Why not do a BEGINS 2.0!!! “Just a domino effect of shit” - Riley Reviews 2024. That lowkey does sum up TDK trilogy Batman announcements the past few years 🎯
All companies, all of them do not want a secondary market. The “value” you believe your figures has is self imposed. Funko reissues quietly, Hasbro, Star Wars, name it. Vintage signs, video games, all reissue. Not saying is right or wrong. Toys are not meant to be investments. The next generation of collectors have the right to get those pieces that they missed No?
I’m completely fine with 2.0 releases. What I’d like to start seeing in the future is 2.0 accessory packs of said releases, in case the 1.0 figure CAN be upgraded with some of the 2.0 improvements. That way you aren’t tossing that first figure aside and effectively flooding the secondary market as well. Maybe not all of the original figures can be improved, but certainly headsculpts and single parts of outfits and other accessories. It would not be terribly difficult for a company like Hot Toys to do this. If Asmus Toys can do it, so can Hot Toys. It’s time they grew some corporate balls and took a risk and tried it.
@@CollectorZown Yes, we are all aware of this. Hot Toys practices some pretty shady shit. They intentionally only make slight improvements with each new release. They want to stretch out their profit margin as much as possible, instead of diverting resources to branching out and making a wider range of characters. Hot Toys would rather give us reissue after reissue, instead of knocking it out of the park the first time. Very rarely have they ever just given us the straight up definitive version of a character. I honestly can’t even list one. I’m sure they are a few, but I’m struggling to recall any that would never, ever need a 2.0 release. Maybe Yondu? Speaking of Guardians of the Galaxy, the first Star Lord could really use a new coat made of genuine leather. That accessory set would guaranteed sell out. A lot of people still own and prefer that first figure. I doubt anyone’s coat is still intact after all these years though. The satchel either.
I think you have to look at as Hot toys isn't competing with itself, it's competing with J&D and InArt who are coming to the market with Dark Knight figures, and even doing this armory. It's for new collectors, who didn't get the 1.0, and for those who want to upgrade. Plus It helps them be defensive about keeping the license too. WB doesn't seem to care about exclusivity with licensing, so everyone is coming to play right now. And it's great for the customer, we are getting options. Including back pedaling and getting used cheaper 1.0 versions.
Yeah man, maybe it is a WB thing. Especially with DC not having a lot of options for selling figures with its market, it’s a fair argument. Thanks for watching!
This shit boils my blood. How are you supposed to collect anything if you just get a 2.0 so close to it. If it’s 1.5 years or later. Fair game. Anything under that to me, is borderline ridiculous and I agree. Only hurting your brand by pissing off loyal customers who are preodering early. Company is just foolish sometimes, and it must be talked about
Bro went off!! It’s completely justified to be upset with this. I think we just have to accept that unfortunately nothing is off the table with 2.0s. Thanks for watching
I get the frustration with them being released so close to each other but this isn’t a 2.0 to the acrylic version, it’s a 2.0 to the exact same armory that was released a few years back that had a version with Alfred. Looking at it like that I think it justifies the 2.0 naming convention. I do think it sucks that they announced so close to each other though
Is everyone forgetting Hot Toys has their Asia market, it’s not always about us. JND Studio has a 1/6 Batman Amory and this is going directly after that as a cheaper alternative. Just my opinion.
If you only collect with the intent of reselling then I can see why this might tick you off. If you're a collector who missed the first go-round, now you have another option. (I'll site the 89 Batman 2.0 as an example which I preordered) If you don't like it, don't buy it. Batman sells, that's their business plan.
I'm just waiting for Inart at this point. I wonder if HT has some info on what the Inart TDK Batman is going to be and are trying to undercut them with an earlier release.
Maybe, but with INART being real slow with announcements, this may be a longgg time till we see their TDK version. Hopefully soon though. Thanks for watching!
Who in their right mind. Ordered the acrylic armory, saw this.. and said “wow, another armory and Bruce Wayne and Batman to add to the collection. Yes!” 😂 hot toys gonna hot toys! This set looks class though
I saw the video title and it took a minute to realize that this wasn’t about the one they had just announced Lol. I agree that this new one looks way better, in my opinion. The tailoring looks incredible, but I don’t like the Bruce Wayne expression at all. I believe the only thing Hot Toys is concerned with is how much money they can get out of us. Once they get the money, it’s on to the next thing. I don’t mind 2.0 because people that are new to the hobby can get figures that are too rare or too expensive now. It doesn’t devalue my 1.0 unless I let it. Only I control whether I forget the joy I felt for the 1.0 is gone because they announced a 2.0 that we probably won’t see for 2 years lol. My biggest beef is why they keep releasing new versions of this Bale Batman and shit on Batman Begins! Great video, bro!
Completely valid bro, they’re really milking us collectors, it just seems strange because they want the most money, but people are now gonna cancel that other armory. So are they not also hurting their own pockets? And yea I think I gotta hit a rewatch because to me these look solid. thanks for watching though bro, and providing great thoughts.
I’m debating on what to do, I have TDK Rises one on order still and I want this new one. Do I just keep the order and get both or cancel TDK Rises? They’re from different movies, so I could definitely make it work with both, but I’d save myself $600 dollars by cancelling 🤔
I’ll be honest, cancel TDK rises version. This is far better and you don’t need two of practically the same sets. Bruce also looks way cooler, that’s what I’d do!
Also Riley, people who have expendable income and the space to have this armory, will have both versions. They are from two different films. Just like the dark Knight had the Joker as the villain. Dark Knight rises had bane. So if people are collecting a Batman and villain from each film then they may want every armory that's going to be produced. Even if I did have the extra cash to get all these, I probably wouldn't do to space
I pre-ordered this instantly for two reasons: 1) I canceled my TDKR Armory set Hot Toys announced months to a year ago due to savings and ended up waitlisted as it's sold out almost everywhere. 2) The JND is way too expensive for my price range. That being said, The Dark Knight Armory is the way to go! It's a 2.0 and arguably from the best out of the Nolan trilogy. I'm happy that Hot Toys announced this!!!
100% this is the best one we have had so far. Makes sense to cancel the one months ago, I think this is the superior option hands down! Thanks for watching
This would be fine, if they announced them both at the same time and had multiple SKUs, with and without the Bruce Wayne and Batman figures. But this is bad management.
I don't like to correct you Riley cuz I really enjoy your videos but, you keep saying the original armory. When you are talking about the dark Knight rises clear acrylic armory. Hot toy is actually released this same armory that you're talking about 8 to 10 years ago. So the one that you talking about today is a 2.0. I wish that they would have did the Batman begins armory which is like a wardrobe cabinet made of wood. Who knows and maybe someday.
Totally right, I misspoke and meant by original it was the TDK rises armory. I just think the timing of it is a miss that’s the main point. I love the correcting, keep it coming bro thank you for the info!
Why is this the trigger for so many collectors? Hot Toys has been doing this for years now. It’s just a company that makes toys. These are toys, not collector items anymore. Hot Toys used to be at the top of the 1/6 world. It’s now just a cheap brand. The reissue cycle will never end.
That’s fair man, I think a lot of people aren’t accustomed to such a quick turnaround time for 2 different pos of the same type of character and set. 10 months without it being released, really? But that’s the way of the game as you said
@@Riley.Reviews can totally understand the hate though. I tried to pre order it originally for the Batman suit but like you, I HATED the Bruce Wayne look. Outfit didn’t sit right and his face looks a little wax-like. It’s a no from me😂
The scary part about this release is we have not started on the anniversary of the Batman and they're giving us this so who knows what they'll give us when that starts
I didn’t even realize this was about TDK I thought this was TDKR clear armor case! Holy crap no wonder people are pissed! Guess hot toys trying to take in JND Studios as well 😂 bro hot toys are like Hollywood…boring and un invented nowadays with constant rehashing of materials. DC shit movies is what’s causing this constant milking process of the Nolan verse. Don’t worry we’ll deff see 2.0 of Snyder verse in sure, we still need Superman and Wonder Woman decent 2.0s. Really wish hot toys made my Vol2 Drax..you know an actual needed figure to finish a line
Damn you hit the nail on the head lol. bro did not miss! Yeah I agree, hopefully with the new DCU we can see some more retooled figures. Right now it’s all about the past. Definitely would like to see a Cavill Superman 2.0 🙌
Hot Toys doesn't care about aftermarket value at all. The reason for making limited runs is to get people to pre-order so they have money to invest in production. They don't give a crap what it's worth after release. I do agree though they should have waited because this will def cannibalize their sales on the DKR version. Only hardcore dark knight fans would want both. I only collect Batman and even I only want the Dark Knight version.
“It’s all about the money” yeah, the limited runs are probably just another way to pump quick cash for them. But for sure this should have been announced like a year later. Just seems like a silly time, thanks for watching and providing your thoughts!
"This release is a ridiculous atrocity and an insult to collectors and I am to totally disgusted, I cannot believe the terrible business model that HT is moving with which makes no sence at all .... I still Pre Orderered it" -Everyone right now 😂😂😂
Hey Riley, great video of you sharing your thoughts. While I understand that you prefer Bruce Wayne in a suit, I also think that having Bruce in his gym shorts holds just as much value. Reason being that this less formal outfit captures the brokenness that Bruce had experienced being Batman for many years. That knee brace is pertinent to telling that part of the story and it’s great that Hot Toys is giving us that alternate look to show another side of him. Agree?
That’s actually very well said, I never thought about it that way but this is a great way at looking at that set and differentiating the two. Thanks for sharing and watching!
im in the same boat as you HAHAHA. got DX19 and was pissed with the acrylic armory release so i decided to skip it and the lame power pose. guessed it was a damn good call on my end and paid off well.
Now I’m pretty convinced that they will make a new DX 2.0 because they know that a lot of people just want the Batman and not the armory. Stay tuned. And this Armory 2.0 is the same from the Rises Armory just the gloves that don’t tuck in the gauntlets like the other one. Anyway it is what it is
The thing I find so funny about this release is I was talking about this yesterday somebody asked me if I was getting the Armory from The Dark Knight Rises and I told them no I wanted the first Armory from The Dark Knight and look what they did early this morning my God I can understand collectors being upset but me I am happy to see this but I'm not going to purchase it now but I will very soon but they shortened people won Alfred what I'm wondering if they're going to create him by himself or will I have to get the third party one
This is another time where I wait for the InArt. As slow as they are, at least they will look at the source material and get most of the accuracies done correctly. Unlike this “2.0” here that is again, inaccurate, wrong, and poorly managed. This should be a learning lesson to not PO hot toys because they will eventually sneak a way to pump another money grab out. Great vid calling it out
The IP lived long enough to become the villain, they’re milking the shit out of this IP, if you going back to it go for Batman Begins, fix the suit, scarecrow, Ras Al Ghul, Ninja Bruce, Jim Gordon etc, I am TDK’d out
Alright, why are we getting this? Not begins 2.0? 1: There's literally already one on preorder, why do we need another tdk batman / armory? 2: no one is talking about this; they're getting worse at bale's face. Particularly the cowl. The dx19 had wide open eyes yes, but the mouth plate is better, with ot's cowl it looks amazing. The body is better but damn. Bale keeps getting made to look older, by everyone. This looks like college humor batman Is it good? yes, but it's how repetitive it is. And it doesn't look as good as OT's upgrades or Unreal's interrogation cowl (picking one specific scene can help as bale in the cowl will always slightly change), they should hire them because at least the constant releases will be worth it.
It’s completely valid, at this point. For hot toys being an accurate company. They fall flat in a lot of figures when it comes to movie accuracy. When your company is based off that, it seems kinda strange that they pick and choose what can be completely accurate and not at all. Begins 2.0 would’ve been sick, thanks for watching!
Dude, You're a beast!!! "Domino effect of shit" I couldn't stop laughing!!! But you are totally right! 'Happy collecting" is turning into 'Buy our shit, we don't care. "
I think people forget that hot toys is a business. They don’t care about value. Collectors are the ones that are assign any particular figure value. Hot toys tare in it to make money. This isn’t a slap in the face to collectors. I’m getting both. If you like it, collect it if you don’t move on the negativity is unwarranted, there are people who didn’t get to collect the 1.0 or other figures and these issues allow them to collect myself included. Let’s just enjoy the hobby.
That’s fair, I just think the timing is the biggest issue. But like you said, it’s a business. I would never say the negativity is unwarranted. It’s always good to speak your mind on things because you never know if they can listen to the feedback. Look at peacemaker for instance, with the negative backlash that got changed. Thanks for watching!
Negativity to fix a figure I agree but on the fact that (bad timing or not)a business releases a new product to make money I don’t see the big deal. But I’m not the content creator. It’s your channel and you post your opinion, I respect that. My post was my two cents. Thanks for responding
They definitely "Chrome Mando'd" this announcement. But what's really important here...that LITERALLY NOBODY is talking about...BATCHUCKS. THIS ARMORY HAS BATCHUCKS AND NOBODY SEEMS TO HAVE NOTICED. WHY ARE THERE BATCHUCKS? AND WHY HAVE WE NEVER SEEN HIM USING THEM??????????
Yeah, they are cannibalizing the other one, but it’s not the first time they’ve done it. Look at Beskar and Chrome Mando 😂. Somebody’s spreadsheet said this was a good time to do it. Love the tailoring in Bruce Wayne’s suit though
If someone wanted this but ordered the Dark Knight Rises one, that's on them, not Hot Toys. They're different things. And at least they announced it now and not after the Rises one was released.
That’s fair I guess. I just think it’s kind of slimy to do another version 10 months after when it hasn’t even released yet. But it’s their business so what can we do lol. Thanks for watching!
They’ve done this for years, they are a business and a toy company. Nothing new at all. If they never did updates or 2.0s they would eventually die off. To be fair no 2.0 Alfred. I have the original and extremely happy to get this one too.
Its odd the troopers (black & white) w/DS environment, Imperial Commando (BB), Obi Wan (Mandalorian armor), etc were just announced but are already out. The timing of announcements/releasing BM DX19, DKR armory, DK armory 2.0, etc seems odd too. These actions were probably planned at least yr or two ago. HT must anticipate how will collectors will respond. Most businesses make decisions in order to make a max profit. The current state of global economy makes those decisions harder. I'm sure on the business side (capital, logistics, etc) of HT there are things going on that we are not aware of. W/that being said its hard to know mindset of HT. Enjoyed your video. Keep up the hard work.
Thanks for providing great thoughts! I agree that the timing of all of this is so strange, I think we just have to accept that hot toys is a business and really don’t care about the value of our collections. Thanks for watching and the kind words!
These are different armories...both will sell. The batman collecting community is massive and both will sell. To the average collector no, we want just 1 representation. Hot toys will make money off this, that's all they care, money talks and if the majority are buying it then they don't care about the angry customer at the end of the day...those angry customers will still buy hot toys. Collecting hot toys is not an investment, every purchase should be viewed as a depreciating asset from the get go. If you can't justify a depreciating asset don't go for it.
The thing I find so funny about this release is I was talking about this yesterday somebody asked me if I was getting the Armory from The Dark Knight Rises and I told them no I wanted the first Armory from The Dark Knight and look what they did early this morning my God I can understand collectors being upset but me I am happy to see this but I'm not going to purchase it now but I will very soon
Ok hear me out, HT is doing this Dark Knight release because InArt is about to hit us with a Dark Knight banger ..so I am sitting on my hands cause I think I might be on to something
Tbh superhero/fantasy "movie" figures rarely gets an up value since companies will always redo them no matter what unless they are owned by sony 😂. The only figures for me "that" has any real value are video game figures since once they are done it takes a very very long time for them to redo another one on that "specific titled game" heck maybe even never again. Like lets say the final fantasy 7 1/6 figures by gametoys i know they are third party but til this day no company has ever made a sixth scale in a "hot toys standard" figure of any final fantasy character and the quality they made is very hard to beat if square enix even tries. Now lets say a kratos(not in a mondo/damtoys,rah, purearts standard) but in a "hot toys/inart standard" was released or lara croft, nathan drake,the original solid snake not big boss. This is also one of the reasons i have respect for iconiq studios tackling video game characters in a higher standard even compared to their movie licensed ones.
This is also another great point. Value in any toy company is getting pretty redundant, but I feel like when hot toys are making a bunch of things labeled as exclusives it gives collectors the impression that things will be more limited. But announcements like these really make me feel the opposite. That VGM analogy was bang on, Thanks for sharing all your thoughts!
@@Riley.Reviewsi mean sure, but mostly their exclusives are b class characters, repaints or variants unless its in the "artisan" line which will be holding the most value from now on i think, but even then other companies will be doing them, the only thing holding them together are the artisan disney licensed ones, and once disney shares the 1/6 license to other companies(inart/jnd) like warner brothers did then idk 😂 💔
I meant TDK rises version, misspoke! It just seems for a 2.0 they got the same things from that and just put it on different clothes for Bruce. The timing just seems wrong here personally
Well, they have all the materials and newly sculpted head and suit at their disposal. Repackage and slightly retool the existing old armory electronic, it's no brainer release. Heck they can even speed up the release date of this 2.0 by manufacturing the TDKR armory, producing extra batches for this at the same time. They shared most of the same content except the Armory.
@@bryanchin8330 yea it’s valid to be a no brainer, but aren’t they also losing money by people cancelling the one announced 10 months ago? Just seems like a hit and miss for them, but probably more of a hit
Great honest and informative video man! Like others I have shifted to Star Wars more now but this does not make a name of how they could do this. Keep up the great content! Strong work brother 💪🏻
... No ? First release can have some old charm, but logic 2.0 are something needed for a consistent line or for new collectors. I don't know, maybe, instead of just insulting, using a brain can be usefull ?
Why not do a BEGINS 2.0!!! “Just a domino effect of shit” - Riley Reviews 2024. That lowkey does sum up TDK trilogy Batman announcements the past few years 🎯
It’s because TDK is insanely popular in Asia unfortunately
Yea begins 2.0 is what everyone wants. That figure release got laughed off the entire globe 😂
All companies, all of them do not want a secondary market. The “value” you believe your figures has is self imposed. Funko reissues quietly, Hasbro, Star Wars, name it. Vintage signs, video games, all reissue. Not saying is right or wrong. Toys are not meant to be investments. The next generation of collectors have the right to get those pieces that they missed No?
Completely valid, they’re a business at the end of the day, it’s the way of the game
I’m completely fine with 2.0 releases. What I’d like to start seeing in the future is 2.0 accessory packs of said releases, in case the 1.0 figure CAN be upgraded with some of the 2.0 improvements. That way you aren’t tossing that first figure aside and effectively flooding the secondary market as well.
Maybe not all of the original figures can be improved, but certainly headsculpts and single parts of outfits and other accessories. It would not be terribly difficult for a company like Hot Toys to do this. If Asmus Toys can do it, so can Hot Toys. It’s time they grew some corporate balls and took a risk and tried it.
@@karascrow can and want are different stories. Yup.
@@CollectorZown Yes, we are all aware of this. Hot Toys practices some pretty shady shit. They intentionally only make slight improvements with each new release. They want to stretch out their profit margin as much as possible, instead of diverting resources to branching out and making a wider range of characters.
Hot Toys would rather give us reissue after reissue, instead of knocking it out of the park the first time. Very rarely have they ever just given us the straight up definitive version of a character. I honestly can’t even list one. I’m sure they are a few, but I’m struggling to recall any that would never, ever need a 2.0 release. Maybe Yondu?
Speaking of Guardians of the Galaxy, the first Star Lord could really use a new coat made of genuine leather. That accessory set would guaranteed sell out. A lot of people still own and prefer that first figure. I doubt anyone’s coat is still intact after all these years though. The satchel either.
@@karascrow it’s more complicated than that. The frustration is real on all ends.
I think you have to look at as Hot toys isn't competing with itself, it's competing with J&D and InArt who are coming to the market with Dark Knight figures, and even doing this armory. It's for new collectors, who didn't get the 1.0, and for those who want to upgrade. Plus It helps them be defensive about keeping the license too. WB doesn't seem to care about exclusivity with licensing, so everyone is coming to play right now. And it's great for the customer, we are getting options. Including back pedaling and getting used cheaper 1.0 versions.
Yeah man, maybe it is a WB thing. Especially with DC not having a lot of options for selling figures with its market, it’s a fair argument. Thanks for watching!
I might get this, right now Star Wars Hot Toys are killing my wallet
Fair bro. we may even get more with the event closing next week! Thanks for watching
This shit boils my blood. How are you supposed to collect anything if you just get a 2.0 so close to it. If it’s 1.5 years or later. Fair game. Anything under that to me, is borderline ridiculous and I agree. Only hurting your brand by pissing off loyal customers who are preodering early. Company is just foolish sometimes, and it must be talked about
They’re toys
Agree, incompetent and inconsistent
@@veronicamathias9656$570 “toy” come on now, the hate is valid
Bro went off!! It’s completely justified to be upset with this. I think we just have to accept that unfortunately nothing is off the table with 2.0s. Thanks for watching
I get the frustration with them being released so close to each other but this isn’t a 2.0 to the acrylic version, it’s a 2.0 to the exact same armory that was released a few years back that had a version with Alfred. Looking at it like that I think it justifies the 2.0 naming convention. I do think it sucks that they announced so close to each other though
Is everyone forgetting Hot Toys has their Asia market, it’s not always about us. JND Studio has a 1/6 Batman Amory and this is going directly after that as a cheaper alternative. Just my opinion.
That’s also a good point, the Asia market seems to love TDK trilogy so I guess that makes sense, I just mainly think the timing was really bad
If you only collect with the intent of reselling then I can see why this might tick you off. If you're a collector who missed the first go-round, now you have another option. (I'll site the 89 Batman 2.0 as an example which I preordered) If you don't like it, don't buy it. Batman sells, that's their business plan.
Well said
I'm just waiting for Inart at this point. I wonder if HT has some info on what the Inart TDK Batman is going to be and are trying to undercut them with an earlier release.
Maybe, but with INART being real slow with announcements, this may be a longgg time till we see their TDK version. Hopefully soon though. Thanks for watching!
Great video, I think they did mismanage it a bit. Buttt they’re still suckering everyone into buying, endless cycle
Like I said at the end. We’re all fools because we’re all still gonna buy it 🤣
The entire industry of toys is reissues. It’s a good topic Riley.
Who in their right mind. Ordered the acrylic armory, saw this.. and said “wow, another armory and Bruce Wayne and Batman to add to the collection. Yes!” 😂 hot toys gonna hot toys! This set looks class though
There is a Nolan diehard fan out there salivating at all of this. Has to be
Ignore the drama, stay away from the constant complaining and just enjoy the hobby
It’s not drama, it’s just my opinion, but fair!
@@ericcooney6594 I 100% agree pick the armory you want.. if you want both but can’t afford it oh well 😄
I saw the video title and it took a minute to realize that this wasn’t about the one they had just announced Lol. I agree that this new one looks way better, in my opinion. The tailoring looks incredible, but I don’t like the Bruce Wayne expression at all. I believe the only thing Hot Toys is concerned with is how much money they can get out of us. Once they get the money, it’s on to the next thing. I don’t mind 2.0 because people that are new to the hobby can get figures that are too rare or too expensive now. It doesn’t devalue my 1.0 unless I let it. Only I control whether I forget the joy I felt for the 1.0 is gone because they announced a 2.0 that we probably won’t see for 2 years lol. My biggest beef is why they keep releasing new versions of this Bale Batman and shit on Batman Begins! Great video, bro!
Completely valid bro, they’re really milking us collectors, it just seems strange because they want the most money, but people are now gonna cancel that other armory. So are they not also hurting their own pockets? And yea I think I gotta hit a rewatch because to me these look solid. thanks for watching though bro, and providing great thoughts.
Hey where did you get that peace T-shirt from ? Looks great . Link ? Thanks
Honestly I couldn’t tell you 😂 it was a gift I got a while ago, sorry!
No worries ! Just liked it lol
Both figures are articulatable this time😅
Yet another reason to suck people into cancelling the original 😭
I would love to have a Batman Begins 2.0 with Bruce's head with the pack tbh
That would be great! Thanks for watching
I'll be waiting for some Inart Nolan batman releases 🤞🏽🤞🏽
InArt should do this figure justice in accuracy standpoint. I can see what others are saying now
I’m debating on what to do, I have TDK Rises one on order still and I want this new one. Do I just keep the order and get both or cancel TDK Rises? They’re from different movies, so I could definitely make it work with both, but I’d save myself $600 dollars by cancelling 🤔
I’ll be honest, cancel TDK rises version. This is far better and you don’t need two of practically the same sets. Bruce also looks way cooler, that’s what I’d do!
Also Riley, people who have expendable income and the space to have this armory, will have both versions. They are from two different films. Just like the dark Knight had the Joker as the villain. Dark Knight rises had bane.
So if people are collecting a Batman and villain from each film then they may want every armory that's going to be produced.
Even if I did have the extra cash to get all these, I probably wouldn't do to space
Yea too much space chunk for me, but definitely could be for others!
100% getting this, glad I missed out on the previous one. Batman’s 85th anniversary event is gonna be huge this year
Worked out big for you bro! Sweet, thanks for watching
I pre-ordered this instantly for two reasons:
1) I canceled my TDKR Armory set Hot Toys announced months to a year ago due to savings and ended up waitlisted as it's sold out almost everywhere.
2) The JND is way too expensive for my price range.
That being said, The Dark Knight Armory is the way to go! It's a 2.0 and arguably from the best out of the Nolan trilogy. I'm happy that Hot Toys announced this!!!
100% this is the best one we have had so far. Makes sense to cancel the one months ago, I think this is the superior option hands down! Thanks for watching
This would be fine, if they announced them both at the same time and had multiple SKUs, with and without the Bruce Wayne and Batman figures. But this is bad management.
I agree. Why did they wait 10 months, just seems so strange
I don't like to correct you Riley cuz I really enjoy your videos but, you keep saying the original armory. When you are talking about the dark Knight rises clear acrylic armory.
Hot toy is actually released this same armory that you're talking about 8 to 10 years ago. So the one that you talking about today is a 2.0.
I wish that they would have did the Batman begins armory which is like a wardrobe cabinet made of wood. Who knows and maybe someday.
Totally right, I misspoke and meant by original it was the TDK rises armory. I just think the timing of it is a miss that’s the main point. I love the correcting, keep it coming bro thank you for the info!
Why is this the trigger for so many collectors? Hot Toys has been doing this for years now. It’s just a company that makes toys. These are toys, not collector items anymore. Hot Toys used to be at the top of the 1/6 world. It’s now just a cheap brand. The reissue cycle will never end.
That’s fair man, I think a lot of people aren’t accustomed to such a quick turnaround time for 2 different pos of the same type of character and set. 10 months without it being released, really? But that’s the way of the game as you said
Dodged a bullet with TDKR armoury! Thank god I saw this vid man! Appreciate it. Pre ordered👍🏻
Yeah anyone who didn’t order is now glad lol
@@Riley.Reviews can totally understand the hate though. I tried to pre order it originally for the Batman suit but like you, I HATED the Bruce Wayne look. Outfit didn’t sit right and his face looks a little wax-like. It’s a no from me😂
The scary part about this release is we have not started on the anniversary of the Batman and they're giving us this so who knows what they'll give us when that starts
Exactly!
I didn’t even realize this was about TDK I thought this was TDKR clear armor case! Holy crap no wonder people are pissed! Guess hot toys trying to take in JND Studios as well 😂 bro hot toys are like Hollywood…boring and un invented nowadays with constant rehashing of materials. DC shit movies is what’s causing this constant milking process of the Nolan verse. Don’t worry we’ll deff see 2.0 of Snyder verse in sure, we still need Superman and Wonder Woman decent 2.0s. Really wish hot toys made my Vol2 Drax..you know an actual needed figure to finish a line
Damn you hit the nail on the head lol. bro did not miss! Yeah I agree, hopefully with the new DCU we can see some more retooled figures. Right now it’s all about the past. Definitely would like to see a Cavill Superman 2.0 🙌
Hot Toys doesn't care about aftermarket value at all. The reason for making limited runs is to get people to pre-order so they have money to invest in production. They don't give a crap what it's worth after release. I do agree though they should have waited because this will def cannibalize their sales on the DKR version. Only hardcore dark knight fans would want both. I only collect Batman and even I only want the Dark Knight version.
“It’s all about the money” yeah, the limited runs are probably just another way to pump quick cash for them. But for sure this should have been announced like a year later. Just seems like a silly time, thanks for watching and providing your thoughts!
The head sculpt is a solid 7, there is something off around is nasal area/ cheeks area….i do like it but there is something off
Valid Marc! Thanks for watching
"This release is a ridiculous atrocity and an insult to collectors and I am to totally disgusted, I cannot believe the terrible business model that HT is moving with which makes no sence at all .... I still Pre Orderered it"
-Everyone right now 😂😂😂
LMAO 🤣 so true, we hate on it so much but they win in the end. Thanks for watching!
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Hey Riley, great video of you sharing your thoughts. While I understand that you prefer Bruce Wayne in a suit, I also think that having Bruce in his gym shorts holds just as much value. Reason being that this less formal outfit captures the brokenness that Bruce had experienced being Batman for many years. That knee brace is pertinent to telling that part of the story and it’s great that Hot Toys is giving us that alternate look to show another side of him. Agree?
That’s actually very well said, I never thought about it that way but this is a great way at looking at that set and differentiating the two. Thanks for sharing and watching!
if it was 2.0 it would of included Alfred, honestly i just want the sculpt if it even looks like this at release.
Also true, weird how they skipped on him. Yea the sculpt looks nice. Thanks for watching!
im in the same boat as you HAHAHA. got DX19 and was pissed with the acrylic armory release so i decided to skip it and the lame power pose. guessed it was a damn good call on my end and paid off well.
lol 😂 bro it paid off in the end I guess. I just feel this needed to be called out on! Glad this gave you a laugh, thx for watching
All they care about is money, don’t care about collector’s or value!
Yes for sure, business moves at the end of the day
This town deserves a better class of collectors
Now I’m pretty convinced that they will make a new DX 2.0 because they know that a lot of people just want the Batman and not the armory. Stay tuned. And this Armory 2.0 is the same from the Rises Armory just the gloves that don’t tuck in the gauntlets like the other one. Anyway it is what it is
lol another DX 2.0 would be insane. But you’re right, it’s just the way of the game I suppose!
The thing I find so funny about this release is I was talking about this yesterday somebody asked me if I was getting the Armory from The Dark Knight Rises and I told them no I wanted the first Armory from The Dark Knight and look what they did early this morning my God I can understand collectors being upset but me I am happy to see this but I'm not going to purchase it now but I will very soon but they shortened people won Alfred what I'm wondering if they're going to create him by himself or will I have to get the third party one
This is another time where I wait for the InArt. As slow as they are, at least they will look at the source material and get most of the accuracies done correctly. Unlike this “2.0” here that is again, inaccurate, wrong, and poorly managed. This should be a learning lesson to not PO hot toys because they will eventually sneak a way to pump another money grab out. Great vid calling it out
“I’ll wait for the InArt” see you in 2033 😂 thanks for watching!
The IP lived long enough to become the villain, they’re milking the shit out of this IP, if you going back to it go for Batman Begins, fix the suit, scarecrow, Ras Al Ghul, Ninja Bruce, Jim Gordon etc, I am TDK’d out
BOOM! Nailed it 🫡 thanks for watching
Alright, why are we getting this? Not begins 2.0?
1: There's literally already one on preorder, why do we need another tdk batman / armory?
2: no one is talking about this; they're getting worse at bale's face. Particularly the cowl. The dx19 had wide open eyes yes, but the mouth plate is better, with ot's cowl it looks amazing. The body is better but damn. Bale keeps getting made to look older, by everyone. This looks like college humor batman
Is it good? yes, but it's how repetitive it is. And it doesn't look as good as OT's upgrades or Unreal's interrogation cowl (picking one specific scene can help as bale in the cowl will always slightly change), they should hire them because at least the constant releases will be worth it.
It’s completely valid, at this point. For hot toys being an accurate company. They fall flat in a lot of figures when it comes to movie accuracy. When your company is based off that, it seems kinda strange that they pick and choose what can be completely accurate and not at all. Begins 2.0 would’ve been sick, thanks for watching!
Dude, You're a beast!!! "Domino effect of shit" I couldn't stop laughing!!! But you are totally right! 'Happy collecting" is turning into 'Buy our shit, we don't care. "
Hahah, that is facts 😂 buy our shit. Love it, thanks for watching and appreciate the kindness 🙌
They made me look like a clown for PO-ing the armory they announced last year. This new one is so much better as is that Bruce.
😔 facts
I think people forget that hot toys is a business. They don’t care about value. Collectors are the ones that are assign any particular figure value. Hot toys tare in it to make money. This isn’t a slap in the face to collectors. I’m getting both. If you like it, collect it if you don’t move on the negativity is unwarranted, there are people who didn’t get to collect the 1.0 or other figures and these issues allow them to collect myself included. Let’s just enjoy the hobby.
That’s fair, I just think the timing is the biggest issue. But like you said, it’s a business. I would never say the negativity is unwarranted. It’s always good to speak your mind on things because you never know if they can listen to the feedback. Look at peacemaker for instance, with the negative backlash that got changed. Thanks for watching!
Negativity to fix a figure I agree but on the fact that (bad timing or not)a business releases a new product to make money I don’t see the big deal. But I’m not the content creator. It’s your channel and you post your opinion, I respect that. My post was my two cents. Thanks for responding
They definitely "Chrome Mando'd" this announcement. But what's really important here...that LITERALLY NOBODY is talking about...BATCHUCKS. THIS ARMORY HAS BATCHUCKS AND NOBODY SEEMS TO HAVE NOTICED. WHY ARE THERE BATCHUCKS? AND WHY HAVE WE NEVER SEEN HIM USING THEM??????????
They really did chrome mando this lol 😂 and we’re still gonna buy it! That’s weird with the batchucks lol
Yeah, they are cannibalizing the other one, but it’s not the first time they’ve done it. Look at Beskar and Chrome Mando 😂. Somebody’s spreadsheet said this was a good time to do it. Love the tailoring in Bruce Wayne’s suit though
We’ll never escape it will we lol, good thing it doesn’t happen super consistently though. The tailoring looks clean!
I think it’s fair because fans can cancel the old one and only lose the NRD.
I suppose, but NRD’s are no joke. Especially with a high priced one such as this. Thanks for watching!
If someone wanted this but ordered the Dark Knight Rises one, that's on them, not Hot Toys. They're different things. And at least they announced it now and not after the Rises one was released.
That’s fair I guess. I just think it’s kind of slimy to do another version 10 months after when it hasn’t even released yet. But it’s their business so what can we do lol. Thanks for watching!
They’ve done this for years, they are a business and a toy company. Nothing new at all. If they never did updates or 2.0s they would eventually die off.
To be fair no 2.0 Alfred. I have the original and extremely happy to get this one too.
You are totally right. It is a cancel and get the new 2.0. I hate loosing money but the new one is so much better.
Yea man tough pill to swallow, but it’s valid! Do what must be done. Do not hesitate 🙏 thanks for watching!
I don't own any Christian Bale Batman and didn't really care about the other one so maybe I'll get this one
Awesome, glad it worked out for you!
Peace Riley 😄 great vid btw
lol 😂 keep the peace! Appreciate you bro
Pure speculation but maybe HT wants to cancel the previous one? Good way to kill it without saying cancelled? 🤷♂️
That would be nice, but super doubtful. Thanks for watching!
Its odd the troopers (black & white) w/DS environment, Imperial Commando (BB), Obi Wan (Mandalorian armor), etc were just announced but are already out. The timing of announcements/releasing BM DX19, DKR armory, DK armory 2.0, etc seems odd too. These actions were probably planned at least yr or two ago. HT must anticipate how will collectors will respond. Most businesses make decisions in order to make a max profit. The current state of global economy makes those decisions harder. I'm sure on the business side (capital, logistics, etc) of HT there are things going on that we are not aware of. W/that being said its hard to know mindset of HT. Enjoyed your video. Keep up the hard work.
Thanks for providing great thoughts! I agree that the timing of all of this is so strange, I think we just have to accept that hot toys is a business and really don’t care about the value of our collections. Thanks for watching and the kind words!
Cancelled the first one and lost my nrd because this is the one I wanted. I missed out on the first release. It really sucks, but that’s the game.
Dammn, it’s unfortunate for sure, saw this one coming. Thanks for watching!
thank god i hold of on everything beside rooted joker on this franchise
Yeah it’s best to wait to order at this moment. At least for DC lol. Thanks for watching!
Hot Toys need to reissue characters collectors actually want.
Agreed
These are different armories...both will sell. The batman collecting community is massive and both will sell. To the average collector no, we want just 1 representation. Hot toys will make money off this, that's all they care, money talks and if the majority are buying it then they don't care about the angry customer at the end of the day...those angry customers will still buy hot toys. Collecting hot toys is not an investment, every purchase should be viewed as a depreciating asset from the get go. If you can't justify a depreciating asset don't go for it.
Right, that’s valid. Most people will be upset, then buy it anyways lol. It’s just the way of the game. Thanks for watching!
They teased the tdkr armory for years, definitely wanted that version and He’s literally dressed exactly like this in the scene 😅.
That’s valid, thanks for providing your thoughts!
Has JND said anything lately? Because they kinda just need to be quiet.
Been real quiet for sure, they’re annoyed with us likely 😂
The thing I find so funny about this release is I was talking about this yesterday somebody asked me if I was getting the Armory from The Dark Knight Rises and I told them no I wanted the first Armory from The Dark Knight and look what they did early this morning my God I can understand collectors being upset but me I am happy to see this but I'm not going to purchase it now but I will very soon
Worked out for you, let’s go!
Ok hear me out, HT is doing this Dark Knight release because InArt is about to hit us with a Dark Knight banger ..so I am sitting on my hands cause I think I might be on to something
You may be on to something for sure!
Tbh superhero/fantasy "movie" figures rarely gets an up value since companies will always redo them no matter what unless they are owned by sony 😂. The only figures for me "that" has any real value are video game figures since once they are done it takes a very very long time for them to redo another one on that "specific titled game" heck maybe even never again.
Like lets say the final fantasy 7 1/6 figures by gametoys i know they are third party but til this day no company has ever made a sixth scale in a "hot toys standard" figure of any final fantasy character and the quality they made is very hard to beat if square enix even tries.
Now lets say a kratos(not in a mondo/damtoys,rah, purearts standard) but in a "hot toys/inart standard" was released or lara croft, nathan drake,the original solid snake not big boss.
This is also one of the reasons i have respect for iconiq studios tackling video game characters in a higher standard even compared to their movie licensed ones.
This is also another great point. Value in any toy company is getting pretty redundant, but I feel like when hot toys are making a bunch of things labeled as exclusives it gives collectors the impression that things will be more limited. But announcements like these really make me feel the opposite. That VGM analogy was bang on, Thanks for sharing all your thoughts!
@@Riley.Reviewsi mean sure, but mostly their exclusives are b class characters, repaints or variants unless its in the "artisan" line which will be holding the most value from now on i think, but even then other companies will be doing them, the only thing holding them together are the artisan disney licensed ones, and once disney shares the 1/6 license to other companies(inart/jnd) like warner brothers did then idk 😂 💔
Honestly? I think this was about as spicy as Ketchup. LOL
Hahah 😂
It almost makes me want to cancel the dark knight rises one and not get either
Dammn. Understandable!
What u mean which is the original one? The original Bat Amory was released 10 years ago. 😂
I meant TDK rises version, misspoke! It just seems for a 2.0 they got the same things from that and just put it on different clothes for Bruce. The timing just seems wrong here personally
Well, they have all the materials and newly sculpted head and suit at their disposal. Repackage and slightly retool the existing old armory electronic, it's no brainer release.
Heck they can even speed up the release date of this 2.0 by manufacturing the TDKR armory, producing extra batches for this at the same time. They shared most of the same content except the Armory.
@@bryanchin8330 yea it’s valid to be a no brainer, but aren’t they also losing money by people cancelling the one announced 10 months ago? Just seems like a hit and miss for them, but probably more of a hit
You can just collect armoury’s! lol
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Great honest and informative video man! Like others I have shifted to Star Wars more now but this does not make a name of how they could do this. Keep up the great content! Strong work brother 💪🏻
For sure, glad it was helpful. really appreciate it brother!
That’s why first release is ALWAYS best. Only suckers fall for the 2.0
😂 they 2.0d the 2.0. Thanks for watching
... No ? First release can have some old charm, but logic 2.0 are something needed for a consistent line or for new collectors.
I don't know, maybe, instead of just insulting, using a brain can be usefull ?