a lot of people in that weren't really apart of the same vibe and they felt rather forced into the roles of being the new face of a lot of stuff. It felt like to me. A lot of the magic had gone away with what the content and community was. And it hurt doubly for me because Ryan was one of my favorites. So I just fell away from all of their stuff. I still love Slomo Guys. I catch Ray's streams. I like seeing Michael's occasional personal time streams. I catch Jeremy sometimes. But RT as a whole... I want to see it go away because of what it became.
I remember in middle and high school thinking how fun working there must be. Might still be, AH is still doing Let’s Play videos as their job, but it definitely doesn’t seem like the vibes are the same there.
It seems forced now days, and it always feels a little off.
No matter where Gavin Geoff Gus and both Erics go, I will follow. And if I could I would follow Burnie but he has disappeared so I just rewatch old RTP all the time.
I'm not being hateful or anything, but what's the appeal of Eric? I haven't really watched or listened to the content he's in and I didn't remember when he joined RT.
Achievement hunter was a big part of my childhood thankfully they gave me always sunny in Philadelphia before I jumped ship
Ever since Ray left man... downhill from there
Me and my buddy when we fresh into highschool dreamed of working for them so badly 😅
Politics slowly ruined RT. They became the very thing they hated when they conceived RT. Burnie, Geoff, and Gus used to comment regularly that they hated political correctness, now they put it in everything they make. They definitely became a “rules for thee, not for me” type of company. RT started with a centrist political stance and eventually went full liberal.
100% agree
Hey, love your breakdowns of RT drama and ongoings. I agree with others that F**k Face is about the only good thing left.
Thanks! I appreciate your comment
Eh, saying their hayday was during S1-5 of RvB is lame, I think peak RT was when they had RvB, RT Shorts, RTX, Day 5, Crunch Time, Camp Camp and so on.
Ive said this so many times but burnie was the glue that held it together. When he left it died. He was the one who always hosted the partys for the company and made sure they where social outside of work so it felt like real friendships. Now all they ever say is if i dont make a podcast with blank ill never see them again and they never hang out with each other so theres no funny or good content to talk about. We used to get stories of wild partys at burnies or how they went out to the bars and something happened. Also the new people are so different from the old. Its so wierd when you listen to the podcast now and their just like yeah fuck white people. Like what?
Golden ages was Gavin and the others playing World of Warcraft
mop era
Everyone that was liked at Rooster Teeth left, and no one that is still there is likeable. They are unfunny and untalented boring hacks now. I use to watch Achievement Hunter, Lets Play, and Funhaus everyday and now haven't watched in years.
RT lost touch. They have to be safe. Everyone should quit and reform a new company.
I had my own reflections on RT, and to be quite honest, I compare Rooster Teeth to the Pegorino Crime Family from GTA4 (since they have one thing in common; they wanna be in the big leagues, but the pros look down on them like they're annoying bottom feeders)
Funhaus are still a thing? Who knew?
Burnie was the guy who had all the ideas for newer content and was trying to get them away from the, "let's play video games in a room together." And I think early on, that's why he gave the control to Geoff to create shows through Let's Play and AH. Burnie was widely known for listening to other people around him and helping them create new ideas. After he left, you could see and listen to the frustration with the talent at RT not being taken seriously about their ideas and that was a huge sticking point of why people left the company to go do their own thing.
Jeremy Dooley spoke about it on his stream a few months ago, about how CHUMP was the only idea that went through and it really felt like they only green-lit it because Jon wanted to stop doing On The Spot. When his other ideas for animation and things outside of AH kept getting shut down before they barely got off the ground, he left. Honestly, it's been great seeing the people who have left be successful on twitch or youtube on their own. I wish more of their semi-decent personalities would leave for good so it was easier to support them.
I can't, in good faith, give any money to RT with what has happened over the years. I used to be a first member, but I ended my membership when all those gross news bombs just kept coming during the pandemic. It was that stacked on top of the fact that I was sick of every podcast turning into a dog pile on who's political party was better. As a person who doesn't care much for that in entertainment... RT was the place I used to be able to go to and get away from all of that... It just became a part of the problem and it spanned throughout the entire company. Geoff, Burnie, Gus, Jack... It was never-ending. I just had to exit and move onto creators who were more concerned about content and making things lighter.
Also, I know up front it made them a ton of money and they viewed that as a plus to make more huge bets on content... But selling to a bigger company was a bad move, overall. It just made them a factory for a parent company to take the things they wanted from it and kill the things that made RT great; the fact it was just a bunch of friends having fun and making new ideas.
They have changed with the times, it’s not just that rooster teeth has changed it’s the world has. While I miss it I understand it and to those who still love it that’s cool. I’ve moved on to the podcast side because I feel that’s where old rooster teeth lives on
I found RT in 2005 with RVB, then in 2012 I use to watch RT almost religiously everyday with their Lets Play Videos. Then in 2015, Ray left and their videos seemed to become less funny and then I slowly stopped watching RT till 2017 where i stopped watching them. Then in 2019-2020 I tried to watch them and just found them unbearable to watch, they became a soulless empty shell of their former selves.
I remember the days when RT was hilarious but those days are long gone.
People like a good underdog story, people love a good downfall stpry
Couldn’t agree more!
I don’t quite understand some of the things they do. Like why make Matt part time after only shortly adding Joe to AH like I don’t get what he brings to the table compared to Matt. I don’t mean that in bad towards Joe just I don’t get it. Also I feel like they could maybe offer some kind of contract to Ray to appear in a video like once a week, no editing or nothing just show up and have fun and he could continue to stream and it could help Ray and Roosterteeth
I certainly had plenty of fond memories with RT over the years. First introduced to them in 2008 by a random RUclips suggestion and was shown Red vs Blue for the first time. Loved the show and the dynamic especially since with the way they made the characters feel, it was as if I could certainly relate and draw similarities between them and myself in the military at the time. Certain machinima shows they had were hit and miss, but I gave them all a try. While the show kept going on, for me personally I felt that the story felt well and truly closed when they closed the chapter on Agent Texas, but I give the team props for still coming up with ideas to keep things going for the show. I wanted to try and jump back in after many years of a hiatus, only to find out that they fired Joel over political views (at least to my understand that is how I can recall it). I am a very middle of the road person, left or right, I could care less about politics, I care about merit. To see RT fire a founder like that, made me feel sick.
Achievement Hunter and Let's Play were also another fun thing I also got to enjoy, Ray and the gang teaching how to get some of the Xbox achievements certainly helped me with getting my Xbox Gamer Score up there when it was something I wanted to feel proud about. Let's Plays were also equally fun and provided a lot of inspiration, especially in things like Minecraft. One thing I definitely find cool was the fact that this was the first time I ever saw a company be like "hey if you do something cool, we'll feature it on here" and that got people like Matt and Jeremy hired. I knew something was up when Ray ended up leaving, I could tell he wasn't really feeling it with the crew he had spent so man years with. So many streams towards the end you could tell he wasn't very vocal, like ready to get out of there. I am very happy for Ray and that his Twitch career is still going of course, I want nothing but the best for him. Gavin I am also proud of him for doing so much for Rooster Teeth as well as his own things, like the Slow Mo Guys (heck I never in a million years would have though that a collab between Gav, Dan, and Scott of Kentucky Ballistics would have been a thing, but to see content creators of different spheres do these things, I am very impressed)
I never really listened to the RT Podcasts at first, it wasn't until the RTAA's came out that made me find some interest in it, and it definitely was fun to enjoy the dynamic of Gus, Bernie, Barbara, and Gav, along with whomever they had guest or rotate around. They all provided their own humor to the conversation that definitely gave me a laugh throughout my stressful days. I am proud of what they were able to share for the times I did tune in.
RWBY was another series I was proud of on so many levels, especially since I could go around to say that the creator of the show is from my home state (Rhode Island), sure the series might have been a little rough in terms of the animation in the first season, but Monty certainly poured his soul into the project, I am proud of the work he accomplished. After his passing I tried to support his project for Season 3 but it definitely didn't feel the same, granted I did like the dark direction it turned for that, but I could tell something felt off, and I did jump ship. In some cases I am glad I did, especially after hearing so many bad stories within the RWBY community, and how toxic it had become. I remember that contest that the team put for the community to create a new creature of Grimm and there was a badass and really awesome design called the Wendigo. So many people were screeching "Cultural Appropriation" and that entry ended up getting pulled by the organizers.
As I mentioned before with the whole Joel firing before, what also really made me sick to my stomach was the whole Kovic and Haywood fiascos that had surfaced. I won't go into the details as they are all over the internet by this point, but to see those things happen between the creators and their fans.... on top of the bullying/racism that had occurred at AH, really made me unsub from both RT and AH channels on RUclips.
This was no longer the company I admired and they certainly have fallen from what they used to be. Part of me does want to watch it burn to the ground, but at the same time would hope that there can be something that arises from the embers of the company and that they learned the lessons from what made the company fall from grace.
I totally apologize for such a lengthy response lol, just wanted to get this off my chest as I have been holding onto these thoughts for about 6 hours after I had come across the video late yesterday
Nah it went to shit after Ray left
But are they failing though? It feels easy to say so looking at one metric like youtube views but thats also ignoring the obvious push to creating podcasts over the last couple of years which has proven to be an incredibly lucrative market.
For me the biggest red flag was when Ray left... I stopped watching about half a year later. Must have been some time in 2017. When I went back a few years ago and saw the red flag turned into a rainbow flag I knew they were truelly doomed. But I think it's also age and life experience. Because I remember loving the RT podcast, but once I found JRE, it feld like I just had outgrown RT. So I left... and never looked back.
Great Vid!
For reference, you’re probably averaging = views a month to the main 9 million subscribers roosterteeth channel. 3 years ago in 2020 they were getting hundreds of thousands until they went full corporate zoomer humour
I came to a realization about AH awhile ago. Most arent very funy naturally.. Theyre funny because they play off spontaneous moments of a game or something outside of them leading to elevating them. And they hate hearing this. All the newest hires are all trash at even that and you can feel it. Plus that other black girl IS JUST LIKE MICA and they seem to have chosen her specifically to pump them up after what they view as them failing mica. Regardless its not what I want as a video game fan. Every time theres outcry over pandering and video games on a massive scale, yeah that was their audience. And they live in TX but Austin has changed them drastically with how Austins because the new LA.
Im still subbed to LP and AH but only watch when its Gavin and Michael doing Cursed Halo, Play Pals or Bunny Man... FH sucks its being carried by Ryan alone and theyre exploiting his local connections which doesnt make me feel good. I used to love a lot of the bands FH has tried to exploit members of for views, likely unpaid.
go woke, go broke lol
Rooster Testh became a woke joke
personally i think rt went downhill when they started hiring people who probably supported antifa and blm
For me, it was when RT/AH/FH leaned too much into their liberal bias around 2018/2019. Too much anti-trump political jokes
i was SO thankful for burnie leaving, i was tired of him not adding anything to the podcast, just another rich white guy
Fascinating. How different your perception of the Bernie situation is. Thanks for sharing it.
Burnie was the main reason I listened. Barbara was so fucking annoying so I couldn’t stand it when Burnie wasn’t there anymore.
that’s a crazy take
Didn't think I'd agree but I agree with you
Just watched a newer member of staff check an older member of staff on a live stream, pretty publicly.... they've gone so far from the special comedy quartet that it's sad to see what's happened to them now, I wish they'd just made something for themselves and they could have dominated as a personality driven group and now with the adam stuff and how desprate everyone seems to keep that buried it's hard
All they have left are the weaboo RWBY fans