It's because anyone feels this way and says something roosterteeth and the fanboys just call hating and claim you're a hater who just wants them to fail. The biggest problem is they can't take any real criticism and feedback and just call it hate.
Pretty much the same boat. Huge RvB fan from the time it originally came out. I went to events they hosted around Austin with friends growing up. I'll never forget getting to play Halo CE at Alamo Drafthouse on their movie screens (small event, maybe 100-200 people back then). It was an RvB watch along with the creators, great times.
Exactly man. I found rooster teeth when I was 11 years old when I found the shopping list Minecraft let’s play. From then until 2017 I’d watched every single piece of content they released on every channel. Now all I can watch is off topic and RT podcast.
There was a computer repair store by my house, I asked if I could intern there non-paid, the owner told me no, he had enough interns, maybe next year. Someone else in the store yelled out "Church, check this out!" I said "Church? that's an unusual name" He told me they all got nick names from a web series, I asked him if it was Red Vs. Blue. He was surprised I had seen it and we talked about the show for about ten minutes. After our conversation he said "well we've only got one name left, you'll be caboose, come in tomorrow." It was my first day in my career that I work in now, 14 years later. I still keep the nickname too. That show means a lot to me, it kinda sucks to see it fell off, but you described the feeling we all got from watching it well.
Thought I'd put a little table of contents here: 0:00 Intro 2:08 My Beginning 5:00 A Big Step Forward 9:02 Finding Their Stride 13:10 The Golden Age 16:21 Life is Always Changing
Ray leaving was definitely a turning point. However the introduction of funhaus was one of my favourite parts, I loved those guys from the IG days and they’ve only grown despite key members leaving
i was a huge AH fan when i first saw Surgeon Simulator back in 2013, but since they brought on Funhaus ive been watching less and less AH and RT. I feel too old for most of their stuff but FH and now IG feels like the perfect fit
"Did I change? Or did Rooster Teeth change?" Man... I've been asking that since Ray left. I still watch Funhaus but Achievemn Hunter... its been years.
I've been watching since way before Ray left and can honestly say I prefer their content now compared to then. obviously I loved Ray but you could tell he didn't wanna be there and towards the end was so quiet. I'm just happy that he's happy now and enjoying what he does and all of the people at AH now are enjoying themselves too :))
God of the Corn not really anymore, I watched a few when he first left because I wanted to keep up with what he was doing but I eventually stopped, I’m not really one to watch streams because my attention span doesn’t last long enough haha
SOTB my first video was the things to do in Minecraft Rock Paper Scissors, I was about 11-12 at the time and though I stopped watching consistently a while ago I still go back and watch that episode and it makes me think of all the great moments in all their content
SOTB the entire reason I played Minecraft. I watched roosterteeth up to about 2017. I have no idea why I stopped watching since it’s not like I don’t watch people play games anymore. It just felt different. Regardless, I still quote roosterteeth with my friends. “Bucket” “Flynt coal” “GOOOOOO (insert colour) team!” I actually went back to watch their old modern warfare 2 achievement guides because the remaster came out, and I still laughed at Geoff’s commentary. Their new lets plays just don’t feel the same for some reason.
That clip from Geoff really pains me. Hearing how he’s on the verge of tears while also being on the verge of screaming his head off, it’s not only a testament to his willpower, but it hurts to see someone hold that all in, even if it’s for just a moment to sound civil and reasonable. RoosterTeeth will always be my favorite channel. I may find them less interesting in the future, I may end up despising every video they release, but I will always love them and respect them and owe them my life. RoosterTeeth helped me when my life was at it’s worst, and they helped me discover who I am. I owe them everything, and I will never forget that, regardless of what content comes out in the future. I see creators bashing them for questionable decisions, calling out specific employee’s for simple issues, or even making light of their tragedies and it makes me sick. RoosterTeeth, even now at it’s much larger, much more successful self as it just passed it’s 17th anniversary, is still a small company. They may be partnering with DC for some stuff, they may have sold out, but they are still a small company full of loving, passionate creators that will always have my heart.
I found RT just as I was entering middle school. Fails of the Weak was my favorite show and episode 11 was the one that hooked me. That summer I found RvB and binged it a couple times through on my moms laptop. Over the next year or so, I watched just about everything RT had on their site, became a sponsor and even hung out in their chat rooms. In eighth grade, I got an Achievement Hunter hoodie for Christmas, just the normal black one with the logo. I became known for that hoodie. In my Spanish class, there was a shy kid who had just moved and had no friends. I even thought to myself “what an awkward kid” and then one day he came up to me and said “you’ve got an awesome hoodie” we talked about AH and then RT. After that he sat next to me in class, I rode the bus home with him since we apparently lived super close by each other. We became great friends because of a hoodie. The second year of our friendship, we were sophomores in high school and that Christmas, I bought him an AH hoodie, the same one I had worn for years. His was brand new and still a nice dark black whereas mine was sun faded, torn, and stitched in a couple spots. I credit RT for having great content and being a way to meet new people. My closest friend found me because I had a hoodie with some weird green star on it and I don’t think I would’ve ever really crossed paths with him if I hadn’t found RT. I may be on the fence about some of their content now but this video has reminded me of the passion they put in it. That clip of Geoff was a somber reminder delivered on the head of a sledge hammer. I appreciate this video for what it has reminded me of
Same deal with me and probably most of us in this comment section... In middle school me and my best friend were obsessed with Red Vs Blue, and that was when rooster teeth wasn't new anymore. Still have my 2 RvB Red Team and Blue Team t shirts and both of them horribly faded and worn.
This why I love RUclips, this comment was touching and all we’re talking about is RT lol. Only people that experienced the early RT times could empathize with this.
I honestly don't know how I feel about RT anymore. I have rewriten this comment a dozen times now and i simply just don't know how to explain my feelings. RT for me has died and I am angry about it. Do I want to see Rome burn? Yes and no. The thought that something, that has provided so much for me growing up, is in pain makes me sick to my stomach. But there is absolutely a vindictive part of me who feels validated from it. Validated because this feels like the consequences of just telling your audience "if you don't like it, don't watch it. No one is making you.".
You honestly couldn't be more correct. They sold out, in short. Every video got diluted with adds, sponsors etc. I loved the original drunk tank, I loved the podcasts, I always listened to them until I had to listen to so many different sponsor plugs. It'll never be what it used to be but I'll always love them. They've all played a huge part in my life including Ryan, which hurt the most. ( just realised I've rambled sorry 🤣)
In a recent AH podcast, Geoff literally broke down in tears and at one point said something along the lines of, "our grand experiment is in flames" and it felt like hearing the news of a family member telling you that they were suddenly diagnosed with a terminal illness.
@@bubba7385 honestly, that whole podcast is worth listening too. It deals with a lot of the failings RT has had with managing hate from the community, and it's effect on their employees/friends.
Geoff honestly seems like the only one of the founders with an ounce of sincerity left in him. Any time some big event happens for the company now, he’s always the one who gets on camera and gets real with the community. Meanwhile Matt and Burnie might as well be invisible to fans, Joel is no longer part of the company and is never given his dues as a founder, and Gus as far as we know just does the podcast. I think the big thing really is that the cast and crew we grew up with just isn’t there anymore apart from achievement hunter whose only super notable losses have been Ray, Mica, and Andy, two of whom never really got significant screen time. But with these newer people also come younger people who have new and different ideas that the older guys probably wouldn’t think of. Some of it works and fans really enjoy it, like on the spot and always open, but for a lot it just seems to fall flat, like the more recent seasons of RvB or their Video Game development history. The thing is they’re trying things to get new audience, but not doing as much for their older audience anymore it feels like, which isn’t a bad thing, but if you can’t please the fans you already have, you will end up losing them.
The problem on that is when you to only please the fans you already have, the numbers diminish as they become busy or grow bored anyways. I actually like RT still today.
Your comments about Burnie and Matt hit the nail on the head. Geoff still seems like Geoff, just more sober. Burnie and Matt have come across as corporate types for years who are giving the answers that are trying to appease people without making waves; I don't feel like either has made a genuine statement for years. Even in his big farewell post, it felt like a politician reading a prepared statement.
Geoff has always come off as someone who cares very much about the content he produces. Sometimes stuff is a flop, sometimes something is just a mess, but even then he is always looking at it, willing to be honest with what didn't work, and looking forward to make something great the next time around. Ray was a favorite for many of us who liked AH specifically and when he started losing enthusiasm and then left that seemed to be a breaking point with a lot of fans. Geoff just kept rolling and elevated Jeremy, who turned out to be an excellent choice, and for a lot of people their favorite AH video is UNO: The Movie, which came after all that. So, I still don't understand what happened that Joel left, or all the details of why stuff is falling apart pretty hard. I don't care that much either really, its not my business. But I did watch that entire pre-podcast bit with Geoff from last year discussing the layoffs, and seeing that same Geoff honesty and care makes me root for him whatever comes next. I hope he can turn it around. Maybe it even has to come in a different format or with different people, but he's the one I'd trust to reemerge with something cool.
If i may, while i totally left the rest of Rooster Teeth behind admittedly, achievement hunter on the other hand has managed to keep me entertained and engaged. I like the new people they all add new dynamics and personalities to AH. I’ll be real Jeremy is one of the best there in my opinion. I do respect and understand ur view. (Sorry if that feels disingenuous) In my opinion watch them play TTT or Coup, the lying and the treachery is interesting and hilarious. Thx for reading this splot of text.
Jeremy can be cool and all, but there is nothing quite like the dynamics of the group of Geoff, Jack, Gavin, Michael, Ray and Ryan (before all his controversy came about) from earlier AH. When they started adding Jeremy, Matt, and the rest, the crew turned a bit too young in terms of humor and culture for many peoples' liking, including my own. Once Ray left and tons of others joined, it drove me away.
I think Fiona left a permanent stain on Ah for me. She wasn’t funny and when people made themselves heard about her not being funny or enjoyable To watch they made a hour long podcast about how it’s because people are racist and homophobic…
This hit me in the feels I don’t really watch RT or AH anymore but there was a 4-5 year period I didn’t miss a single video or podcast. They will always have a special place in my heart and I hope nothing but the best for them
I think I slowly started to drift off their content after Ray left and my freshman year in college. I didn't have as much free time as before to watch every single video they put out, and eventually I just didn't watch their content for years. I found Funhaus back when they were IG so idk if that still counts, but I love watching their content. Like RT as a whole, they've changed and I'm slowly drifting away too. Damn, it kinda sucks getting old.
Actually preferred when ray left. you could tell he wasn't enjoying it any more, made the videos boring, I like the humour that they all bring to the table now.
I can understand the love and respect you have for Rooster Teeth, and I'm not siding with any of the people making angry rants just for the sake of it or hoping they go under. But the main message I got from watching this video is "Don't criticize companies that have made content you love in the past" and that's not exactly something I agree with. You can still criticize someone if they hold your respect, or even if you cherish the memories you have with them. Criticism isn't inherently bad or unwarranted on it's own, it is the context of and what's contained within said criticism that decides that.
Burnie just peaced out. Joel is gone. Red team won. Somewhere along the way I lost the vibe. The Rooster Teeth subsidiaries were more interesting to me. I miss Cowchop I love Funhaus. RT gave me some great thought provoking content over the years. I'm sad to move on
Rooster did became corporate. them taking the disney route and trying to uphold a exterior face of a friendly easy going place doesnt change the fact that they were a company that shat all over montys ideas as soon as he hit the ground. RVB is another example of a good old milking of a series far past its lifespan.
@@MauiWowieOwie I agree Season 10 would have been a great ending, it was basically the climax plot-wise. Season 13, the end of the Chorus trilogy which went back to the machinima roots, would have also been a decent stopping point (especially with its intentional indefinite cliffhanger commentating on how the hero doesn't always get to see the end.) Season 14 was basically just a set of bonus videos, Season 15 was a nice one-season parody of the Chrous trilogy that also had a very satisfying ending. The point is that they've had SO MANY amazing places where they could have ended it! But instead it just keeps going. I stopped watching when they started incorporating live-action. (Which is a little hypocritical, since I turn my head away from people who stopped watching when they started incorporating animation, lol... but the writers also permanently changed around that time, iirc.)
While I agree with many of your points, you didn’t mention some of the biggest controversies they have faced in the last few years, not to mention the last few days (I get this is a few months old but recent things shed more light on the situation). I was one of those people Geoff mentioned during his video. I had a mod points and badges first 10000 to sign up on their websites social media. Yes, most of us changed, that’s life. But RT turned its back on its community and started lowering their quality of content and expected people to pay more for it. I don’t blame them for “selling out” but I do blame them for pretending to sell gold but giving us gold painted shit. More money should mean higher quality but the inverse happened. I will always appreciate classic RT but this new organization is so unrecognizable I can’t in good conscience continue to support them. Which makes me sad. But the truth sometimes is that way.
My first incident was with support staff before and after the buyout. I made a dumb mistake around 2013, and they (the bearded IT guy at the time) helped me out, I got my money sorted out, and I got my item. Come 2017, I had my credit card stolen, cancelled it, and it didn't auto-renew my RT Sponsor account (I had since 2013 due to that helpful exchange). I sent a message to explain and they (just faceless RT support) basically said "tough luck, pay the new rate" and I haven't looked back since. It's disappointing.
I couldn't say it better! I still appreciate the old years and all of that content which was some of the funniest shit I had seen... But the new company is so corporate and faceless that it's almost completely unrecognisable from the old community driven company of the early days... That's the saddest thing for me...
I completely lost interest when Mica started getting shit on by the community constantly. I was a big fan of Michael, but the way he spoke to her made me feel unwelcome in the community too. I remember an off topic podcast in 2016 where she is explaining what racism is like and he talked down to her like she was an idiot. Burnie was right there and as far as we know, he never did shit to fix the problem. And nobody said anything when the comments on that podcast mocked her ruthlessly. I watched the recent apology podcast and it felt like Geoff was trying to take all the blame to absolve the company of any responsibility. They pretty much just filmed an hour of the company's backbone sobbing and pointing out every one of his personal flaws. RT letting him take the fall is just another negative, not a positive. It was also too late. Not a week too late, not a month too late, but 4 YEARS too late.
I found RoosterTeeth through Michael's rage quits years ago, and then fell in love with Achievement Hunter. I watched for years, and loved it to pieces, and through it I ended up loving RT too. When Ray left AH, I was so devastated. For a little bit, I couldn't watch any AH videos without really feeling the hole that Ray left. But you know what? About a year later I went back and realized that AH was still great. I still go back and watch old videos sometimes, but I love the newer faces in the AH videos. I can't even believe there was a time without Jeremy. RT, though, just seemed so wrong when I came back. I could never figure out what happened to RT, but the content has never struck a chord with me since. I'm just so grateful that AH is still just as great as it was when I was a freshman in highschool and it was my whole life
I'm in the same boat as you are in. Found AH through Rage Quit Super Meat Boy and Minecraft (I still remember those videos till this day). Honestly, it's the reason why I loved Michael the most, because for most of my teenage years him and AH in general entertained me throughout those dull times. For RT, I liked their podcast back then, the first few seasons of RWBY, and the first few seasons of RvB. But everything else after that just wasn't my taste. Though, on the spot did give me some laughs, when they had actually funny and inventive participants. But that's pretty much it.
I can say Ive never watched rvb it just isn't what I'm interested in, but I absolutely love the entirety of AH and a majority of the podcasts that RT puts out.
I feel guilty for slowly not liking Rooster Teeth anymore. I miss old AH so much (It changed so much when Trevor took over, feel bad for saying that). I love Ray's streams so much because it's fun silly and serious gameplay with a good community.
I'm certainly less invested in their content (used to rewatch RVB & RWBY, Let's Plays esp. Minecraft and GTA, and most of their podcasts constantly), but I wouldn't say I feel guilty about NOT watching all their stuff. Truth is things in my life changed and the company/content changed, and that's not a bad thing. Like how your friendships change from middle school to highschool to adulthood. There is a whole new generation of the fanbase who love their stuff and are discovering it for the first time (heck, I didn't jump into RvB until Reconstruction and Recreation were out). Fans can bemoan how much RT has changed, but like CE's video points out, RT as a company has shifted and evolved at least half a dozen times before now, just like any company. The only difference is that their fanbase are as invested in the company as they are in the content, and pick apart every bit of news about them. TL;DR RT has changed and so have I, and that's okay.
Yeah you said it... Tre made it too much of a company. It kinda seems fake now. I liked AH cuz of the chaos which is what he reduced. He brought order which although is a good trait but it isn't why AH was charming.
I've not said anything to the effect because I didn't want to put that toxicity out there, but as far as I'm concerned, Trevor is the entire reason I stopped watching AH. The dudes influence is admirable. If it was just his brand that I didn't like, I could completely ignore it, but he reach is so strong. Just watch a Minecraft video with him in it and one without. The lads especially seem to completely change when interacting with him.
I don't wish RT's end. I don't like the company's decisions, yeah, especially in terms of RWBY, the thing that introduced me to them, but losing what you've built up is devistating.
In addition to all of this I think I, along with many of the fans from the "golden age" find it difficult to get back into RT even if they wanted to, as many of the talents we loved have either been fired or moved on. It's hard to become invested in these new people regardless of content
Geoff will forever be my favorite AH member and RT member. He is so wholesome. Him on the Off Topic made me cry. I am so happy that Geoff is still on AH
I moved on from Rooster Teeth but seeing the channel becoming a company and seeing it tear itself apart bit by bit is depressing. I guess all good things must come to an end.
I've had a similar experience, but with Smosh. I used to watch their content all the time, and even when they branched out into a second and third channel, I enjoyed those. And then.. it changed, and I was disappointed. I liked Ian and Anthony, and I enjoyed the Smosh Games crew too, and that was great. But then Ian and Anthony stopped being on Smosh Games very much. And then the Smosh Games crew started falling apart. And then Smosh brought in a bunch of new people. And then Ian and Anthony stopped being in Smosh videos very often... And at some point I realized that I watched this channel to see and enjoy the chemistry between two people who are barely there. So I stopped watching. It was disappointing, but I don't hate them for changing. I just move on. Rooster Teeth was something I discovered via RvB appearing on youtube, probably around season 6 of the show. (2008-9) and I watched through the whole thing to that point, then discovered the RT Shorts, and other things on RUclips. I soon found Achievement Hunter's Minecraft videos (there were like 5 at the time), and while I didn't much care for achievement guides and such, the gameplay stuff had me hooked. Ten years and over 300 episodes later, I'm still watching AH Minecraft and GTA, and a lot of their other videos. In AH, I've enjoyed most of the new faces they've brought in, though Fiona and Alfredo still annoy me sometimes. I am however, far less inclined to watch RT Shorts and live action stuff now, because it feels like all the original people have stepped back from the camera and been replaced with a new group, which I liked okay, and then that team is now gradually giving up the spotlight to a new group which are.. ehh. Gus and Geoff still appear sometimes, and I'm happy to watch them inevitably be the funniest people in the room. But like, a video of Mariel and Christina and Max doing something.. I just don't care. I don't hate them or resent them for making it, nor do I resent Burnie for leaving the company. It's just disappointing. But when there are no more people that I care about, I'll stop watching. Simple as that. To address the 'turning point' a lot of people had, I didn't have too much problem with Ray leaving. He was good and I missed him, but I very quickly grew to accept Jeremy as one of the team. He fits in super well in my opinion.
Achievement Hunter was and still is my favorite part of Rooster Teeth AND I was introduced to the whole Rooster Teeth world because of Achievement Hunter
For me it was a combination of Ray leaving and seeing less of Joel. Plus over the years I've grown to like different kinds of content. I love Funhaus more now, the humor is just hitting it for me.
@AJ Henderson Well quality of content is a really subjective term, i would have to disagree with that. Have you seen the hardcore series, arizona circle, last laugh, haunter, Gen:lock. They're all amazingly put together and fun series. I get some of the shows you loved may have dropped in quality, but people get into habit of wanting and expecting certain series. But things like hunt, or achievement guides, have died out. Not only in the public eye, but in what they have an ability to make. They will eventually run out of new idea's or content. Everything needs to end, but when there is 50% of a fanbase screaming to continue every series for the rest of eternity its a bit hard to be enthused
I needed a break from Achievement Hunter. I just drowned myself in the content and it got boring. I'm back in the saddle now though. I really enjoy the Gmod stuff and the tabletop games.
same here I stopped watching them for a couple of years because I was being overexposed in content and it was getting stale and boring. I love watching their TTT videos and occasionally go back and watch the videos I used to enjoy. I think for me it just got to a point where it was just everyone yelling over each other and didn't find it entertaining anymore as I grew up
As someone who has taken almost an identical ride with RT as in this video, I recommend getting back into AH. I'd dipped on their content for a few years, but recently the cast is as strong again as it was in the 'Golden Age'. Can't say I'm in love with every single member (there's a lot now), but new additions Jeremy, Alfredo, Trevor & Fiona all fit into the group dynamic brilliantly in their own ways. Their TTT videos specifically are top tier, and anything with the Gavin/Fiona combo are my new favourite videos.
My line of thinking: 1) The meta changed - the collective society values different things, changing our thoughts on content 2) you yourself value different things 3) RT culture values has changed Any two of those things can cause people to feel like they no longer mesh with content. It happens, there will always new content to find.
It makes perfect sense. The 2000s where a time where people were minding their own business and used the internet for occasional content. Now that the 2010s passed and we are in the next decade, people have gotten very picky about what they want their content to be, forcing politics and social issues down everyone else's throats, making them conform to that or raising hell if we disagree. I see it in Netflix now too, and so many other media channels. Content sucks now!
That's fine and all to say "oh people just changed" but really the truth is Rooster teeth shot themselves in the foot and they're slowly bleeding out. To squander their business with repeated missteps and questionable business decisions blows my mind. They had it good, in some ways. Everything has to come to an end but Roosterteeth created their own demise.
Um, I beg to differ. RT has certainly changed in the last few years. Plenty of people who started the company aren't there anymore. Plenty of scandals, not just the most recent one. They attack their own fans and tell them to fuck off on Twitter. They have declared themselves a social justice company and have hired a lot of political activists. They've even announced that they'll remove all questionable, insensitive and problematic content they've ever made, especially all the stuff you love so much from their earliest beginnings. Say goodbye to pretty much all of the content they've made for the first few years of their existence. Yes, RT has definitely changed, and not in a good way. Most of all, they've long lost the connection to their fans. Yes, Rooster Teeth has certainly changed, but I'm pretty sure people like Geoff see that and hate every bit of it. Some, like Bernie, just leave it all behind and that's fine, because I'd rather see the founders go and not get involved with the current bullshit that's going on at the company right now. To say that only you changed is denying reality.
I've been watching Rooster Teeth Daily since 2007 everyday, watching new content, rewatching my favorite episodes. I've been a first member for 2 or so years now. I still watch alot of their content every single day. I know the times of when episodes come out and what series. I'm always excited to see what's next with Rooster Teeth. I feel very comfortable on they're website even with it's flaws. And in my experience the Community is amazing! I can't see the day coming where I will stop watching their content.
The point he making in the video is that a lot of us felt that way. For a very long time. The way you feel about the company is the way many of us USED to feel. So it's a bit sad to let that go."You'll understand someday kid".
The saddest thing is when your heroes turn to legends. A beautiful relic of the time they where on top. Which is... not the case anymore,that's for sure. Great video.
Watched AH from 2010 to 2015, happy I saw their content in their golden years, they got me through high school, feel bad for Geoff and the shit he has gone through :/
@@mercybabineaux4507 yea like legit since ray they have been using people way less funny and lacking in the brain cells to make good in game decisons (lindsay jones)
Quick RIP to the people who won't ever get to experience the vast entertainment brought by Jeremy, Matt, Alfredo, Trevor, or Fiona. It really does suck how people kind of "gave up" on AH after Ray left, even though their content definitely hit its best stride after 2015.
A J The Golden Age of AH was 2012-2015. I’ve been watching since Fails of the Weak and Horse, and I’ve noticed a considerable difference within AH. Sure, they may now have a better rotation of games they play, but back during the era of Ray they could pick up any game, make the video hilarious, and effortlessly rack up a million view video. Back then, every video was legitimately hilarious with great chemistry. Now, it seems they phone it in in a lot of videos. They make their GTA, Minecraft, and Gmod videos shorter now, and a lot of times they aren’t interested in the other games they play. They also moved away from gameplay on the Achievement Hunter channel and just do live-action things now, which barely get any views.
I just watched this on like Monday. And now as of today June 11, 2020, both Burnie and Joel have left Rooster Teeth. No question now, the company has changed. It's a sad day for the internet.
@@summonerron88 To be fair, Joel is only a loss if you're still a fan of RvB. There seems to be some bad blood with his departure, so I don't see him coming back for future seasons. This likely means Caboose is being written off.
@@WeebTM2311 Nope Joel said the asked him in to record some PSA's right before firing him, so unless he gave them express permission to use his voice AFTER he left the company, that is highly illegal. Also sure Joel may have been a political asshole, but personal politics are NEVER a valid reason to fire someone.
@@megaman37456 I do recall him saying that he recorded some PSA's. I should have said that I meant story/season voicelines. The PSAs will most likely be the last we see of Caboose. Which is a shame because he was one of my favorite characters
On one hand you're right I too have changed since I started to watch them in 2009-2010. But I am not and I never was one of the hate mob. Yet RT is not the same. Their content still looks the same but doesn't feel the same. Most of the new shows they are producing are trying to force down your throat their own illusion of how much fun they're having when in reality you can't feel the same goofiness like before. It's like they are chained by what they can and what they can't do or they have a bunch of checkboxes they need to tick. RvB overstayed their welcome and I hope they'll leave it resting RWBY is a series that I stopped watching because I felt annoyed by their decision and character development or lack of it actually and the story feels empty. RWBY wasn't the best anime ever but first 3-4 season you could feel the passion, the creativity and the depth. And it's simply not there anymore. When it comes to AH it's hit or miss most of times... Some videos are golden and a lot of fun but some videos feel like they pushed out a video for sake of pushing out a video even though the quality or entertainment value is not there. Some GTA videos make me laugh uncontrollably but some videos are boring even as background noise. MC let's plays are same. TTT are fun and you really can feel that they enjoy it and they are not doing it because they have to fulfil time slot.
I think this is the best definition of the company right now. I have changed but so has the company. I don't want the company to fail but most of their content now just isn't for me.
TTT is peak current AH and one of the only reasons I'm here for the company. Some Minecraft and GTA are gold too, and I'm always eager for when they get the Derp Crew on since that's a cast of people AH genuinely enjoys playing with. There's still videos I can't really get myself into though. For every Kamikaze there's that YDYD video of Michael walking aimlessly for half an hour. I love every one of the current cast, although Lindsay's disregard for the rules sets off my pet peeves, and seeing them genuinely having fun together is a blast. I wasn't exactly here for the older days with Ray and even Mica, but I can go back and have a laugh at older episodes even though there's a different flavor to AH now.
@@inaccurateprophecy8971 The thing is they kinda abused GTA and MC videos to the point that they can't really come up with funny or interesting ideas anymore sometimes they score gold but let's face it the first 100-200 episodes were the best when they competed for tower of Pims
@@JerziTBoss I can't exactly blame them for running dry of that kind of content since MC and GTA are the most popular things on their channel consistently for, what, a decade now? I do appreciate them playing other games with Jackbox always being a blast, but expecting them to spark new ideas like the old days is a lot to ask for with something running that long.
Honestly... what killed rooster teeth for me was the new cast members. And the fact that they’re constantly pushing their political views on us with each video. Rooster Teeth trying so hard to be PC was just enough for me to say goodbye. And now Joel has left for the same reason. A founding member just gone... I loved rooster teeth. They were a HUGE part of my teenage life.
I didn't know anyone else felt the same way I do about Rooster Teeth. I had enough when they started talking about politics. The entertainment without having to hear about what everyone else in the world was talking about was nice. It used to be an escape. Now I can't stand seeing recommendations to watch their videos.
@@mackenziemorris2703 I feel the same, the politics are what killed it for me. I don't watch their content for ignorant pandering but for video games, they deserve to be losing all their audience for failing to keep politics out of their content
I don’t care if joel was problematic, he’s an internet personality. I hate the fact that people take personalities so seriously, just don’t listen to them if you don’t agree. He’s an entertainer not a politician, just take everything with a grain of salt and form your own opinion like damm. Everything NEEDS to be so serious and taken at face value nowadays, just do and say what you want as long as you don’t hurt anyone you good
I was an OG. Been around since the VERY first video and loved the content of everything they did. To a point. For some their point was when certain people left, or were fired. Or when the videos went from 15-25 minute gold to 45 minute poorly edited talk shows on AH. Or possibly when they were bought out. There are many points and just as many variations as there are people. For me, it started with what they did to Caleb. He tried one time to get into a video and proceeded to bag on him so much that it was like they didn't even want to give the guy a chance. This, along with how they treated others who used to work there and have now gone just didn't sit well with me. Then hearing about their work environment and the toxicity of their animation department and other areas of the company just made me feel sorry for the people who worked there. I hung on for as long as I enjoyed the content, then unsubscribed. I am currently 39, I don't want to believe I aged out but maybe I did. I value my time more and more each day and I don't want to waste it on content that doesn't entertain me or is just filler because of an algorithm I'll never understand. So, goodbye RT. You provided me with countless hours of entertainment, and for that I say thank you. But for what you've become, I can only say that you've lost what little soul you had left and I hope those that are still there now can exit the company for something better, because it's only going to get worse. The only people who can retire at that company are the founders. Everyone else is on borrowed time until their views dip or corporate lays them off.
As an avid Rooster Teeth watcher going strong since 2011, I can day this was an excellent video. Even though I would disagree with some points/opinions (such as feelings towards new members of AH), I totally understand it. Jeremy will never be as good as Ray, but I can't compare the two, and instead, I see what Jeremy brings to the table that Ray didn't, while also still following Ray on Twitch for when I miss him. This video hits every mark on the head, and I'm still an RT fanboy, but I do acknowledge it's downfalls. I'll say it again, this was an excellent video and I'm glad you found it in you to complete it, even if it took 3 years, thank you for not giving up on it and delivering some great content.
The problem with ray was towards the end it was so obvious he wasn't happy and it was so obvious. You can tell Jeremy has passion and cares about his work.
@@n-11ordoskirata70 You mustn't have any business experience. What you call "selling out" is them trying to be able to keep bringing out newer higher quality. Without their deal with at&t they could have gone bust by now. Think about shows like haunter that cost thousands Nd thousands of dollars to film.
Christian Edmunds Yeah i know they needed the extra funding but it has in turn caused them to lose a lot of the personality to the content I think, there’s a lot of algorithmic content now beyond just the regulars like rtp, gta, minecraft. it’s just lost a lot of the true RT glamour it feels like
This sounds like a dear john letter with lots of love written into it and honestly i think this was the best way you could have articulated this. Bravo sir.
In my opinion their downfall was selling the company, Monty dying, forcing Ray out over his personal twitch channel, and RT hiring everyone’s significant others into positions in the company. Jack’s wife went from the RT community in Australia to a job at RT, Ashley got a job at RT after dating Burnie, Michael’s wife went from part time podcast editor at RT to the exclusive editor for AH, a bunch of the other guys had their girlfriends be extras or stars in the RT shorts or modeling the merch on the website.
I wanna say I stopped watching around early 2016. Watched since day 1 red vs blue and had so many good memories listening to the Drunk Tank podcast while making waffle cones at my local ice cream shop. I’m with you, I have no ill will towards them. I just got older and watched others things and when I came back I was lost. I wish them nothing but the best, and I hope they know how much of a good impact they truly made in the gaming and RUclips community!
Honestly the moment Ray left way back then is when it felt it started to lose its charm. Especially once Red Vs Blue began turning into a literal anime. Let alone once RWBY came into play... it felt like it was becoming extremely corporate. (I know RWBY Has its qualities but its story is not one of them and Monty did AMAZING work.)
@@SeniorCharry To be fair, Ray is doing a shit ton better with his own thing than with AH. He found more joy and accomplishment making his own content. Subscribe to his channel...It's all just Let's Plays and Achievement Hunting, but it's good stuff.
You joined honestly after where people saw a considerable decline in quality. There is SOOO much content including of Ray’s history with the company that you can enjoy
Honestly AH is still fine now content wise. The “golden years” idea is kinda crazy to me because all the new AH members bring so much more to AH then just ray by himself. Ray is fine but I think the root of this “golden years” concept is a bunch of OG fans that don’t like change, comedic tastes changed or who just got burned out on AH content.
I've been watching since around 2007 and 09-14 were definitely some golden years. Folks really underappreciated the role of Griffon Ramsey at the time, among other star staff.
Same! My first series of RvB was 15. I love it, but there are previous series I love more! And I love every branch of RT, but I do tend to watch older stuff more.
Whew... This was... Something. Rooster Teeth, too, was a BIG part of my teenage years and even to this day, I miss it. Meeting Gus, Geoff, Burnie, Becca, and Matt were THE reasons I'd go to conventions. I still have my signed DVDs and will forever cherish them. (Even The Strangerhood!) I'll never forget RVBTO where I got to see Trocadero live, watch Burnie cook up and serve some bacon-wrapped jalapeno goodies for us in the park, and the memories I made with the friends I hung out with. Their site was one I'd constant be on, but it felt like as their company grew as did my lack of interest in it. Even with all the new content (that I wasn't really a fan of) I'd still visit the site, post my journals, and comment on ones shared by my friends. Then the increase in FIRST charges where I canceled my RT sponsorship for the first time since maybe 2005. It wasn't until whenever last year they removed everything and started their site over as a Twitter clone that I finally gave up. The RT that I had grown up with was forever gone. I still check in every now and then solely for Red vs Blue, but literally nothing else on the site interests me. I'm not mad at anyone at Rooster Teeth. Like you said; they've given us free entertainment for a good seventeen years. It was through people I met through their site that I started making RUclips videos of my own. I'll forever be grateful for that. However, it's not my community anymore. They don't make content that appeals to me anymore and all the people I enjoyed talking to have long since gone. I do wish everyone at RT the best though. They've earned whatever success comes their way. TL;DR: I still miss the RT community from 2004 and it makes me sad inside that things have changed so much.
I usually don't watch these videos. Seeing this one on my recommended list, something came over me, some kind of instinct to watch it. Never been more glad to have followed a feeling like that. This video really does encapsulate a lot of what I feel as an RT fan from the old days. I feel I've clung on more than most, I still watch RWBY and genuinely enjoy it, I watched RvB through to season 13 and honestly I loved the final three seasons. I still watch Achievement Hunter and actually find myself loving the new people more and more, Fiona has quickly become one of my favourite members of the team. I'm not going to lie and say things are better than ever, with the new, very corporate approach to things, and big names leaving, I'm definitely filled with anxiety. But every time I sit down and question whether to cancel my first subscription, I find far more reasons to keep it going. Seriously, thank you for making this video. You can tell just how much time has been put into every thought you've shared
Rooster Teeth has changed. They still have passion, but it's not the same people doing the same things. Bernie, Gus, Geoff, Matt, Joel are not in control any longer. Joel is no longer with the company, and the original founders that remain don't answer to themselves and their customers, they answer instead, to AT&T. They went from being their own boss(es) to taking orders from AT&T. I hope they made bank when they sold RT to another company - which was then bought up by another company, and eventually AT&T. I'm sure it wasn't their original plan to be owned by AT&T but once you decide to sell out, you are no longer in control. Why do I keep mentioning AT&T? Answer me this. Do you think any of the higher ups at AT&T give a bowel movement about RT or RvB or Achievement Hunter in any way beyond $$$? Bernie, Geoff, Gus, Matt, and Joel certainly do / did. They care about their fans. To AT&T - fans are disposable and easily replaceable.
@@WHOARETHEPATRIOTS475 Businesses are too big to fail now, so they can snub the customer all they like. Sometimes it's in their interest to do so, especially if they have pseudo-monopoly. What are we going to do about it, exactly? Choices are growing more limited by the day, and more and more content is aggregating.
@@ClockworkGearhead actually not entirely true. AT&T is losing consumers left and right. Their decision making has been putting off investors/ stock analysts. They have one of the largest debts in the business world and due to rapidly declining users of their services their future is looking shaky.
dont forget this is a company whos community funded a movie in like 14 minutes that would turn a lot of heads. they would have seen potential profit there
Before finding your video, small memories of RT came to mind. I tried to watch a couple of videos to try and remember why I stopped watching. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn’t engage like I did before but still couldn’t put it into words the reason I couldn’t enjoy them like before. Your video helped put it all together and helped to move on with knowing that I’m letting go of a huge part my teenage years (not to sound emotion because it really isn’t). I think you sum it up perfectly and respectfully unlike a lot of other videos I stumbled upon before find this one. So thanks for that and it honestly was a great video! ❤️
I lost my interest with Rooster Teeth like few years back by unsubsrcribing them. Do I hate them!? Of course not! In the end I always respect them but now they change as much as I do and I learn to grown out of it and move to on in my life. I wish them nothing but best of luck in their future. Red Vs Blue 1 to 10 or 15 were one of the best series they ever made and I thank them for that.
Thank you for making this video. I agree with everything you said. I was a huge fan of RT and RvB since episode 1 of RvB. The direction roosterteeth went, and pushing aside their original fans, that helped build their company up, really depressed me. It is all just nostalgia for me now, unfortunately. You never know your in the good old days until its over.
Here I was watching and thinking, "Okay, let me see why everyone's so angry at Rooster Teeth." To my surprise, that is not the case! I'm happy I just watched this. I'm happy there's people like you to make more of the content you like instead of raging why there's no content like there used to be!
He kinda didn't mention the parts that at least most people are pissed at them for, like cutting down their videos because of RUclips bullshit, or letting one of their employees go on a genuine racist rant on a podcast, or firing beloved talent over petty drama they could have solved with a simple conversation.
@@wrpen99 I barely remember anything she was in since it was that long ago plus she was only around for a bit so I assume you're saying she was racist towards white people
Thank you for helping me let go of Rooster Teeth. I used to love them. Really, truly, love them. We've both changed and I hope that they do well for themselves.
sometimes I wish I was like my friends and stopped watching during the golden years. Watching rwby fall into a total garbage, achievement hunter get dull with more new faces than new content, and the atmosphere go from fun and lighthearted to "hello fellow kids", I wish I just didn't see it happen.
Yep achievement hunter replaced rooster teeth for me. Their gmod ttt videos are the best. But honestly I think if Gavin or Michael left the company they would take the entire audience with them.
@@xpirate16 yeah with gavin being the main running force of his own pretty successful youtube channel he doesnt need the finacial support of streaming as say jeremy and ryan
As much as I hate to say it, Geoff might need to leave RT to truly be appreciated and succeed because he is a Warner's punching bag because he is so invested that he'll do anything asked but in the end when you do that it just destroys every ounce of your being. He's showing signs of before his sabatical happened now.
@@Arthutstut641 That is why I believe he needs to leave. Needs to start fresh and get away from a very battered wife type relationship where he is fighting for a lost cause that will turn their back on him any time and it'll be nothing but deviation.
@@nickmoney i mean. I understand but I cant agree with you. As much as it takes a lot from him, Geoff loves RT, loves his community and loves his friends that there work with him. I believe everybody in RT really wants to make things better there. But Geoff realizes that this is the greatest thing he has ever done and its important to him But anyways. We know him as an online figure. Himself ans those close to him will know better about whats best for him
@@Arthutstut641 Except this isn't Rooster Teeth anymore, this is animation division #6 of Warner Brothers and AT&T now. Nothing more. I enjoy Achievement Hunter and RWBY still but lost interest in rest and since Burnie "leaving", Joel getting fired and Matt pretty much doing nothing with no position just waiting for announcement he's leaving then it's sign RT is no more. Probably gonna be merged into Cartoon Network, Crunchyroll and another WB animation department within two years.
Beautifully wrapped up at the end. It's hard watching something so close to us change, and easy to forget how we're changing, too. Geoff's Off Topic dialogue put some things in perspective for me at a time when I wasn't sure how I felt about the company. Now with most of the founders basically out of the picture, a new evolution of their vision is emerging. Let's all see what the next chapter brings us. As for their content, their TTT videos are some of the best out there, and I'm incredibly happy they partnered with Yogs, because I found Yogs after wanting more TTT.
I’d forgot I used to watch these. If you asked me, I’d have said I never really watched them. Now all the memories are coming back. I remember the clips from all random series they did
Honestly, after Ray left was when I stopped watching. I tried for a long long time but it just always felt like a piece was missing. They brought in new people many of which I liked, but the era was over. The dynamic that Ray, Geoff, Ryan, Jack, and Michael had were just unbeatable. It just hasn't been the same since.
I still enjoy the Lets Play episodes of Minecraft and & Days to Die. I lost interest in their other stuff though. That's ok, there are plenty of people who are into that other stuff. More power to them.
Same. For me, their Gmod videos are hands-down the most consistently entertaining series they've ever created. It's a shame more people don't watch them.
@@nizarfakhreifakh172 What I mean is AH's views are down in general, sadly. It usually takes a couple months for even the Gmod videos to hit the mil mark.
I only started watching RT about 2 and a half years ago. I wish i could have grown up with them, watched rvb when i was a kid, like you, and moved on throughout all their new adventures, but I'm glad to be watching them today. They've inspired me to create, find friends through the community, and share my passion for their content with my own family. Though i dont know how much longer they'll be making content, or rather how much longer I'll enjoy what they make, these past two years have had a constant light shining through them from this one tiny company. Thanks for not bashing them because of your own opinions, and thanks for sharing your story. I hope there'll always be a version of RT for people, something fun and inspiring, even if it isnt a stupid internet company.
I started watching in early 2004 as a kid, I grew up with them in their early years before the golden age and saw the start of the horse series, all of the guides like ones for just cause 2 and loving every video that started with “what’s up guys it’s jack and Geoff” I didn’t know it at the time but while I was in middle school, the company, through almost all of their forms of content, helped me grow into the person that I am today. I always faced a moral dilemma when it came to watching their content these past few years and was almost upset with myself at times for not knowing what happened. But you’re right, I changed and my experience as a fan has never changed and never will, they hold such a special place in my heart and I thank them for that. Thank you for making this video
i remember Burnie doing a short video on how RT is run. They had to do things in order for the company to survive for good or bad. For a company like RT that relies on subscriptions and merchandise to survive the world financial crises and its (still on going) recovery, youtube issues and the current pandemic just show how good of a business RT is. Just like in life RT have had there hits and misses, they have messed up on occasions and i hope they learn from them. As with the current event with Joel , untill more information or statement is made by Joel or RT im not going to comment.
I remember watching RvB, Let’s Plays, and whatever else they had to offer only 6 about years ago. Monty came in and made some actual life changing parts of RvB for me. Then he created RWBY, and he became my inspiration for digital art. His passing hit me really hard. It was a bit after that that I started watching their content less and less. Not because I felt that without him I didn’t fee connected, but because after period of moving and hoping things would get better after him, it didn’t. The Vic controversy came up, and nothing but all this hate for the company and this want for them to crash and burn. I love RT, so seeing it coming to this hurts me as a long time fan. I will have hope things turn around some day and as a fan, I’m not giving up. People can hate something someone said or did, but don’t hurt everyone else around them.
SnakeEyesss Clone Not aware of it? Vic Mignogna was one of the more famous anime dub voice actors. He was famous for characters like Edward Elric and Dragon Ball’s Broly. He was also Qrow’s VA for RWBY between volumes 3-6. Last year when the Broly movie came out it was a major hit. But days after the movie came out in theaters, stories of Vic being a sexual harasser and a pedo started coming up. Things like this are common, people saying horrible things to try and ruin someone successful. But then another voice actor accused him of being harassed by him. Vic was quickly and publicly fired from Roosterteeth, Funimation, and cancelled from Conventions. A lot of people started supporting the woman who accused Vic. Some other Voice actors like Christ Sabot and Sean Shemmel started supporting her. But VAs started supporting Vic too, like Todd Haberkorn who was once in some sexual harassment trouble and was proven faults. Vic started to get a lot of hate, despite many things like said voice actors very recently having fun with Vic, showing and even saying they liked the guy. A lot of inconsistencies with stories, such as a witness that was said to have been in her story saying he doesn’t remember anything bad happening. Many of the harassment stories being nothing but Vic being loving guy who hugs and kisses a lot of his fans since he’s Italian. And a lack of proof he actually did anything illegal. Just look up kickvic and I stand with Vic videos for more information. They go back to January 2019.
Rooster Teeth was such a great thing when I was a kid. I remember watching their short videos and having such a great laugh. Sad to hear Burnie leaving, but I haven't watched their content in a year. Used to binge so much of their content, but eventually I was turned off. Now I'm more of a Funhaus person
While I didn’t stop watching because Ray left, I had stopped watching around that time because I had felt that the company had lost or was starting to lose its initial charm that had drawn me in years before. But it hadn’t, the company just evolved and grew in a way that had grown outside my interests. I’m sure that new generations of viewers will come these days and fall in love with what the company is doing, like I had years ago, and I’m sure the time will come when they too grow out of it as the company begins to evolve. Nothing lasts forever
I think my rose tinted glasses for them dissapeared when AH stopped doing the Let's Watches. I still enjoyed the Let's Plays but the Let's Watches were comforting to me. I used to watch my brother play story based games and when I left for college it was something I really missed, the Let's Watches kinda made me feel less homesick. I watched every single one. When they stopped doing them and people asked why Jack said on a podcast "we really enjoy doing them and we'd love to keep doing them, but they don't get enough views. If you want us to keep making them you have to actually watch them." and I don't know to me it just suddenly made the point hammer home that this wasn't a few friends making videos together for fun anymore, it started to feel more to me that RT was now mainly driven by viewcount and profit margins. Once I got that feeling I just stopped enjoying their content. It felt less genuine. To be honest I probably just grew up from the parasocial relationship I'd formed as a kid. I still appreciate all the content they gave us throughout they years, but their content isn't for me anymore.
I feel like while they've obviously always tried to be successful, in the old days it felt more like they were just doing what they thought was funny/good and thankfully it worked but these days it feels like the main factor is "what will the RUclips algorithm like" or "sponsors like" or "social media" like and then they try to figure out how to make that funny. I think that's why its been a long time since I watched any of the rt stuff, I mainly watch the odd ah video if its a game I like or the ah based podcasts as those generally feel a little more like friends just being funny and not trying g for views etc..
Exactly this is what I've felt with AH lately. I resubbed to them to watch YDYD but almost every other game series they put out feels so forced for the sake of views. GTA, some Minecraft, Gmod, the thumbnails themselves scream that they're seeking that algorithm and trying to get kids to click. Half the time I can't even tell what game it is I'm seeing in my sub feed. Very rarely do I get the feeling that they're having fun and it's not fun to watch them force comedy. Guess it all feels too cooperate :(
This video honestly made me quite emotional. I think the reason I drifted out of RT's content a bit was that as my life got busier and more stressful for a period of time, I was overwhelmed by the sheer amount of content they had from all their various channels and I didn't feel like I was enjoying their content as consistently as before. However, I realise now that it was just because I was so overwhelmed with everything going on in my personal life that I didn't give the content that felt less familiar as much of a chance. Loved the respect and love you showed RT in this video and thoroughly enjoyed it; very well crafted and thought provoking! Thanks so much for making it and putting in the amount of effort you did :)
i really love this video- you can tell all of the work you put into it and how deeply rooster teeth has affected you. i only started watching rooster teeth content in 2017, so i will never really understand what it means to grow up with it and be so deeply affected by it, and then have to see it change in ways you don’t like. i, from only being a fan for about 3 years now, love a lot of what they’re doing now, but when i watch older videos i can see how much it’s changed and if i had started watching earlier i don’t know how i would feel. nostalgia is just like that i guess. i’m sure in 10 years when there’s a whole new achievement hunter cast i’ll miss my “good ol’ days” with fiona and alfredo and the rest of the crew just like you guys miss ray. either way, i respect you so much for growing and changing over the course of making this video and seeing everything from a different perspective- it shows a lot about a persons character when they can admit they’ve changed, especially when it’s about something so important to them. anyway, this comment got away from me, awesome video.
This easily the best video I’ve seen about Rooster Teeth, I love em, I grew up with em, I still watch em but there’s problems I have with the company, I almost dint want to watch this because I don’t wanna watch those dumb and ridiculous hate video about the end of rooster teeth because frankly they’re extremely negative while this video highlights the good and the bad, it was extremely well done and should be shown to people that are done with Rooster teeth, just move on, I’ll continue to watch cause I still love the AH guys, but with recent events..... I get the feeling the fandom and the company has more trials and tribulations that they’ll have to overcome
im really glad you ended on the note you did. it's seeing geoff's passion in that exact clip that has kept me following and supporting them. it's knowing that, despite all the hard choices and adversity they face, they still fucking love their job and their community. i remember some of the shakeups before they had to layoff those 50 employees, like ashley voluntarily leaving; that move alone saved about 2 or 3 jobs. they try to make the sacrifices they feel are right to keep their company going, not for money, but for the love of it all. i love the idiots at achievement hunter, and follow them daily, even if the content isnt that good, because i want to keep investing myself into what they do. i may not follow the main branch of rt as much any more (really need to catch up on rvb one of these days), but i still do what i can to keep that ship sailing. it may not be the golden age at the moment, but they could always hit another one soon
I came to know RT through RWBY in 2014, and it's a truly life-changing experience to watch it grow while Monty was still creating it. I made many videos about my feelings about RT's handling of RWBY since Monty's passing, with each video representing a change of perspective. At one point I wanted it all to burn too. It felt like the words of those of us who didn't like the change was falling on deaf ears, and probably still are. But in the end, it is what it is. RWBY belongs to RT, regardless of how it's handled, so the most we as fans can do is hope for the best, and adapt, and create our own stuff, the way that we like it. The company is going through controversy after controversy, so it's hard to say how it'll end up, but I still hope they can turn things around.
I can't exactly put it into words but I can tell this has come from a deep love of rooster teeth and regret of how it's become less enjoyable. Not even AH has been spared after what Ryan Haywood done. RT has become really hard to watch but I know both me and thousands of other fans will remember how good it was in it's prime.
Yeeeah the whole Ryan uh "reveal" left a very sour taste in my mouth & it legit ruined most if not all of old AH's videos for me. I just... Can't watch them with the same amount of fondness I used to have, knowing what I know now. Same thing; can't put it into words but it all just feels so tainted after everything that's happened. Who woulda known that his awkward first appearence in the Minecraft let's play would feel so... uncanny now.
They’re sooooooo fucking woke on the outside but every time you peek behind the curtain it’s racism, poor working conditions, and bigotry. The worst of both worlds.
Your effort can't go unnoticed. I haven't been checking most of rooster teeth' work however I was always hooked to Inside Gaming back in the days of Machinima and then I kept following the guys till they ended up in FunHaus, then rebooting IG again and now most of them are gone. Can't say that I hate the new guys, I still watch their content but I don't genuinely laugh at their content as I did in the days of original staff (I know there were others before them too). Seeing all that content for free for different phases from my life is definitely a privilege and I'm at the point where I'm planning on doing my own content, not for the money but just as a hobby to keep all the inspiration I saw throughout my life "alive". I have to say its people like them and YOU who really motivate me to spend tons of effort on something I like without the immediate need to monetize content. Thank you for your thorough video and for speaking your mind out loud. If it's any consolation it really did help shape some of my thoughts and helped to inspire me as well. Whether you're going to carry on making videos or not, I really do wish you the best.
I didnt realize anyone else felt this way too. I have loved rooster teeth when I was a kid and now I just cant get into it anymore
Agreed.
It's because anyone feels this way and says something roosterteeth and the fanboys just call hating and claim you're a hater who just wants them to fail. The biggest problem is they can't take any real criticism and feedback and just call it hate.
been watching funhause more than roosterteeth, feel like the comedy for funhause is better tbh
Pretty much the same boat. Huge RvB fan from the time it originally came out. I went to events they hosted around Austin with friends growing up. I'll never forget getting to play Halo CE at Alamo Drafthouse on their movie screens (small event, maybe 100-200 people back then). It was an RvB watch along with the creators, great times.
Exactly man. I found rooster teeth when I was 11 years old when I found the shopping list Minecraft let’s play. From then until 2017 I’d watched every single piece of content they released on every channel. Now all I can watch is off topic and RT podcast.
Geoff definitely still has passion but unfortunately he's not the one making decisions.
You can tell it stresses him out too
@@cristianaurelioortiz7450 yeah I expect Matt to leave next then Geoff after that.
Once all 5 members are gone its rly gonna be up to gav or barb (or someone else) to step up and hold the reins
actually he is the one making decisions, hes is the guy that all new shows have to go through. which is why he isnt in achievement hunter anymore.
@@DragoserakerIT he makes the CREATIVE decisions. He has no control over company direction and is likely vetoed alot.
There was a computer repair store by my house, I asked if I could intern there non-paid, the owner told me no, he had enough interns, maybe next year.
Someone else in the store yelled out "Church, check this out!" I said "Church? that's an unusual name" He told me they all got nick names from a web series, I asked him if it was Red Vs. Blue.
He was surprised I had seen it and we talked about the show for about ten minutes.
After our conversation he said "well we've only got one name left, you'll be caboose, come in tomorrow."
It was my first day in my career that I work in now, 14 years later. I still keep the nickname too. That show means a lot to me, it kinda sucks to see it fell off, but you described the feeling we all got from watching it well.
What is a real kick in the teeth is that Joel Heyman is no longer voicing Caboose
This is honestly kinda awesome
I guess more people than just me have reasons for using RvB names, that's a really cool story.
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@@MrFNP90 Thank you
Oh neat, 15 year old me made that compilation video mentioned at 3:14.
Legend.
Dude I remember laughing to that compilation as a 10 year old on Xbox live with my halo 3 buddies
eyyyy it's the legend!!
You were a legend during that time, friend
bro I watched that dozens of times! great job on that video 15 year old you :D
Thought I'd put a little table of contents here:
0:00 Intro
2:08 My Beginning
5:00 A Big Step Forward
9:02 Finding Their Stride
13:10 The Golden Age
16:21 Life is Always Changing
Ray leaving was definitely a turning point. However the introduction of funhaus was one of my favourite parts, I loved those guys from the IG days and they’ve only grown despite key members leaving
FH is probably the only part of RT that is going in the right direction
i was a huge AH fan when i first saw Surgeon Simulator back in 2013, but since they brought on Funhaus ive been watching less and less AH and RT. I feel too old for most of their stuff but FH and now IG feels like the perfect fit
FH are the only ones that I've watched for years
yeah ray saw the writing on the wall that's for sure.
Sad that Burnie left.
"Did I change? Or did Rooster Teeth change?" Man... I've been asking that since Ray left. I still watch Funhaus but Achievemn Hunter... its been years.
Give them a watch one of these days! Their content is as funny as ever and the new cast members add so much.
Is Funhaus still as funny now that so many of them have left? I just watch old complations now
I've been watching since way before Ray left and can honestly say I prefer their content now compared to then. obviously I loved Ray but you could tell he didn't wanna be there and towards the end was so quiet. I'm just happy that he's happy now and enjoying what he does and all of the people at AH now are enjoying themselves too :))
@@rhianm yeah I noticed him getting quiet towards the end too. Do you watch his streams at all?
God of the Corn not really anymore, I watched a few when he first left because I wanted to keep up with what he was doing but I eventually stopped, I’m not really one to watch streams because my attention span doesn’t last long enough haha
who remembers watching the very first let’s play minecraft when it first dropped
It’s why I played Minecraft. I saw it before then and never cared about it. Without them I probably wouldn’t like it today
I loved Minecraft and when I saw them upload it became one of my favorite series
SOTB my first video was the things to do in Minecraft Rock Paper Scissors, I was about 11-12 at the time and though I stopped watching consistently a while ago I still go back and watch that episode and it makes me think of all the great moments in all their content
Bro don’t make me cry
SOTB the entire reason I played Minecraft. I watched roosterteeth up to about 2017. I have no idea why I stopped watching since it’s not like I don’t watch people play games anymore. It just felt different.
Regardless, I still quote roosterteeth with my friends.
“Bucket” “Flynt coal” “GOOOOOO (insert colour) team!” I actually went back to watch their old modern warfare 2 achievement guides because the remaster came out, and I still laughed at Geoff’s commentary. Their new lets plays just don’t feel the same for some reason.
“Don’t cry because it’s over; smile because it happened.”
Dr. Suess is dead just like Rooster Teeth will be.
You’ve got a fantastic profile picture! XD
And just wonder why were here
That's the worst part. They're still trying to keep it happening. Even though it's so far gone.
This comment section feels like a High school reunion.
It is sadly
@@lyricalstarlight724 same here
This hit me with the biggest and most beautiful wave of nostalgia. Both a blessing but a curse. Time goes by so fast.
You couldn’t have said this more perfectly
Why curse?
Puke Lius because it hurts to see something you love slowly but surely grow up
Too fast my friend
Fast indeed. Well said.
That clip from Geoff really pains me. Hearing how he’s on the verge of tears while also being on the verge of screaming his head off, it’s not only a testament to his willpower, but it hurts to see someone hold that all in, even if it’s for just a moment to sound civil and reasonable.
RoosterTeeth will always be my favorite channel. I may find them less interesting in the future, I may end up despising every video they release, but I will always love them and respect them and owe them my life.
RoosterTeeth helped me when my life was at it’s worst, and they helped me discover who I am. I owe them everything, and I will never forget that, regardless of what content comes out in the future.
I see creators bashing them for questionable decisions, calling out specific employee’s for simple issues, or even making light of their tragedies and it makes me sick. RoosterTeeth, even now at it’s much larger, much more successful self as it just passed it’s 17th anniversary, is still a small company. They may be partnering with DC for some stuff, they may have sold out, but they are still a small company full of loving, passionate creators that will always have my heart.
People who have no identity outside of corporate branding and the entertainment media they consume are kinda cringe.
@@50centpb7 People who judge a person for what they see or not see as being a part of their growth is kinda cringe
@@hypernebula8711
>Haruhishit
Post discarded.
@@50centpb7 judging a person's life AND their choice of Television? What more can the heart desire?
@@50centpb7 your comment made me cringe
I found RT just as I was entering middle school. Fails of the Weak was my favorite show and episode 11 was the one that hooked me. That summer I found RvB and binged it a couple times through on my moms laptop. Over the next year or so, I watched just about everything RT had on their site, became a sponsor and even hung out in their chat rooms. In eighth grade, I got an Achievement Hunter hoodie for Christmas, just the normal black one with the logo. I became known for that hoodie. In my Spanish class, there was a shy kid who had just moved and had no friends. I even thought to myself “what an awkward kid” and then one day he came up to me and said “you’ve got an awesome hoodie” we talked about AH and then RT. After that he sat next to me in class, I rode the bus home with him since we apparently lived super close by each other. We became great friends because of a hoodie. The second year of our friendship, we were sophomores in high school and that Christmas, I bought him an AH hoodie, the same one I had worn for years. His was brand new and still a nice dark black whereas mine was sun faded, torn, and stitched in a couple spots. I credit RT for having great content and being a way to meet new people. My closest friend found me because I had a hoodie with some weird green star on it and I don’t think I would’ve ever really crossed paths with him if I hadn’t found RT. I may be on the fence about some of their content now but this video has reminded me of the passion they put in it. That clip of Geoff was a somber reminder delivered on the head of a sledge hammer. I appreciate this video for what it has reminded me of
Same deal with me and probably most of us in this comment section...
In middle school me and my best friend were obsessed with Red Vs Blue, and that was when rooster teeth wasn't new anymore. Still have my 2 RvB Red Team and Blue Team t shirts and both of them horribly faded and worn.
I feel the same I loved rooster teeth I even have the first rvb dvd with the thing to send in if you wanted merch lmao
This why I love RUclips, this comment was touching and all we’re talking about is RT lol. Only people that experienced the early RT times could empathize with this.
I honestly don't know how I feel about RT anymore. I have rewriten this comment a dozen times now and i simply just don't know how to explain my feelings. RT for me has died and I am angry about it.
Do I want to see Rome burn? Yes and no. The thought that something, that has provided so much for me growing up, is in pain makes me sick to my stomach. But there is absolutely a vindictive part of me who feels validated from it. Validated because this feels like the consequences of just telling your audience "if you don't like it, don't watch it. No one is making you.".
It lost its soul. Red vs. Blue will forever be legendary, but RT lost everything it stood for, everything that made it great. My heart is broken.
You honestly couldn't be more correct. They sold out, in short. Every video got diluted with adds, sponsors etc. I loved the original drunk tank, I loved the podcasts, I always listened to them until I had to listen to so many different sponsor plugs. It'll never be what it used to be but I'll always love them. They've all played a huge part in my life including Ryan, which hurt the most. ( just realised I've rambled sorry 🤣)
After seeing the much-maligned ‘RvB: Zero’, I lost any remaining respect I once had for RoosterTeeth.
In a recent AH podcast, Geoff literally broke down in tears and at one point said something along the lines of, "our grand experiment is in flames" and it felt like hearing the news of a family member telling you that they were suddenly diagnosed with a terminal illness.
Do you happen to know the podcast? I would be interested in taking a listen
Which one?
@@itsnicholas1526 Off Topic #236 which is something every AH and Rooster Teeth fan should listen to.
@@staple_gun6367 what time stamp did he talk about that?
@@bubba7385 honestly, that whole podcast is worth listening too. It deals with a lot of the failings RT has had with managing hate from the community, and it's effect on their employees/friends.
Geoff honestly seems like the only one of the founders with an ounce of sincerity left in him. Any time some big event happens for the company now, he’s always the one who gets on camera and gets real with the community. Meanwhile Matt and Burnie might as well be invisible to fans, Joel is no longer part of the company and is never given his dues as a founder, and Gus as far as we know just does the podcast. I think the big thing really is that the cast and crew we grew up with just isn’t there anymore apart from achievement hunter whose only super notable losses have been Ray, Mica, and Andy, two of whom never really got significant screen time. But with these newer people also come younger people who have new and different ideas that the older guys probably wouldn’t think of. Some of it works and fans really enjoy it, like on the spot and always open, but for a lot it just seems to fall flat, like the more recent seasons of RvB or their Video Game development history. The thing is they’re trying things to get new audience, but not doing as much for their older audience anymore it feels like, which isn’t a bad thing, but if you can’t please the fans you already have, you will end up losing them.
The problem on that is when you to only please the fans you already have, the numbers diminish as they become busy or grow bored anyways. I actually like RT still today.
Burnie is gone now as well
Your comments about Burnie and Matt hit the nail on the head. Geoff still seems like Geoff, just more sober. Burnie and Matt have come across as corporate types for years who are giving the answers that are trying to appease people without making waves; I don't feel like either has made a genuine statement for years. Even in his big farewell post, it felt like a politician reading a prepared statement.
Geoff has always come off as someone who cares very much about the content he produces. Sometimes stuff is a flop, sometimes something is just a mess, but even then he is always looking at it, willing to be honest with what didn't work, and looking forward to make something great the next time around. Ray was a favorite for many of us who liked AH specifically and when he started losing enthusiasm and then left that seemed to be a breaking point with a lot of fans. Geoff just kept rolling and elevated Jeremy, who turned out to be an excellent choice, and for a lot of people their favorite AH video is UNO: The Movie, which came after all that.
So, I still don't understand what happened that Joel left, or all the details of why stuff is falling apart pretty hard. I don't care that much either really, its not my business. But I did watch that entire pre-podcast bit with Geoff from last year discussing the layoffs, and seeing that same Geoff honesty and care makes me root for him whatever comes next. I hope he can turn it around. Maybe it even has to come in a different format or with different people, but he's the one I'd trust to reemerge with something cool.
Bruh, Andy and mica are not notable losses....
If i may, while i totally left the rest of Rooster Teeth behind admittedly, achievement hunter on the other hand has managed to keep me entertained and engaged. I like the new people they all add new dynamics and personalities to AH. I’ll be real Jeremy is one of the best there in my opinion. I do respect and understand ur view. (Sorry if that feels disingenuous) In my opinion watch them play TTT or Coup, the lying and the treachery is interesting and hilarious. Thx for reading this splot of text.
I always hear about people hating Jeremey and he's such a good, witty addition. He's a cool cat
I feel the exact same way
yea ah is about the only thing i watch from them. rt just doesnt feel its for me. its for someone but not me.
Jeremy can be cool and all, but there is nothing quite like the dynamics of the group of Geoff, Jack, Gavin, Michael, Ray and Ryan (before all his controversy came about) from earlier AH. When they started adding Jeremy, Matt, and the rest, the crew turned a bit too young in terms of humor and culture for many peoples' liking, including my own. Once Ray left and tons of others joined, it drove me away.
I think Fiona left a permanent stain on Ah for me. She wasn’t funny and when people made themselves heard about her not being funny or enjoyable To watch they made a hour long podcast about how it’s because people are racist and homophobic…
This hit me in the feels I don’t really watch RT or AH anymore but there was a 4-5 year period I didn’t miss a single video or podcast. They will always have a special place in my heart and I hope nothing but the best for them
As soon as I heard "Monty Oum passed away" my heart just sank and my eyes started watering
Great video, this pretty much is how my journey with Rooster Teeth has gone.
I think I slowly started to drift off their content after Ray left and my freshman year in college. I didn't have as much free time as before to watch every single video they put out, and eventually I just didn't watch their content for years. I found Funhaus back when they were IG so idk if that still counts, but I love watching their content. Like RT as a whole, they've changed and I'm slowly drifting away too. Damn, it kinda sucks getting old.
You've almost certainly changed, too.
Actually preferred when ray left. you could tell he wasn't enjoying it any more, made the videos boring, I like the humour that they all bring to the table now.
I can understand the love and respect you have for Rooster Teeth, and I'm not siding with any of the people making angry rants just for the sake of it or hoping they go under. But the main message I got from watching this video is "Don't criticize companies that have made content you love in the past" and that's not exactly something I agree with. You can still criticize someone if they hold your respect, or even if you cherish the memories you have with them. Criticism isn't inherently bad or unwarranted on it's own, it is the context of and what's contained within said criticism that decides that.
Burnie just peaced out. Joel is gone. Red team won. Somewhere along the way I lost the vibe. The Rooster Teeth subsidiaries were more interesting to me. I miss Cowchop I love Funhaus. RT gave me some great thought provoking content over the years. I'm sad to move on
Rooster did became corporate. them taking the disney route and trying to uphold a exterior face of a friendly easy going place doesnt change the fact that they were a company that shat all over montys ideas as soon as he hit the ground.
RVB is another example of a good old milking of a series far past its lifespan.
RvB should have ended at season 10. That would have been the best ending at closing the end of merc's arc.
@@MauiWowieOwie I agree Season 10 would have been a great ending, it was basically the climax plot-wise. Season 13, the end of the Chorus trilogy which went back to the machinima roots, would have also been a decent stopping point (especially with its intentional indefinite cliffhanger commentating on how the hero doesn't always get to see the end.) Season 14 was basically just a set of bonus videos, Season 15 was a nice one-season parody of the Chrous trilogy that also had a very satisfying ending.
The point is that they've had SO MANY amazing places where they could have ended it! But instead it just keeps going. I stopped watching when they started incorporating live-action. (Which is a little hypocritical, since I turn my head away from people who stopped watching when they started incorporating animation, lol... but the writers also permanently changed around that time, iirc.)
While I agree with many of your points, you didn’t mention some of the biggest controversies they have faced in the last few years, not to mention the last few days (I get this is a few months old but recent things shed more light on the situation). I was one of those people Geoff mentioned during his video. I had a mod points and badges first 10000 to sign up on their websites social media. Yes, most of us changed, that’s life. But RT turned its back on its community and started lowering their quality of content and expected people to pay more for it. I don’t blame them for “selling out” but I do blame them for pretending to sell gold but giving us gold painted shit. More money should mean higher quality but the inverse happened. I will always appreciate classic RT but this new organization is so unrecognizable I can’t in good conscience continue to support them. Which makes me sad. But the truth sometimes is that way.
Watch out, you’re gonna get insulted by the “loving community” for daring to speak out against RT.
My first incident was with support staff before and after the buyout. I made a dumb mistake around 2013, and they (the bearded IT guy at the time) helped me out, I got my money sorted out, and I got my item. Come 2017, I had my credit card stolen, cancelled it, and it didn't auto-renew my RT Sponsor account (I had since 2013 due to that helpful exchange). I sent a message to explain and they (just faceless RT support) basically said "tough luck, pay the new rate" and I haven't looked back since. It's disappointing.
I couldn't say it better!
I still appreciate the old years and all of that content which was some of the funniest shit I had seen... But the new company is so corporate and faceless that it's almost completely unrecognisable from the old community driven company of the early days...
That's the saddest thing for me...
I completely lost interest when Mica started getting shit on by the community constantly. I was a big fan of Michael, but the way he spoke to her made me feel unwelcome in the community too. I remember an off topic podcast in 2016 where she is explaining what racism is like and he talked down to her like she was an idiot. Burnie was right there and as far as we know, he never did shit to fix the problem. And nobody said anything when the comments on that podcast mocked her ruthlessly.
I watched the recent apology podcast and it felt like Geoff was trying to take all the blame to absolve the company of any responsibility. They pretty much just filmed an hour of the company's backbone sobbing and pointing out every one of his personal flaws. RT letting him take the fall is just another negative, not a positive. It was also too late. Not a week too late, not a month too late, but 4 YEARS too late.
@@TheRadiantSoap Mica wasn't the best hire, forcing her virtue's down everyone's throats.
I found RoosterTeeth through Michael's rage quits years ago, and then fell in love with Achievement Hunter. I watched for years, and loved it to pieces, and through it I ended up loving RT too. When Ray left AH, I was so devastated. For a little bit, I couldn't watch any AH videos without really feeling the hole that Ray left. But you know what? About a year later I went back and realized that AH was still great. I still go back and watch old videos sometimes, but I love the newer faces in the AH videos. I can't even believe there was a time without Jeremy. RT, though, just seemed so wrong when I came back. I could never figure out what happened to RT, but the content has never struck a chord with me since. I'm just so grateful that AH is still just as great as it was when I was a freshman in highschool and it was my whole life
I'm in the same boat as you are in. Found AH through Rage Quit Super Meat Boy and Minecraft (I still remember those videos till this day). Honestly, it's the reason why I loved Michael the most, because for most of my teenage years him and AH in general entertained me throughout those dull times.
For RT, I liked their podcast back then, the first few seasons of RWBY, and the first few seasons of RvB. But everything else after that just wasn't my taste. Though, on the spot did give me some laughs, when they had actually funny and inventive participants. But that's pretty much it.
I can say Ive never watched rvb it just isn't what I'm interested in, but I absolutely love the entirety of AH and a majority of the podcasts that RT puts out.
Wow I found them the same and yeah I only watch AH stuff now
I feel guilty for slowly not liking Rooster Teeth anymore. I miss old AH so much (It changed so much when Trevor took over, feel bad for saying that). I love Ray's streams so much because it's fun silly and serious gameplay with a good community.
I'm certainly less invested in their content (used to rewatch RVB & RWBY, Let's Plays esp. Minecraft and GTA, and most of their podcasts constantly), but I wouldn't say I feel guilty about NOT watching all their stuff. Truth is things in my life changed and the company/content changed, and that's not a bad thing. Like how your friendships change from middle school to highschool to adulthood. There is a whole new generation of the fanbase who love their stuff and are discovering it for the first time (heck, I didn't jump into RvB until Reconstruction and Recreation were out). Fans can bemoan how much RT has changed, but like CE's video points out, RT as a company has shifted and evolved at least half a dozen times before now, just like any company. The only difference is that their fanbase are as invested in the company as they are in the content, and pick apart every bit of news about them.
TL;DR RT has changed and so have I, and that's okay.
I like ray but I cant get into his streams because they are so long
Yeah you said it... Tre made it too much of a company. It kinda seems fake now. I liked AH cuz of the chaos which is what he reduced. He brought order which although is a good trait but it isn't why AH was charming.
I think a lot has to do with modern RUclips, if they posted the stuff they did 6 years ago, they would get demonitized faster than a flat earth video
I've not said anything to the effect because I didn't want to put that toxicity out there, but as far as I'm concerned, Trevor is the entire reason I stopped watching AH.
The dudes influence is admirable. If it was just his brand that I didn't like, I could completely ignore it, but he reach is so strong. Just watch a Minecraft video with him in it and one without. The lads especially seem to completely change when interacting with him.
I don't wish RT's end.
I don't like the company's decisions, yeah, especially in terms of RWBY, the thing that introduced me to them, but losing what you've built up is devistating.
In addition to all of this I think I, along with many of the fans from the "golden age" find it difficult to get back into RT even if they wanted to, as many of the talents we loved have either been fired or moved on. It's hard to become invested in these new people regardless of content
Geoff is the only one who still cares at all, which is why Achievement Hunter is basically their only content still worth watching on a regular basis.
Geoff will forever be my favorite AH member and RT member. He is so wholesome. Him on the Off Topic made me cry. I am so happy that Geoff is still on AH
@@danielross96 other than he essentially/literally left ah.
Geoff doesn't work for Achievement Hunter....
Brad Oliver What do you mean, he still works for them buf
He isnt in the group achievement hunter anymore.
He took another roll in the company
It isn't just the content that has people angry. It's also the numerous controversies.
I moved on from Rooster Teeth but seeing the channel becoming a company and seeing it tear itself apart bit by bit is depressing.
I guess all good things must come to an end.
Rooster Teeth went from a passion into a business, and that's the worst thing to become honestly
Seeing how Achievement Hunter, Rwby, and Rvb turn out makes me moody af.
Like it's not horrible but it's not what you expect from the brand
@@reyzephlyn105 agreed
I've had a similar experience, but with Smosh. I used to watch their content all the time, and even when they branched out into a second and third channel, I enjoyed those. And then.. it changed, and I was disappointed. I liked Ian and Anthony, and I enjoyed the Smosh Games crew too, and that was great. But then Ian and Anthony stopped being on Smosh Games very much. And then the Smosh Games crew started falling apart. And then Smosh brought in a bunch of new people. And then Ian and Anthony stopped being in Smosh videos very often... And at some point I realized that I watched this channel to see and enjoy the chemistry between two people who are barely there. So I stopped watching. It was disappointing, but I don't hate them for changing. I just move on.
Rooster Teeth was something I discovered via RvB appearing on youtube, probably around season 6 of the show. (2008-9) and I watched through the whole thing to that point, then discovered the RT Shorts, and other things on RUclips. I soon found Achievement Hunter's Minecraft videos (there were like 5 at the time), and while I didn't much care for achievement guides and such, the gameplay stuff had me hooked. Ten years and over 300 episodes later, I'm still watching AH Minecraft and GTA, and a lot of their other videos. In AH, I've enjoyed most of the new faces they've brought in, though Fiona and Alfredo still annoy me sometimes. I am however, far less inclined to watch RT Shorts and live action stuff now, because it feels like all the original people have stepped back from the camera and been replaced with a new group, which I liked okay, and then that team is now gradually giving up the spotlight to a new group which are.. ehh. Gus and Geoff still appear sometimes, and I'm happy to watch them inevitably be the funniest people in the room. But like, a video of Mariel and Christina and Max doing something.. I just don't care. I don't hate them or resent them for making it, nor do I resent Burnie for leaving the company. It's just disappointing. But when there are no more people that I care about, I'll stop watching. Simple as that.
To address the 'turning point' a lot of people had, I didn't have too much problem with Ray leaving. He was good and I missed him, but I very quickly grew to accept Jeremy as one of the team. He fits in super well in my opinion.
Achievement Hunter was and still is my favorite part of Rooster Teeth AND I was introduced to the whole Rooster Teeth world because of Achievement Hunter
I feel like alot of people in these comments didn't watch the whole video...
Wouldn't expect anything less...
of course not, like geoff said its all these haters that just want the company to burn because its not specifically catered to what they want
For me it was a combination of Ray leaving and seeing less of Joel.
Plus over the years I've grown to like different kinds of content.
I love Funhaus more now, the humor is just hitting it for me.
I think you’re right
@AJ Henderson Well quality of content is a really subjective term, i would have to disagree with that. Have you seen the hardcore series, arizona circle, last laugh, haunter, Gen:lock. They're all amazingly put together and fun series. I get some of the shows you loved may have dropped in quality, but people get into habit of wanting and expecting certain series. But things like hunt, or achievement guides, have died out. Not only in the public eye, but in what they have an ability to make. They will eventually run out of new idea's or content. Everything needs to end, but when there is 50% of a fanbase screaming to continue every series for the rest of eternity its a bit hard to be enthused
I needed a break from Achievement Hunter. I just drowned myself in the content and it got boring. I'm back in the saddle now though. I really enjoy the Gmod stuff and the tabletop games.
@@jsoqbwbeks2653 That is indeed an opinion.
Jeremy being a man in prop hunt...
same here I stopped watching them for a couple of years because I was being overexposed in content and it was getting stale and boring. I love watching their TTT videos and occasionally go back and watch the videos I used to enjoy. I think for me it just got to a point where it was just everyone yelling over each other and didn't find it entertaining anymore as I grew up
Everyone's talking about Roosterteeth but are we gonna ignore the fact that this guy managed to break his Nokia phone 4:14
As someone who has taken almost an identical ride with RT as in this video, I recommend getting back into AH. I'd dipped on their content for a few years, but recently the cast is as strong again as it was in the 'Golden Age'. Can't say I'm in love with every single member (there's a lot now), but new additions Jeremy, Alfredo, Trevor & Fiona all fit into the group dynamic brilliantly in their own ways.
Their TTT videos specifically are top tier, and anything with the Gavin/Fiona combo are my new favourite videos.
shit
My line of thinking:
1) The meta changed - the collective society values different things, changing our thoughts on content
2) you yourself value different things
3) RT culture values has changed
Any two of those things can cause people to feel like they no longer mesh with content. It happens, there will always new content to find.
I kind of feel like 2 and 3 are what happened to metbh.
yup
For me it was values mostly.
It makes perfect sense. The 2000s where a time where people were minding their own business and used the internet for occasional content. Now that the 2010s passed and we are in the next decade, people have gotten very picky about what they want their content to be, forcing politics and social issues down everyone else's throats, making them conform to that or raising hell if we disagree. I see it in Netflix now too, and so many other media channels. Content sucks now!
That's fine and all to say "oh people just changed" but really the truth is Rooster teeth shot themselves in the foot and they're slowly bleeding out.
To squander their business with repeated missteps and questionable business decisions blows my mind. They had it good, in some ways. Everything has to come to an end but Roosterteeth created their own demise.
Um, I beg to differ.
RT has certainly changed in the last few years. Plenty of people who started the company aren't there anymore. Plenty of scandals, not just the most recent one. They attack their own fans and tell them to fuck off on Twitter. They have declared themselves a social justice company and have hired a lot of political activists. They've even announced that they'll remove all questionable, insensitive and problematic content they've ever made, especially all the stuff you love so much from their earliest beginnings. Say goodbye to pretty much all of the content they've made for the first few years of their existence. Yes, RT has definitely changed, and not in a good way. Most of all, they've long lost the connection to their fans. Yes, Rooster Teeth has certainly changed, but I'm pretty sure people like Geoff see that and hate every bit of it. Some, like Bernie, just leave it all behind and that's fine, because I'd rather see the founders go and not get involved with the current bullshit that's going on at the company right now.
To say that only you changed is denying reality.
Rt ded kekekekeke
I've been watching Rooster Teeth Daily since 2007 everyday, watching new content, rewatching my favorite episodes. I've been a first member for 2 or so years now. I still watch alot of their content every single day. I know the times of when episodes come out and what series. I'm always excited to see what's next with Rooster Teeth. I feel very comfortable on they're website even with it's flaws. And in my experience the Community is amazing! I can't see the day coming where I will stop watching their content.
With you!!
The point he making in the video is that a lot of us felt that way. For a very long time. The way you feel about the company is the way many of us USED to feel. So it's a bit sad to let that go."You'll understand someday kid".
The saddest thing is when your heroes turn to legends. A beautiful relic of the time they where on top. Which is... not the case anymore,that's for sure. Great video.
Watched AH from 2010 to 2015, happy I saw their content in their golden years, they got me through high school, feel bad for Geoff and the shit he has gone through :/
“I can’t recognize 3 quarters of people in AH anymore” I LEGIT THOUGHT I WAS BEING NITPICKY
Honestly after Ray left AH was when I started losing interest in them. That being said, I'm obviously I'm happy hes doing his own thing
@@mercybabineaux4507 yea like legit since ray they have been using people way less funny and lacking in the brain cells to make good in game decisons (lindsay jones)
same
Quick RIP to the people who won't ever get to experience the vast entertainment brought by Jeremy, Matt, Alfredo, Trevor, or Fiona. It really does suck how people kind of "gave up" on AH after Ray left, even though their content definitely hit its best stride after 2015.
A J The Golden Age of AH was 2012-2015. I’ve been watching since Fails of the Weak and Horse, and I’ve noticed a considerable difference within AH. Sure, they may now have a better rotation of games they play, but back during the era of Ray they could pick up any game, make the video hilarious, and effortlessly rack up a million view video. Back then, every video was legitimately hilarious with great chemistry. Now, it seems they phone it in in a lot of videos. They make their GTA, Minecraft, and Gmod videos shorter now, and a lot of times they aren’t interested in the other games they play. They also moved away from gameplay on the Achievement Hunter channel and just do live-action things now, which barely get any views.
I just watched this on like Monday. And now as of today June 11, 2020, both Burnie and Joel have left Rooster Teeth. No question now, the company has changed.
It's a sad day for the internet.
Joel was a tragedy, now Burnie!? I can't find the words but it's horrible
Burnie is a huge loss Joel not so much, he was a political asshole.
@@summonerron88 To be fair, Joel is only a loss if you're still a fan of RvB. There seems to be some bad blood with his departure, so I don't see him coming back for future seasons. This likely means Caboose is being written off.
@@WeebTM2311 Nope Joel said the asked him in to record some PSA's right before firing him, so unless he gave them express permission to use his voice AFTER he left the company, that is highly illegal. Also sure Joel may have been a political asshole, but personal politics are NEVER a valid reason to fire someone.
@@megaman37456 I do recall him saying that he recorded some PSA's. I should have said that I meant story/season voicelines. The PSAs will most likely be the last we see of Caboose. Which is a shame because he was one of my favorite characters
On one hand you're right I too have changed since I started to watch them in 2009-2010. But I am not and I never was one of the hate mob. Yet RT is not the same.
Their content still looks the same but doesn't feel the same.
Most of the new shows they are producing are trying to force down your throat their own illusion of how much fun they're having when in reality you can't feel the same goofiness like before. It's like they are chained by what they can and what they can't do or they have a bunch of checkboxes they need to tick.
RvB overstayed their welcome and I hope they'll leave it resting
RWBY is a series that I stopped watching because I felt annoyed by their decision and character development or lack of it actually and the story feels empty. RWBY wasn't the best anime ever but first 3-4 season you could feel the passion, the creativity and the depth. And it's simply not there anymore.
When it comes to AH it's hit or miss most of times... Some videos are golden and a lot of fun but some videos feel like they pushed out a video for sake of pushing out a video even though the quality or entertainment value is not there. Some GTA videos make me laugh uncontrollably but some videos are boring even as background noise. MC let's plays are same. TTT are fun and you really can feel that they enjoy it and they are not doing it because they have to fulfil time slot.
I'd drink to that
I think this is the best definition of the company right now. I have changed but so has the company. I don't want the company to fail but most of their content now just isn't for me.
TTT is peak current AH and one of the only reasons I'm here for the company. Some Minecraft and GTA are gold too, and I'm always eager for when they get the Derp Crew on since that's a cast of people AH genuinely enjoys playing with. There's still videos I can't really get myself into though. For every Kamikaze there's that YDYD video of Michael walking aimlessly for half an hour. I love every one of the current cast, although Lindsay's disregard for the rules sets off my pet peeves, and seeing them genuinely having fun together is a blast. I wasn't exactly here for the older days with Ray and even Mica, but I can go back and have a laugh at older episodes even though there's a different flavor to AH now.
@@inaccurateprophecy8971 The thing is they kinda abused GTA and MC videos to the point that they can't really come up with funny or interesting ideas anymore sometimes they score gold but let's face it the first 100-200 episodes were the best when they competed for tower of Pims
@@JerziTBoss I can't exactly blame them for running dry of that kind of content since MC and GTA are the most popular things on their channel consistently for, what, a decade now? I do appreciate them playing other games with Jackbox always being a blast, but expecting them to spark new ideas like the old days is a lot to ask for with something running that long.
Honestly... what killed rooster teeth for me was the new cast members. And the fact that they’re constantly pushing their political views on us with each video. Rooster Teeth trying so hard to be PC was just enough for me to say goodbye. And now Joel has left for the same reason. A founding member just gone... I loved rooster teeth. They were a HUGE part of my teenage life.
I didn't know anyone else felt the same way I do about Rooster Teeth. I had enough when they started talking about politics. The entertainment without having to hear about what everyone else in the world was talking about was nice. It used to be an escape. Now I can't stand seeing recommendations to watch their videos.
@@mackenziemorris2703 I feel the same, the politics are what killed it for me. I don't watch their content for ignorant pandering but for video games, they deserve to be losing all their audience for failing to keep politics out of their content
I don’t care if joel was problematic, he’s an internet personality. I hate the fact that people take personalities so seriously, just don’t listen to them if you don’t agree. He’s an entertainer not a politician, just take everything with a grain of salt and form your own opinion like damm. Everything NEEDS to be so serious and taken at face value nowadays, just do and say what you want as long as you don’t hurt anyone you good
I was an OG. Been around since the VERY first video and loved the content of everything they did. To a point. For some their point was when certain people left, or were fired. Or when the videos went from 15-25 minute gold to 45 minute poorly edited talk shows on AH. Or possibly when they were bought out. There are many points and just as many variations as there are people. For me, it started with what they did to Caleb. He tried one time to get into a video and proceeded to bag on him so much that it was like they didn't even want to give the guy a chance. This, along with how they treated others who used to work there and have now gone just didn't sit well with me. Then hearing about their work environment and the toxicity of their animation department and other areas of the company just made me feel sorry for the people who worked there. I hung on for as long as I enjoyed the content, then unsubscribed. I am currently 39, I don't want to believe I aged out but maybe I did. I value my time more and more each day and I don't want to waste it on content that doesn't entertain me or is just filler because of an algorithm I'll never understand. So, goodbye RT. You provided me with countless hours of entertainment, and for that I say thank you. But for what you've become, I can only say that you've lost what little soul you had left and I hope those that are still there now can exit the company for something better, because it's only going to get worse. The only people who can retire at that company are the founders. Everyone else is on borrowed time until their views dip or corporate lays them off.
As an avid Rooster Teeth watcher going strong since 2011, I can day this was an excellent video. Even though I would disagree with some points/opinions (such as feelings towards new members of AH), I totally understand it. Jeremy will never be as good as Ray, but I can't compare the two, and instead, I see what Jeremy brings to the table that Ray didn't, while also still following Ray on Twitch for when I miss him. This video hits every mark on the head, and I'm still an RT fanboy, but I do acknowledge it's downfalls. I'll say it again, this was an excellent video and I'm glad you found it in you to complete it, even if it took 3 years, thank you for not giving up on it and delivering some great content.
Jeremy >>>>>Infinity Ray. Ray was never funny.
The problem with ray was towards the end it was so obvious he wasn't happy and it was so obvious. You can tell Jeremy has passion and cares about his work.
The problem is the diversity hires, selling out, and becoming corporate rather than a fun company owned and ran by real people not giant companies
@@n-11ordoskirata70 You mustn't have any business experience. What you call "selling out" is them trying to be able to keep bringing out newer higher quality. Without their deal with at&t they could have gone bust by now. Think about shows like haunter that cost thousands Nd thousands of dollars to film.
Christian Edmunds Yeah i know they needed the extra funding but it has in turn caused them to lose a lot of the personality to the content I think, there’s a lot of algorithmic content now beyond just the regulars like rtp, gta, minecraft. it’s just lost a lot of the true RT glamour it feels like
Can we talk about how the Nokia has a broken screen?
hello brother.
Uwu Money hello
impossible
Wasn't a 3310
Nokia: *has broken screen*
Everyone: Wait. That's illegal
This sounds like a dear john letter with lots of love written into it and honestly i think this was the best way you could have articulated this. Bravo sir.
In my opinion their downfall was selling the company, Monty dying, forcing Ray out over his personal twitch channel, and RT hiring everyone’s significant others into positions in the company. Jack’s wife went from the RT community in Australia to a job at RT, Ashley got a job at RT after dating Burnie, Michael’s wife went from part time podcast editor at RT to the exclusive editor for AH, a bunch of the other guys had their girlfriends be extras or stars in the RT shorts or modeling the merch on the website.
Not sure if it's full time but Ray is back kinda
I wanna say I stopped watching around early 2016. Watched since day 1 red vs blue and had so many good memories listening to the Drunk Tank podcast while making waffle cones at my local ice cream shop. I’m with you, I have no ill will towards them. I just got older and watched others things and when I came back I was lost. I wish them nothing but the best, and I hope they know how much of a good impact they truly made in the gaming and RUclips community!
Honestly the moment Ray left way back then is when it felt it started to lose its charm. Especially once Red Vs Blue began turning into a literal anime. Let alone once RWBY came into play... it felt like it was becoming extremely corporate. (I know RWBY Has its qualities but its story is not one of them and Monty did AMAZING work.)
I thought Ray leaving AH was a stupid decision. Now I think he saw the writing on the wall, and jumped ship before it was too late.
I stopped keeping up with RT when Ray left too
What do you mean "...turning it into a literal anime..."? Can you elaborate on this?
SeniorCharry why was it stupid for him to leave
@@SeniorCharry To be fair, Ray is doing a shit ton better with his own thing than with AH. He found more joy and accomplishment making his own content. Subscribe to his channel...It's all just Let's Plays and Achievement Hunting, but it's good stuff.
This is weird because it’s clear to me that I joined after the”golden years” my golden years were 2016
That just means you have so much great content to go back and watch man!
You joined honestly after where people saw a considerable decline in quality. There is SOOO much content including of Ray’s history with the company that you can enjoy
Honestly AH is still fine now content wise. The “golden years” idea is kinda crazy to me because all the new AH members bring so much more to AH then just ray by himself. Ray is fine but I think the root of this “golden years” concept is a bunch of OG fans that don’t like change, comedic tastes changed or who just got burned out on AH content.
I've been watching since around 2007 and 09-14 were definitely some golden years.
Folks really underappreciated the role of Griffon Ramsey at the time, among other star staff.
Same! My first series of RvB was 15. I love it, but there are previous series I love more! And I love every branch of RT, but I do tend to watch older stuff more.
Whew... This was... Something. Rooster Teeth, too, was a BIG part of my teenage years and even to this day, I miss it. Meeting Gus, Geoff, Burnie, Becca, and Matt were THE reasons I'd go to conventions. I still have my signed DVDs and will forever cherish them. (Even The Strangerhood!) I'll never forget RVBTO where I got to see Trocadero live, watch Burnie cook up and serve some bacon-wrapped jalapeno goodies for us in the park, and the memories I made with the friends I hung out with. Their site was one I'd constant be on, but it felt like as their company grew as did my lack of interest in it.
Even with all the new content (that I wasn't really a fan of) I'd still visit the site, post my journals, and comment on ones shared by my friends. Then the increase in FIRST charges where I canceled my RT sponsorship for the first time since maybe 2005. It wasn't until whenever last year they removed everything and started their site over as a Twitter clone that I finally gave up. The RT that I had grown up with was forever gone. I still check in every now and then solely for Red vs Blue, but literally nothing else on the site interests me. I'm not mad at anyone at Rooster Teeth. Like you said; they've given us free entertainment for a good seventeen years. It was through people I met through their site that I started making RUclips videos of my own. I'll forever be grateful for that. However, it's not my community anymore. They don't make content that appeals to me anymore and all the people I enjoyed talking to have long since gone. I do wish everyone at RT the best though. They've earned whatever success comes their way.
TL;DR: I still miss the RT community from 2004 and it makes me sad inside that things have changed so much.
I usually don't watch these videos. Seeing this one on my recommended list, something came over me, some kind of instinct to watch it. Never been more glad to have followed a feeling like that. This video really does encapsulate a lot of what I feel as an RT fan from the old days. I feel I've clung on more than most, I still watch RWBY and genuinely enjoy it, I watched RvB through to season 13 and honestly I loved the final three seasons. I still watch Achievement Hunter and actually find myself loving the new people more and more, Fiona has quickly become one of my favourite members of the team.
I'm not going to lie and say things are better than ever, with the new, very corporate approach to things, and big names leaving, I'm definitely filled with anxiety. But every time I sit down and question whether to cancel my first subscription, I find far more reasons to keep it going.
Seriously, thank you for making this video. You can tell just how much time has been put into every thought you've shared
Rooster Teeth has changed.
They still have passion, but it's not the same people doing the same things.
Bernie, Gus, Geoff, Matt, Joel are not in control any longer.
Joel is no longer with the company, and the original founders that remain don't answer to themselves and their customers, they answer instead, to AT&T.
They went from being their own boss(es) to taking orders from AT&T.
I hope they made bank when they sold RT to another company - which was then bought up by another company, and eventually AT&T.
I'm sure it wasn't their original plan to be owned by AT&T but once you decide to sell out, you are no longer in control.
Why do I keep mentioning AT&T? Answer me this. Do you think any of the higher ups at AT&T give a bowel movement about RT or RvB or Achievement Hunter in any way beyond $$$? Bernie, Geoff, Gus, Matt, and Joel certainly do / did. They care about their fans. To AT&T - fans are disposable and easily replaceable.
The last line feels off to me, any company that disregards it's consumers are destined to burn to the fuckin' ground
@@WHOARETHEPATRIOTS475 Businesses are too big to fail now, so they can snub the customer all they like. Sometimes it's in their interest to do so, especially if they have pseudo-monopoly. What are we going to do about it, exactly? Choices are growing more limited by the day, and more and more content is aggregating.
@@ClockworkGearhead actually not entirely true. AT&T is losing consumers left and right. Their decision making has been putting off investors/ stock analysts. They have one of the largest debts in the business world and due to rapidly declining users of their services their future is looking shaky.
@@TW-lz1qf this, if anything that recent events is telling us. Nothing is too big to fall.
dont forget this is a company whos community funded a movie in like 14 minutes that would turn a lot of heads. they would have seen potential profit there
Before finding your video, small memories of RT came to mind. I tried to watch a couple of videos to try and remember why I stopped watching. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn’t engage like I did before but still couldn’t put it into words the reason I couldn’t enjoy them like before. Your video helped put it all together and helped to move on with knowing that I’m letting go of a huge part my teenage years (not to sound emotion because it really isn’t). I think you sum it up perfectly and respectfully unlike a lot of other videos I stumbled upon before find this one. So thanks for that and it honestly was a great video! ❤️
Do you realise you wrote this like a poem?
Ivan Lunev I guess that a sigh to not comment at 2 in the morning 😅
I still feel the day that ray left
"Okay look I am not gonna say I stopped watching Rooster Teeth because Ray left."
I did.
it started feeling forced and not like friends having fun
I lost my interest with Rooster Teeth like few years back by unsubsrcribing them. Do I hate them!? Of course not! In the end I always respect them but now they change as much as I do and I learn to grown out of it and move to on in my life. I wish them nothing but best of luck in their future. Red Vs Blue 1 to 10 or 15 were one of the best series they ever made and I thank them for that.
Thank you for making this video. I agree with everything you said. I was a huge fan of RT and RvB since episode 1 of RvB. The direction roosterteeth went, and pushing aside their original fans, that helped build their company up, really depressed me. It is all just nostalgia for me now, unfortunately. You never know your in the good old days until its over.
You didn’t watch the whole video, did you?
Here I was watching and thinking, "Okay, let me see why everyone's so angry at Rooster Teeth." To my surprise, that is not the case! I'm happy I just watched this. I'm happy there's people like you to make more of the content you like instead of raging why there's no content like there used to be!
He kinda didn't mention the parts that at least most people are pissed at them for, like cutting down their videos because of RUclips bullshit, or letting one of their employees go on a genuine racist rant on a podcast, or firing beloved talent over petty drama they could have solved with a simple conversation.
@@wrpen99 who went on a racist rant? I feel like I'd be aware of something that big happened in their videos
@@mrmaccy90 ^^^^^
@@mrmaccy90 Mica on one of the Off Topics. Don't remember which one but I'm pretty sure that's why she was moved away from AH.
@@wrpen99 I barely remember anything she was in since it was that long ago plus she was only around for a bit so I assume you're saying she was racist towards white people
Thank you for helping me let go of Rooster Teeth. I used to love them. Really, truly, love them. We've both changed and I hope that they do well for themselves.
sometimes I wish I was like my friends and stopped watching during the golden years. Watching rwby fall into a total garbage, achievement hunter get dull with more new faces than new content, and the atmosphere go from fun and lighthearted to "hello fellow kids", I wish I just didn't see it happen.
Yep achievement hunter replaced rooster teeth for me. Their gmod ttt videos are the best. But honestly I think if Gavin or Michael left the company they would take the entire audience with them.
I mean there is a reason they all stream on the side (except Gavin as far as I know)
@@xpirate16 yeah with gavin being the main running force of his own pretty successful youtube channel he doesnt need the finacial support of streaming as say jeremy and ryan
As much as I hate to say it, Geoff might need to leave RT to truly be appreciated and succeed because he is a Warner's punching bag because he is so invested that he'll do anything asked but in the end when you do that it just destroys every ounce of your being. He's showing signs of before his sabatical happened now.
Can you elaborate please?
Watch the "An Honest Discussion" Off Topic episode and you will see the love Geoff has for Rooster Teeth.
@@Arthutstut641 That is why I believe he needs to leave. Needs to start fresh and get away from a very battered wife type relationship where he is fighting for a lost cause that will turn their back on him any time and it'll be nothing but deviation.
@@nickmoney i mean. I understand but I cant agree with you.
As much as it takes a lot from him, Geoff loves RT, loves his community and loves his friends that there work with him.
I believe everybody in RT really wants to make things better there. But Geoff realizes that this is the greatest thing he has ever done and its important to him
But anyways. We know him as an online figure. Himself ans those close to him will know better about whats best for him
@@Arthutstut641 Except this isn't Rooster Teeth anymore, this is animation division #6 of Warner Brothers and AT&T now. Nothing more. I enjoy Achievement Hunter and RWBY still but lost interest in rest and since Burnie "leaving", Joel getting fired and Matt pretty much doing nothing with no position just waiting for announcement he's leaving then it's sign RT is no more. Probably gonna be merged into Cartoon Network, Crunchyroll and another WB animation department within two years.
When Rooster Teeth was bought by a larger company, the magic was completely lost.
Beautifully wrapped up at the end. It's hard watching something so close to us change, and easy to forget how we're changing, too. Geoff's Off Topic dialogue put some things in perspective for me at a time when I wasn't sure how I felt about the company. Now with most of the founders basically out of the picture, a new evolution of their vision is emerging. Let's all see what the next chapter brings us.
As for their content, their TTT videos are some of the best out there, and I'm incredibly happy they partnered with Yogs, because I found Yogs after wanting more TTT.
I’d forgot I used to watch these. If you asked me, I’d have said I never really watched them. Now all the memories are coming back. I remember the clips from all random series they did
Honestly, after Ray left was when I stopped watching. I tried for a long long time but it just always felt like a piece was missing. They brought in new people many of which I liked, but the era was over. The dynamic that Ray, Geoff, Ryan, Jack, and Michael had were just unbeatable. It just hasn't been the same since.
I still enjoy the Lets Play episodes of Minecraft and & Days to Die. I lost interest in their other stuff though. That's ok, there are plenty of people who are into that other stuff. More power to them.
Same. For me, their Gmod videos are hands-down the most consistently entertaining series they've ever created. It's a shame more people don't watch them.
@@ajesco are you sure? It's the most watched series at the moment pretty much
@@nizarfakhreifakh172 What I mean is AH's views are down in general, sadly. It usually takes a couple months for even the Gmod videos to hit the mil mark.
@@ajesco that's not bad actually still we're just comparing it to old videos
@@nizarfakhreifakh172 You're def right. And I do dislike a lot of the older fans who make those types of comparisons.
Burnie leaving the RT podcast was the last straw for me.
Yeah honestly the podcast isn’t funny anymore
@@Shattuck66 care to explain him leaving? i havent watched in forever
Damn he left? I didn’t know that. I haven’t watched much of RT in the last few years. Why did he leave?
I still believe he truly stepped away for his kids
But we all also know he knew they created what descended into a monstrosity
@@noahbriske839 I mean, This guy has been there since the start, I'd like to believe he bailed soon after.
I only started watching RT about 2 and a half years ago. I wish i could have grown up with them, watched rvb when i was a kid, like you, and moved on throughout all their new adventures, but I'm glad to be watching them today. They've inspired me to create, find friends through the community, and share my passion for their content with my own family. Though i dont know how much longer they'll be making content, or rather how much longer I'll enjoy what they make, these past two years have had a constant light shining through them from this one tiny company. Thanks for not bashing them because of your own opinions, and thanks for sharing your story. I hope there'll always be a version of RT for people, something fun and inspiring, even if it isnt a stupid internet company.
I started watching in early 2004 as a kid, I grew up with them in their early years before the golden age and saw the start of the horse series, all of the guides like ones for just cause 2 and loving every video that started with “what’s up guys it’s jack and Geoff” I didn’t know it at the time but while I was in middle school, the company, through almost all of their forms of content, helped me grow into the person that I am today. I always faced a moral dilemma when it came to watching their content these past few years and was almost upset with myself at times for not knowing what happened. But you’re right, I changed and my experience as a fan has never changed and never will, they hold such a special place in my heart and I thank them for that. Thank you for making this video
i remember Burnie doing a short video on how RT is run. They had to do things in order for the company to survive for good or bad. For a company like RT that relies on subscriptions and merchandise to survive the world financial crises and its (still on going) recovery, youtube issues and the current pandemic just show how good of a business RT is. Just like in life RT have had there hits and misses, they have messed up on occasions and i hope they learn from them. As with the current event with Joel , untill more information or statement is made by Joel or RT im not going to comment.
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Didn't they terminate Megan for having a second job?
This was both a heartfelt and mature analysis, and I appreciate it, yo.
I remember watching RvB, Let’s Plays, and whatever else they had to offer only 6 about years ago. Monty came in and made some actual life changing parts of RvB for me. Then he created RWBY, and he became my inspiration for digital art. His passing hit me really hard. It was a bit after that that I started watching their content less and less. Not because I felt that without him I didn’t fee connected, but because after period of moving and hoping things would get better after him, it didn’t. The Vic controversy came up, and nothing but all this hate for the company and this want for them to crash and burn. I love RT, so seeing it coming to this hurts me as a long time fan. I will have hope things turn around some day and as a fan, I’m not giving up. People can hate something someone said or did, but don’t hurt everyone else around them.
What was the Vic controversy?
SnakeEyesss Clone Not aware of it? Vic Mignogna was one of the more famous anime dub voice actors. He was famous for characters like Edward Elric and Dragon Ball’s Broly. He was also Qrow’s VA for RWBY between volumes 3-6. Last year when the Broly movie came out it was a major hit. But days after the movie came out in theaters, stories of Vic being a sexual harasser and a pedo started coming up. Things like this are common, people saying horrible things to try and ruin someone successful. But then another voice actor accused him of being harassed by him. Vic was quickly and publicly fired from Roosterteeth, Funimation, and cancelled from Conventions. A lot of people started supporting the woman who accused Vic. Some other Voice actors like Christ Sabot and Sean Shemmel started supporting her. But VAs started supporting Vic too, like Todd Haberkorn who was once in some sexual harassment trouble and was proven faults. Vic started to get a lot of hate, despite many things like said voice actors very recently having fun with Vic, showing and even saying they liked the guy. A lot of inconsistencies with stories, such as a witness that was said to have been in her story saying he doesn’t remember anything bad happening. Many of the harassment stories being nothing but Vic being loving guy who hugs and kisses a lot of his fans since he’s Italian. And a lack of proof he actually did anything illegal.
Just look up kickvic and I stand with Vic videos for more information. They go back to January 2019.
@@sibsart2039 thanks for such a quick and detailed response man
SnakeEyesss Clone you’re welcome
@@SnakeEyesssClone It was basically cancel culture being cancel culture towards a devote christian guy for being christian and not "progressive".
Rooster Teeth was such a great thing when I was a kid. I remember watching their short videos and having such a great laugh. Sad to hear Burnie leaving, but I haven't watched their content in a year. Used to binge so much of their content, but eventually I was turned off. Now I'm more of a Funhaus person
I thought I was the only one that felt this way. Thank you, you've literally answered a question I didn't even know needed to be asked.
While I didn’t stop watching because Ray left, I had stopped watching around that time because I had felt that the company had lost or was starting to lose its initial charm that had drawn me in years before.
But it hadn’t, the company just evolved and grew in a way that had grown outside my interests. I’m sure that new generations of viewers will come these days and fall in love with what the company is doing, like I had years ago, and I’m sure the time will come when they too grow out of it as the company begins to evolve.
Nothing lasts forever
I think my rose tinted glasses for them dissapeared when AH stopped doing the Let's Watches. I still enjoyed the Let's Plays but the Let's Watches were comforting to me. I used to watch my brother play story based games and when I left for college it was something I really missed, the Let's Watches kinda made me feel less homesick. I watched every single one. When they stopped doing them and people asked why Jack said on a podcast "we really enjoy doing them and we'd love to keep doing them, but they don't get enough views. If you want us to keep making them you have to actually watch them." and I don't know to me it just suddenly made the point hammer home that this wasn't a few friends making videos together for fun anymore, it started to feel more to me that RT was now mainly driven by viewcount and profit margins. Once I got that feeling I just stopped enjoying their content. It felt less genuine. To be honest I probably just grew up from the parasocial relationship I'd formed as a kid. I still appreciate all the content they gave us throughout they years, but their content isn't for me anymore.
I feel like while they've obviously always tried to be successful, in the old days it felt more like they were just doing what they thought was funny/good and thankfully it worked but these days it feels like the main factor is "what will the RUclips algorithm like" or "sponsors like" or "social media" like and then they try to figure out how to make that funny. I think that's why its been a long time since I watched any of the rt stuff, I mainly watch the odd ah video if its a game I like or the ah based podcasts as those generally feel a little more like friends just being funny and not trying g for views etc..
Exactly this is what I've felt with AH lately. I resubbed to them to watch YDYD but almost every other game series they put out feels so forced for the sake of views. GTA, some Minecraft, Gmod, the thumbnails themselves scream that they're seeking that algorithm and trying to get kids to click. Half the time I can't even tell what game it is I'm seeing in my sub feed.
Very rarely do I get the feeling that they're having fun and it's not fun to watch them force comedy. Guess it all feels too cooperate :(
This video honestly made me quite emotional. I think the reason I drifted out of RT's content a bit was that as my life got busier and more stressful for a period of time, I was overwhelmed by the sheer amount of content they had from all their various channels and I didn't feel like I was enjoying their content as consistently as before. However, I realise now that it was just because I was so overwhelmed with everything going on in my personal life that I didn't give the content that felt less familiar as much of a chance. Loved the respect and love you showed RT in this video and thoroughly enjoyed it; very well crafted and thought provoking! Thanks so much for making it and putting in the amount of effort you did :)
i really love this video- you can tell all of the work you put into it and how deeply rooster teeth has affected you. i only started watching rooster teeth content in 2017, so i will never really understand what it means to grow up with it and be so deeply affected by it, and then have to see it change in ways you don’t like. i, from only being a fan for about 3 years now, love a lot of what they’re doing now, but when i watch older videos i can see how much it’s changed and if i had started watching earlier i don’t know how i would feel. nostalgia is just like that i guess. i’m sure in 10 years when there’s a whole new achievement hunter cast i’ll miss my “good ol’ days” with fiona and alfredo and the rest of the crew just like you guys miss ray. either way, i respect you so much for growing and changing over the course of making this video and seeing everything from a different perspective- it shows a lot about a persons character when they can admit they’ve changed, especially when it’s about something so important to them. anyway, this comment got away from me, awesome video.
Is it still the same now? considering the last few months? Half of the OG is gone, and are apparently not thrilled with each other.
I'm make a longer comment later but simply, Warner media hollowed out Rooster teeth.
This easily the best video I’ve seen about Rooster Teeth, I love em, I grew up with em, I still watch em but there’s problems I have with the company, I almost dint want to watch this because I don’t wanna watch those dumb and ridiculous hate video about the end of rooster teeth because frankly they’re extremely negative while this video highlights the good and the bad, it was extremely well done and should be shown to people that are done with Rooster teeth, just move on, I’ll continue to watch cause I still love the AH guys, but with recent events..... I get the feeling the fandom and the company has more trials and tribulations that they’ll have to overcome
im really glad you ended on the note you did. it's seeing geoff's passion in that exact clip that has kept me following and supporting them. it's knowing that, despite all the hard choices and adversity they face, they still fucking love their job and their community. i remember some of the shakeups before they had to layoff those 50 employees, like ashley voluntarily leaving; that move alone saved about 2 or 3 jobs. they try to make the sacrifices they feel are right to keep their company going, not for money, but for the love of it all. i love the idiots at achievement hunter, and follow them daily, even if the content isnt that good, because i want to keep investing myself into what they do. i may not follow the main branch of rt as much any more (really need to catch up on rvb one of these days), but i still do what i can to keep that ship sailing. it may not be the golden age at the moment, but they could always hit another one soon
I came to know RT through RWBY in 2014, and it's a truly life-changing experience to watch it grow while Monty was still creating it.
I made many videos about my feelings about RT's handling of RWBY since Monty's passing, with each video representing a change of perspective. At one point I wanted it all to burn too. It felt like the words of those of us who didn't like the change was falling on deaf ears, and probably still are. But in the end, it is what it is. RWBY belongs to RT, regardless of how it's handled, so the most we as fans can do is hope for the best, and adapt, and create our own stuff, the way that we like it. The company is going through controversy after controversy, so it's hard to say how it'll end up, but I still hope they can turn things around.
That clip of Geoff almost crying broke me
Wait what, timestamp?
@@AlistairAi Toward the very end? Where he's talking about how he Hope's his critics make a better company than RT?
Better not not watch Off Topic 236 then... he actually cries in that one. It broke me :/
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I can’t really say I feel bad tbh.
I can't exactly put it into words but I can tell this has come from a deep love of rooster teeth and regret of how it's become less enjoyable. Not even AH has been spared after what Ryan Haywood done.
RT has become really hard to watch but I know both me and thousands of other fans will remember how good it was in it's prime.
Yeeeah the whole Ryan uh "reveal" left a very sour taste in my mouth & it legit ruined most if not all of old AH's videos for me. I just... Can't watch them with the same amount of fondness I used to have, knowing what I know now. Same thing; can't put it into words but it all just feels so tainted after everything that's happened.
Who woulda known that his awkward first appearence in the Minecraft let's play would feel so... uncanny now.
I just don’t like how Monty and his wife were treated. Not to mention them going woke tends to invite disaster.
They’re sooooooo fucking woke on the outside but every time you peek behind the curtain it’s racism, poor working conditions, and bigotry. The worst of both worlds.
Your effort can't go unnoticed. I haven't been checking most of rooster teeth' work however I was always hooked to Inside Gaming back in the days of Machinima and then I kept following the guys till they ended up in FunHaus, then rebooting IG again and now most of them are gone. Can't say that I hate the new guys, I still watch their content but I don't genuinely laugh at their content as I did in the days of original staff (I know there were others before them too).
Seeing all that content for free for different phases from my life is definitely a privilege and I'm at the point where I'm planning on doing my own content, not for the money but just as a hobby to keep all the inspiration I saw throughout my life "alive". I have to say its people like them and YOU who really motivate me to spend tons of effort on something I like without the immediate need to monetize content.
Thank you for your thorough video and for speaking your mind out loud. If it's any consolation it really did help shape some of my thoughts and helped to inspire me as well. Whether you're going to carry on making videos or not, I really do wish you the best.
I know I'm a year late but thanks for making this.