Controversial Q&A (MOGAI, non-dysphoric trans people, neopronouns)
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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I Love how open and compassionate you are! We need more people like this even though I don’t know how I feel about some of your opinions :)
also, to add on to the mogai thing, i totally understand your feelings. the way i see it, mogai started out as an alternative for lgbtq+, but the common usage of it now is to refer to lesser known identities, such as microidentities and xenogenders !
ik this is old but abt the nondysphoric thing: mostly it means we don't feel dysphoria in the ,, traditional, widely-understood way? ig?? we tend to focus more on euphoria, bc it's better. like i don't hate my body or anything, but it /could/ be better, and i would feel more comfortable if i wasn't seen as my agab. so it's like -- it's not bad, but it could be better yk? and we use the term "nondysphoric" to sort of bring the conversation away from pain and more towards happiness (at least that's what ive gathered so far). hope this helped :]
also i love how respectful you are to these ppl despite not understanding them! we need more ppl like you in the community tbh
My mind has been expanded since making this, guess I’m due for another lol. Thanks for your comment!
i always get scared clicking on videos like this bc of the comment section but this one proved to be very constructive and open minded :DD good job ppl
Regarding Dysphoria:
There are a lot of reasons to transition besides bodily dysphoria. As far as transmasculine people are concerned (since that's the experience we both share), someone who does not experience dysphoria could choose to transition largely because of the society that we live in - because, while they do not see their body as inherently feminine, other people do, and it is safer and easier to make changes that allow other people to see them as their correct gender, even though they already comfortably see themselves that way.
I don't hate my breasts. I don't believe that the way my body is shaped is inherently feminine or masculine, because "feminine" and "masculine" are just made up concepts. However, I hate the unwanted attention I get because of my breasts. I hate the way cis men stare at my body. I also hate not being able to take my shirt off in the summer when it's hot outside. My breasts make running difficult. They sometimes make my back hurt. It's because of these things that top surgery will be a part of my trans experience. But.... none of those reasons are really... dysphoria.
I also think that at some point, it's healthy and good for us as a community to stop identifying ourselves by the things that hurt us, and start identifying ourselves by the things that bring us joy. Sure, we can ask "Does being associated with your assigned gender make you feel bad?" but we can also ask "Does being associated with your correct gender make you feel good?" and one can exist without the other, for some people. Our lives do not need to be defined by pain and discomfort and sadness and anxiety. They can be defined by that incredible sense of rightness and safety and self-love that finds us during unexpected moments of affirmation and grace.
Suffering is not necessary. We do not have to suffer in order to be recognized for who we are.
I think Alok Vaid-Menon put it well when they said "I was not born in the wrong body. I was born in the wrong world."
Less talk about gender dysphoria. More talk about gender EUPHORIA.
Less emphasis on what we must change about our bodies to fit into the society where we live, and more talk about how we must change society in order to be safe in our bodies.
But isn't gender euphoria, the result of gender dysphoria being relieved? It doesn't make sense to me that someone would feel that something has been 'fixed' by changing their gender if there was nothing wrong with identifying with their gender assigned at birth
all of that is completely different than gender dysphoria. keep those things separate. transgender people wouldn’t not need to transition if society changed.
@@jacobm6617 that's transphobic you absolute clown. gender is not socially constructed it's in our brains
@@jacobm6617 Trans people who aren't dysphoric wouldn't need to transition. Trans people who are dysphoric would still need to transition.
That fucking simple lmao
I personally prefer neopronouns to they/them because when I use neopronouns I feel like they better represent how I feel about my gender but I also understand that they/them is not only easier to use but also more common so although they/them sometimes still feels incorrect I don’t mind using it since it is easier for others.
And not all trans people take hormones/get surgery
Daniel Sniderman true!!!
haven’t finished watching yet, but wanted to share my thoughts about neopronouns: (for clarification’s sake: i use he/him/his, identify mostly on the binary but not completely) and obviously can’t speak for anyone else, but my understanding is that some folks use neopronouns rather than they/them/theirs if those folks feel particularly uncomfortable with the idea of a singular they. this of course doesn’t account for all neopronoun-users, but figured i’d add that, as i know of a few folks who follow that line of reasoning. (Okay now gonna finish watching the video)
But can't they see how that would be extremely confusing to literally everybody else, including other trans people? I feel very sorry for people who are uncomfortable with he, she, and even they, and feel the need to make up other pronouns for themselves because they will never be respected. I will never respect a made up word someone tells me to use when referring to them because I think it's absolutely ridiculous, I'll try to use their name instead.
@@jugular2797 where........where tf do you think words come from?
@@jugular2797 pronouns were made make the peraon use them feel comfortable and safe not the person using them
Tbh I use neopronoun because it gives me that gender euphoria! Yum
What pronouns? Do people use them irl for you? Hope I don’t sound rude, I’m just interested! Don’t feel obligated to reply if you don’t want to
@@feelsgoodmanlol I'm curios too!
People may use ze/zim/zer instead of they/them/their because of people saying "they/them is always plural" (it's not)
True, just not always. I use nya/nyaself, it/its and they/them; it just fits me better
God i hate that intro