hey dude I've been waiting for your review on those machines but in the meantime I bought myself a sol terra :D with a few points you are absolutely right.. I wouldnt buy one if I already had a hawk pen or sol nova cuz I dont think there is much of a difference between them. I bought the sol terra maybe 2 months ago & havent worked with another machine since then
That comment is very true u have 4 cheyenne machines they are so fucking good machines… yes just machines but they heal wow … they dont be a pain on clients …
Thanx for your great videos..I can highly recommend the new Bishop Wand.I have the packer with 4,2 mm stroke..It is very similar to the Sol Nova but i like it a bit more so far...I think the Bishop puts in lines better..I am tattooing since 21 years and prefer to have fast running machines because i work pretty fast and the Bishop ist perfect for my work style..Sorry for my weird english but i am from germany
@ZnickerZ Art Also ich bin sehr zufrieden damit...Habe alle möglichen Pens von Hawk über Xion bis Swashdrive Brush probiert,finde sie alle ganz gut aber der Bishop Wand Packer schlägt sie alle..Zumindest für meine Art zu arbeiten..Ich brauche halt ne Maschine die schnell dicke Linien und Farben rein macht..
@@carlosito2502 Hey!... I read in previous posts that you had tried the Swashdrive Brush ... in your opinion what is the difference between the Nova Nova, Brush and Wand? I have been considering the Brush for a while, but I would like to have an opinion of someone who has used these machines. I currently use the Xion
Marco Cornejo Hey,the brush is really nice but i like the Wand Packer more than all other pens. Especially when it comes to color packing the wand is way stronger than the brush..and compared to the sol nova the wand is way punchier for lining,it lines way faster
Wow Carsten i ordered the wand liner yesterday so am fan and admire the cheyenne products lets see!!! I have 2 thunders one hawk pen and the Spirit maybe i will remplace the Spirit for the sol luna 🌝
I have both the sol nova and sol terra. I liked the xion but prefer the sol nova. I didn't like the edge x at all. I'm finding I use the sol nova way more than the sol terra because it handles fine lines and shading better imo. But for color packing with 20+ curved mags I find the sol terra really excels. And I think it handles larger liners better. I don't notice a big difference in feel myself as I'm tattooing but my clients tell me it hurts less and heals faster. Which are both great. I am able to use an Fk ergo click grip and the disposable click grips along with the darklabs vise nut without any problem. I actually put a video up for Anjris Straume after he mentioned not being able to use his as well. It does make more noise than a cheyenne grip but it runs just fine. No interference with the drive bar, holds tight, etc.
Dan Trueblood thanks for the input man! I knew there would be folks out there who did notice a difference but unfortunately on my end it wasn’t any significant change. Great machines regardless
my clients also tell me that the sol terra in sensi drive mode hurts much less & the tattoos heal faster. that's great & I really like the machine. I bought the cheyenne grip cuz I heard that the fk irons grip doesnt work :(
MambusBambus I bought the vice nut straight from darklabs. I dunno if that makes any difference. Maybe getting the latest one. But I use the ergo click grip every day on the sol terra. And the disposable click grips work fine as well. I just prefer the feel of the Fk grip and it holds its position better than the cheyenne grip. Enough of a twist and the cheyenne grip will click out of place. Plus I just hate that round boring grip design. I use the disposable grips on the sol nova for the same reason. It's just more ergonomic to me. Sadly it looks like the new grips cheyenne is releasing soon are the same ole shape with just bigger options.
@@1Dantrn that sounds great man thanks for the advice. I personally also like the rpg click better.. maybe I'll buy the screw and check out if it works. thanks dude
I agree it does feel like the sol terra has the same motor as the sol nova, that .5 in the stroke lenght does make a diference to me, I think I like shading a lot more with the sol nova than the sol terra, I also feel the sol terra a bit stronger, maybe it Just need less voltage than the sol nova to run, the thing I dont understand about your review is the "sensi drive mode". I bought the sol terra just because I like what a coil machine does when it comes to lines, and I wanted to se if the sol terra's sensi drive would do something similar. For me lining with the sol nova VS the sol terra in sensi drive is COMPLETELY diferent, it does feel like a coil to me, the needle stays more in contact to the skin while on sensi drive or something. This could turn into an intenze phisics talk if we go to deep into that, but there is definately a big diference if you line with a sol nova and a sol terra in sensi drive. I do everything, tradicional, realism, color realism, geométric, dotwork etc... I will always use the sol terra in sensi drive when I need to do lines thats for sure. I bought the gorilla grip from fk and the adaptor from fk, and yes Its crap, Im trying a tatsoul adaptor and if it doesnt work I'll just use a cheyenne grip. My recomendation is if you dont do a lot of lines dont buy the sol terra.
wayak psy it’s awesome that it’s working for you!! I know there are people out there who that feature (in Canada it’s been marketed as reactive mode) will make a difference for I just found for my work it made no tangible difference. I also thought the same about the power level but I didn’t add that into the review because I think there’s a chance that the Sol Nova motor has slowed down since purchasing it and it would be false to compare speed unless I had both brand new machines in front of me. It is the same motor though I think the 4mm just gives it a more solid punch. Thanks for the input always good to have a few knowledgeable comments in the mix, I appreciate it!
@@anthonyjenkins3335 I agree with all of this…I have the sol terra I use for lining and love it for that, but for soft shading it’s not the machine…my sol nova has lost power since I’ve got it as well and I sent it in to US repair service and still have not received an email, call or text that they are going to work on it…this was 2 1/2weeks ago-does anyone have a phone number for Cheyenne repair service centers? It was nice to read something I agreed 100% with I’m regards to my Cheyenne machines, please contact me I’d like to discuss these machines further -Deborah
Hey Anthony, thanks for inspiring works & great reviews! I consider buying a Bishop WAND machine and really wanted to hear what you think of it.. Did you try it? Cheers!
I have ch pen, spirit, solnova, sol luna. And actually have to say i prefer work with pen and spirit. The type of direct drive motors in those machines i think works betters for me. Sometimes i like that small give in new machines, sometimes not. Direct drive i think give me more control how i go to the skin and saturate faster. What u think?
I really appreciate your hones review! I am looking to learn to tattoo and would love a suggestion for a beginner trying to do research. I am a detailed artist looking to work with both color and shading. I tend to lean towards a pen but would love a suggestion for what to purchase as my first machine.
Hey man just wondering if you’ve ever used the Dragonfly or Stingray X2 from Inkmachines? If so would you recommend it over the bishop fantom for black and grey work?
Watching all your Cheyenne reviews!! Out of all their machines can I please know what you feel would be best for dot (SMP) work? Much appreciated Sir!!
BossZen hey thanks for watching, it’s not my area of expertise but I’d assume you’d be looking for moderate to short stroke with a softer hit and midrange speed requirements. The Cheyenne may not be the best lineup for you, they all have a slightly harder snappy hit. If I were to pic one I would say the Sol Luna seems like the best fit. Buuuuut you might be better off with an FK Irons Xion or Xion S, fully adjustable give which is better for cosmetic applications, moderate speed and hit. And it’s also a little over half the price when you factor in a Cheyenne grip. Again not my area of expertise but I’d think those two would be your best options, with an edge to the Xion
@@juanmarcoserni9989 amazing i got the Bishop wand liner yesterday the RUclipsr called “tattoo guy” Télls that is a láser doing big groups lines…. Lets see and yes the thunder is very nice with 3 to 7 liners 🤩🥳
Vadim Smirnoff tough question, if I could only pick one I think I’d go sol Terra or sol nova unlimited, it’s nice to have reactive mode for the price point but all three are essentially the same machines in a slightly different configuration so the feel is almost identical you wouldn’t be disappointed with any
Vadim Smirnoff no definitely a different feel than a thunder, more speed, more power, more solid hit reactive/sensi is just an extra feature and for the extra couple hundred bucks it makes sense to grab a machine with it I think
@@anthonyjenkins3335 hi Anthony bought sol terra.so excited. I never worked with anything like terra before.the solid black goes in so fast.i was surprised. Now an after a sol luna.and I will have all sol series machines.nova terra and luna.thats all I need.u sold a thunder, 2x edge x and spektra direct2.
I done last tattoo video with cheyenne sol terra, it was ok but this machine needs time to warm up with it. This machine have power! =) i want to buy it
Wassup man, I’ve been lookin into starting tattoos and I’ve been doing my research on what kinds of machines to use and etc and I’ve decided I want to start with a rotary pen, I feel like it’ll be best because it’s the closest thing to a pencil and it’ll be the easiest for me and easy to carry around with me. The only question i have is should i start with a kwadron equalizer proto then work my way up to the cheyenne hawk pen or should i go straight for the hawk pen, or is it something else you think i should get, i really trust your opinion. Also i am a black male and because of where i live im surrounded by alot of black and brown people so which do you think will be better for that.
King Fraser my opinion is to get an apprenticeship and learn to tattoo properly with a mentor that is qualified to teach. My advice will never be to buy a tattoo machine and ruin people’s skin so you can learn. Machine choice shouldn’t be in your mind for the next year and a half to two years.
Intrepid Tattoo yea ofc, I’ve been goin into different shops and looking for apprenticeships and I wasn’t going to tattoo any real skin unless I trusted doing it on my own especially with tons of practice on fake skin, im just curious to see how I should invest my money properly when the time comes
It almost feels like cheyenne is hellbent on being the “apple” of the machine world from proprietary cables to “revolutionary” tech that costs more to do the same job as other machines. As someone who owns a thunder and spirit Id say that If their newest technology allows it to run just as well as their sol nova its basically a lateral move for more money and Id rather get accustomed to their sol nova. or hawk pen. I just hope for cheyenne’s sake the flop of the sol nova and underwhelming first impressions of the terra/luna are a wakeup call and they start listening to the consumer
Jonathan Romo well said, unfortunately I don’t think any of the bigger companies care about what the consumer thinks, they’re using a huge social media following and the followings of their huge “pro teams” and sponsored artists to hype up every machine released. And they sell! We buy them thinking they’re great because 30 guys and girls who we’re supposed to respect who didn’t pay for it say whatever new machine is the best thing since sliced bread. All the companies are in an echo chamber, the sponsored artists what to keep their sponsors so they tell them how great they are and the manufacturers produce mediocre machines billed as the best. Modern tattooing is a trip.
Massimiliano Mattana this isn’t a “learn to tattoo” channel, that’s what proper apprenticeships are for. If you’re unsure how to set up a coil machine you need to do an apprenticeship with a professional not listen to talentless hacks trying to teach people how to tattoo on the internet. Most of them have no clue what they’re talking about and can’t tattoo well to begin with.
I agree with you that even try to learn to tattoo online is a big nonsense, this stuff you learn by doing and experimenting in first person. I've been asking about coil machines reviews and they are not all the same, but probably is better for most people to use shit pens and stuff like that, coil machine is harder to learn, a Cheyenne can be used by my nephew as well. Thanks the same for the replies
Def do a review all the axys Valhalla. !
hey dude I've been waiting for your review on those machines but in the meantime I bought myself a sol terra :D with a few points you are absolutely right.. I wouldnt buy one if I already had a hawk pen or sol nova cuz I dont think there is much of a difference between them. I bought the sol terra maybe 2 months ago & havent worked with another machine since then
That comment is very true u have 4 cheyenne machines they are so fucking good machines… yes just machines but they heal wow … they dont be a pain on clients …
Thank you for your honest opinion. Deciding between this and the Thunder. Buying the thunder now
Thanx for your great videos..I can highly recommend the new Bishop Wand.I have the packer with 4,2 mm stroke..It is very similar to the Sol Nova but i like it a bit more so far...I think the Bishop puts in lines better..I am tattooing since 21 years and prefer to have fast running machines because i work pretty fast and the Bishop ist perfect for my work style..Sorry for my weird english but i am from germany
@ZnickerZ Art Also ich bin sehr zufrieden damit...Habe alle möglichen Pens von Hawk über Xion bis Swashdrive Brush probiert,finde sie alle ganz gut aber der Bishop Wand Packer schlägt sie alle..Zumindest für meine Art zu arbeiten..Ich brauche halt ne Maschine die schnell dicke Linien und Farben rein macht..
@@carlosito2502 Hey!... I read in previous posts that you had tried the Swashdrive Brush ... in your opinion what is the difference between the Nova Nova, Brush and Wand? I have been considering the Brush for a while, but I would like to have an opinion of someone who has used these machines. I currently use the Xion
Marco Cornejo Hey,the brush is really nice but i like the Wand Packer more than all other pens. Especially when it comes to color packing the wand is way stronger than the brush..and compared to the sol nova the wand is way punchier for lining,it lines way faster
Wow Carsten i ordered the wand liner yesterday so am fan and admire the cheyenne products lets see!!! I have 2 thunders one hawk pen and the Spirit maybe i will remplace the Spirit for the sol luna 🌝
Hey Anthony!
Hope you and yours are safe and well during these strange times.
Looking forward to some new content bro! It’s been a minute.
I have both the sol nova and sol terra. I liked the xion but prefer the sol nova. I didn't like the edge x at all. I'm finding I use the sol nova way more than the sol terra because it handles fine lines and shading better imo. But for color packing with 20+ curved mags I find the sol terra really excels. And I think it handles larger liners better. I don't notice a big difference in feel myself as I'm tattooing but my clients tell me it hurts less and heals faster. Which are both great. I am able to use an Fk ergo click grip and the disposable click grips along with the darklabs vise nut without any problem. I actually put a video up for Anjris Straume after he mentioned not being able to use his as well. It does make more noise than a cheyenne grip but it runs just fine. No interference with the drive bar, holds tight, etc.
Dan Trueblood thanks for the input man! I knew there would be folks out there who did notice a difference but unfortunately on my end it wasn’t any significant change. Great machines regardless
my clients also tell me that the sol terra in sensi drive mode hurts much less & the tattoos heal faster.
that's great & I really like the machine. I bought the cheyenne grip cuz I heard that the fk irons grip doesnt work :(
MambusBambus I bought the vice nut straight from darklabs. I dunno if that makes any difference. Maybe getting the latest one. But I use the ergo click grip every day on the sol terra. And the disposable click grips work fine as well. I just prefer the feel of the Fk grip and it holds its position better than the cheyenne grip. Enough of a twist and the cheyenne grip will click out of place. Plus I just hate that round boring grip design. I use the disposable grips on the sol nova for the same reason. It's just more ergonomic to me. Sadly it looks like the new grips cheyenne is releasing soon are the same ole shape with just bigger options.
@@1Dantrn that sounds great man thanks for the advice. I personally also like the rpg click better.. maybe I'll buy the screw and check out if it works. thanks dude
I agree it does feel like the sol terra has the same motor as the sol nova, that .5 in the stroke lenght does make a diference to me, I think I like shading a lot more with the sol nova than the sol terra, I also feel the sol terra a bit stronger, maybe it Just need less voltage than the sol nova to run, the thing I dont understand about your review is the "sensi drive mode".
I bought the sol terra just because I like what a coil machine does when it comes to lines, and I wanted to se if the sol terra's sensi drive would do something similar. For me lining with the sol nova VS the sol terra in sensi drive is COMPLETELY diferent, it does feel like a coil to me, the needle stays more in contact to the skin while on sensi drive or something. This could turn into an intenze phisics talk if we go to deep into that, but there is definately a big diference if you line with a sol nova and a sol terra in sensi drive. I do everything, tradicional, realism, color realism, geométric, dotwork etc... I will always use the sol terra in sensi drive when I need to do lines thats for sure.
I bought the gorilla grip from fk and the adaptor from fk, and yes Its crap, Im trying a tatsoul adaptor and if it doesnt work I'll just use a cheyenne grip.
My recomendation is if you dont do a lot of lines dont buy the sol terra.
wayak psy I have both as well and agree with everything you said
wayak psy it’s awesome that it’s working for you!! I know there are people out there who that feature (in Canada it’s been marketed as reactive mode) will make a difference for I just found for my work it made no tangible difference. I also thought the same about the power level but I didn’t add that into the review because I think there’s a chance that the Sol Nova motor has slowed down since purchasing it and it would be false to compare speed unless I had both brand new machines in front of me. It is the same motor though I think the 4mm just gives it a more solid punch. Thanks for the input always good to have a few knowledgeable comments in the mix, I appreciate it!
Forgot to ask... What happened to your sol nova? Did they fix it?
@@anthonyjenkins3335 I agree with all of this…I have the sol terra I use for lining and love it for that, but for soft shading it’s not the machine…my sol nova has lost power since I’ve got it as well and I sent it in to US repair service and still have not received an email, call or text that they are going to work on it…this was 2 1/2weeks ago-does anyone have a phone number for Cheyenne repair service centers? It was nice to read something I agreed 100% with I’m regards to my Cheyenne machines, please contact me I’d like to discuss these machines further -Deborah
hey, man any plans on reviewing the bishop wand? Would love to hear your thoughts 🙏🏼
please review the wand as quick as possible, thanks for the review , always trust your opinion.
Fady Aziz workin on it! They’re back ordered at the moment I think!
Hey Anthony, thanks for inspiring works & great reviews! I consider buying a Bishop WAND machine and really wanted to hear what you think of it.. Did you try it? Cheers!
I have ch pen, spirit, solnova, sol luna. And actually have to say i prefer work with pen and spirit. The type of direct drive motors in those machines i think works betters for me. Sometimes i like that small give in new machines, sometimes not. Direct drive i think give me more control how i go to the skin and saturate faster. What u think?
Wow am thinking get the sol luna and sell the Spirit !!! Do you have the Spirit versión 1 or the second versión?
Thanks for the review , what power supply would you recommend to use for both?
I use a critical power supply & it works great
I really appreciate your hones review! I am looking to learn to tattoo and would love a suggestion for a beginner trying to do research. I am a detailed artist looking to work with both color and shading. I tend to lean towards a pen but would love a suggestion for what to purchase as my first machine.
Please review the wand! Love all your reviews
Love your reviews and opinions, I haven’t seen any worthwhile reviews of the Valhalla,any chance you can do one please
Hey man just wondering if you’ve ever used the Dragonfly or Stingray X2 from Inkmachines? If so would you recommend it over the bishop fantom for black and grey work?
Thanks for the review as always, was thinking all or what you confirmed. Cheers man
Yes wand review please 😊
Watching all your Cheyenne reviews!! Out of all their machines can I please know what you feel would be best for dot (SMP) work? Much appreciated Sir!!
BossZen hey thanks for watching, it’s not my area of expertise but I’d assume you’d be looking for moderate to short stroke with a softer hit and midrange speed requirements. The Cheyenne may not be the best lineup for you, they all have a slightly harder snappy hit. If I were to pic one I would say the Sol Luna seems like the best fit. Buuuuut you might be better off with an FK Irons Xion or Xion S, fully adjustable give which is better for cosmetic applications, moderate speed and hit. And it’s also a little over half the price when you factor in a Cheyenne grip. Again not my area of expertise but I’d think those two would be your best options, with an edge to the Xion
Intrepid Tattoo thanks 🙏 SO much!!!
Hey man one question. Which machine do you recommend for color packing and qhat voltage do you use? Sorry if my english is not the best
Any ideas on a good pen liner either adjustable depth machine or fixed 4mm
hy Anthony you can maybe do a review on the Axys Valhalla, I heard you should be the best machine. Thank you, best regards from Austria
Thanks for the review!
Bro can you recomend me some rotatory machine to get really good line work , I have the inkjecta nano and sometimes I have some problems for line work
Thunder or sol terra if you can afford!!!! 🤑
@@alquetatuabienlevabien thanks for the answer! I’m working with coils right now and from 9 to 14 are perfect, from 3 to 7 I use thunder.
@@juanmarcoserni9989 amazing i got the Bishop wand liner yesterday the RUclipsr called “tattoo guy” Télls that is a láser doing big groups lines…. Lets see and yes the thunder is very nice with 3 to 7 liners 🤩🥳
Hi Anthony. Wich one would you prefer?sol terra or sol nova?
Vadim Smirnoff tough question, if I could only pick one I think I’d go sol Terra or sol nova unlimited, it’s nice to have reactive mode for the price point but all three are essentially the same machines in a slightly different configuration so the feel is almost identical you wouldn’t be disappointed with any
@@anthonyjenkins3335 so if it not a sensi drive option on sol terra then itc a pretty much a cheyenne thunder then
Vadim Smirnoff no definitely a different feel than a thunder, more speed, more power, more solid hit reactive/sensi is just an extra feature and for the extra couple hundred bucks it makes sense to grab a machine with it I think
@@anthonyjenkins3335 hi Anthony bought sol terra.so excited. I never worked with anything like terra before.the solid black goes in so fast.i was surprised. Now an after a sol luna.and I will have all sol series machines.nova terra and luna.thats all I need.u sold a thunder, 2x edge x and spektra direct2.
I'm looking for a machine for linework (I like to use 11RL or 9RS for lines) and dotwork. Any recommendations? :)
I have Xion Spektra but I'd like to try another rotary.
The edge x is super slow I don’t like it for lines and it vibrates a lot
the truth ! happy I saved my money!
I done last tattoo video with cheyenne sol terra, it was ok but this machine needs time to warm up with it. This machine have power! =) i want to buy it
Wassup man, I’ve been lookin into starting tattoos and I’ve been doing my research on what kinds of machines to use and etc and I’ve decided I want to start with a rotary pen, I feel like it’ll be best because it’s the closest thing to a pencil and it’ll be the easiest for me and easy to carry around with me. The only question i have is should i start with a kwadron equalizer proto then work my way up to the cheyenne hawk pen or should i go straight for the hawk pen, or is it something else you think i should get, i really trust your opinion. Also i am a black male and because of where i live im surrounded by alot of black and brown people so which do you think will be better for that.
King Fraser my opinion is to get an apprenticeship and learn to tattoo properly with a mentor that is qualified to teach. My advice will never be to buy a tattoo machine and ruin people’s skin so you can learn. Machine choice shouldn’t be in your mind for the next year and a half to two years.
Intrepid Tattoo yea ofc, I’ve been goin into different shops and looking for apprenticeships and I wasn’t going to tattoo any real skin unless I trusted doing it on my own especially with tons of practice on fake skin, im just curious to see how I should invest my money properly when the time comes
Intrepid Tattoo i just dont want to waste $70 on a trash kit to practice on fake skin that i cant use for real skin when the time is right
It almost feels like cheyenne is hellbent on being the “apple” of the machine world from proprietary cables to “revolutionary” tech that costs more to do the same job as other machines. As someone who owns a thunder and spirit Id say that If their newest technology allows it to run just as well as their sol nova its basically a lateral move for more money and Id rather get accustomed to their sol nova. or hawk pen. I just hope for cheyenne’s sake the flop of the sol nova and underwhelming first impressions of the terra/luna are a wakeup call and they start listening to the consumer
Jonathan Romo well said, unfortunately I don’t think any of the bigger companies care about what the consumer thinks, they’re using a huge social media following and the followings of their huge “pro teams” and sponsored artists to hype up every machine released. And they sell! We buy them thinking they’re great because 30 guys and girls who we’re supposed to respect who didn’t pay for it say whatever new machine is the best thing since sliced bread. All the companies are in an echo chamber, the sponsored artists what to keep their sponsors so they tell them how great they are and the manufacturers produce mediocre machines billed as the best. Modern tattooing is a trip.
I couldnt agree more. I appreciate your unbiased reviews and taking hits to the pocket so we don’t have to
Comparing them to Apple is exactly my thought.
Any coil machine review?
Massimiliano Mattana coils can be adjusted to do literally anything you want depending on geometry, no point in reviewing something so fluid imo
@@anthonyjenkins3335 thanks Antony, there would be a point in showing the various settings for who is new to the "industry" and pros and cons imho
Massimiliano Mattana this isn’t a “learn to tattoo” channel, that’s what proper apprenticeships are for. If you’re unsure how to set up a coil machine you need to do an apprenticeship with a professional not listen to talentless hacks trying to teach people how to tattoo on the internet. Most of them have no clue what they’re talking about and can’t tattoo well to begin with.
I agree with you that even try to learn to tattoo online is a big nonsense, this stuff you learn by doing and experimenting in first person. I've been asking about coil machines reviews and they are not all the same, but probably is better for most people to use shit pens and stuff like that, coil machine is harder to learn, a Cheyenne can be used by my nephew as well. Thanks the same for the replies
Massimiliano Mattana you clearly have a lot to learn friend, best of luck to you.
Arent they just direct drive
oh man , you are really investing on your machines jajaja .
I'll stick to my dragonfly...fcking cheyenne machines are overhyped and overpriced
wtf ! u dont have,,ok cyaaa