The Menacing Case of the Monster with 21 Faces
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- Who’s really behind these cryptic candy-centric crimes?
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Ayyy can't wait for this
I’m about to rewatch this episode before I go to sleep like every other episode
What are your favourite cases?
For the postmortem:what’s your favorite type of candy?
Can you all please cover Bruce and Brandon Lee please? Both deaths are too mysterious to be accidents. Love you all!!
can’t believe Shane went from looking like a regular white dude to looking like a maths professor to looking like a crazy archeologist
listen man, the pandemic's been rough on all of us okay ? 😔
A....a professor, you say?
@@alanardominim is it REALLY because of that?
Don't forget the Amish period.
That's the character arc I hope all regular white dudes aspire to
List of things Shane is afraid of:
-Heroin
-Avocado pits
-Anyone under the age of 23
Me, 22, feeling powerful
Why does heroin scare him do you think? Also...avocado pits but not armpits?
I agree with being scared from just about everyone under age 23. Well 8-23. Kids are cool. But older kids/teens/young adults these days make for terrible human beings (for the most part...not trying to generalize or stereotype or whatever lol)
To be fair, people under the age of 23 are pretty scary
aw dang it i missed by 9 years
@@jeremygalloway1348 i dont think it was heroin exactly but the act of some random person coming at him with a needle of heroin/drugs and injecting him
For clarification: the reason the Japanese police force has such a high percentage is because they often torture suspects into confession, and they arrest people who aren’t the actual criminals.
Why is this not the top comment u.u
False. American propaganda
I was also thinking that because America is significantly bigger than Japan the statistics would be skewed if the population was similar
@@akihikosakurai4013 ratio
@@akihikosakurai4013 yeah America, the country with the largest prison population on the planet, is super interested in spreading anti incarceration propaganda.
ghosts don't scare shane because they're older than 23
That's a really excellent point! Lol.
Most times
They are not always older than 23.
How do you set the age of a ghost? Is it the age they died at, or the age between their birth and now? Because depending on that a ghost might be under or over 23
@@eiffelviolet ghosts aren't allowed to haunt for 23 years postmortem.
ngl, if the monster with 21 faces were victims of arsenic poisoning.. that'd be a hell of a backstory
Tbh it kinda sounds like a tv series to me
It sure will I would like an anime or movie about this
@@thememan1387 watch terror in resonance, has A LOT of the same themes as this and after watching this I think it was probably inspired at least somewhat by this event
@@thalon8494 thanks I'll check it out
New story idea!
Shane Madej really said “eat the rich” and has stuck by it since 2016.
We stan
He is a man that knows his morals
What was the episode he said that? I can’t remember
Except in this case eating the rich means getting hard working low or middle class people fired.
@@franciscasilva8406 Yeah it's funny to see that his morals don't really succeed in this situation, because this entire spree also really just screwed over people like him
The part about humiliating the police...the fact is with such a high conviction rate, there will always be innocent people and people with minor demeanors put in jail. A lot of Japanese media that involve the law are written with this in mind. To me, it's difficult to overlook the idea that perhaps they just wanted to show the police they couldn't force solve everything as a kind of revenge.
Or to show the public that the police actually can't do their jobs. If their high numbers rely on putting innocents in jail, they essentially are scapegoating all the time and aren't actually connecting the dots to find the one responsible. Not to say that all cases are handled like this, but way too many are, and that could be why this group did these acts and taunted the police this way. "If you're as good as you say you are, catch us!" and the fact they never did speaks volumes.
Yeah, that’s kind of what I was thinking. And then if they HAD made a false arrest, the actual culprit would act again, probably with some sort of message amounting to ‘wrong answer’
Fun fact: The writer of that kids book, Edogawa Ranpo, isn't bis real name. It is a pen name that is literally the Japanese pronunciation of Edgar Allan Poe. Edogawa was a big fan of him, and was inspired to write because of him.
Very unrelated but my BSD fan side cannot stop giggling because of this fact
Omfg that's hilarious. I had to giggle rereading edogawa ranpo
Me too😂😂🤣
Shane looks like the smart character from every 90s cartoon and 2000s DS game
THE POWER YET UNKNOWN
The world ends with you is a DS game
@@shaminabalamo525 DUNDUNDUUUUUMNNNN!!!
I think he kinda looks like jeffrey dahmer
and i wish to steal his looks
He looks like he would fit in on a game of "Guess Who?", it's wonderful and I appreciate it
So Ryan’s solution to not getting kidnapped in the bath isn’t having his sword on him when he bathes, but instead peeing on the assailant
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sword could get rusty in the bath
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so, having his *sword* on him then
Gotta switch it up on a witch
24:36 They actually did figure out who the Somerton Man was!! He wasn't a secret spy or anything, he was just a dude that was really sad and lonely who wrote a lot of poems about death and was violent with his wife :/
What a mix for a human being to have
I love this one because it really just sounds like one of those riddles that are near-impossible to figure out, but if it is cracked, it's going to suddenly seem all-too obvious.
Also, I personally think that this was definitely the work of a group, rather than a individual.
Agreed. I have formulated a strangers on a train scenario for some time now, back when I actively posting on Reddit. I think it was disgruntled employees from both companies who decided to create the persona of the Monster with 21 faces in order to get back at the companies for reasons I think were personal. If I was working on this case in the 80s I would request the names of all former employees from both Glico and Morinaga and ask questions from their former co-workers about habits of said former employees like which train they took, where they liked to eat after work, the small things that could help build a profile of the members and thus finally identify the members.
i guess they never… *faced* any consequences
nice
HAHAHAHHAHA PLS
NOOOOO
OT NO
*insert clever pun*
i saw a comment that said “sometimes i feel like shane is a demon sent to kill ryan but just became attached” and now i cant get that out of my head
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That's literally every comment under an unsolved supernatural video
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I knew an ex special forces guy that claimed to keep a ceramic knife in a shower because you never know when you might have to defend your home and anything else would have rusted in the shower. I remember thinking he was crazy until these two gave their explanation of how they would defend themselves in the bath. I guess I'll be buying a ceramic knife now.
Someone made a revolver entirely from stainless steel so it was extremely rust proof but the problem is ammunition usually isn't as resistant.
Yes, as people have previously mentioned, the Japanese police forces runs on a "guilty until proven innocent" mindset as opposed to the general "innocent until proven guilty". While Japan has the highest solved crime rate, it also has one of the highest wrongful conviction rates.
The reason Japanese police had such a high “success” rate when it came to solving crimes is that it also had one of the highest rates of wrongful convictions, and even to this day has a 99% conviction rate; which means that if you are on trial in Japan, you are almost definitely going to be convicted.
I was actually wondering this myself.
yep
@@tamarkb6833 Measures of wrongful convictions aren't the most reliable. The US certainly has more than they should (the police are terrible there), but statistics about it are only from cases where wrongful conviction is legally determined.
In a lot of other countries like Japan, retrials may be much rarer. Not defending the US, just defending proper use of statistics.
I was gunna say this too. Super nasty justice system here
oh wow, oh my god
For Post Mortem: My theory is that the culprit is a victim of police incompetence. They just want to prove to the public how even though most of crimes are solved in Japan, a simple corporate terrorism with given hints can't be solved. It's not mentioned here but they also stopped after the head of police killed himself.
That’s a really good theory
This is what I was thinking, too. Or maybe someone who failed police academy? Trying to expose police incompetency.
For the record, while most crimes in Japan are “solved”, that doesn’t necessarily mean they were actually solved. The Japanese police have a pretty nasty track record of just arresting people who they feel they can pin a crime on so that it goes in the books as a successful case. It’s more important to secure an arrest and close the books than to actually catch the true culprit.
One thing is certain: they had full confidence in the incompetence of the police.
What does for post mortem mean?
side note: 11:25 is prob one of my fav moments of this show, hearing the pure excitement in shane’s “we’re gonna talk about our favorite candy aren’t we?” to just utter disappointment in his “oh ok” when him n ryan weren’t on the same page😭😭 so cute
"Some men aren't looking for anything logical like money, some men just wanna watch the world burn" Sorry, but this entire thing seems like a comic book plot, and I am living for it.
Shane: nothing scares me
People under the age of 23: allow me to introduce myself
literal infant: *exists*
shane: ORHDXKJENSKDHEJS
he realises that most of us are under 23?
XD
heroin: allow me to introduce myself
@@allenella5766 stfu
mҽ wɧɷ'ى 17 ɧҽɧҽ 🤪
The whole "the car was gray" hint made me laugh, they are making fun of the police so much 😂 almost all cars in Japan are gray 😂😂😂
This is a bruh moment.
Jsshjfjsjfjsjcj neat
Omg LMAO
@@allenella5766 this is not only illegal but also probably a lie. or this is a bot account for scams
@@Blackout_Miracle scam bot.
The monster with 21 faces is actually 21 kids in a trenchcoat trying to get free candy and playing out their favourite book
I like the theory of the small children growing into adults and then getting revenge on corporations, would be nice if they were actually 21 different people with a single goal in mind of only chaos while... being polite enough to warn people about the poison. The letters to the police were funny though lmao
For postmortem: Why didnt you mention that the police captain set himself on fire because he was so ashamed that he couldn't solve the case? That event led to the monster with 21 faces to stop because they respected that so much. Such a important part of the case so I'm surprised yall left it out.
So the Monster with 21 Faces actually stopped just to respect the captain's death? I respect them even more!
RUclips didn't like that they will demonetizate jt
wait... what if they're actually seeking revenge for the police captain himself? so when he set himself on fire, the monster's goal was reached and they stopped?
@@mirilizz4389 yeah after the police captain died the monster with 21 faces sent the final letter. It said something like, "After hearing of the captain's death we wanted to give our condolences. We have decided to move on to other things. Anything else that happens is not from us but probably someone trying to copy us. After all we are the bad guys so we have bigger things to do than bully food companies."
Wow that Police Captain was a drama Queen
For post mortem: Japanese police is notorious for closing cases any way possible to keep up appearances, beating the confessions out of the suspects and convicting innocent people. This was definitely done to humiliate them publicly. Maybe someone with a grudge? Someone whose friend or relative was a victim of the police brutality and incompetence? This feels personal
When I heard the percentage solved,I thought the police must be crooked. 97 percent. No way
that's such a good point. I think the woman and child voice message was a very intentional message meant for the public, to make them reconsider their views on who the real criminals were. I don't think the monster w 21 faces ever wanted the money, or to truly hurt any of the public. The wanted to make a point about the police and the companies themselves
i was about to comment this. there is police brutality and incompetence in japan too.
Hard agree.
Yeah i like this, maybe that raised their solved crimes’ rates by a considerable percentage cuz no way those cops were THAT invincible
Ryan: "Sometimes when I get mad, my body shuts down and restarts..."
Shane: "Truth hurts."
Ryan: 👁️👄👁️
3:55 the messed up part about such a high conviction rate for murders is that in Japan if they can’t find the real killer sometimes they would pin the murder onto someone who might have been caught for a petty crime not even related to the murder to keep their stats high
Japanese culture for you man
@@marinetter.8423 for example cannabis wasnt even considered a drug, until prohibition era america after ww2 made huge laws against drugs, and what caused the shape of their anti drug culture today, along with police culture of brutality. Japanese prisons are still much more humane than american ones
juking the stats
Dang, if that's the case, then Light Yagami has been killing at least a bunch of innocents and he would have never known
This is part of the reason why Ace Attorney is like that, right? It's a satire on the JPN court system
I'd like to think the child on the phone was actually at the center of it all and it was just a criminal ring of children that wanted free candy.
Lol
😂
oh wow
I'd like to think the child on the phone 📱 was actually at the center of it all and it was just a ctimal ring of children that wanted free candy.
@@tayloranderson7547 I’d like to think the child on the phone was actually at the center of it all and it was just a criminal ring of children that wanted free candy.
I'd genuinely buy a book of Shane and Ryan explaining how they would survive these murder scenarios.
A PODCAST WOULD BE AMAZING
@@somerandomperson8098 Yes this, this I would buy
@Grecia Leon signed!
@Grecia Leon signed ✌
@Grecia Leon signed 👀
This is one of those movie scenarios where there's one underdog policeman/detective who always has the right hunches but his coworkers don't support his theories so he has to solve it himself
Except in this case there is no such person lmao
Or maybe its like Now You See Me where the protagonist is revealed to be in on it!
So, one of the things that I didn't see mentioned here was the possibility of The Monster (or their hypothetical inside man/men) shorting the companies they're targeting.
We're all familiar with the normal way stocks work. You buy then at a certain price and then sell them later, hopefully when the price increases. That's going long (there are other ways of going long, but that's the basic way). When you short a stock, you basically borrow stocks from somebody else, sell them for however much they're worth, and you do so with a promise that you'll return the same number of stocks in a month or a year or however long the contract was made for when you shorted. That's a simplification, of course, but the main thing is that if the stock price goes down, then you've made money -- you sold when it was high and bought when it was low to pay back your debt. (Of course, if the price goes up, then you lose money)
Shorting a stock is usually very risky. However, it's far less risky if you *know* that a stock is going to go down in price. That's usually because of insider trading but what if you're an enterprising criminal group? One who knows how to threaten and terrorize and make a big splash in the news and really drive down the price of a stock? If such a group were to short a stock -- and have enough people do it over a long enough period of time that it seemed like natural, everyday trading -- and then hit the company they were shorting, they could make a whole lot of money without having to ever pick up the ransom money and expose themselves to danger.
The Monster seemed to take great pleasure in making corporations and police look like fools, while playing the media like a fiddle. It seems like they had some issue with authority. So why not thumb your nose one last time at the system you hate by exploiting it's own rules to make a fortune as well? While the cops are looking for a pickup man trying to grab a bag of ransom money, you're walking out the Tokyo Stock Exchange in broad daylight with all the money you (to all outside appearances) made legally.
This also makes sense when you consider that they never actually picked up any of the money, but continued doing all of this anyways; they didn't actually need the money from the companies directly if they were making bank from stocks and it had the added bonus of hurting them over a longer term than payouts would have.
kinda upset that ryan’s book wasn’t actually linked in the description😕
I looked as soon as he said it and I was watching this on my Roku so I had to pick up my phone and go to RUclips to see the description
wheres my book ryan
I looked in the description. I knew it was fake but still saw
Perfect opportunity to link a rick roll
Same tho
Post Mortem: What is the size of a "Ryan sized window"?
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apparently very small. like a rat hole.
"I'm five foot ten dammit!"
I imagine Ryan's bathroom has a window that is a perfect cutout of Ryan's body
its a pinhole
Assuming Myazaki is innocent, there is still a very good reason he would publish the book until after the statute of limitations fell, being that maybe statements in the book could be misinterpreted and give police a reason to go after him after all, even small things like any of his statements in the books maybe not lining up to his testimony.
My mom was born in Osaka and grew up in Tokyo in the 80s, so I asked her if she knew this case and she said she knew what the case was but didn’t know what it was about. I told her about the case and even sent her this video, and she was extremely devastated that this happened, especially because she is from Osaka and the fact that that happened there is sad.
It’s not even a sad case though. Being devastated is a bit much.
“i do think it’s funny to have a little laugh at a big corporate entity like this. you think you’re impenetrable? HUH? look what i can do!” “you do have this robin hood complex for taking down corporations. not gonna lie, i do like seeing a corporation getting its lunch pail thrown in the mud sometimes.”
me, aware they’re leaving buzzfeed: 👀
You can tell they're Californians...
@@sweaspurdoddd5466 Shane's from Illinois?
If the ONLY good thing Buzzfeed ever did was also somehow the reason for their downfall all would be right in the world
@@chaosandbunnies8291 and where does he live right now?
ruclips.net/video/TjcEdVRVRyo/видео.html there was the time
I wish it would have been like rogue dentists or something. "Candy sales are down, boys! We've done our jobs!"
It’s not good for dentists by the way. If people stop eating candy totally, it means less money for dentists.
@@lecanist_GS I doubt dentists get paid per procedure instead of a wage like any other job
@@wurmturm If they have their own practice, then yes they are being paid per procedure. And if they are a junior dentists employed at a senior dentist's practice, then they would be getting a wage, but if no one comes to get dental work done then where would the money for their wages come from?
@@wurmturm what are you talking about?? Dentists get paid for procedure.
Fox.. Fox... Fox of the JDA... Fox.. Fox.. Fox of the JDA. (a la Lemming of the BDA)
I think the theory of those wanting revenge on the food industry could be true combined with the fact that Japanese police often tortures people into confessions. this entire crime just feels personal to me. I think the criminal just wanted some emotional satisfaction and closure rather than the money demanded, and when satisfied, simply stopped. I mean, if you manage to poison candy and place it in stores without being caught while you did in fact announce that you were going to do it, I'm sure you could pick up the money without being caught.
as a bungou stray dogs fan im very delighted to run into edogawa ranpo’s work in a case like this
Ain't gonna lie, I like them. Sounds like they just wanted to humiliate the police and never intended to harm the public. So glad no one died
I agree with you, I really liked the fact that there was mostly no violence, but the fact that many people lost their jobs because of this is undeniable. When it was time to recoup losses, the bigwigs weren't really inconvenienced, only the part-time workers: students, women with families, etc. Those people were really collateral victims. At least it was just before the Japanese Bubble so it wouldn't have been too hard finding another job I guess.
@slow mazda Yes.
@@Aleswall Sad.
@slow mazda yes, that person exposes holes in the system without actually doing damage at all
@slow mazda very much
Post Mortem: A group of dentists angry at candy ruining kids teeth.
@Val Mc maybe children’s teeth is more important to them then work?
@@ekpeadon lol unlikely
@@gamma00crucis of course it is! It was more of a joke 😅😂😜
Dr yap 😩
That would be my worst nightmare I hate the dentist 😂😂
I’m sorry, but the way Ryan said “broke into his home and kidnapped the naked Ezaki” is just hilarious to me.
Sounds like the start of a weird hentai.
When people say Japan has a low crime rate they forget that many crimes are unreported in Japan. TW: SA, domestic violence, Harassment, pedophilia are very rampant but we’re expected to believe “low crime rate” robberies might be very low and possibly murder overall but Japan also has one of the most horrific murder cases ever says a lot about their society
POST MORTEM: Judging by how aggressive the letters were toward the police and their inability to solve the case, do you think that maybe the whole thing was some elaborate plot done just to humiliate them? The tips given in the letters could have been false; used to lead them on a wild goose chase and make them look even more incompetent than they already looked. And if Miyazaki is involved (which would make sense given his anti-police history), he could have had some of his old buddies from his past helping him out, and they banded together to give him an alibi, thus allowing him to get away and humiliate the police even further. Granted, I don't know what his alibi was so I don't how well the last part works. The only question that remains from this theory is why would they target the candy companies as well?
Idk maybe the rebels were morbidly obese children who blamed the candy company for marketing to them as children and giving them a lifelong addiction to sweets? Idk I just feel like they are a petty group who only need any petty reason to target a large organization.
Maybe targeting the candy companies was just a means to get through to the police. Food affects everyone and candy especially, because they were targeting children indirectly, so there's an even bigger concern. We also have to look at the status the police has in Japan, it's pretty high. The Japanese people usually don't question them, they trust them, and thus, the argument of the perpetrators saying they are wasting tax money could actually be a huge deal, as it means that they are playing with their people's loyalty.
If i remember correctly they were able to get multiple leaders of the police to leave because they were so ashamed
@@SicklySeraph losing face in Japan is still a biiiig deal, so it makes sense
What if the group of 21 faces had a backup with the police. So they always knew when it was a trap. In combination with the revenge action, it mainly reminds me of the plot of "Now you see me".
this case givin me strong “money heist” vibes. the criminals being smart, always one step ahead, every move seemingly being calculated and in the end them not getting caught. it’s funny to see something so unbelievably fictional had actually happened irl before
an anime thing
it’s disturbing that you find innocent people being killed is “funny”
@@drzennox3690 the funny part is how unrealistic the story is and yet it happened irl. also these guys didn't kill anyone and the only moment they hazarded murder was with the cyanide incident, of which everyone took seriously and no one was injured but the company itself.
yeah they kidnapped a man and i doubt it is easy to recover from being abducted so i aint defending them, im just saying they murdered no one and their story seems as fictional as arséne lupin or aj raffles
@@drzennox3690 tell me you weren’t listening when the entire video said NO ONE DIED without telling me 🤗 as for money heist, it’s not based on a true story, so i don’t know why that stick got lodged..
@@ralph5609 its L. HAHAHAHAHHAHA death note vibes (without deaths involved just making the people see the police uselesss)
"You're like scar face"
"SAY HELLO TO MY *LITTLE* FRIEND!!"
Starts aggressively peeing towards the assailant
☺️
24:50 okay, hear me out...what if this was just a ridiculously elaborate plan to get people to eat healthier, like an evil LazyTown?
For Post Mortem: Apparently Japan's high rate of cases solved, was attributed to them not properly investigating many cases, and labeling them solved much too quickly.
A lot of them are sadly, forced into saying they are the criminals as a way for the police to say, "We solved the case!".
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The US, UK, and South Africa have the highest rates of serial killers, but likely also have the best policing. Crime stays between nations are the hardest to trust.
@@rachelhansen2417 but us actually solves cases
Thats why Detective Conan and Kindaichi exists. Because the Japanese police are incompetent and couldn't grasp the simplest clue presented in front of them.
Carlos Ghosn escape is another example for failure of Japanese police in their handling of case.
For the Post-Mortem: I'm surprised you didn't mention that the group only stopped after the superintendent of the police, Yamamoto, killed himself in shame. That's when the last letter was sent, a few days after, in which said that they give their condolences and are stopping now. Love you both, #Shaniac
so they were just a bunch of trolls ?
Not sure buzzfeed could monetise the video if it had suicide themes.
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
they seem like respectable folks (aside from their threats and poisoning candy) if that's what caused them to stop
Yea I feel like that's why they stopped. Even when they threatened to poison people they clearly labeled the tainted ones and sent a newletter, I think someone actually dying crossed a line for them. Corporate sabotage and murder are two completely different levels.
I grew up with a lot of 'phantom thief' stories, so hearing about the Mystery Man with 20 faces was really cool!
14:51 I’m glad to know that I have that sort of power over you, Shane.
Missing facts: "Having entered the home of Katsuhisa Ezaki, the two masked men tied up his wife Mikieko (35 years old) and his eldest daughter Mariko (7 years old). Mikieko offered the men money and one of them responded, "Be quiet. Money is irrelevant."
they never wanted money.
Some men don't care for things like money, some people just want to watch the world burn.
i mean…. kinda badass.
@@InitialPC oh god that phrase is so overused by 14 year olds that i cringe every time i see this.
@@jackieburkhart3268 Why so serious?
@@InitialPC please. thou shalt not inflict this pain unto me.
For postmortem: I think the kidnappers allowed Ezaki to escape. They clearly weren’t interested in killing him or torturing him. Maybe they decided that starting their criminal escapades with a kidnapping would ensure they would be taken seriously from the get to. Once that was achieved, they let him to go on his merry way.
yeah I think they just wanted to mess with the companies not actually hurt anyone
Ryan’s face after Shane says “truth hurts” is everything
24:33 well boy howdy Ryan do I have news for you...
shane being afraid of anyone under the age of 23 has the same energy as john mulaney being afraid of middle schoolers
It does but it also makes it funny as I’m a person under the age of 23
“13 year olds are the meanest people in the WORLD”
Me feeling *p o w e r f u l*
"NOOOOO THAT'S A THING I'M SENSITIVE ABOUT"
@@joejonasfromcamprock886 HEY LOOK AT THAT HIGH-WAISTED MAN, HE'S GOT FEMININE HIPS!
For post-mortem: to me this def feels like it was done to humiliate the police force. From the letters taunting them to all the negative press the police got. I mean, the reason the rates are so high for catching murderers and thieves is because they often force evidence to fit suspects! Could this be a job to expose their incompetence and correct their reputation? Also I agree with Shane, it’s a bloody good cause, sign me up baby!!!
This is what I thought as well but it’s a shame that so many part time workers were let off but other than that I also agree with Shane that it is a good cause
I know right!? What a great cause! I love it when terrorists go and terrorize corporations that provide and employ thousands of hard working individuals! You just love to see people get stripped of their hard-earned money, by no-life retards, and who have to bring down others, instead of picking themselves up by their bootstraps and improving their own life!
That was exactly my point , since they couldn’t pin the crimes on someone (since they would continue sending letters poisoning etc) they looked incompetent since they probably pin whatever crime on some nobody with a weed charge but with these types of crimes they get stumped
Also targeting a corperation that caused direct harm to children then broadening it to include unhealthy food manufactures that target children.
I think the police were only taunted to bring attention to the case. The "thieves" wanted publicity to hurt the corporate reputation and the stock of those companies.
24:36 For anyone wondering, he's actually been identified. His name was Charles Webb.
Shane and Ryan : Yeah it's really cool seeing a corporation getting humiliated and blackmailed
Comcast: Oh really tell us more
On a serious note: if you two actually wrote a survival guide together, people would buy it. Or you could each write your own and make double bank.
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To be fair, during the 80’s the Japanese police were pretty aggressive and they’d force a confession from the “suspect” just so they could close a case.
Unfortunately this is still true...
If _Persona 5_ revealed anything, it's that this still happens.
It's been known that they still do this.
They still do this zhannell. This hasn't changed.
As soon as Ryan said the stats I was wondering if that was a factor.
This story is great. So much suspense. Glad you guys are covering cases in other countries too.
I love that they finally found the identity of the Somerton Man! His name is Carl ‘Charles’ Webb
Yay!
To be fair, Japanese and Korean courts is notorious for convicting quickly so all that successful arrests might not be the true culprits.
also i heard that in japan a lot of suspicious deaths/possible murders are listed as suicides in order to keep the solved murder statistic high? but i have no clue i just heard it online lmao
Yeah I was about to say that too Japan doesn't have a great justice system
Yup that was my thought. Easy to get a high "solved rate" if you base it on convictions and dont care if you convict the right person.
I read somewhere that Japan has a tendency of accusing foreigners or people who ‘look the part’ of a criminal, so it’s easier to get the conviction.
Exactly. Convictions don't mean they're all guilty. The Japanese police are expected to convict everyone they arrest.
Any one think it could have been a disgruntled cop trying to embarrass his current or former colleagues? Would explain how they were always one step ahead of the police.
And what if the child of the cop was also affected in the milk thing. Because the letter really showed resentment, and i think parents of those children would have more resentment especially if their children weren't even 2 years old yet
@@Angel12068 exactly
@@Angel12068 being a cop and having something like that happen to your child. would seriously make you question the justice you have worked so hard to enforce.
Tbh,that's a good theory
I was honestly thinking the same way.
I haven’t seen a video of the BuzzFeed Unsolved Network for quite some time but I’m sooo happy I came back to it with an amazing video like this. Thank you guys
Seriously I just want to say you guys are my favorite and I’m sure you hear that a lot but I truly do you feel like you’re my friends when I watch you! Your banter is awesome and I hope that you guys are friends in real life as well💛
They literally said
"It's not about the money, it's about sending a message"
And pissing the police off and enjoying it
why does Shane look like a frat boy and a stay at home mother simultaneously
i hate that this makes sense lmaooo
I cant unsee that now 😂
they had a valid villain arch if they are arsenic victims
Love all their shows. Laughed at the History show last night as I binge watched it. You guys are awesome.
For post mortem: I can’t tell if the criminals have beef with the candy industry or if the crimes were intended to expose the highly accomplished police as being ineffective and bumbling. Or maybe they were just dentists sick of filling cavities… who’s to say.
Loool good point I've only had one cavity so hopefully I've not been the cause of dentist revenge on candy shops
Lol, dentists like cavites b/c they get paid to fill them.
Could be both
Theory: it was Ryan’s dad. He’s a dentist
if their main goal was to humiliate the police maybe they picked candy companies because they knew business would eventually recover? or maybe they picked an industry that wasn’t essential (not everyone eats sweets, plus if they wanted to wreak havoc on the public maybe they would pick toilet paper companies idk)
it's moms/nannies, their name is from a child's book, they targeted candy companies, they warned the public so that no children were harmed, and the phone call is from a female and child. Not to mention that they could easily have an inside on either the police or with candy companies from husbands/employers
I’m curious how did you come to this conclusion it makes a lot of sense but I wouldn’t have thought it myself
I like you theory. However wouldn't the children accidentally rat them out.
@@SE_000 fair point but I would like to put in the a theory that it was a bunch of teens. Since depending on the age they Could drive, and due to them not actually owning things could learn to steal items. It isnt suspicious to have a bunch of teens hanging out. Also if they have parents working in the industry they could spy or ask questions and most would believe they are just interested in their parents jobs.
This makes a lot of sense!
i like this but you know you can just say "a woman and child", 'female' is a bit dehumanizing
I don't even like or care about mysteries, I just show up for the banter. Never disappointed.
One thing you didn't mention (though for understandable reasons) that I think sheds new light on the case. Five days before the final letter was received, Police Superentendent of Shiga prefecture committed suicide, and te final letter mentions this. I wonder if this was meant to be targeted harassment for him?
Post-mortem: The reason why the rate of solved cases in Japan was so high is because the Japanese police is notorious for violently forcing confessions out of suspects. There have been multiple reports of that. This case remained unsolved isn’t because it’s impossible to solve (hence the letters calling the police “idiots”), but simply because a crime this large-scaled hindered them unable to just pin it on anyone.
Nobody could capture me when I’m in the shower. I’m already small but now I’m wet and soapy? Slippery as an eel. They’ll squeeze me to hold me tight and I’ll just shoot out of their arms like a bar of soap. Then I grab my comedically large can of hairspray and get them in their eyes and lungs like a roach.
This is so funny op omg it made my night
Dwight scrute wrote this
this is the funniest thing I've seen in months I literally cannot breathe
Thank you for the visual image
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ryan had the perfect opportunity to pull a steve rogers and say "i can do this all day" at 10:02 but he missed it ☹️
I have never respected two men more than Shane "if I was a child reading these I'd be like, 'I wanna do crimes'" Madej and Ryan "If I get poisoned, its an occupational hazard" Bergara
As someone who’s 19 I feel so honored that THE Shane gets creeped out of me lmao
Me
finally smth to be proud of myself
Same
agreed
ayo same🤚🏻 we're doing the job mothman and goatman couldn't do
For Postmortem: Japan having such a high chance of solving crimes isn't a good thing. It's indicative of a "guilty-until-proven-innocent" justice system. They're conviction rate is also close to 99% for the same reason. I think you've talked about it in other episodes, but should have mentioned it here
and now im thinking this can be perhaps why 21 faces may be dissing the police. I'm not saying all people who hate cops but I know theres people who hate their local police so much that they'll do whatever opportunity is given.
As a side note, this justice system was the inspiration for Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney! The game is a parody of the Japanese justice system.
I think the overarching motive for them was to show that police dont actually have any idea what their doing. I mean looking at murder cases, they mostly get solved because the killer more or less turns themselves in, and this is expressed even greater with the fact that they hardly ever solve thefts and other such related crimes. A case is easy to solve when most of the work is done for you. For this, police realized that theyd actually have to work for once and low and behold, they were exposed to not have a clue what theyre doing.
The Monster with 21 Faces feels like they were actually quite ethical, like someone who wants to commit crimes and earn free money without hurting people. I feel as if the poisoning with the labels on the candy was literally just a threat, as they never went through with the non-labelled candy plan.
Bet it was just a group of normal people - or even a family (namely the child and mother) - who literally just wanted money.
Or it was in-experienced poor criminals who were ethically problematic
„Did they hurt anyone? Just corporations? Ok I‘m a huge fan“ me too shane, me too
Also humiliated the whole police force
Indirectly they did force a man to commit suicide but ok
@@nareshujjesha5558 Fan of the anticapitalist sentiment, not the poisoning and kidnapping 2 b clear
@@scarlettschwarz1331 oh okieeees sorry for assuming the wrong thing!
But wouldn't regular ppl working for the corporation lose their jobs or receive pay cuts
You know, I once saw that Japanese court systems almost always prosecute whoever is in on trial. So maybe they have a 97% closed case percentage but there might be a lot of innocents sitting in their prisons
i was gonna say. 97% conviction is not a good thing, actually. it’s time to let go of carceral thinking.
this is a very good point
@@centali6551 actually, it's even higher today. There's about a 99.8% conviction rate in Japan. Which is... Not good at all.
And still probably less people than in American prisons.
@@darrylkinslow5613 why is everything about america, stfu
24:37 it’s so funny that ryan specifically mentioned summerton man bc we DO know who that was now lmao
the fact that i've never seen this intro on literally any compilation is amusing
we love seeing ryan talk about his enjoyment of the suffering of mass corporations while filming a video for a mass corporation.
BuzzFeed isn't THAT big
@@selmacuprija8093 and? It doesn't matter. The sizes differ, that's just common sense. Shane is also richer and actually not just richer but indeed rich in general. It doesn't mean people who aren't as rich as him should f*ck around with him. I thought he was smart.
@@pearlkross3745 they're entertaining as hell but they don't know what they're talking about. They're your average Twitter user against the establishment while constantly contributing and working for it more than the average person. Doesnt help they actively make uninformed and blatantly incorrect statements on divisive and political issues.
@@charsplat1212 wdym by your last point?
@@charsplat1212 ^^^ exactly
Post Mortem: There was a death, however. The police superintendent commit suicide. Which prompted the final letter to police. While they didn't directly kill the man, it is related to the crime because he killed himself because the crime couldn't be solved by his police officers. The criminals did however seem remorseful that the guy commit suicide in their last letter.
Nahh that's actually really sad.
I was also wondering how many people were left unemployed and the negative effect it had on those families.
That's really sad. Poor guy. I feel bad that he did that.
i think the group took risks but mightve not actually wanted to actually harm or kill someone. so maybe they stopped bc of his suicide?
Wait…what if that was the Monster with 21 faces real goal to take out the police superintendent 👀 ?
@@Mars-oz6ye YOOOOOOOOOO MAYBEE
24:32 Ryan got his 'life flashing before his eyes' wish and the identity of the Somerton Man HAS BEEN SOLVED
Well, at least he knows who the Somerton man was now.
"it's either a flash mob, or a corporate terrorist"
a sentence I never thought I'd hear
Post mortem: I don't believe the kidnapping was ever meant to be successful. "The monster" never seemed like they wanted the public to get hurt, hence why Ezaki was able to free himself. Most moves were meant to send a message to police, not to scare the public. Idk maybe this is obvious and I'm late getting the memo lol
Maybe they were unhappy with the police work on other non-related cases and used this as a method of sorta "calling them out" per-se
But tons of employees lost their jobs
But tons of employees lost their jobs
doesnt post mortem mean after death??
@@screechfrogge2597 It's a thing for BU unsolved for Shane and Ryan to possibly address this on a video for the Q and A
Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/2GK2PqLhJ0Y/видео.html
But yes Post Mortem in Latin means After death
I like how he avoided saying "Say hello! To my little friend!"
*"Your headstone's just gonna say "Blew It".*
I chuckled at that one. 🤣
"Do not poison the public", another valuable advice by Shane
man, it's kinda sad how despite that the monster with 21 faces clearly had robin hood-esque motivations, it still ended up harming normal citizens with glico laying off 2/3 of their part-time employees. it kind of backfired in that way.
Honestly I think they only cared about making fun of the Japanese police, so they might not believe that it backfired
Capitalism can't be hurt in this way, it's designed to feed from us and ruin us if it falters. This is why when disaster strikes, it's socialism that is always what is called upon to help society.
I’m always going to be coming back to these episodes, because, damn, I really miss true crime