@@Senate300what’s funny is he spends the entire episode worried that Pacey and Joey are secretly hooking up in his bedroom, and then is immediately relieved to see it’s just Jen. He doesn’t even realize the bigger issue is that Joey was clearly jealous of Jen, which means his prior concerns were valid lol.
They were lol, they had lots of scenes together showing how close they were. Even her last talking scene in the hospital was with Pacey. She told everyone else she was fine and not scared but broke down to Pacey at the end. He was probably her closest friend after Jack
@@donnamacauley4080 💯, they both were the fuck ups on the show n thought that everyone believed that about them so they marched to the beat of their own drum, they understood each other very well thru a bond of being the screw ups
Joey was always into pacey honestly thought she was more into pacey then Dawson and plus they were soulmates I’m glad pacey and Joey got together in the end
Whoops. And I love Joey's reaction. Why does it bother her so much?? Shes starting to fall for Pacey and she doesnt even know it. Pacey and Joey is one of the best romances on TV. And I love the end of this episode. Joey comes back to him with forgiveness and understanding.
Jen was amazing & got screwed over on repeat on DC. Every boy she cared about, except Henry, preferred Joey. Henry chased Jen for a year & when she finally let herself fall for him, he dumped her. She hardly had any happy moments & when she was happy with her daughter, they killed her. Just wrong.
Wendy Dawson Henry was also needy and deranged and possibly the worst of all boyfriends on this show, but yeah poor Jen never had a good relationship. This show had no idea what to do with her character, such a shame
Kate Lattey right. Joey was a moody, self righteous, pain in the arse, most of the time. Jen was always kind, a great friend & constantly rejected. Thank God she had Jack & Grams.
CJ never cared about Joey at all, so at least that was one. Although he did reject her at the beginning because he was into Audrey. But even that was corrected because he realized later that he did want Jen and even regretted being with Audrey because of it.
Jen was a much better character than Joey. It's ridiculous how every single guy on the show went all gaga for Joey, as there was nothing about her that was really all that great. The writers just made her out to be a Mary Sue without anything really to back it up - in reality, Joey was whiny, judgmental, and high maintenance without really being worth it in any way. Jen did not judge people and just wanted to be cared for. She was even a great friend to Joey despite Joey initially treating her like dirt.
Wendy Dawson i also felt bad for Jen I realized she in this season and behind has matured and grown up if you seen and heard her in s1 she had a bad past and Billy also was bad her first boyfriend but she came to capeside her mom bought her to grams and definitely has Jack to I feel bad for her most boys did use her it’s what you allow.
I didn't like how sudden Pacey's attraction to Joey was or hers to him, but they executed it very well. I couldn't stand Dawson from the beginning and always fast forwarded or muted his scenes and only watched for Pacey and Joey so I'm glad they're the ones who ended up together in the end.
Yes pacey has always been the better man and when Dawson almost hurt Pacey in the boat race I lost so much respect for Dawson so glad to Joey and Pacey got together that is real love.
Pacey had been attracted to Joey since S1. He made a move on her and she freaked out. I think he always liked her but had to keep her at a distance because of Dawson. And their constant bickering was an early sign of attraction that neither of them knew how to deal with or comprehend so they mistook it for simple dislike. The seeds of Pacey and Joey were sewn quite early on imo.
I hated Dawson I really didn’t like him the whole series and the way he treated pacey a lot made me hate him more pacey is better then Dawson ever will be and he seemed to respect Joey more then Dawson ever did like after he found out about them he wanted her to stay with him even though he knew she wanted to be with pacey it was always what Dawson wanted he didn’t care about what pacey and Joey wanted
People. Tell me this. Am I the only one who felt Dawson should've saw Pacey & Joey coming from this moment? From Pacey waxing lyrical about Joey being a goddess and then that jealous little monogamy tirade Joey had after she and Dawson walked in on him and Jen together. Less severe than the jealousy Joey had of Dawson and Jen when they were an item. Shows the depth of Dawson's self absorption really. Another question. From this episode alone, did anyone notice the differences in how men treated Jen & Joey?
no, dawson most likely felt if they started dated they tell him, like freinds should but no pacey telling him to give joey space go after kate why at the same time he was going after joey that why dawson felt like it was a betrayal.
@@az21bob666 This much I'll give you. The truth should've came from Joey and Pacey instead of mistakenly by Jen. Which Pacey was gonna do before Joey stopped him but by then it was too little too late. But here Dawson really failed to read the room. Twice.
a few thing pacey and joey SAY they act normal when anyone around, two, pacey teling dawon to give joey space why at the same time like her and dating her to me is a huge betral, if pacey was upfront like i have feeling for joey so i cant give you advice as i going to ask her out then there no trick. but i also felt they had dawson in bad place whne he found out, and they had to make him the bad guy for fans, but they went to far in making dawosn the bad guy.
I actually have this on DVD before I had Netflix I've had it for years I always love Dawson's Creek and I used to love Dawson but the older I got I realized I like pacey best he always put others first and I realized how whiny and selfish Dawson was the older I got
Jen screwed herself over in the earlier seasons by sleeping with all those dudes and being with everyone but i felt sorry for her when she died she just needed help
Yes I felt bad for Jen she also has it hard at times from being rebellious in New York and her parents sent her to live with grams but that was the best thing to ever happen to her so she am sure was hurt by that from her parents but she grew she did well yes the worst boyfriend was Henry he was so obsessed and crazy for her and ended up going to football camp and dumped her like that that’s really low but so besides that and her bad influence friend Abby passing away she had IY better then being in New York she manages to be strong no matter what she went through grams was always by her side even they had disagreements.
Jen didn't screw herself over. She made bad choices all teenagers do at some point and some more than others. But they also make some good ones too. Moving in with her Grams taught her a lot, she was listening to, valued and loved. She was taught well and she eventually made some great friends. Neither of her parents really wanted her which caused her to be rebellious and act out. She went searching for love in all the wrong areas. In the end she may not have found romantic love but she found every other kind of love that matters. And she made an impact on everyone's life as well.
witchyworldtraveller , well what I mean by her screwing herself over, everyone wanted to blame Joey for all the stuff Jen did to others and also herself and eventually had tragic ending living with her grams I admit did help a lot but not enough for to live more differently then when she was in New York , because at the end of the day she still was sleeping around and “looking for love in all the wrong areas” it’s kinda the same thing she was doing in New York, so though the change was minor there was definitely an impact
@@nitainthesteam7221 Her life with Grams was a completely 180 compared to what she had New York. If you've listened to any of her earlier conversations on the series or even when her mother comes to visit you would have seen this. Yes she was still having hookups but it was never like it was New York there was so much more going on drinking and partying ect which she didn't do a lot after Abby's death. Even before she had changed quite a bit. She was never able to find that kind of love that Pacey and Joey have and I think deep down she wanted that but for the longest time I don't think she deemed herself work worthy of it. Hence her video message to Amy the last episode.
witchyworldtraveller , like I said the change was minor but definitely had an impact ,it was just sad how tragic her ending came and that she never really new the value of happiness like she wanted but you do have points it’s just my opinion ,have a good night 💤
Unpopular opinion but I thought he was better with Andy!! They were cute together! She brought out the best in him. Joey and him fought to much. She should have ended up with Dawson. They were soulmates.
I partially agree with you. If they did not pursue the Pacey and Joey storyline, I would have wanted him to be with Andy. She helped him. I think Joey has enabled him, as well, but Joey was not about to babysit Pacey either (meaning she will help him, but he's got to do the work, too). I also think the reason they fought a lot was b/c of Joey and Dawson’s relationship. Dawson always appeared to be the problem of their relationship (Pacey still feeling he has to compete). That's like when Dawson was dating Jen (Joey was the problem in their relationship). They may have been ”soulmates,” but I honestly don't think they would have lasted if they got together. I think they were basing their ”soulmate” relationship because They were childhood friends. Even like in S1, Joey said something along the lines of nothing is changing; he (Dawson) is still stuck on the childhood. Even he's said he wants to go back to how things used to be. They would've never worked out.
Yes. Andie was the best thing that happened to Pacey. She brought out the best in him, and he did not feel insecure and he was so much in love with her but there was no chance foe them when Andie cheating him. With Joey, he put her on a pedestal and he felt insecure and inferior.. Joey did not bring out the best in him but i guess , she was his true love, always putting her happiness before everything else. Joey is one lucky girl.
Lol Joey is so jealous and she doesn’t even realize it.
Ain't it the truth? I'm surprised Dawson didn't pick up on it looking back since he supposed to know first hand what Joeys like when jealous.
Yea!!!
Dawson was completely oblivious to anything that wasn't about him, so I'm not surprised he didn't notice Joey's jealous reaction.
@@lilmama121 Dawson literally made everything about himself. I hate him.
@@Senate300what’s funny is he spends the entire episode worried that Pacey and Joey are secretly hooking up in his bedroom, and then is immediately relieved to see it’s just Jen. He doesn’t even realize the bigger issue is that Joey was clearly jealous of Jen, which means his prior concerns were valid lol.
I was just happy to see her finally fight for Pacey.
Pacey and Jen had the best character arc in the show.
Pacey has gorgeous intense eyes
Totally his best feature.
And his smile 🥰
@@RJKookie Yeah he has a great smile !!!!!
Pacey and jen could have been very good friends. Both had this "bad guy" image, but both were actually very sweet from inside.
They where very good friends
They were lol, they had lots of scenes together showing how close they were. Even her last talking scene in the hospital was with Pacey. She told everyone else she was fine and not scared but broke down to Pacey at the end. He was probably her closest friend after Jack
@@donnamacauley4080 💯, they both were the fuck ups on the show n thought that everyone believed that about them so they marched to the beat of their own drum, they understood each other very well thru a bond of being the screw ups
"They lost me at Nothing" 😆😆
He named the boat after YOU Joey but she doesn’t know that YET!!!!!!!
I love the way Pacey says "Joey" when Jen made the girl Friday comment. He's just so damn cute.
JJ Jones so verrry cute! 🤗😍
Joey was always into pacey honestly thought she was more into pacey then Dawson and plus they were soulmates I’m glad pacey and Joey got together in the end
Jen is so cuteeeeee.i didnt realise that while watching the show..
Omg she is like an angel.
It was so funny to see Joey jealous for the first time WITH PACEY a few episodes later it’s Pacey who is jealous of Joey being with Dawson!!!!!!!!!
When Joey was still Dawson-influenced uptight.
She was so much better with Pacey.
Jen and Pacey were a bad idea. There was zero chemistry
MsMilano true they were the typical friends with benefits they already made that pretty clear definitely they wouldn’t work out anyway.
She wasn't just uptight, she was jealous.
Yeah and josh complained to the network about that arc with Pacey and Jen as well.
Whoops. And I love Joey's reaction. Why does it bother her so much?? Shes starting to fall for Pacey and she doesnt even know it.
Pacey and Joey is one of the best romances on TV. And I love the end of this episode. Joey comes back to him with forgiveness and understanding.
I love this scene as well as Joey and Pacey! Their too good together
Jen was amazing & got screwed over on repeat on DC. Every boy she cared about, except Henry, preferred Joey. Henry chased Jen for a year & when she finally let herself fall for him, he dumped her. She hardly had any happy moments & when she was happy with her daughter, they killed her. Just wrong.
Wendy Dawson Henry was also needy and deranged and possibly the worst of all boyfriends on this show, but yeah poor Jen never had a good relationship. This show had no idea what to do with her character, such a shame
Kate Lattey right. Joey was a moody, self righteous, pain in the arse, most of the time. Jen was always kind, a great friend & constantly rejected. Thank God she had Jack & Grams.
CJ never cared about Joey at all, so at least that was one. Although he did reject her at the beginning because he was into Audrey. But even that was corrected because he realized later that he did want Jen and even regretted being with Audrey because of it.
Jen was a much better character than Joey. It's ridiculous how every single guy on the show went all gaga for Joey, as there was nothing about her that was really all that great. The writers just made her out to be a Mary Sue without anything really to back it up - in reality, Joey was whiny, judgmental, and high maintenance without really being worth it in any way. Jen did not judge people and just wanted to be cared for. She was even a great friend to Joey despite Joey initially treating her like dirt.
Wendy Dawson i also felt bad for Jen I realized she in this season and behind has matured and grown up if you seen and heard her in s1 she had a bad past and Billy also was bad her first boyfriend but she came to capeside her mom bought her to grams and definitely has Jack to I feel bad for her most boys did use her it’s what you allow.
Great episode and definitely tells me Joey was also falling for Pacey took time.
Aw, Joey Potter, one of my earliest tv crushes
Same my dude ,
Same
“They lost me at nothing” Bitch I died 😂😂
I didn't like how sudden Pacey's attraction to Joey was or hers to him, but they executed it very well. I couldn't stand Dawson from the beginning and always fast forwarded or muted his scenes and only watched for Pacey and Joey so I'm glad they're the ones who ended up together in the end.
Elaina Gilbert so glad I’m not the only one, Dawson annoyed me so much
Ikr. I always did the same thing cuz he's soooooo annoying
Yes pacey has always been the better man and when Dawson almost hurt Pacey in the boat race I lost so much respect for Dawson so glad to Joey and Pacey got together that is real love.
Pacey had been attracted to Joey since S1. He made a move on her and she freaked out. I think he always liked her but had to keep her at a distance because of Dawson. And their constant bickering was an early sign of attraction that neither of them knew how to deal with or comprehend so they mistook it for simple dislike. The seeds of Pacey and Joey were sewn quite early on imo.
I hated Dawson I really didn’t like him the whole series and the way he treated pacey a lot made me hate him more pacey is better then Dawson ever will be and he seemed to respect Joey more then Dawson ever did like after he found out about them he wanted her to stay with him even though he knew she wanted to be with pacey it was always what Dawson wanted he didn’t care about what pacey and Joey wanted
It was Pacey's best looking episode :D
Joey likes Pacey. Jealous
Thanks so much for putting this up
soapsgirl17 Hey! I think I know you! Hahahaha! You’re welcome 🤗
welcome. I think I know you too. LOL
soapsgirl17 😂😂😂😜😜😜
I think soap girl 17 cool and PaceandJoe true love should bff's
I never wanted them together any ways
Pacey us just comforting I can't handle it. They lost me at nothing. Lol . Why does Joey care .? Whoops jealous much ??
People. Tell me this. Am I the only one who felt Dawson should've saw Pacey & Joey coming from this moment? From Pacey waxing lyrical about Joey being a goddess and then that jealous little monogamy tirade Joey had after she and Dawson walked in on him and Jen together. Less severe than the jealousy Joey had of Dawson and Jen when they were an item. Shows the depth of Dawson's self absorption really. Another question. From this episode alone, did anyone notice the differences in how men treated Jen & Joey?
no, dawson most likely felt if they started dated they tell him, like freinds should
but no pacey telling him to give joey space go after kate why at the same time he was going after joey that why dawson felt like it was a betrayal.
@@az21bob666 This much I'll give you. The truth should've came from Joey and Pacey instead of mistakenly by Jen. Which Pacey was gonna do before Joey stopped him but by then it was too little too late. But here Dawson really failed to read the room. Twice.
a few thing pacey and joey SAY they act normal when anyone around,
two, pacey teling dawon to give joey space why at the same time like her and dating her to me is a huge betral,
if pacey was upfront like i have feeling for joey so i cant give you advice as i going to ask her out then there no trick.
but i also felt they had dawson in bad place whne he found out, and they had to make him the bad guy for fans, but they went to far in making dawosn the bad guy.
@@az21bob666 I never considered anyone a hero or a villain. Just lovable yet flawed characters on a journey. Be it together or apart.
God I need this in DVD.
its on hulu
@@CEBRINSON01
Thanks
Its also on Amazon prime x
Netflix
I actually have this on DVD before I had Netflix I've had it for years I always love Dawson's Creek and I used to love Dawson but the older I got I realized I like pacey best he always put others first and I realized how whiny and selfish Dawson was the older I got
Pacey & Jen would have been terrible glad it didn’t happen
*Joey celosa (no sé inglés pero recuerdo cuando ví esto en español)*
1:13 dawson is soo relieved haha
Jen screwed herself over in the earlier seasons by sleeping with all those dudes and being with everyone but i felt sorry for her when she died she just needed help
Yes I felt bad for Jen she also has it hard at times from being rebellious in New York and her parents sent her to live with grams but that was the best thing to ever happen to her so she am sure was hurt by that from her parents but she grew she did well yes the worst boyfriend was Henry he was so obsessed and crazy for her and ended up going to football camp and dumped her like that that’s really low but so besides that and her bad influence friend Abby passing away she had IY better then being in New York she manages to be strong no matter what she went through grams was always by her side even they had disagreements.
Jen didn't screw herself over. She made bad choices all teenagers do at some point and some more than others. But they also make some good ones too. Moving in with her Grams taught her a lot, she was listening to, valued and loved. She was taught well and she eventually made some great friends. Neither of her parents really wanted her which caused her to be rebellious and act out. She went searching for love in all the wrong areas. In the end she may not have found romantic love but she found every other kind of love that matters. And she made an impact on everyone's life as well.
witchyworldtraveller , well what I mean by her screwing herself over, everyone wanted to blame Joey for all the stuff Jen did to others and also herself and eventually had tragic ending living with her grams I admit did help a lot but not enough for to live more differently then when she was in New York , because at the end of the day she still was sleeping around and “looking for love in all the wrong areas” it’s kinda the same thing she was doing in New York, so though the change was minor there was definitely an impact
@@nitainthesteam7221 Her life with Grams was a completely 180 compared to what she had New York. If you've listened to any of her earlier conversations on the series or even when her mother comes to visit you would have seen this. Yes she was still having hookups but it was never like it was New York there was so much more going on drinking and partying ect which she didn't do a lot after Abby's death. Even before she had changed quite a bit. She was never able to find that kind of love that Pacey and Joey have and I think deep down she wanted that but for the longest time I don't think she deemed herself work worthy of it. Hence her video message to Amy the last episode.
witchyworldtraveller , like I said the change was minor but definitely had an impact ,it was just sad how tragic her ending came and that she never really new the value of happiness like she wanted but you do have points it’s just my opinion ,have a good night 💤
“Scratching posts”? The phrase “friends with benefits” was around then 😅
Why was Joey so angry in this scene?
cuz she’s jealous so it equals anger plus she seems to always have a short temper
I don't remember this!
What did he say? At the same time what?
Ep?
Four To Tango, Ep9 S3
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Wat episode is this from
House of Matrix S3 Episode 9
PaceandJoe TrueLove Thank you so much
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Unpopular opinion but I thought he was better with Andy!! They were cute together! She brought out the best in him. Joey and him fought to much. She should have ended up with Dawson. They were soulmates.
I partially agree with you. If they did not pursue the Pacey and Joey storyline, I would have wanted him to be with Andy. She helped him. I think Joey has enabled him, as well, but Joey was not about to babysit Pacey either (meaning she will help him, but he's got to do the work, too). I also think the reason they fought a lot was b/c of Joey and Dawson’s relationship. Dawson always appeared to be the problem of their relationship (Pacey still feeling he has to compete). That's like when Dawson was dating Jen (Joey was the problem in their relationship). They may have been ”soulmates,” but I honestly don't think they would have lasted if they got together. I think they were basing their ”soulmate” relationship because They were childhood friends. Even like in S1, Joey said something along the lines of nothing is changing; he (Dawson) is still stuck on the childhood. Even he's said he wants to go back to how things used to be. They would've never worked out.
Dawson grow up the most in the show. In many ways he was the most mature of the group
@@az21bob666 yes, he changed a lot. He was very immature in the first few seasons making him childish and self centered.
Yes. Andie was the best thing that happened to Pacey. She brought out the best in him, and he did not feel insecure and he was so much in love with her but there was no chance foe them when Andie cheating him. With Joey, he put her on a pedestal and he felt insecure and inferior.. Joey did not bring out the best in him but i guess , she was his true love, always putting her happiness before everything else. Joey is one lucky girl.
dawson did grow up, pacey did not that was my point.
I really dont like Jen, she pisses me off, the stuff she does is petty and immature.
THANK YOU! Couldnt stand that hussy
@@kennyp1477 literally the nicest💀