This House is CAVING IN ON ITSELF!!! Can We Save It?
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- hey Gang! We're back on our Sunken Chapel house project today and we're excited to be back. A lot of you guys have been asking for updates on this project so here ya go, one big update! We have our work cut out for us on this project, that is.. if we're even able to work on it. We now have to make the decision whether or not this house is savable, or if needs to be torn down and rebuilt from the ground up! Let us know in the comments what you would do and if you wanted to tackle the repair, how you'd go about it! Thanks for watching gang, and we'll see ya in the next one!
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Man, normally when I see a job like this, I start getting doom and gloom. The positive attitude you guys have is awesome! You two are very inspiring...I'm very excited to see this project continue!
They have a positive attitude because they're making $$$. Poor homeowner is probably not having a great day.
@@Noold money money money money…………. 🤑
Score! Gonna buy a new truck off this job 💸💸💸
@@mr.anderson9938 Sadly the job got cut very short as there was way too much damage to try to save the house. Was cheaper to tear it down and build a new one.
@@Jalbesbe where did you get that information?
Appears to me that the bathroom will need to be addressed eventually. My call would be to fix it now while house is undergoing serious repair.
Agreed. bathroom repair now would be cheaper then doing it in a year or 2.
Agree 100%
I think they were thinking about tearing down the whole thing and starting over at one point. Now that it's going to be even more expensive to fix, they might want to go with that option.
Just try add more support under the bathroom maybe
@@ExcelInstructor They still might not be able to afford to do all of the work at once
Do the bathroom. Buy once cry once. Don't give the situation a chance to worsen.
The property value as described @ 14:12 "super desirable neighborhood" indicates 'doing it right'.
I have concerns about 'jacking it up' as per wood rot, but it will be a good test to see what's solid, and what's squalid.
Man so many human problems can trace roots to the fact that we can not really afford to do it all even if we know we should or could or want to. Sometimes the best u can do is think ahead for the next guys, hide some drawings and notes in walls, and don't build them into a corner for sake of ease. That's why we should be in awe for all we have, that some generations really did try to build for future too. ( Great works)
@@stephensaines7100if the roof is still up and solidly square you'll always be able to jack it up somehow.
I love this guy! Such a great, positive outlook on everything - he obviously loves what he does! Even in 100' weather!
So glad to see you are filming this project. Can’t wait to see how this all turns out.
Angle the circ-saw blade to match the cut nail angle and cut in the center of the flooring next time, you'll hit way fewer nails.
I've been waiting for this one too. If the house has another bathroom and can live without that one, then if repairing it properly just can't happen right now, I would demo it and repair the framing & floor (just up to subfloor, not fully finished floor), rough in the plumbing so it's ready to go, and then close the door on it. Make it safe and clean for now, and make it a bathroom again later.
Move forward with that in mind, whether a replacement goes in now (much easier and done right) or later. The property value indicates doing it completely now. The budget is the owner(s) decision. They'd be wise to do it all now.
Excellent idea.
Job got cut, house was torn down as it was cheaper than trying to save the old one.
This looks like that house from a few months ago
Thought you'd forgotten about it so glad to see an update 👍👍👍
2:30 when he said “we gotta demo this floor” I nearly cried. That hardwood is so beautiful, demoing it should be a crime!
Thats what im saying lol, find a crawl space 😂
Robyn I feel the pain. They could have taken it apart and reused it. My house is built mostly from my families original house constructed here in 1887, all of my hardwood was taken apart and reused from the first house, 137year old white oak. But you know how women and hardwood floors are alike? If you lay em right the first time, you can walk all over them for a century without a squeak. 😂😅😂
I really want to see how you will jack the house up in that confined space! Can't wait! Love the editing!
I’m intrigued now!!! I want to see what you guys do to fix the bathroom. I know that projects always turn out to be more than what you intend. But it’s when you get done and look back on it, and know that it was done right. That really makes the difference!
Just know you guys give me hope with starting up my own Handyman Business, I enjoy the challenge of the unknown, I too enjoy helping my fellow man and woman with any fix they need around their home. Again, thank You for being true to the trade.
These old houses it seems to never stop one thing leads to another and another and another good luck hope it all goes well ALOT OF WORK
Wow what a mess! Just did a termite ridden floor in my bathroom but thank God the support beams were fine. Almost cried when you had to remove that beautiful hardwood floor though.
It’s been so long I’d forgotten about this project. I’m hyped for this one. That floor is just held together w the sub floor 😱😱
It really takes a special person to dig deep enough to find the answers on a job like this! You and your dad make this kind of work so enjoyable to watch! Please keep up the good work!! 👍👍👍😎🇨🇱
Thx Rico 👍👊
Put a drain in the middle (near that hole ) and tile the floor . BIG shower room . 😁
If they were southern Baptists a large font could fit into the whole chapel theme.
I’ve been waiting to see what happens with this one!
Same! So glad to see it!
@@empressche333 ikoo
Me too.
me too - this is basically what i’m trying to fix in my house and can’t find many videos w some of these specific issues
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My Wife and I recently bought a house that had been repaired but from the master bedroom to the middle bedroom the floor slops to the exterior wall. We have plans to have a local company that specializes in foundation issues. You guys do great work and I'm really looking forward to seeing how they are going to jack up that house.
Gotta tell ya, I'm amazed at how positive you guy's are! Like Mike Marino pointed out down below, flat amazed but inspired. I've been working on an old house and to tell you the truth, I need some more of your go fore it enthusiasm!! Thank and and really glad I ran across you guys.
Thanks G D !!!
The house I currently own is pretty much the same, though in better condition. The last seven years have seen me repairing and replacing most of the house. It was built in the 30's and I've seen all kinds of jerry rigging and multiple generations of techniques. All I can say is, I love the enthusiasm and I hope it all comes together.
Thx Randy 👊
I came back from a deployment and found my house collapsing like this. Had to replace 160 joists while lumber was sky high. 2000 plus sq/ft on first floor. Been 7 months and house is still not back to normal. Good luck on this project
160 joists?🤯
Sometimes demoing a whole house and rebuilding it proper might be a better solution.
Holy cow! I hope it's going okay? My dad started adding a second floor right when lumber prices soared. He's ticked off too
Big money
How much you spent?
Great Vid! I honestly got a renewed respect for plywood. That floor was held up just by plywood!
Thanks for taking on such a challenging project that requires so much hard work. I look forward to seeing the repairs. I hope you are getting paid appropriately.
Seeing houses like this makes me
So thankful to have a basement. That plumbing 😱
You guys make some great content! And excellent job. I'm feeling like I can actually tackle my kitchen floor.
So glad you guys put this up! Been waiting to see how you’re gonna tackle this
You are both honest down to earth builders, great work so far.
Man that subfloor and beam situation was downright rotten. They called the right team for the job though! Jordan teasing you with the edits at times is hilarious. Hope the storm doesn’t ruin anything for you fellas. Glad we missed it in H town. Stay blessed and on task boys.
Love the ties still on the wall. Was waiting for the pole saw.
Ties and belts looked moldy
What a great project to share with the youtube community! I love watching how you can repair places like this! what a challenge.
The most exciting project ! Please don't keep us waiting too long. I'm interested in the engineering plan !
I hope we see the engineer's solution that you mentioned, even if it isn't used. Great video and hard work!
The time to fix it is when you find it.
Can't wait to see how it all goes back together. Killer job!
I wouldn't want to even look at this job! Hats off to you guys for keeping the positive attitude going!
Looking forward to a followup with this place. My house 1940's is suffering some same issues. Would like to see the fixes. Good video.
Sad that they’re losing all that beautiful antique hardwood floor, but I’m glad you can save the home. I think it would be best to do that bathroom while you’re at it.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, but I imagine the labor cost would have swamped those poor monks.
My son and I were just working on our project Saturday. We had to rip out the old kitchen and dining room and fix the floors and new drywall. We just put in a new ceiling in that area and had to level the ceiling after removing the old blown in insulation and ceiling. Man, it turned out to be quite a job. We just put up new lights in that area and now are working on the master bath which needs the same, floor, drywall, and ceiling. It will be nice once completed but boy, it is a job. Not as big as yours but big for us.
More updates! Please! Love your videos! Keep up with the optimism!
Wow, this reminds me of job I did where a 40 year old, two story addition on a house had tons of structural framing water damage from the backyard window above the crawlspace, all the way to the top of the skylight above the master bedroom. I commend you guys for looking at this challenge with a great attitude. Very professional, the owners are in good hands. 💥👍⚡⚡
Been waiting for this one!
Heck yeah!!
I really hope we get to see some cool stuff! This looks exciting. Great videos guys
My property was built back in the 60's with a concrete slab foundation. No issues with the floor caving in but took a hell of a time breaking down the concrete for adding a bathroom plumbing. I knew concrete becomes harder with age but the Makita jack hammer was giving its business.
Best “RealityTV” to watch, but it’s legit and run by a two-man crew. Very positive! When you two see a trial, you see a door of opportunity-not a spiraling dead-end of complaints and stagnation. Thank you for your videos. Most enjoyable!!
Canadian framing is platform not balloon. So each floor can be separated and to an extent addressed separately. An insurance job we were called into do we had to replace part of one exterior bearing and one 25 foot interior bearing wall of kitchen after a nasty fire. Two of us created interior micro lam collar beams and literally raised the load of the house (2.5 storeys) and were able to rebuild the 2 x6 frame walls and put the load back down. We had a solid poured basement and structurally sound foundation piers to build our jacks on and thus our two sets of collar beams. I wouldnt want to touch such a set up you had to deal with here. Very curious to see what you'll do in such a piecemeal situation.
Completely gut the entire interior, and rebuild everything. What else can you do? Or just bulldoze and start over. It can't get much worse than this, I feel bad for the owners...
Living in the South. I agree.
If the partitions and walls are solid, which indications show (the rot is localized, not pervasive), and contained subfloor, why do more than what the owner(s) decide? Once you start tearing down unaffected walls, where do you stop?
@@stephensaines7100 I am assuming that's what they plan to do. It will be very interesting to watch! But it does seem like the rot is worse than they thought (i.e. the bathroom issue). "Eh, we just gotta pull out the entire subfloor and all the joists, no biggie" :)
that probably too costly. I am thinking just somehow support the roof, tear down all the original rotten area and rebuild.
New supports on piers cut out the rotten, put vapor barrier on the dirt instead of between flooring, save all exterior and interior framing/drywall etc
You know whats great .. i woke this morning thinking about that project yall are working on .. i was wondering when yall were going to head back there .. i cant wait to see the progress .. also .. yall are going to get lots of rain from this storm in the gulf .. yall stay safe ..
I am so glad your showing this video. It is teaching me how to work on my first home. Thank you
think that wood was rotted before the subfloor was added, that is why they added the plastic.
About 3 years ago, I have the same problem with a house, Client was already looking to demo and park a trailer on his property. Some girders where touching the floor, all of the house was 12" or less to grade. not venting and plumbing leaks where also the main culprit. Gutted entire subfloor, poured footings where needed, and backfield entire house with gravel and sand, poured Concrete slab. 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, Kitchen and Living room all got remodeled. Insurance paid most of it $60k), client paid $10k. Considering we included upgrades, it was a steal. 1 bath got a new ADA shower, new kitchen cabinets and countertops and every room got Room AC unit. Never though I would see that again.
Yeah, I've been thinking slab + insulation the whole time too!
3bed 2 bath remodel WITH slab WITH new footings and subfloor for 60k??? Was it a toy house? Jesus, I want your prices
@@sergeig685 I guess it helps when your capable of accomplishing this things, and with a bit some help on the labor side, it keeps costs down. I did have several contractors BS their way to it and other ran, and still others didn't know what to do. The greatest satisfaction I got was doing what many others weren't up to par. I can't post pictures here, I would, but for sure adds a scratch on my tool belt.
I remember this place. Can't wait to see more!
Anything is possible. But, when you first showed us this one, I thought.. Wow! ..this is going to be a big project. Ground vapor barrier... framing... plumbing... flooring...finishing. Kudos to you guys because there will be some monster sweat into this one just from breathing! But, you da man.
damn bro, just stumbled across this channel, def subscribed, it's always fun seeing people passionate about their jobs doing their best.
Paul, could a person get under the house, jack the house
up and replace the rotten beams. That way you could keep the floors that are in good shape.
Can't attach the subfloor to the new beams.....
White mold from leaks/probably hot water/and without any venting, created a sauna-like condition under there. I had this happen in my rental when tenants failed to tell me there was a leak. Luckily, it was remedied before it did any extensive damage. The mold (small white spots) was just starting to form on the beams. When this happened, I realized all the vents (10) had been covered over when the house was stuccod before I purchased it (I lived there for 25 years 🤦♀🤷♀). It was a super easy fix. I literally felt the house take in deep breath when this was done. GREAT VIDEO!!
WOW! That's a major project. I'm sure you guys will fix it right. Love watching your videos.
Painful to see such a beautiful hardwood floor being torn up like that!! I know you had to, but man!!
Not really but he didn’t care , not his house !
@@henryblicharz5556 idiot
Time for a teardown..How much can you band-aid a home before it becomes less cost-effective. I admire your determination though guys. I've done plenty of renovation in my own home, however this is extreme. Best of luck 👍Hydrate!
it is cracking me up the ties and belts hanging there .... that is hilarious. amazing work guys ... always great humor and solid profession work
Wow is all I can say, that is scary, trying to imagine a number of people on that floor system , sure glad they had the sense to have you come and look at those few loose boards, otherwise a number of individuals could have been seriously hurt! You are very organized in you're thinking things through. Go slow and do it right and no one gets hurt. GREAT work guys! As for the bathroom, just get it done now, the cost now as opposed to later is way, way....way cheaper now tben retro later on. Plus it's like more convenient to kick them all out one time rather then go thru it all over again. Andrew
I'm shocked that house is even standing up
I'm still in favor of lifting the house. Even if it's just enough for a little more crawl space. Being able to make repairs in the future, which seems inevitable, will save in the long run.
Lifting the house is temporary. It takes the weight off the foundation so you can do foundation repairs, but then you have to put the house down again. I'm not entirely sure how they're going to lift the house to repair the wood framing (apart from it giving them more room to move around) since what they're repairing is also what the jacks will be using to hold everything up.
@@c182SkylaneRG are you saying that you can’t add to the piers to maintain a new height?
@@funny36ful I suppose, for the house in the video, you technically could. The number of jacks you would need to properly support the house up off its current foundation, however, is going to make it extremely difficult to move around underneath the house.
Otherwise, my experience is with full basement foundations, which are much harder to change once poured. For a pier foundation such as the one in the video, however, I don't suppose it would be as much trouble to make the piers a bit taller. The trouble you ARE going to run into, however, is how much taller you want to make them. If you go up more than one or two courses of bricks, you're going to need to widen the piers, otherwise any side-loading (wind, improper alignment, etc) is liable to cause them to tip over or snap off underneath the house). Same concept as using 6x6 posts for a 12 ft high deck, vs just 4x4 posts for a 4 foot high one.
@@funny36ful Take a straw. Cut it so you have a segment that is 1 inch long. Set it upright on the table, and push down on it with your finger until it bends. Now take the rest of the straw, and do the same thing. Note how much force is required to cause each segment to bend.
The same principle is true of the piers under the house. A little extension is probably fine, but too much extension can make them more likely to bend or break sideways, causing the house to collapse.
As I mentioned: a couple courses of bricks is probably fine. Any more than that, and you need to widen the piers so they can withstand the added torque.
Torque is force times length. If you apply the same force to a longer length, you have more torque. The base of those piers can only withstand so much torque before they break.
We've got a house with same situation... My husband is so distressed over it. Watching your video,.. calmed him down some. Thank you.
Paul and Jordan best wishes and keeping feeding us, please. I dig the tunes, perfect!
Wow what a mess! This is going to be really interesting to see how it comes out so I’m gonna make sure and follow this. The one question I had my mind was are the engineers, architects, insurance adjusters, and possibly building inspectors going to need to see underneath the house now that you’ve got this much demoed? I know one doesn’t commonly invite building inspectors to get their opinion or orders, but in this case I’d be really worried about things biting my ass down the road so crossing “T’s”and dotting “I’s” you know.
camera and pics
Ain't worth doing if it ain't done right.
What's up Stud Pack team, thank you for offering us your knowledge and experience in construction. I wish you success in all your future projects! Great work guys!!
Thx Alberto 👍
This is the real world of repairing and/or renovating older properties. I never started one of these until the owner committed to see it through, fully cognizant that it could be straightforward or it could turn into a nightmare.
Only a nightmare the first few times. Lol. Then you get use to the destruction that must take place to git er dun.
Well floors like that aren’t normal around me either but even more abnormal to drill a hole and spray water everywhere 😂 was dying to know why the floor was so wet
Plastic sheeting has killed more framing than most people would believe. This house must have had good termite barriers or the moisture would've attracted termite to some good eating
The plastic vapor barrier would have had to have been installed below ALL of the wood in order to have not been trapping moisture in the wrong place. Crawl spaces should be treated like that, and spray foam is often used to insulate the walls of the crawl space if it is not ventilated.
Vapor barriers are not as much the issue has a nail in the coffin imo, up north they are important. But your exterior wall needs to stay sealed or in this case you cant ignore water leaks and block all the crawlspace venting. And honestly the whole treating crawlspace as both interior and exterior rather than one or the other is probably the biggest failing in modern us construction.
@@stich1960 - yes, a crawl space is either interior or exterior, and the structure should be built to make it clear which is the intent.
@@stevebabiak6997 Yes!!!! The FLOOR of the crawlspace should have the barrier!
@@stich1960 Definitely. My comment was in light of their decision to have no ventilation.
Wow!! I do this kind of work and believe me its exhausting. Southwest Florida is brutal for 6 months out of the year. I'm guessing $100,000 minimum to get it back to a safe livable functional condition. Great content Paul and Jordan! You guys are the Best! Good luck. God bless. And practice safe demo! Ha!!
Wooohooo! I have been waiting to see this one!
Typically I’m the first one in to see if it can be fixed( I’m a flooring contractor ) I do not do structural is my normal response after seeing. Then following question from them is what do yo think it will cost to get fixed? EXPENSIVE!!!! Sounds like you have a good game plan good luck guys can’t wait to see
I was wondering - my guess is that this is going to be between $80k and $120k by the time it is done
I'd say it's about the numbers as always but, if feasible, of course you do the bathroom. Teardown and rebuild wouldn't be an option for me. Maybe do the bathroom the next year if they have a budget on this job. As to how I would do it, exactly the way you are .Looks terribly daunting but not as hard to do as it appears.(I've done a few over the years mainly caused by ants in my area.
wow guys!!! what a wonderful new opportunity for a video to add to your awesome channel. great project and fun to watch too
That is some amazing amount of rotten framing! I am amazed that the building is still standing!
I hope you guys can save it for the Brothers!
Man I wish I had an opportunity to work with my dad... you two truly have a great relationship and work so great together.
You guys are great builders, truly jack of all trades when it comes to building/carpentry. With all the specific companies/unions (demo/framing/finish/tile) it is extremely rare to see now a days and it’s almost unheard of to see guys who actually are good at all aspects of building. Nice to see the youngster learning the skills from someone who knows his stuff! He’s going to be making crazy money eventually, no one wants to work the trades anymore and those that do are only helpers or want to be in a union where they can slack.
.The only two things I would’ve done differently would be more for my own well being and future issues.
1 take more precaution when you find mold. Respirator on at all times in the work area. Use zip walls/plastic in doorways blocking rest of the house. After removing old lumber spray a chemical (QD64 is best) on/around the area where the mold was or even on the new lumber where it seemed to grow the last time… this kills any small particles left and prevents future growth. If it is a really likely areas they make a white paint for inside walls and floors that goes on studs/joists to guarantee no mold
2 I would cut the small hole first on that floor, get a look down at the joists. If that big section you cut became to heavy for those rotted joists & falls through to the ground its an absolute nightmare. The chances of that are low but when the floor is 4-5 inches low only 7 feet off the wall the joists are clearly failing. That subfloor being cut could’ve been the final blow and the whole section could fall down to the ground.
Just some tips I thought I’d share. But you guys do great work and I’m absolutely a supporter!
I love watching you guys jump from installing hardware on kitchen cabinets to demo like this. The website must say.... "we do it all." under services offered.
I got two workers to dig a ditch in crawl to access areas needed to repair plumbing and floor supports. i am a builder and carpenter and realize how difficult some redos are Hope you cut brick out in 2 areas to allow cross vexillation in crawl. I enjoy your videos You always do things the right way
Woohoo. Use nothing but pressure treated joists for the repair please. And make sure you put lots of blocking.
I'm curious: what's the feasibility of a northern-style Concrete Foundation with a Basement down there in LA? Seems like it'd help with floor joists rotting, and you don't have to worry about frost caving it in, but you seem to have a pretty high water table. Concrete's waterproof, though (if done right), so I'm still having trouble seeing the downside, if done properly.
The basement would be a cistern!
A lot of issues with houses like this to include basements are due to not having any type of vapor barrier underneath the house. A good 12mil vapor barrier will solve this problem or prevent it from happening. A conditioned crawlspace takes that a step further.
The videos I've watched are really good, and you do a great job explaining things. I have come across several projects that you have worked on, but it seems some of the projects you make videos on you don't finish videos on the project from start to finish. I'd really love to see the projects you work on have videos from start to finish, and the ones that require multiple videos, put links to them in each video in the series. Thanks for the content!
That slow mo shot haha 🤣 beast mode , Thanks for bringing us back to this one 🤘
Demolish the house, get rid of the cast iron, start from scratch
Where is the second part? What happened?
No second part. Owners decided to tear it down
Epic slow-mo footage. LOL! Love you guys and all the great content!
Amazing no one had gotten hurt falling through a floor. Must be some skinny brothers in that chapel.
That beautiful tongue and groove hardwood also helped to keep that floor floating above the air space where the joists were decomposed to no structural integrity. Shame that it had to be demo’ed to fix the structure.
Maybe you could have used a grinder to cut through that flooring; they often get used to cut through metal, of course with the proper blade attached.
That’s why you pour a slab. Make your house the ship it’s supposed to be. Great work. Really like your spontaneous videos.
The high water table makes slabs fail in Central Texas as it most likely would in Louisiana. Black land Prairie is very high in clay as are bayous. Drought causes clay shrinkage rapid rain fall loosens clay so we have rapid foundation stress.
@@normaalvarado2880 In my area we also have clay ground. The quality to make brickwork. Engineers demand a “general foundation slab” this 30cm and reinforced. On the bottom the slab is wrapped in thick plastic before the poor. On the side it is protected by bitumen roofing (the black stuff you attach with fire). The idea is ofcourse that the structure “floats” while the clay does what it does. Expand, shrink etc. This is in europe.
We have some joists rotting in our house that will be to be repaired. I have only felt a ton of doom and gloom for the project. It’s refreshing to see people not upset about doing this work. I wish you were nearby as I wouldn’t hesitate to hire you do to my job.
I'm looking forward to watching this build. Looks very challenge.
Scary to see homes in the south floating on piles. Makes me glad living up north with basements and better insulation and vapor barriers.
That is mostly older homes as modern construction is typically slab on grade. The cost of a basement in southern Louisiana doesn't make sense because heating losses through a slab in the South during the winter are simply not an issue compared to the cooling effect provided by that same slab in the sweltering summers. Plus, the ground doesn't freeze in the South during the winter, so no need to dig down below a frost line. Modern houses in the South are very well insulated because cooling costs are significant otherwise.
@@billclinton6040 yeah it's cheaper until you gotta demo half the structure
Plenty of basement wall issues, water intrusion, forever damp, and other problems with "up north with basements". In Indiana, we got many issues even with a new house built in the last 5 years. Water (or vapor) is wood's worst enemy and does not bode well for poorly constructed concrete basements either. Keeps my company busy.
We got 6" of rain in a couple hours the other day and it submerged the bulkhead for the basement at a buddy of mines, whole basement is flooded 4' deep going to be bringing my debris pump there shortly, basements have draw backs too
@@billclinton6040 i never felt any cool air from my slab..
Whatever happened with this project? I’m curious to know the outcome of what was decided!
Where's the house lift and repair video?
Spyder Co demo blades for the circ saw. Hands down the best I have used from a home center. I recently demo'd a kitchen and living room with 2 layers of 3/4 ply, 1 layer of 3/4 t&g pine and a layer of 3/4 red oak. Quite literally hundreds of nails and that blade is still in the saw cutting sheathing.
Videos like this make me feel good about the problems i have with my house
what a nice tng floor to be ruined..
Knock it all down build new. Go up another floors .
All new .
If it's all rotten, I don't see how you can fix everything...you'd have to demo the whole house
With that said I have no doubt you can do it
Sure glad I have a full basement!! This can't be inexpensive to fix.
I went through a similar project on my sister in laws parents house. All the floor joists wer rotten in the living room and her old bedroom. Only reason they never fell through the floor is because the old tongue and groove hard wood floor was holding together so well. blew my mind lol