The triumph scrambler 400x would run rings around the himalayan in tight difficult sections off road or those looking for a more relaxed bike off road. The Himalayan is 17 kg heavier than the Triumph which is a huge difference in weight off road & a major draw back in difficult situations particurely if you're not a tall athletic person you could quite easily find yourself in difficult situation off road especially if you were on your own. Turning around on a steep-banking gravel road on the Himalayan for someone around 10 stone & 5' 7" would be not only difficult on the Himalayan but could be dangerous especially if you drop it. Part of the problem is the new Himalayan is taller-longer & wider than the previous model & only 4 kg lighter.
Most guys don't need the 450, it's a purpose built bike. Besides, you'll need to ride it fast to take advantage of the hardware it comes with. For most people, scrambler makes more sense as it is the best of both worlds.
My present combo is a Suzuki VStrom 250, 2023 model and an X Pulse 200 4V, 2022 model....Man, my total joy harbested already is much more than what I cd ever have, owning a single bike of the calibre of 390 Adv, Ninja 300, Scrambler 400 X, Super Neteor 650, Interceptor tl650vor Himmy 450.... But then, chosing a bike for the occasion, say city commutes incl 'within city longish drives'....then its my X Pulse !!!..grt on all speed breakers, Pot holes, rumbler strips,...great rides and pick up too, more than adeq for city speed limits !!! Next is medium/ long Highway rides...any day, V Strom...reason...seat comfort rather than anything else....!!! The narrow X Pulse seat is crappy at best, in terms of seating comfort beyond an hr, hr n a half...esp with guys like me, with reasonable hip/bottom side....As against this, the V Strom seat is great for long seating hours, though its suspension is no match for X Pulse !!!!.and yes, V Strom holds a comfy n relaxed crz speed of 115-120, while the X Pulse gives u that at 90 -95 kmph... All said, i am more happy having this combo than say, only Himmy 450, Adv 390, etc ...Trust me guys...and my total outflow acquiring them brand new, was 3.85 lacs on rd, all incl. I strongly recommend my combo to more genuine bikers. As a grt news, V Strom has grt discounts going....on road price wkg out to anywhere between 2.35 to 2.5L Quite worth considering, whether u add X pulse to the stable or not. Happy riding👍
Personally don't like the Triumph feels too small for my frame, Love Himalayan for the big bike feel and of course the tech. Honestly Triumph geats more the the RE. The suspension on Himalayan is the best in Segment. Seat height can be issue for people but not unmanageable. KTM us a great bike but of late RE has improved so much.
Great analysis Dhanil, I feel the new KTM 390 Adv Rally is THE best all rounder bike currently for the sheer value, features and experience it provides, period!
I took scrambler at 3 lakh with minimal accesories, bike is awesome compared to himalayan Trust me , u feel the rides on scrambler is soo cool and fun , but lack of bluetooth connectivity
Convert the Himalayan exhaust with an AEW link pipe and AEW exhaust to loose some weight where the Himalayan comes closer to scrambler weight less than 190 kgs
I really believe Triumph did an amazing job except one crucial aspect for me. Wheelbase is too short, pillion seat is nice but too small/short. With a longer wheelbase of 10cm would have been perfect.
4:42 quality issues break my heart right now frame issues bhi arise hue 2-3 kya kare bro delivery lu ya drope kar du... old himalyan ki treh dhoka na milay
one issue with the assessment of the seat height, at 5.6 ft Himalayan is better than triamph due to seat height and shape of the seat. So himalayan is for tall riders is not a correct statement
Hi sir. I’m coming from an Interceptor 650 and l face lotta issues with wobbling and fork alignment. So l decided to sell it and buy a bike that is sorted and does not have all these issues. Which bike should l consider? I am 6 feet tall. My priorities are 70% city and 30% highways
Parabéns pelo vídeo amigo. Suas informações são preciosas, estou aguardando a chegada da himalayan no Brasil. E se tratando da sua explicação no vídeo, acredito que a sacrambler venha se encaixar melhor as minhas necessidades. E com os problemas que na Índia não foram resolvidos, vamos ter que esperar um bom tempo para todos os problemas que a marca enfrentará aqui serem resolvidos. Principalmente com a mudança drástica na qualidade inferior do nosso combustível.
Hi bro!! This is an Interceptor owner from Chennai. I’m 6 ft 1” tall. Can l consider Scrambler as an upgrade to my Interceptor 650 ? I’m not very sure of the Himalayan as you said there are quality issues. If there is any other option better than Interceptor please lemme know
Both bikes almost have the same performance but if you want more comfort then I think Triumph speed 400 should be your choice but if you want a more aggressive engine and a proper riding posture then you can go for 390. As a Triumph speed 400 owner I am pretty happy. I wanted comfort and retro looking motorcycle. But if you want digital display and more sporty build then go for 390.
I don't understand how KTM Adventure 390 is better of both worlds ?😂 It is neither a city bike nor an off-road bike, it's just an adventure tourer that can do mild off-roading. To conclude: Triumph Scrambler is Jack of all traits, master of none. Himalayan is a proper dual purpose adventure motorcycle and KTM Adventure 390 is just a tourer.
Scrambler is more suited to the Indian rider, unless the rider does regular 500 km/day rides... then only the Himalayan makes sense. Triumph makes better motorcycles than RE.
Bro just a small suggestion.. Either make the video completely in English or in Hindi, it's too confusing and annoying sometimes when you're involved in the video.. I mean, there's motorbeam hindi as well for hindi content...
Here's the thing, triumph scram doesn't make sense at all... Go for speed 400..it'll easily tackle all the indian roads... Instead of bringing scram 400 triumph should've went for tiger 400, a proper adventure bike...
@@fromthehills9782yes bro. All RE bikes, all Yamaha single Cylinder bikes, all Hero bikes, All TVS bikes, All Bajaj and KtM bikes, all yezdi and Jawa bikes, All Honda single Cylinder bikes are absolutely chapris favorite. Better to go for Ninja 400 or Ducati or BMW CBU bikes. Atlst We wont get chapri tag.
Seat height agar 835mm hai tho short height walo kaisa suit hoga aur Himalayan ka 825mm seat height hai tho short height wala ko kaisa problem hoga....?gazab logic hai...... height matter nahi karta hai kyun ki dono ka almost the same height hai.... weight matter karta hai aur us se height se kuch bhi Lena Dena nahi hai...
Hi...me and my wife work together and our office is 50 kms away one side in Himachal. So for a 100 km of daily run in Hill's with pillion which one of the two bikes would you recommend.,?
There is a better and more reliable option than himalayan..ie., Ktm adv 390 x...go for it.Your tripper navigation is useless in himalayan, fuel range meter is not proper,it is top heavy, tubeless is still not available, if you get puncher on such roads pushing heavy bike will be impossible, you still donno whether engine is reliable. So i would ask you look for adv 390x or scrambler/speed 400. edit:- adv 390 x is cheaper than himalayan now.
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The triumph scrambler 400x would run rings around the himalayan in tight difficult sections off road or those looking for a more relaxed bike off road. The Himalayan is 17 kg heavier than the Triumph which is a huge difference in weight off road & a major draw back in difficult situations particurely if you're not a tall athletic person you could quite easily find yourself in difficult situation off road especially if you were on your own. Turning around on a steep-banking gravel road on the Himalayan for someone around 10 stone & 5' 7" would be not only difficult on the Himalayan but could be dangerous especially if you drop it. Part of the problem is the new Himalayan is taller-longer & wider than the previous model & only 4 kg lighter.
Himalayan is purpose built, Scrambler is for all.
price diffrence is 22 k now not including tubeless tyers
Wow, such a nice, no bullsh!t, review!.
Thanks a lot
Most guys don't need the 450, it's a purpose built bike. Besides, you'll need to ride it fast to take advantage of the hardware it comes with. For most people, scrambler makes more sense as it is the best of both worlds.
Never thought a biker reviewer would say Chapri
H toh h Bhai 😂
Ab khud smjh lo brand ki halat hai 🙃🙃, if only bajaj finance would not be giving the bikes in such low down payments 🤝🏻
I'm dead man..... 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Bro the way you review its clear and simple i love it😊
I don’t know about clear…
My present combo is a Suzuki VStrom 250, 2023 model and an X Pulse 200 4V, 2022 model....Man, my total joy harbested already is much more than what I cd ever have, owning a single bike of the calibre of 390 Adv, Ninja 300, Scrambler 400 X, Super Neteor 650, Interceptor tl650vor Himmy 450....
But then, chosing a bike for the occasion, say city commutes incl 'within city longish drives'....then its my X Pulse !!!..grt on all speed breakers, Pot holes, rumbler strips,...great rides and pick up too, more than adeq for city speed limits !!!
Next is medium/ long Highway rides...any day, V Strom...reason...seat comfort rather than anything else....!!! The narrow X Pulse seat is crappy at best, in terms of seating comfort beyond an hr, hr n a half...esp with guys like me, with reasonable hip/bottom side....As against this, the V Strom seat is great for long seating hours, though its suspension is no match for X Pulse !!!!.and yes, V Strom holds a comfy n relaxed crz speed of 115-120, while the X Pulse gives u that at 90 -95 kmph...
All said, i am more happy having this combo than say, only Himmy 450, Adv 390, etc ...Trust me guys...and my total outflow acquiring them brand new, was 3.85 lacs on rd, all incl. I strongly recommend my combo to more genuine bikers. As a grt news, V Strom has grt discounts going....on road price wkg out to anywhere between 2.35 to 2.5L Quite worth considering, whether u add X pulse to the stable or not. Happy riding👍
V storm 250 ❤❤
Xpulse 200 LOVE❤❤
Amazing dude
happy with my dominar 400 since 2018😊
One of the best touring machine currently in the market.
dominar beast
this is why i love the 250cc segment🤣😂😆😅
Personally don't like the Triumph feels too small for my frame, Love Himalayan for the big bike feel and of course the tech. Honestly Triumph geats more the the RE. The suspension on Himalayan is the best in Segment. Seat height can be issue for people but not unmanageable. KTM us a great bike but of late RE has improved so much.
Seat height is 835 on the Triumph!
825 on RE
triump is not small, it is just that the himalayan is too big, uncomfortable for daily commutes
@@rayan8847 Again it's subjective as I said small for my frame ... Someone lean and fit it might be better suited
Very well explained. Thank you!
Dhanil's seasoned belly still lovingly caressing the fuel tank👍
Thanks for the information, it helps us to buy the right bike.
when comes to service , RE will get the worst experience .
Actually happy with the interceptor 2019 model , now converted with alloys
One more point to be considered is the service, here RE might have edge over Triumph
Aaj dhanil bhai ki izzat badh gayi🎉. Honest review bawa,
Thanks for some good points.
Wich bike do you say at the end is the better option to buy?
how come 835mm seat height for shorter rider and 825mm is for taller rider?
Bhai, I am 6ft tall guy. I want to buy 400x. Will it look good??
RE can't be as reliable as triumph
Good review clears confusion
Great analysis Dhanil, I feel the new KTM 390 Adv Rally is THE best all rounder bike currently for the sheer value, features and experience it provides, period!
I took scrambler at 3 lakh with minimal accesories, bike is awesome compared to himalayan
Trust me , u feel the rides on scrambler is soo cool and fun , but lack of bluetooth connectivity
Convert the Himalayan exhaust with an AEW link pipe and AEW exhaust to loose some weight where the Himalayan comes closer to scrambler weight less than 190 kgs
In Motorcycle review your the best👍
I really believe Triumph did an amazing job except one crucial aspect for me. Wheelbase is too short, pillion seat is nice but too small/short. With a longer wheelbase of 10cm would have been perfect.
Definately not a longer wheelbase. It should be shorter for wheelie s and sharper supermotard cornering
fantic Cab. 500 Rally ist my Favorit 😊
4:42 quality issues break my heart right now frame issues bhi arise hue 2-3 kya kare bro delivery lu ya drope kar du... old himalyan ki treh dhoka na milay
Did u purchase then ?
Shove em both... I'll buy an old himmy 411 for peanuts 🥜 in a few months.... Plenty for my location 📍
*CRAP GAME*
Very Informative Video 👌👍💯✅
Two test drives on the 400X. Everything seems fine. Except having a right shoulder arm pain. !!!
thank you soo muchh for this video
Triumph is thinking to own😍😍
What is your suggestion bro Himalayan 450 or scrambler 400x
Just to clear the air.. there has been one and only one issue like this .. that Faisal Khan broke.. this is the same bike
Are you telling us to wait if we have booked already for 2nd batch or 3-4months
Whichever you can push to, wait till April
@@DhanilViraare new batch Himalayan 452 are coming on april?
Im a heavy 6’1 guy and want the feel of a big motorcycle. is the scrambler gonna give me that feel or should i just go for the himalayan?
test ride them
Really good video
one issue with the assessment of the seat height, at 5.6 ft Himalayan is better than triamph due to seat height and shape of the seat. So himalayan is for tall riders is not a correct statement
Hi sir. I’m coming from an Interceptor 650 and l face lotta issues with wobbling and fork alignment. So l decided to sell it and buy a bike that is sorted and does not have all these issues. Which bike should l consider? I am 6 feet tall. My priorities are 70% city and 30% highways
i think it is a best shortest explanation....
My height is at 6’1” (186cms). Will Scrambler 400X be a good choice??
Without tubeless tyres this bike is dangerous to ride at high speed on higway
Parabéns pelo vídeo amigo.
Suas informações são preciosas, estou aguardando a chegada da himalayan no Brasil.
E se tratando da sua explicação no vídeo, acredito que a sacrambler venha se encaixar melhor as minhas necessidades.
E com os problemas que na Índia não foram resolvidos, vamos ter que esperar um bom tempo para todos os problemas que a marca enfrentará aqui serem resolvidos.
Principalmente com a mudança drástica na qualidade inferior do nosso combustível.
For me himalayan in city is muah ❤
Price difference is almost 60- 70 k including tubless spoke wheels
Bro, height is short and 834MM seat height does not go hand in hand..
City ka off roading 😂 apt description for what it's like to travel on our city roads
Hi bro!! This is an Interceptor owner from Chennai. I’m 6 ft 1” tall. Can l consider Scrambler as an upgrade to my Interceptor 650 ? I’m not very sure of the Himalayan as you said there are quality issues. If there is any other option better than Interceptor please lemme know
How can it be an upgrade? It's a slower, cheaper, single cylinder?
You look so good sitting on the Himalayan. Thing if beauty she is.
Dhanil's weight exceeds the payload capacity of almost all the motorcycles in the world.
Nah hardly 100 kgs mate.
Dude were you a mistake
Very well explained
Ktm duke 390 3rd gen or triumph speed 400 which one to buy for daily commute n all please suggest
Both bikes almost have the same performance but if you want more comfort then I think Triumph speed 400 should be your choice but if you want a more aggressive engine and a proper riding posture then you can go for 390. As a Triumph speed 400 owner I am pretty happy. I wanted comfort and retro looking motorcycle. But if you want digital display and more sporty build then go for 390.
I don't understand how KTM Adventure 390 is better of both worlds ?😂 It is neither a city bike nor an off-road bike, it's just an adventure tourer that can do mild off-roading.
To conclude: Triumph Scrambler is Jack of all traits, master of none. Himalayan is a proper dual purpose adventure motorcycle and KTM Adventure 390 is just a tourer.
Scrambler is more suited to the Indian rider, unless the rider does regular 500 km/day rides... then only the Himalayan makes sense.
Triumph makes better motorcycles than RE.
1) Indian riders aren't usually 5'11' & above (seat height 835 mm!)
2) Indian roads need all the help from your suspension (Him 450>>>>)
I need a himalayan 650 ❤
There can’t be any comparison between 2 because Triumph isn’t available I mean dealership network
பொறம்போக்கு இங்கிலீஷ்ல வீடியோ போட்டா இங்கிலீஷ்ல மட்டும் பேசு
Don’t watch if you don’t understand, if you have a problem with Hindi
@@Spacenigga69 தலைப்ப இந்தில வைங்க.. இங்கிலீஷ்ல வச்சி எங்கல ஏமாத்தாத
😂😂😂
Well to be long terms RE owner, I would not recommend RE as its an non reliable product. Rest is on your wisdom.
Keep it up Guys,
thanks
Bro just a small suggestion.. Either make the video completely in English or in Hindi, it's too confusing and annoying sometimes when you're involved in the video.. I mean, there's motorbeam hindi as well for hindi content...
I disagree. I loved your Hinglish, video poster!
Good video,but man why people are even comparing these two bikes!!!!!.. completely different bikes..😢
How about BmW GS 310 as another optoom ro Scrambler 400 X?
If your short, doesn't the scrambler have a taller seat height.?
Aguardando essas máquinas aqui no Brasil
Indian city roads are also as good as doing offroad.
There are issues of scrambler 400 swingarm breaks and engine oil leakage.
One is an Off-road motorcycle and the other one a Scrambler. Simple!
I have already hunter 350 I m waiting but I'm very sad 11lt fuel tank
Here's the thing, triumph scram doesn't make sense at all... Go for speed 400..it'll easily tackle all the indian roads... Instead of bringing scram 400 triumph should've went for tiger 400, a proper adventure bike...
Most awaited
Conclusion: buy ktm adv 390 😅
Vibration more than himalyan
Haha
Become part of chapri gang
A big Yes,Even ktm 390 adv new gen coming within a year, testing already started.
@@fromthehills9782yes bro.
All RE bikes, all Yamaha single Cylinder bikes, all Hero bikes, All TVS bikes, All Bajaj and KtM bikes, all yezdi and Jawa bikes, All Honda single Cylinder bikes are absolutely chapris favorite.
Better to go for Ninja 400 or Ducati or BMW CBU bikes.
Atlst We wont get chapri tag.
No hindi please. Keep in one language. Post a separate video in hindi if required.
Comparison must be between same Section bike... Adv and Scrambler are different
Looka like scrambler is more beefy and having a better presence than Himalayan
Not at all check in person
Now, Royal enfield is doing final testing of bike along with customer, and customers are paying to take part in testing ..😂😂😂
Seat height agar 835mm hai tho short height walo kaisa suit hoga aur Himalayan ka 825mm seat height hai tho short height wala ko kaisa problem hoga....?gazab logic hai...... height matter nahi karta hai kyun ki dono ka almost the same height hai.... weight matter karta hai aur us se height se kuch bhi Lena Dena nahi hai...
What about x440 ?
Dhanel came to rescue. 🔥
Bro what is your height and inseam
Electric scooty+ himalayan?
I simply don't understand..... Who is the public which travels 500km a day daily? Means himalayan should not be buy.
Mahindra mojo,Kawasaki versus 650 gets 21ltr tank and these too should get bigger tanks......
Triumph is my wish
Hi...me and my wife work together and our office is 50 kms away one side in Himachal.
So for a 100 km of daily run in Hill's with pillion which one of the two bikes would you recommend.,?
Speed 400x
Best is you test ride both. Decide which is comfortable and be sure of the service at your dealership.
Service and maintenance is very important. 🙏
There is a better and more reliable option than himalayan..ie., Ktm adv 390 x...go for it.Your tripper navigation is useless in himalayan, fuel range meter is not proper,it is top heavy, tubeless is still not available, if you get puncher on such roads pushing heavy bike will be impossible, you still donno whether engine is reliable. So i would ask you look for adv 390x or scrambler/speed 400.
edit:- adv 390 x is cheaper than himalayan now.
@@sanatpai1086 thankyou
@@nurarihyon07 sure thankyou
Climax ktm adv 390 😹💪🏽💥💥
I'm going for benelli TRK
Kindly do update what the outcome of the bike after it went to service. So we know what really happened to the engine.
Yezdi adventure?
🤢🤮
In that confusion we have to buy Duke 390😅
RE ❤
I am confused between Triumph scrambler vs harley x440 or should I wait for maverick 440
Himalayan ❤
Dude no one will go daily 1000 kms...and more over we have to pass through traffic to hit the highway from our homes..
Go with vstrom sx
When will a quarter litre with 200mm suspension travel launch 😭