228. Portugal: The Golden Age of Discovery
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2022
- In the second episode of this Portugal mini-series, Tom and Dominic discuss the Portuguese setting sail for far flung reaches of the world, their relationship with Philip II of Spain, and the impact of Vasco da Gama.
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This is the history class I longed for in college. Had it been presented this way it would have impacted so many life choices...career, travel, romance....
I wonder if they'll ever make an episode on Prester John.
'36:20' Perhaps the elephant was named after Hanno 'the Navigator'? According to a Greek Manuscript called 'the Periplus' in the 5th century BC this Hanno led a Carthaginian fleet down the coast of Africa as far, perhaps, as Senegal, meeting: "hostile, hirsute men named 'Gorillas'. Three of them are killed, their skins brought home to Carthage. Having run out of provisions, they do not sail further"
I believe the Pope named it after the elephant's the Carthiginians brought. Unfortunately it had a poor diet and died soon. The Rhinoceros drowned and was stuffed later too. Poor animals.
You guys should read a thing or two about the battles of Chaúl and Diu (1508/9)... :P
Laurenço Almeida's fidalgo sensibilities made him adopt stupid tactics but it could have worked. His dad went a bit mad then.
Your introduction made me subscribe your channel 😅
Carrack is a huge caravel with several decks (up to 4 decks) that allows to put 4lines of cannons on each side
In 1509, 17 portuguese ships destroyed 217 Otomano, venician an mamelucs Alliance in the battle of Diu
@@alexandreoliveira5451Francisco Almeida then went a bit berserk on Prisoners of War.
I can give some sort of light into the matter, knowingly that I am Portuguese.
So like I have commented before in the Columbus rampage story path here, The King of Portugal actually never did turn down Columbus, but made that trick of sending him with a sort of body of company to the Spanish king in order for the Spanish king to pay for the journey in a double edged sword. Now, Portugal was invaded by several nations before it actually became Portugal and then was invaded by the Arabs. Here, there are 3 points of connection that are very important to the shared “Balls” of the Portuguese. The Romans, The Arabs and The Nordics. In the middle we have the full combinations of the gems, which are the Templar's. So Portugal already had the foundations, to know about other continents, prior to their massive journeys. From the Romans they gather a lot of information and knowledge about building foundations in other countries and Colonies. From the Arabs, they gather all the tecnologie and surviving skills. From the Nordic people the foundation of the conquest of other continents by a great shadow of brutality. From the Templar they gather a significant knowledge about expansion, and maps, and cartography and skill.
However most of the journeys were elaborated by the share compensation of transporting convicts into the world. So their fleets were mostly convicts that were about to be hanged, but got pardons by priests if they got on to the fleets and traveled the world. For the King of Portugal it was a gamble yes, but, if they got lost or died… They were mostly of little importance. However, the key part here, is that most of the convicts at that time, were self reliant, or knew how to fight, or either they knew how to “Steal”. Basically expendables that were already trained.
To the Arab people, Portugal had a deep resentment after the shared brutality and arrogance they had left in the country, but there is also another key factor, that the Muslim community was actually growing around the key parts of the city of Lisbon. In this way, that was sort of a migration path going on that did not fit well with the ideologies of the country. Knowingly the factor of trading with money. This is actually what it comes down to, resentment and the factor of money trading in the eyes of God. The actual first banks created were actually from Muslim and Jews, because those were religions that in the eyes of god could exchange currency. Portugal was bound to the Pope, so the only bank that actually could trade was the Pope, and be praised by God. That is also the reason that the Dutch kind of expanded. And also the impact of greed in the Portuguese crown. So the dutch had better systems to prevail in the expansion, one of them is the key factor of Jewish people in the country, meddling with the affairs of banking, but not only that, the insurance. So the dutch had a better system of currency floating and retaining money, and they had insurances made for their fleets. Which somehow it became a fashion. A lot of other countries also started to take up insurance for their fleets to the dutch. Nevertheless, this created a new standard of navigation. Now the navigators were starting to be, not convicts but better organized men, and with a better knowledge of trade into currency and so on.
Now, S. Sebastian or the young king, he did not die in Ceuta, but he was imprisoned by the Arab people for years until he was actually released, there is a sense of speculation that the Spanish king did knew about it, but he keep it in secret, however in the following years, the Arabs did released him and a highly decorated commander, which they both did cross the sea into Europe, and arrived at town/ Village in Spain. That's when the King of Spain got the news, because Sebastian kept shouting out he was the king of Portugal to everyone in town/ village, still believing that because he was born a king, he would be praised by any king, so he got killed. The king of Spain killed Sebastian, and then overturned the Portuguese Crown.
Now the butcher Portuguese made me laugh a lot. However, all the remarks made about our language were correct. The Spanish people actually do not understand what we say, be we do, what they say. Love the podcast.
that is wonderful make-believe history and Portuguese specialise in that for sure!!
Columbus was a Spaniard born in Asuturias, Spain and they only thing Portugal was good at was ridding Spain's coat-tails and having troll armies to constantly lie and invent their history on youtube - good job!!!
In summation, Spain🇪🇸 - starts the age of discovery and colonial empires.
Portugal? A corrupt entity with no jobs, no future and no hope!
No small wonder why nobody likes this poverty ridden no man's land😁
p.s.
please get a real job and stop b.s.ing people on RUclips; much appreciated 😘
Roger Crowley's Conquerors: How Portugal Forged the First Global Empire (2015) is one I read this year (2023) thanks to a buddy of mine and honestly I was flabbergasted by how violent the Portuguese were. So much bloodshed, mostly unjustified. It reminds me a bit of the Russian conquest of Central Asia where the reports you get is that entire male populations of cities were wiped out but they also freed a couple hundred slaves (In India the Portuguese certainly did not free slaves but they did make the female population acquire some rights.). Spain arguably was worse in that they depopulated two continents but they did not know so fair enough.
Good stuff, a bit less banter though chaps