Steve Jobs (7/10) Movie CLIP - Jobs vs. Sculley (2015) HD
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Steve's (Michael Fassbender) dramatic exit from Apple leads to a heated confrontation with Scully (Jeff Daniels) moments before the NeXt presentation.
FILM DESCRIPTION:
This incisive biographical drama written by Aaron Sorkin (The West Wing) explores the genius and shortcomings of computing guru Steve Jobs (Michael Fassbender) through the lens of three product launches.
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Cast: Michael Fassbender, Jeff Daniels
Director: Danny Boyle
Producers: Mark Gordon, Guymon Casady, Christian Colson, Bernard Bellew, Scott Rudin, Jason Sack, Danny Boyle, Lauren Lohman
Screenwriters: Aaron Sorkin, Walter Isaacson
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"Artists lead and hacks ask for a show of hands"
Terrific punch line
I sat in a garage and invented the future.
What's your résumé?
@Gareth M wozniak didnt have a clue when it came to the corporate world. jobs did much more after wozniak left.. imac, ipod, iphone, ect...
Justin Springer that’s an irresponsible statement lol- that analogy doesn’t work
Frank Lesher can someone please explain what that sentence means? Thanks
Aaron Sorkin absolutely slaughtered this script. It's just phenomenal.
This and The Social Network are his crowning achievements.
Micah Johansson why? Just curious
Eh most of his scripts are too overly dramatic for my liking.
I got turned off of him with the movie A Few Good Men. The idea that a general would concern himself with the likes of a lowly Marine was complete nonsense to me.
Micah Johansson: Not really, he is a decent person. And, a perfect reason why his writing characters are totally opposite. He is a super writer!!
William McCormick verbal opera of high order
I always ger chills when he says "and I'm right". Terrific scene
I like the fact that he says it 3 times as if to convince himself that he is right.
@@pditties That is called 'The Triple Rule', useful to create a powerful line
Mines when he says "I effing dare you" but same with the chills. Affirmation in the plot that the wrong decision was possibly made. At the same time, maybe it was the right decision. Look where we are today.
Same!
@@danielthomson9178 "I watched it happen! I saw it happen! Don't tell me it didn't happen!" Nero in Star Trek (2009).
When Scully says 'Jesus Christ' with that little shake in his voice I always feel so sorry for him.
why?
Henry Gonzalez it shows how intense this scene is.
Cuz he’s panicking u can hear from his voice, great acting
So who fired whom ? Scully fired Jobs, and then when Jobs came back to join Apple Scully was still there ? Sorry, i dont get it
Peter S basically the council chose Scully over Steve cuz they think they should keep developing Apple 2 and give up the Mac, then they lost a bunch of money cuz of letting Scully runs the company so now he’s losing his job
We all know the acting, directing, editing, etc in this film was phenomenal, but I'd like to take a moment to talk about what a good job the lighting guy did... Holy shit this particular set is lit beautifully! Good lighting adds so much to the drama of a scene.
I agree. Very nicely done.
lighting guy.... Cinematogrpaher or Director of Photography
True... but be honest, what business in the 80s had a light strip that crossed the entire table :D
That score though...
Thats cinematographer's job
How this movie wasn't nominated for Best Editing is beyond me.
*What a great scene*
Beyond me too man!
Or Best Adapted Screenplay
It should have easily gotten screenplay, editing, and score nominations. Just from an objective filmmaking standpoint, there’s almost no argument for why they didn’t get them. Everything about this film will go down in history as some of the Academy’s worst snubs ever
@@Lamidemonami7891 What's even more of a shame is that it was a pretty big bomb at the box office when it was in theaters.
Fassbender absolutely murdered, MURDERED this role.
@MAGACOP Kutcher? He is no match to Fassbender by any stretch of imagination...
@@krishnaannapragada7259 Michael Fassbender is a phenomenal actor and he's great in this film...but in no way shape or form does he remind me of Steve Jobs in it. Not just the look obviously (was the director's choice), but he didn't seem to have any of the Steve Jobs mannerisms either
should have won the oscar that year, but they gave it to Leo pretty much as consolation price for all the other losses
@Bestgirl Sumi it’s not a fair comparison fassbender had a vastly superior script.
@@krishnaannapragada7259 But this movie is historically inaccurate.
"You want some advice Pepsi Generation"...great line.
"I bled that night, and I don't bleed". In context, this line gave me chills
What do you mean "In Context"
@- he's probably asking what the context is
The beauty of this film and script is showing how Steve Jobs was the real issue. For all those Sculley haters, what would you have done in his position? Apple II was the only thing making money, the facts pointed out Jobs was wrong.
This is quite fictional; Steve left voluntarily because Apple planned on putting him in a dead-end position where he wouldn’t be able to make new products.
It's not very far off at all. They gloss it over so it's not so confusing for the casual viewer. It's hard to fit all the drama between Jobs and Sculley into 20 minutes. Also, a lot of times when people on boards resign it basically means they were fired. They do the whole, "Btw, we expect your resignation letter by the end of the week" thing.
AlexxEnglishh But That isn’t what occurred. Steve read a memo that he was going to be transferred to a dead-end position that would prevent him from developing what would eventually become the NeXT. His resignation was completely voluntary.
Many biographers have repeated that Jobs wasn't fired. He was demoted and Jobs hated it. He left the company and found another one. Yes, scully was right but he waste all the money of the Apple II in way too many computers that weren't selling and left the company in debt. Movies and dopcumentaries doesn't mention it but it was the mediocre success of the NeXT that made Jobs mature and be less of an asshole. When he returned to Apple, everybody agreed that it wasn't the arrogant kid of the 80s.
Nokia was making a lot of money with Symbian and they keep selling it, look at where Nokia is now since back then they were still making Symbian's like phone where Apple and Samsung struggle with the touchscreen.
I love when he defends Woz. We saw through the entire movie the two interacting, aways disagreeing with each other, but despise all of it, Steve loves (and somehow protects) Woz as a brother, and hate the idea of people using him to reach their own objectives.
“But before that you sold carbonated sugar water right?” Idk why that line makes me laugh every time
One of the best scenes of ever seen in a movie. Michael Fassbender is a very underrated actor
@Wes Bradley-Taubner they were the only reasons I watched those, First Class is one of my favorites.
“I forced a vote that night because I believes I was right. I still believe I’m right. AND I’M RIGHT!!!
Brilliant piece of dialogue and acting by Fassbender
This is one of the greatest movies of the last ten or so years.
*What a great scene*
100 years
No. Not even the best movie about Apple or Jobs.
Quite possibly, I keep coming back to it
@@encycl07pedia- wrong look at the ratings
Amazing how he’s still somewhat like able for protecting Woz in this film.
Moving. Their friendship was a real one.
He only thought he was protecting Woz because of his narcissism. Woz was perfectly capable of protecting himself.
Yet referred to him as rain man...
He didn't want to protect woz.
He just saw the goose laying the golden eggs and wanted to put a fence around "for protection".
He protects him but won’t give him and his team the credit they deserve…
I like how he seems so confident and in control when he is in charge, but when faced with destruction by Steve he acts all scared. That's so great and awesome to see that fear in him.
Jeff Daniels from assured and in a position of absolute power, to shambles and pleading for mercy. A legend we don't get to see enough of because he's also busy with music and theatre.
...so he leaves Apple because he was convinced the Mac was overpriced, and then creates his own company and releases their first computer at a price of $12,000...
he didn't creat NeXT to get back to Apple. They invented that for the movie. Works for fiction but is just not real. The NeXT computers weren't a mega hit but had a very profitable niche within researchers and scientists. The World Wide Web and its tools and languages were created in a NeXT computer, for example. Apple bought NeXT because of its O.S which was very advanced and they wanted it for the Mac computers. of course, Jobs had other plans.
EGarrett01 yeah he's gonna get into a fit about iPhone x price and dongles
Well I learned something new
Alvin Flang yeah that apple without jobs will always fail
Aakash Jagad that's because Chinese companies aren't here selling cheaper smartphones that work just as well. Once that happens some of these brainless sycophants might switch if they can't tell difference
I never noticed before, but at 1:09, Steve tears up a little. What a movie.
I felt this movie deserves more recognition.
TheGreatGeekDetective absolutely
Got terribly overshadowed by Revenant
I saw this in theaters. Great movie. I did see revenant but not in theaters. Also very good
Not really. It was a poor movie.
“I bled that night, and I don’t bleed.”
Steve jobs is really superman
joshuel david who’s one and only weakness is pancreatic cancer.
@@jimmy2k4o Jesus .
Sounds more like a Superdouche
That's his large ego talking. Even a moment to humble him wasn't enough to change his self-aggrandizing idea of himself. Hell, the press helped him sustain that image.
Tell me...
Even the music is outstanding in this scene. Pure cinema.
Name of the music?
Ahmed Fadl Daniel Pemberton - Revenge
I’ve got the soundtrack on double vinyl, it’s amazing
"...you forced it. Even after I told you exactly what they'd do, which is exactly what they DID. Unanimously."
"I don't have any trouble remembering that John, because of it being the worst night of my life. And I forced the vote, because I believed I was right, I still believe I'm right, and I'M RIGHT!"
This exchange is just epic. Acting, writing...perfection. Gives me chills every time. Also love when Jobs curtly says "Got it" with that quick sidelong look before boring into Sculley again with his eyes.
This simple argument between two regular guys was as intense to me as the best fight scenes seen in action flicks.
You should watch court cases. Sometimes the greatest fights are between people using the power of speech to destroy one another. And I dont mean insulting, but persuading through arguments, each defending their position and undermining the other.
Steve actually was not at the meeting where he was voted out. He already knew he was going to be voted out, so he sent a form letter and didn't set foot on Apple's campus again until 1996.
Still defending Woz. That's friendship. It may not always be pretty, but when it truly counts, real friends stand up.
The issue is, woz was alot smarter than steve. So was he defending woz, or begging for them to not use him as a weapon knowing he steve would lose.
People call him an innovator but factually, he wasnt. Everything he made as its core was done by other people in different markets and places. He modified the perspectives and hardware to fit the average person. Woz had the ability to further technology but lacked the skills to push his ideas and visions and such. Apple is only successful because of Woz and Steve. But.... steve believed he is the reason for everything good to apple. And thats a bold faced lie. Steve was nothing without Woz.
Not talking about right or wrong, or credit or no credit.........Despite everything, they were friends.
The acting in this movie is incredible
I actually was brought to tears from this scene, not from sadness, but how well it was edited and directed and scored.
2:28 still gives me goosebumps no matter how many times I watch it
This film is a masterclass of personal interaction and just great acting craft. Couldn’t have been better cast and easily Kate Winslets best film.
Hmmmmm
😊
She's a treasure
That’s a lot of rain for California
Seems it never rains in California, but when it rains it pours.....
davidshead i dont think its rain, i think its a fountain
It's hobo urine.
before global warming
@@edzehoo Californian, can confirm
I keep coming to this and watching it over and over such a great movie.
same
I’m proud that I was one of the 20 people in the US who went to see this amazing film when it came out… there was maybe 5 other people in the whole theatre. SMH
I blame it on this coming out two years after the Ashton Kutcher one cause that left a bad taste in peoples mouths. If it had come out in maybe 2017 it probably would’ve done better.
Him defending Steve Wozniak is great
And he uses Steve's line "That's what men do."
@@jkta97 but at the same time he's condescending, calling him the rain man.
Hes such a good actor even his ears are acting at 2:27
How did you notice that??? 😂😂😂😂
Those ears deserve an Oscar
You just ruined this scene for me ahahahah
Fassbender is one of the GREATEST actors of all time
I love how Steve always wanted to protect Woz.
If he didn't liquidate his earlier Apple stocks. Steve Jobs would be the richest man in the world.
But it does look like doesn't matter how much money you have, you can't cheat death.
Allen Han what's liquidate??
It means to trade stock value into real value (currency).
Remember stock is not worth anything, it's fictional value, becomes it is a man-made concept. until it is traded in.
Stock value is more real than currency, because it is actual ownership of productive assets. Currency is just paper. That's why in times of inflation it's good to own stock. Stock is more volatile than currency though, I'll give you that.
If he didn't sell his stock he wouldn't have had the money to start NEXT, or invest in Pixar, and wouldn't have had his path back to Apple. He couldn't have kept his stock and made Apple successful again.
You forget his quote. Being the richest man doesn't matter to him. Sleeping with the thought that he has created something is more important to him
0:56 - 1:08 The build to the crescendo here is spine tingling!! Definitely Oscar worthy
As an American native I found Fassbender's accent extremely convincing. If I hadn't known he was German-Irish I would have assumed he was an American Actor with a strong Standard/Proper American accent. He sounds like Americans I know who are big in public speaking who emphasize pronunciation and also some engineers and scientists I have heard talk who almost sound like computers themselves. Both great acting choices. He doesn't look a lot like Jobs, but with that voice I think he captures the way Jobs' mind worked, at least as Sorkin interpreted it as a writer.
This was his best American accent, for sure. But I'm even more impressed by the tone of voice he's acting with which is drastically different from his own. Usually when actor's change it up that much, it is grating more than convincing.
He’s straight up Irish with where he was raised (Ireland). I always thought he had a German accent. Wrong. Lol
"I bled that night and i don't bleed"
Do you bleed
@@thabreez456 you don't?
No matter what you think of Steve Jobs him and Lee Iacocca will be remembered for taking two companies that were on life-support and making Them a success again. To the greatest business turnarounds ever. God does Apple miss Steve Jobs
It's criminal they cut the other 4 minutes of this scene.
Masterful scene
Just started my own company after years of designing. Super inspirational. Great stuff.
Aaron Sorking knocked it out of the park. Brilliant dialogues. I would watch this movie a hundred times
I'm not sure what part of this is the best. This scene is phenomenal from start to end.
I don’t know how more people don’t absolutely love this movie. Fasbender just murked this role
One of the best scenes ever made
I don’t know why, but I love the drama involved in ball breaking arguments/debates like this! And the music only adds to that astoundingly so!
“I bled that night, and I don’t bleed”
Really shows how hard that hit him
I can only imagine
Obviously he had it coming, and having lost the company, I’m sure it humbled him somewhat
But it’s still chilling
Sorkin read jobs' biography by isaacson and he creates this !
Everyone who has read it can imagine telling this story like this is remarkable
The voice the acting the rain the dark through the scenes it's perfect
Nobody does this kind of powerful people confrontational dialog better than Sorkin.
This movie is art. Feels like a stage show. Very theatrical!
I love the look in Michael’s eyes. Like “I want to tear your face off right now, but it’ll be more satisfying to let you lose your face publicly”
02:25 real friendship right there..at least at the movie for sure
Jeff Daniels should have gotten an Oscar nom for this movie, this is absolutely perfect!
"Artists lead and hacks ask for a show of hands"
Jobs describing himself
Do you want some advice Pepsi generation LOL one of the great lines ever
The way his ears wiggle is hilarious to me
This is going to be one of those movies that you look back on as criminally underrated.
This movie was really good, but it casts jobs as this genius who always knew what was best. His pride prevented him from moving on from the Macintosh, which forced Apple to have no alternative but to stick with the Apple II, rather than move on to a new product long ago. This movie may make it seem like Jobs saved Apple, and he did, but only after he brought it to the brink of destruction first.
Michael Fassbender just looks like Michael Fassbender in this movie, yet his performance is so much better than Ashton Kutcher’s, who looked just like Steve Jobs
Jobs was a very complicated man. He didn't tell Steve Wozniak that there was a bonus for completing work on a chipset early in their partnership and kept the bonus for himself, when Wozniak did the work within the contracted schedule. A movie usually plays fast and loose with biographies and real life is more contradictory. Jobs (like most people) can be a mixture of both great and flawed. He could be irreplaceable and problematic. A visionary and someone who failed to grasp the realities of a rapidly shifting industry. A movie will have to decide on an approach and then out of necessity shape characters and events to make that approach work as a dramatic movie. If a movie doesn't do that then it may be more accurate, but it won't function properly as a drama.
"But times done it's thing", I felt that... Never in my life have I ever seen an intense argument.
The rain at night and the conference room looked really good !
This whole movie is awesome
Love how the rain picks up when he gets angry
1:16 if this movie was PG-13, this would be the perfect use of their one F word
This cast is amazing. Every role played to absolute perfection.
“You’re insubordinate, you make people miserable” OUCH.
“And I forced the vote, because I believed I was right. I still believe I was right, and I’m RIGHT”
goddamn Fassbender
For some reason, I see the rivalry between Steve Jobs and John Sculley similar to the conflict between Tony Stark and Obediah Stane.
1987AnimeBoy Very observant.
(sighs) no, its nowhere near similar. John Sculley never tried to kill or even ruin Steve Jobs reputation. Yes, Obediah Stane and Tony Stark worked together, and is in THAT way similar to steve jobs and john sculley, but then again, its also similar to my boss and me, and your boss and you. John Sculley never wanted to be rivals with steve, but obediah just thought "yeah, this guy p***es me off, i'll kill him"
Tony Stark and Steve Rogers
And Tony Stark is an actuakl scientific genius. Steve Jobs was an empty Shell. No abilities, no tech savvy. Only promises, no results.
1987AnimeBoy except this actually happened and that is pure fictional.
“But before that you sold carbonated sugar water right?” ... ooooof
This background music blows my mind everytime.
"I bled that night...and I don't bleed..."
Coming from just about anyone else, it sounds a little overly dramatic. Coming from Steve Jobs, it sounds like a judgement from God on the great white throne...
I love seeing Michael Fassbender acting angry.
Song - Revenge Daniel pemberton
That's a fitting title
Just came back to watch this part again
The editing, the music, the acting…..This is the best scene in the whole movie, and I love the whole movie!!
Steve calling John Pepsi Generation kills me
I am not a movie specialist, I am a general a normal movie lover.
However there are some movies which dialogues are like magnets: like in this one, no special effects, ma all the dialogues contents, speed, Q&As are magnets for my mind, i am addicted to some scenes especially the one where this song plays.
I then wanted to understand why i liked alot this movie, and thanks to this movie i discovered what a screenplay is: i discovered that it was done by Aaron Sorkin, looked at his page and i have seen that he did the screenplay for other 2 movies of which i love dialogues (The Social Network and A Few Good Men) and i connected the dots...
BTW, great the actors too, and the music growing drama!
The setback was probably good for Jobs, he had to learn from his mistakes, but he stuck to his vision.
My man got voted out of his own company
Steve Jobs made mistakes just like everybody else. Just because he was so confident in interviews and introduction nights doesn't mean he's genius. He wasn't always right !
he was more right than wrong
What makes people geniuses is learning from what they did wrong. A genius never ever gets everything right.
@@ElVlogdeBob huh?what do u mean? The way he treated his first heir is "more right"?
And you're right!
And the things he was right about FAR outweigh those he wasnt. Steve brought a focus on quality back to Apple. He meant, when he said " Artists lead and hacks ask for a show of hands", that "Artists" were the engineers, and the "Hacks" were the Board and Executives. He was right. Look at Boeing. They started putting the emphasis and power on The Marketing Team and the Board. And the world got the 737 Max debacle.
Sorkin with the script but god damn Fassbender, Daniels, Winslet, Rogen brought this movie to life
“You’re gonna end me aren’t you?”
Aaron sorkins screenwriting is amazing
Best scene ever in Hollywood history
Aw sounds like he still cared for woz even when they had difficulties. "cause thats what real men do" love the script
Yeah, I'm sure all parasites care that their host organism doesn't die off.
@thereign well said
I could be wrong but I don't think you ever even see an Apple II in this movie. Maybe Boyle thought the sight of that beige dinosaur would deflate the drama somewhat.
"I'm the evidence"
when magneto is out of control
Yeah. Erik being deadly composed. Lol
This scene is outstanding compared with Jobs 2013
Came to this video after news of Sam Altman being ousted
STEVE JOBS SPEED RUN GO GO GO
No gunshots, no car chases, no explosions -- just people talking. Amazing!
With great music, great editing, and great cinematography. Just people talking is what M. Night Shyamalan and sometimes Tarantino does.
Years later he came back and rocks
I love this scene, such a great film
1:16 I love how they just look at Steve like "Really? You think you're gonna win?". Their faces before looked reluctant, still deciding on if to side with Sculley or Steve (You can see their heads before the decision flipping between both sides, almost as if their thinking about who to side with) but once Jobs said that, they immediately knew what to do.
Basically, I really like this scene