Today I saw one in person for the first time and is exactly as they say, they look way better in person than photos. It's so short, and looks like it's ready to pounce, looks really cool
It's like a completely new model, the engines even better than before but the handling has transformed it into a serious track day weapon, it's no longer in the shadow of the Street triple, KTM890R or Monster 950.
Of all the professional reviews here in youtube you are of one of the two I've seen so far who pointed out the biggest weakness of MT09 which is the handling. The bike can't turn well. I hope in this second generation it's been addressed to some degree. I'd love to see how 2021 MT09,890R, and 2021 Monster perform in the racetrack and finish as a winner.
Check out Tank Slapper Moto. He has short videos and on 1 or 2 occasions spoke about the short lock & turn radius. Hes in England and said it's not that big if a deal for him plus the roads are smaller than mine here in Silicon Valley/Bay Area California. There's another guy I found I will link his video below. His 10k mile review of MT09SP. Long video but excellent info with demonstrating u turns near the end of video while fueling up. ruclips.net/video/Y8ydOeJOc_Y/видео.html
Yeah, we noticed, but since we've ridden both and we didn't want to put anyone off who's trying to learn about the base model we decided to leave it off the title. It's not exactly like we hid the fact in the test.
Glad I finally found a review with someone more American sized like me. I should be taking home a base model in a couple days. I wanted the sp version, but it seems like trying to get your hands on one of those right now, is equivalent to that of a ps5. Which I know that struggle all too well. This just made me more confident with my decision, because while I’m short. I’m also smuggling a case of beer in my jacket. So I was hoping this bike was up to task. Seems to be the case. Thanks guys for the great review.
If you have one of these, or the non-SP, like me, do yourself a favour. Go to your favourite twisty exciting stretch of road and I guarantee you will be able to ride that road and feel like a demi-god afterwards, with the greatest grin you've had on that road ever. The way this thing moves along is just so right. The whole package complements it's individual parts, and indeed is more than the sum of them
I felt that way when I test rode it on a section of twisty road I was familiar with on my 2017 sv650 which has full suspension upgrades. I ended up buying it this Friday just been but it's winter here and we just had a pretty wet weekend so haven't gotten out for a proper ride yet.
A great review of a great bike .I agree Yamaha are producing good value and excitement packages with reliability .If is a thinking of a new bike I would consider the mt09
@@PhrozenPhlanges Thats not what alot of people have been saying about it. Theyre saying that its smooth, like all inline fours, but is tuned for a little more torque. So, I think a direct comparison would be nice, since they're in more or less direct competition. Edit: There are actually a couple direct comparisons, but they're in Hindi (at least, I think its Hindi).
@@johnconti1329 same can be said of the mt09, torque is there in any gear and any rpm, smooth, tbh though, I can keep up with most bigger bikes through twisty roads on my sv650 until I get stuck behind a car and don't have the power to overtake in short sections of road between blind corners, that's where I like my mt09 because it does have the power, I enjoy the sound and power characteristics of both bikes so won't be selling my sv650. The inline 4's are just boring though by comparison. I have an old bandit 1200 and Hayabusa too, hardly ride them.
@@PhrozenPhlanges Gonna be honest, I had an 01 SV650 myself, so reading that does actually hit home a little more. I was, quite honestly, pretty sold on the Kawasaki, but this makes it a bit more of an apples to apples comparison on account of we're sort of coming from the same place. To my mind, anyway.
@@PhrozenPhlanges So, what do you think of the throttle on the MT09? That was actually the thing that was steering me away from it. All I've heard is that its real snatchy.
There is absolutely no „washy feeling“ when riding my 2020 SP in the twisties or up and down some mountain passes, especially with S22 rubber fitted and the suspension properly set up to my weight 😎🏁🏁✌️
Just dropped 3 kgs today with a tail tidy. After riding loaner bike for the day (Kawasaki Z900 RS) I am more than certain to keep my SP for years to come😉🏁
And Matt, which way have you gone ? I'm having exactly the same problem, not knowing which one to get. Seems like the standard mt is the one to go when keeping the price in consideration. Had a Tracer 900 2015, absolutely loved it, could trash it around like I did many, many years ago on the SM-t. Also had an SP 2018, and for some reason, while I loved the engine, the rest of the bike felt odd when going for the corners, it was just off. My next bike really has to be an allrounder for an aging bloke, nearly 57(nice powerwheelies , getting the knee down, but also has to be a good commuter and be able to take me on weekends). I've looked at virtually everything by now, and every day it seems the choice is getting harder and harder, maybe I'm just overthinking it .
My 2021 mt 09 is my first triple. To be honest I thought it would have more top end. A great bike, but I am planning on gearing mine down for even more torque. I find all new bikes too high geared. It is deceptively fast though and I can easily find myself faster than I think
Put 3000 miles on in the first month, no commuting, just pleasure riding. Great bike, handles great, but maybe for my likes I should have gone with a liter bike or four cylinder just because of my tastes. Will have to see what it's like after I gear it down as that usually makes it a completely different animal
I think a lot of bikes get geared higher than intended to help pass emissions tests, plus lower rpm at higher speeds improves the fuel economy. I don't remember which manufacturer it was (possibly Ducati), but they either offered an immediate chain and sprocket change when buying the bike new or were basically telling people to change it to the intended gearing asap.
@@ndperson1 the bike already has bad mileage, a 14 litre tank on something this big is a bit ridiculous as going fast burns through it and 95 octane is $2.45 a litre here, which is a hell of a lot
We would agree, almost, with a European price difference of 1500 euros. But in South Africa the price difference, for some reason, is nearly 3000 euros and so we simply can't recommend the SP. For 3000 euros you can make your own upgrades and get a SP Plus level of performance, and still have a bit of change left over for... whatever.
Er er, Haha Hehe, I long for the day when manufacturers go back to styling bikes and making them look good. Meanwhile I'll stick with the original RD350LC. Haha🤪
Why is it that you only tell us the truth about a bike, when the new one is released 😢😢. I have the Tracer 900 GT and will keep it till I die 😁😁 which I hope is a very long time 😃😃.
@@Evil.Turkey Nice work. I ended up buying the new KTM 890 Duke. If I’m not riding it , I’m thinking about it also. The Rs was my second option however. Crazy good . Ride safe mate 🤘
4:06. You were on a collision course with the cyclist if anything went wrong - too fast on a wet road. Also the speed you overtook that farm vehicle farting about at the side of the road... Your riding is reckless.
Today I saw one in person for the first time and is exactly as they say, they look way better in person than photos. It's so short, and looks like it's ready to pounce, looks really cool
Funny how many bikes are just not photogenic…one has to see them in the…er…flesh…to appreciate them.
It's like a completely new model, the engines even better than before but the handling has transformed it into a serious track day weapon, it's no longer in the shadow of the Street triple, KTM890R or Monster 950.
890 is a dream bike. I'd definitely buy it if I could afford a second bike. New MT-09 is in second place for me.
This is the best MT review I've seen hands down 😉 I loved the old gen but hated that front end disconnect.... Keep up the great uploads 👍
Love the sound of an in-line triple on the gas!
Of all the professional reviews here in youtube you are of one of the two I've seen so far who pointed out the biggest weakness of MT09 which is the handling. The bike can't turn well. I hope in this second generation it's been addressed to some degree. I'd love to see how 2021 MT09,890R, and 2021 Monster perform in the racetrack and finish as a winner.
Check out Tank Slapper Moto. He has short videos and on 1 or 2 occasions spoke about the short lock & turn radius. Hes in England and said it's not that big if a deal for him plus the roads are smaller than mine here in Silicon Valley/Bay Area California. There's another guy I found I will link his video below. His 10k mile review of MT09SP. Long video but excellent info with demonstrating u turns near the end of video while fueling up.
ruclips.net/video/Y8ydOeJOc_Y/видео.html
I just bought one, it turns great!
change the title gents, its an SP, not the base model
Yeah, we noticed, but since we've ridden both and we didn't want to put anyone off who's trying to learn about the base model we decided to leave it off the title. It's not exactly like we hid the fact in the test.
I agree mate, its misleading
Video is for type A personalities.
Glad I finally found a review with someone more American sized like me. I should be taking home a base model in a couple days. I wanted the sp version, but it seems like trying to get your hands on one of those right now, is equivalent to that of a ps5. Which I know that struggle all too well. This just made me more confident with my decision, because while I’m short. I’m also smuggling a case of beer in my jacket. So I was hoping this bike was up to task. Seems to be the case. Thanks guys for the great review.
Getting a new Donovan review makes my day happier er.
@@lomate1963 knowing Donovan, hopefully it's only his beard he's trimming in the review.
A tuned MT09 SP 2020 shod with S22 tyres will be a force on the mountain pass 😎🏁🏁
Thanks for making my choices easier.
If you have one of these, or the non-SP, like me, do yourself a favour. Go to your favourite twisty exciting stretch of road and I guarantee you will be able to ride that road and feel like a demi-god afterwards, with the greatest grin you've had on that road ever. The way this thing moves along is just so right. The whole package complements it's individual parts, and indeed is more than the sum of them
I felt that way when I test rode it on a section of twisty road I was familiar with on my 2017 sv650 which has full suspension upgrades. I ended up buying it this Friday just been but it's winter here and we just had a pretty wet weekend so haven't gotten out for a proper ride yet.
A great review of a great bike .I agree Yamaha are producing good value and excitement packages with reliability .If is a thinking of a new bike I would consider the mt09
May we have a '21 MT09 vs. '21 Z900 comparison? Pleeeaaase? Pretty please?
The z900 has 140hp and is an i4, i4's are boring on the street.
@@PhrozenPhlanges Thats not what alot of people have been saying about it. Theyre saying that its smooth, like all inline fours, but is tuned for a little more torque. So, I think a direct comparison would be nice, since they're in more or less direct competition.
Edit: There are actually a couple direct comparisons, but they're in Hindi (at least, I think its Hindi).
@@johnconti1329 same can be said of the mt09, torque is there in any gear and any rpm, smooth, tbh though, I can keep up with most bigger bikes through twisty roads on my sv650 until I get stuck behind a car and don't have the power to overtake in short sections of road between blind corners, that's where I like my mt09 because it does have the power, I enjoy the sound and power characteristics of both bikes so won't be selling my sv650. The inline 4's are just boring though by comparison. I have an old bandit 1200 and Hayabusa too, hardly ride them.
@@PhrozenPhlanges Gonna be honest, I had an 01 SV650 myself, so reading that does actually hit home a little more. I was, quite honestly, pretty sold on the Kawasaki, but this makes it a bit more of an apples to apples comparison on account of we're sort of coming from the same place. To my mind, anyway.
@@PhrozenPhlanges So, what do you think of the throttle on the MT09? That was actually the thing that was steering me away from it. All I've heard is that its real snatchy.
There is absolutely no „washy feeling“ when riding my 2020 SP in the twisties or up and down some mountain passes, especially with S22 rubber fitted and the suspension properly set up to my weight 😎🏁🏁✌️
Just dropped 3 kgs today with a tail tidy. After riding loaner bike for the day (Kawasaki Z900 RS) I am more than certain to keep my SP for years to come😉🏁
And Matt, which way have you gone ? I'm having exactly the same problem, not knowing which one to get. Seems like the standard mt is the one to go when keeping the price in consideration. Had a Tracer 900 2015, absolutely loved it, could trash it around like I did many, many years ago on the SM-t. Also had an SP 2018, and for some reason, while I loved the engine, the rest of the bike felt odd when going for the corners, it was just off. My next bike really has to be an allrounder for an aging bloke, nearly 57(nice powerwheelies , getting the knee down, but also has to be a good commuter and be able to take me on weekends). I've looked at virtually everything by now, and every day it seems the choice is getting harder and harder, maybe I'm just overthinking it .
Nice, enjoyable and informative video. Thanks for posting :)
Is basically filling the slot in the market that the old Triumph Speed Triple used to before they got obsessed with horsepower.
The beard looks great Don! 🐻
He looks like a Teddy with cruise control on.
The headlight reminds me of Zaku mobilesuit from Gundam anime. We're flying to space now.
Go Yamaha!
what's better in your opinion ? This bike or KTM 890 duke r ?
how to proper sett up the suspansion!???
Great review, although I think repeatedly putting the camera on the front mudguard to focus on the headlight was too obvious.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa great motorbike🎉🎉🎉
Looks like there is no split in exhaust to add an end can? So full system only?
Yup, or drill it yourself
Yeah, no. its euro 5. there cant be a joint in the exhaust, to try and stop slip ons sadly :-(
I wish the seat was a two split, i often get pushed back when giving it full throttle 😂
With all The Turmoil in SA,are you OK?..
My 2021 mt 09 is my first triple. To be honest I thought it would have more top end. A great bike, but I am planning on gearing mine down for even more torque. I find all new bikes too high geared. It is deceptively fast though and I can easily find myself faster than I think
Put 3000 miles on in the first month, no commuting, just pleasure riding. Great bike, handles great, but maybe for my likes I should have gone with a liter bike or four cylinder just because of my tastes. Will have to see what it's like after I gear it down as that usually makes it a completely different animal
I think a lot of bikes get geared higher than intended to help pass emissions tests, plus lower rpm at higher speeds improves the fuel economy.
I don't remember which manufacturer it was (possibly Ducati), but they either offered an immediate chain and sprocket change when buying the bike new or were basically telling people to change it to the intended gearing asap.
@@V742 yep, I agree. To help pass emissions and to be able to say they get better gas mileage
@@ndperson1 the bike already has bad mileage, a 14 litre tank on something this big is a bit ridiculous as going fast burns through it and 95 octane is $2.45 a litre here, which is a hell of a lot
@@PhrozenPhlanges I only ride mine for fun
Buy the SP. the suspension upgrades are worth every penny/rand/euro.
We would agree, almost, with a European price difference of 1500 euros. But in South Africa the price difference, for some reason, is nearly 3000 euros and so we simply can't recommend the SP. For 3000 euros you can make your own upgrades and get a SP Plus level of performance, and still have a bit of change left over for... whatever.
Not worth an excruciating 6 month wait though for the next boatload to arrive on our shores
Just railing corners. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍
MT10 NATION
Er er, Haha Hehe, I long for the day when manufacturers go back to styling bikes and making them look good. Meanwhile I'll stick with the original RD350LC. Haha🤪
Great bike
Why is it that you only tell us the truth about a bike, when the new one is released 😢😢. I have the Tracer 900 GT and will keep it till I die 😁😁 which I hope is a very long time 😃😃.
Massive beard!!
How come you live in France ?
That horn needs moved
Subtitle please. Automatic RUclips
"we can sell shit and you will buy it by the boatload" 'yamaha when selling the 1/2nd gen mt09
No idea.
👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🔔👋👋💯🇮🇩
I don't like its looks, from the side or the front.
The new front and tank is so ugly in real life.
Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one
It grows on you. When the bike is as as good as the new MT09 , you will soon forget. It’s an awesome machine believe me.
@@shanemeek81 couldn’t pass on the looks therefor I passed it and bought Street Triple RS. Love it every day.
@@Evil.Turkey Nice work. I ended up buying the new KTM 890 Duke. If I’m not riding it , I’m thinking about it also. The Rs was my second option however. Crazy good . Ride safe mate 🤘
@@shanemeek81 you too brother! 👊🏼
It might be, but man that headlight is hideous 🤮🤮
I like it, modern and fresh
It sure is ugly. You need to see the tank. It’s even more hideous.
@@Steve-motorcycles 🤦♂️🤣
@@grenphelps7455 it’s not as ugly as the KTM headlight or the bug eyes of the street triple.
Ktm all the way. Fook ths cyclop looks
4:06. You were on a collision course with the cyclist if anything went wrong - too fast on a wet road. Also the speed you overtook that farm vehicle farting about at the side of the road... Your riding is reckless.
Totally agree
I cycle those roads often
That kind of riding belongs on a track...