Girl from Oslo here (the capital if you didn't know) when it comes to the female articles, I NEVER use "ei" in front of feminine words, in some places in the country you will almost never hear "ei". So you really don't need to use it. When it comes to -a/-en though it's more divided. For a lot of words I would use -a, for a lot -en and for many I will use both. To use -a is also more common when speaking than writing I think. -en is also often considered more "proper". So lower class people would often say "hytta" when higher class would say "hytten" (it means "the cabin") (This probably mostly applies to the Oslo dialect though.)
All I needed was a simple explanation of gender differences and a list of how they effect the spelling, something many language apps and books fail to explain clearly. This is what I needed! You've simplified something that to me, an hour ago had found confusing and illogical.
I only took one year of German in high school, but I remember our teacher explaining gendered words in a way that stuck with me. It’s more about the word (that is, the combination of letters to make that word) than it is about the actual object. ☺️
Thank you very much you share this video. I'm Hindi native speaker and language lover. I know French, Spanish, Italian, German. But i was so confused in Norwegian Articles. Thanks your lesson is helpful.
Genders are easier in Spanish though because there are only two and you can generally tell the gender simply by noticing which letter the word ends in.
Nice video! My question is: even though common gender (male+female) is an accepted alternative in bokmål, how common is it? It seems to me that the majority of spoken and written Norwegian still retains the three genders.
Just from what i've watched so far, I get the impression that an English speaking person might be able to start reading Norwegian fairly quickly, but it might take a lifetime to get the pronunciation right. Are the many silent and almost muted letters the result of the two different writing systems? In other words, are we looking at Bokmal spelling that perhaps represents an originally different pronunciation of words that have changed since then? Perhaps much in the same way that English spelling was once fairly phonetic and is not now very phonetic any more?
English itself isn't a phonetic language and it's not even my 1st language, if you speak perfect English as a native or you learnt it, norwegian is gonna be far easier
Dude, I really enjoy your videos. Thanks so much :) And in this one, I laughed hard at the annoyance in your tone when you said "an exception" xD But I think, you're pronouncing things a little "too clean". I mean, that's good for when you start to learn the language but as I start to figure, that's really not how you guys talk ^^ So it would be nice if you could maybe pronounce everything also in a faster, more day-to-day-like manner - if that's doable and not too much to ask, of course. Thanks again, keep it up :)
Hello, You say that we can treat any feminine noun as if it were masculine, and this is exactly what my textbook says as well. However, I use an app to connect with native speakers online and they told me that if I use the masculine form for some feminine nouns (e.g., jenten, kjerringen..) I would sound weird or at least non-native like. I understand there is no one standard written Norwegian language. I understand also there is no one standard Norwegian pronunciation. And now I also come to realize there is also not a standard way to assign gender of nouns. But I hope there is at least one form that is most common for each noun in Norwegian. If that is so, is there a nice dictionary you can recommend that actually tells you which that form is for every noun? I have found a dictionary online that gives you several forms acceptable to Bokmaal, but how do I now which one to remember? PS. I know I will always sound as a foreigner, but I would like to sound as good as possible. I would really appreciate if you can help me (and perhaps other learners having the same problems) by replying here. Thanks, Peter
The choice of using feminine or masculine form for a feminine noun has to do with dialects. In and around Bergen, the second biggest city of Norway, people use masculine form. Elsewhere in the country the feminine is mainly used. So if you choose the masculine form, people might think you have been in or come from Bergen.
I am from Oslo. And I use 2,5 genders. So I say for example en dør (masculine form en), but døra (feminine ending -a). So it is not consistent in my dialect
I agree with you, it would be better to have no gender for articles, only neutral articles. Gender is obvious or irrelevant if you talk about a person or useless when you talk about an object. It doesn't switch what you mean if you say the chair is masculine. Plus it doesn't mean much. What would also be better is to have a word alone to say if the word is indefinite or definite, plural or singular. For example, et for indefinite, en for definite, ei for singular, er for plural. The apples would be : en er eple; an apple would be : et ei eple. No change to the noun. The logic is one idea, one word. You could have a single word to say if it's definite or indefinite and singular or plural at the same time. That would bring the count of articles to 4. It would also be crushing two ideas together but it would be less words and you could put the article more easily at the end of the noun (I don't know where that last practise comes from but it's typically Scandinavian and it does make the sentence more fluid). You disappoint me a little bit on those 2 points Norwegian, lol.
Your videos don't work while my phone is closed which defeats the purpose of hands free learning.. is there a way you can fix that? You have the only videos on RUclips that don't play without the screen being on draining my battery and data that much quicker :/
«Unfortunately we have gender nouns in norwegian»….. «laughs in German until she remembers that gender nouns in Norway are not necessarily the same gender as in Germany»
@@lostn65 Well it's not really guessing, usually you can tell from the context and sentence structure which form is being used. For example "Jeg spiste eplet" would mean "I ate the apple", if speaking of a single action/event. "jeg spiste eple" would be a general statement about the past meaning "I ate apple". Generally there is no confusion involved and 9/10 times you can tell which form is being used just from hearing the phrase with context
This idea of choosing whether you use Ei/En surprises me. Easy takk
Girl from Oslo here (the capital if you didn't know) when it comes to the female articles, I NEVER use "ei" in front of feminine words, in some places in the country you will almost never hear "ei". So you really don't need to use it. When it comes to -a/-en though it's more divided. For a lot of words I would use -a, for a lot -en and for many I will use both. To use -a is also more common when speaking than writing I think. -en is also often considered more "proper". So lower class people would often say "hytta" when higher class would say "hytten" (it means "the cabin") (This probably mostly applies to the Oslo dialect though.)
Mange takk. It helps a lot
If you say "hytten" you're likely to be considered a snob, except in Bergen, where it is the norm.
@@Muchoyo this is very interesting information
Tussent takk. I'm beginner in learning Norwegian and I need more information about country , language specifications and dialects. Tussen takk ❤❤❤.
All I needed was a simple explanation of gender differences and a list of how they effect the spelling, something many language apps and books fail to explain clearly. This is what I needed! You've simplified something that to me, an hour ago had found confusing and illogical.
I only took one year of German in high school, but I remember our teacher explaining gendered words in a way that stuck with me. It’s more about the word (that is, the combination of letters to make that word) than it is about the actual object. ☺️
Thank you very much you share this video. I'm Hindi native speaker and language lover.
I know French, Spanish, Italian, German. But i was so confused in Norwegian Articles.
Thanks your lesson is helpful.
Aab tuze aati hogi na Norwayian 3 sal hoo gaye 🤨
I'm from Maharashtra 🤩
Muze shikhayega kya 🤨, muze hhii nahii pata mai q shikh raha huu ye Norwayian 😖
Very good way to learn Norwegian. Tusen Takk.
"We are not gonna learn any more grammar, yay"
Its not a yay! Grammar is the best part of learning a language!!
That’s true 😜
preach
Not French Grammar
I don’t even know English grammar very well, so it’s difficult.
@@sabn9139 I love reading these types of comments Because Yes 😂
Ive Been using drops to Learn vocab but They have no grammer lessons so This realy helped
yeah me too
Drops could have been a great app if they weren't such cheapskates. Just make your own flashcards on Anki
This video finally made this make sense. Thx
I was downcast when you said Norwegian has gendered nouns; but it seems they're not as strict as they are in Spanish. So that's good! Tusen takk!
Genders are easier in Spanish though because there are only two and you can generally tell the gender simply by noticing which letter the word ends in.
Estoy aprendiendo noruego tus vídeos son excelentes muchas gracias.
Nice video! My question is: even though common gender (male+female) is an accepted alternative in bokmål, how common is it? It seems to me that the majority of spoken and written Norwegian still retains the three genders.
Tusen takk ❤️
I love this language
Tusen Takk enjoying your videos and your voice and calm way to pronounce helping alot to concentrate 🤗
Takk for serien, det hjelper! Jeg prøver å laere norsk, men det er helt vanskelig for meg.
Very interesting way of teaching thank you!
I like your hip-hop influenced "Mr. Roger's Neighborhood" introduction. :D
Tusen takk!
This guy has an Uber nice voice.
Good thank you
Just from what i've watched so far, I get the impression that an English speaking person might be able to start reading Norwegian fairly quickly, but it might take a lifetime to get the pronunciation right. Are the many silent and almost muted letters the result of the two different writing systems? In other words, are we looking at Bokmal spelling that perhaps represents an originally different pronunciation of words that have changed since then? Perhaps much in the same way that English spelling was once fairly phonetic and is not now very phonetic any more?
English itself isn't a phonetic language and it's not even my 1st language, if you speak perfect English as a native or you learnt it, norwegian is gonna be far easier
tusen takk
Dude, I really enjoy your videos. Thanks so much :)
And in this one, I laughed hard at the annoyance in your tone when you said "an exception" xD
But I think, you're pronouncing things a little "too clean". I mean, that's good for when you start to learn the language but as I start to figure, that's really not how you guys talk ^^
So it would be nice if you could maybe pronounce everything also in a faster, more day-to-day-like manner - if that's doable and not too much to ask, of course.
Thanks again, keep it up :)
I second this
Tusen takk)
Great lesson
Very good video! 😄Thanks!
And who said in the last lesson that Norwegian was easy?!! Any way, thanks, mate.
Awesome work
1:00 Treating female nouns as if they were male, does that work the other way around as well?
No :)
Hello,
You say that we can treat any feminine noun as if it were masculine, and this is exactly what my textbook says as well. However, I use an app to connect with native speakers online and they told me that if I use the masculine form for some feminine nouns (e.g., jenten, kjerringen..) I would sound weird or at least non-native like. I understand there is no one standard written Norwegian language. I understand also there is no one standard Norwegian pronunciation. And now I also come to realize there is also not a standard way to assign gender of nouns. But I hope there is at least one form that is most common for each noun in Norwegian. If that is so, is there a nice dictionary you can recommend that actually tells you which that form is for every noun? I have found a dictionary online that gives you several forms acceptable to Bokmaal, but how do I now which one to remember?
PS. I know I will always sound as a foreigner, but I would like to sound as good as possible. I would really appreciate if you can help me (and perhaps other learners having the same problems) by replying here.
Thanks,
Peter
The choice of using feminine or masculine form for a feminine noun has to do with dialects. In and around Bergen, the second biggest city of Norway, people use masculine form. Elsewhere in the country the feminine is mainly used. So if you choose the masculine form, people might think you have been in or come from Bergen.
Tusen takk :-)
Takk skal du ha!
Why is it jenta and døra but not kvinna?
"ei" is pronounced more like the English word "eye" in the southern dialects
Ah! So I'm not imaging hearing different pronunciations at times.
It helps a lot, i was totaly descourage . Thank you
Exception to the rule: for example barna - the children😂🙃
barnet - the child ?
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Hello, can you make us an interview of job in norwgian please
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Takk for alt!
I am from Oslo. And I use 2,5 genders. So I say for example en dør (masculine form en), but døra (feminine ending -a). So it is not consistent in my dialect
I agree with you, it would be better to have no gender for articles, only neutral articles. Gender is obvious or irrelevant if you talk about a person or useless when you talk about an object. It doesn't switch what you mean if you say the chair is masculine. Plus it doesn't mean much. What would also be better is to have a word alone to say if the word is indefinite or definite, plural or singular. For example, et for indefinite, en for definite, ei for singular, er for plural. The apples would be : en er eple; an apple would be : et ei eple. No change to the noun. The logic is one idea, one word. You could have a single word to say if it's definite or indefinite and singular or plural at the same time. That would bring the count of articles to 4. It would also be crushing two ideas together but it would be less words and you could put the article more easily at the end of the noun (I don't know where that last practise comes from but it's typically Scandinavian and it does make the sentence more fluid). You disappoint me a little bit on those 2 points Norwegian, lol.
0:40 same here xD
Does skålene mean "the toasts" or "the bowls"?
+Denebdaisy both. But you would rarely see it used for "the toasts" (it refers to the toast you do at a dinner before you drink)
Your videos don't work while my phone is closed which defeats the purpose of hands free learning.. is there a way you can fix that? You have the only videos on RUclips that don't play without the screen being on draining my battery and data that much quicker :/
+Drew Bilyeu Hey Drew. Sorry I have no clue why that would be the case
«Unfortunately we have gender nouns in norwegian»….. «laughs in German until she remembers that gender nouns in Norway are not necessarily the same gender as in Germany»
Greek LOL too...
I would say en jente not ei jente.
depends on the dialect of the speaker
themetricsystem Yes and I am from Oslo.
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Oh my God... now nothing will be the same... I can't get rid of the picture in my mind - tre gutter are lying in the gutter...
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norwegian is easy as hell holy shit
Yeay 😂
i find it hard to hear the difference between eple, eplet, and epler. Norwegians speak fast so I can't tell the difference.
Eple and eplet sound identical
@@SimpleNorwegian so you have to guess from context which one they are saying?
@@lostn65 Well it's not really guessing, usually you can tell from the context and sentence structure which form is being used. For example "Jeg spiste eplet" would mean "I ate the apple", if speaking of a single action/event. "jeg spiste eple" would be a general statement about the past meaning "I ate apple". Generally there is no confusion involved and 9/10 times you can tell which form is being used just from hearing the phrase with context
Grammatical gender is nothing to do with natural gender. Just putting that out there.
norwegian has 3 noun genders: women, men, and mountains
Egget, not egger? 🌹
+Jedna Zelja Yes egget means the egg :) For plural, egg does not change, it remains as It is: egg.
Takk.
@@SimpleNorwegian Isn't it the same for 'children'? Barn?
@@twelvesmylimit yes
Er jeg brød?
Tusen takk❤️
Tusen takk!
Tusen takk!