Yes, I agree with you... Apple prices are high... but you are lucky that you live in the USA, in Europe or other countries are more expensive. But for me still a good value because I used my Macs for more than 10 years.
i agree in regards to the longevity of macs. I do have an iMac from 2010 that I now run Fedora Linux on and it is still going. I do wonder if the Apple Silicon ones will experience the same shelf life.
@@BrandonStecklein I built a Ryzen 7 32gig DDR5 1TB RTX 4060pc for $1000 and a used M1 16:512 macbook air for $500! I think that was the best value for $1500 of my hard earned money! 😂
totally agree, the new machines are to expensive for what you get... serious... 8GB ram, for more then web stuff you need 16 or it will use ssd as swap, oh and yes that is also soldered and since swap memory will be eating your ssd your ssd will dy sooner so you want at least 16Gb ram. 8Gb is in a base model since 6 years or something... 16 is really basic now. Here i europe the base model got €430,= more expensive, but you are not getting that lot more power, almost nothing compared to the M2. But you will need to pay €430 more for a hdmi port, XDR display and a sd card reader. No this is really too expensive. €230 for 8Gb that is expensive memory.... so what should be a base model is €2.259,00, while the old 13" Mbp base was €1599, yes it had 8Gb and 256GB ssd but in 2023? no way... base model is base model and it should have 16Gb ram and 512Gb SSD easy as that. And again the M3 is not faste rthen the M2, it is about the same (20% faster then the M1) oh and i loose a touchbar! (which is more expensive then some more buttons on a keyboard!)... i also skip this one
Storage prices are the main way that Apple boost profit for their shareholders while ripping off their (of course endlessly loyal and hopelessly vendor locked-in customers). Apple has many years denied all storage upgrades, knowing that they can this way extort money out of people for more RAM, since they can't but it on the free market at normal reasonable prices. Notice a pattern: when you order, your mac hardware's price stays normal till you come to the RAM and the storage options, at which point it balloons to insane levels.
I bought a used Dell 5491 laptop for work (price less than $500) Specs: 14 inches Full HD IPS, i5 8400H 4.2 Ghz 4 Cores/8 Threads, Nvidia MX130 GDDR5, 2TB SSD m.2 (gen 4), 32 RAM DDR4 (16x2). I look at Apple's prices and I'm scared.
It’s funny, when you go on marketplace or whatever sales site, 99% of Macs that people are dumping are the 8gb/256gb models. I think the only reason apple sells these is for stupid family members that want to buy their relatives a Mac but it’s completely unusable and they just end up selling it.
8 GB of RAM is the biggest money maker for Apple: It sells well because the price is still OK, but then soon after this computer will have to go on the trash, because the memory is unusable small for pretty much anything AND of course thanks to the rip off by Apple, you can't upgrade it or expand it, like on any other normal device (i.e. a PC). Then the person has to but ANOTHER laptop, this time getting ripped off by having to massively overpay for 16 or 32 GB of RAM. What do you do in the PC space when the PC manufacturer tries to rip you off with the storage / memory cost? You just get the cheapest RAM and then just buy it on the free market for almost nothing and in 5 minutes, you have upgraded your RAM, takes absolutely no skill. That is the advantage if you live in the free world and in a free open market, instead of the Apple vendor lock-in.
Expensive and Apple, overpriced and rip off have been synonyms for Apple for a long time. Nothing that Apple sells has a good price / performance ratio.
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The scary thing is that the people will buy whatever apple sells them.
Sad but true
Yes I would buy a apple napkin
Yes, I agree with you... Apple prices are high... but you are lucky that you live in the USA, in Europe or other countries are more expensive. But for me still a good value because I used my Macs for more than 10 years.
i agree in regards to the longevity of macs. I do have an iMac from 2010 that I now run Fedora Linux on and it is still going. I do wonder if the Apple Silicon ones will experience the same shelf life.
Fewer innovations, higher prices! Apple…. Give us your damn money😂
sounds about right!
@@BrandonStecklein I built a Ryzen 7 32gig DDR5 1TB RTX 4060pc for $1000 and a used M1 16:512 macbook air for $500! I think that was the best value for $1500 of my hard earned money! 😂
totally agree, the new machines are to expensive for what you get... serious... 8GB ram, for more then web stuff you need 16 or it will use ssd as swap, oh and yes that is also soldered and since swap memory will be eating your ssd your ssd will dy sooner so you want at least 16Gb ram. 8Gb is in a base model since 6 years or something... 16 is really basic now. Here i europe the base model got €430,= more expensive, but you are not getting that lot more power, almost nothing compared to the M2. But you will need to pay €430 more for a hdmi port, XDR display and a sd card reader. No this is really too expensive. €230 for 8Gb that is expensive memory.... so what should be a base model is €2.259,00, while the old 13" Mbp base was €1599, yes it had 8Gb and 256GB ssd but in 2023? no way... base model is base model and it should have 16Gb ram and 512Gb SSD easy as that. And again the M3 is not faste rthen the M2, it is about the same (20% faster then the M1) oh and i loose a touchbar! (which is more expensive then some more buttons on a keyboard!)... i also skip this one
That European pricing is insane. I am just floored by all of the Apple apologist channels out there touting these as worthwhile upgrades!
Whats crazy is the higher storage options give no discount for buying more storage. A 1TB ssd is 2x the price of the 512gb.
agreed
Storage prices are the main way that Apple boost profit for their shareholders while ripping off their (of course endlessly loyal and hopelessly vendor locked-in customers). Apple has many years denied all storage upgrades, knowing that they can this way extort money out of people for more RAM, since they can't but it on the free market at normal reasonable prices. Notice a pattern: when you order, your mac hardware's price stays normal till you come to the RAM and the storage options, at which point it balloons to insane levels.
I bought a used Dell 5491 laptop for work (price less than $500) Specs: 14 inches Full HD IPS, i5 8400H 4.2 Ghz 4 Cores/8 Threads, Nvidia MX130 GDDR5, 2TB SSD m.2 (gen 4), 32 RAM DDR4 (16x2). I look at Apple's prices and I'm scared.
I'm scared too, but it sounds like you got a good deal on the laptop!
@@BrandonStecklein Thanks, I'm glad you're making videos again.
Welcome to the club :)
It’s funny, when you go on marketplace or whatever sales site, 99% of Macs that people are dumping are the 8gb/256gb models. I think the only reason apple sells these is for stupid family members that want to buy their relatives a Mac but it’s completely unusable and they just end up selling it.
yes I have noticed the same thing
8 GB of RAM is the biggest money maker for Apple: It sells well because the price is still OK, but then soon after this computer will have to go on the trash, because the memory is unusable small for pretty much anything AND of course thanks to the rip off by Apple, you can't upgrade it or expand it, like on any other normal device (i.e. a PC). Then the person has to but ANOTHER laptop, this time getting ripped off by having to massively overpay for 16 or 32 GB of RAM. What do you do in the PC space when the PC manufacturer tries to rip you off with the storage / memory cost? You just get the cheapest RAM and then just buy it on the free market for almost nothing and in 5 minutes, you have upgraded your RAM, takes absolutely no skill. That is the advantage if you live in the free world and in a free open market, instead of the Apple vendor lock-in.
same with the insulting ssd capacity. the macbook i have to use for work has 512 and even there i run into storage issues for software development
Expensive and Apple, overpriced and rip off have been synonyms for Apple for a long time. Nothing that Apple sells has a good price / performance ratio.
agreed