OUR FIRST TIME WATCHING BAND OF BROTHERS EP 9 | Why We Fight
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2024
- Easy Company finally enter Germany, to little resistance, and have a chance to relax for the first time in a long while. A patrol in a nearby forest discovers an abandoned Nazi concentration camp, still filled with emaciated prisoners. Locals refuse to acknowledge the camp's existence.
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The comment about "BMW is better" misses the whole point. GM and ford were producing enormous amounts of vehicles for the war effort while the German military was using horse drawn carts... BMW might be decent today but that has nothing to do with 80 years ago. Context is everything.
Which is super funny in a way, considering that Ford also had factories manned by slaves... sorry 'imprisoned people' to make vehicles for Hitler, because Hitler was a big fan of Ford. Him being an antisemetic murderer and all, Ford I mean. Henry Ford was the same kind of 'billionaire' asshole we have today. Shooting protesting workers, not giving a shit about work safety, trying to create cities where he could control all his workers did (eat, drink, sleep).
And then the Myth that Ford "pulled himself up by his bootstraps". Except he got two huge farms and a forestry as inheritance and had to do NOTHING to be rich. All he did was become richer. Which is super easy to do once you HAVE money.
Fuck Ford, is what I am saying, and I am not talking about the vehicles.
BMW & Daimler-Benz made engines for the Luftwaffe; probably for the army as well.
People don't realize the car is worse, way worse. They're paying for the brand badge. They figure it out by year two of owning one when it's on a lift 80% of the time.
@@alanholck7995 Engines for aircraft and motorcycles, i believe. they did make some cars before the war, but were told to focus on aircraft engines.
Germany's problem was not an inability to produce lots of vehicles. It was their lack of access to oil that was their undoing.
Jewish person here, my family refuged to Sweden after the war. But we lost most of our family in auschwitz and buchenwald. Thanks for reacting to one of the most terrible things happened to my folks. Thanks! I hope that I never have to see this again
Thank you, with all of my heart. I know it’s just a reaction video, but it’s so important that we know how gruesome people can be.
Thank you for showing the world what happened.
Those Germans in that town knew full well what was going on. They chose to look the other way. It's funny to me, how a very large number of German citizens were proud to be affiliated with the Nazi party during Hitler's rise to power and had no real issue with the persecution, torture and murder (or at least the "relocation", as they were told) of millions of Jews and other minorities. Yet, as one of the guys mentioned during the temporary occupation of that house, with all the Germans they came across, not a one ever admitted to being a Nazi.
Those Germans knew. They were rounded up from their towns and put on trains. The locals treated the Jewish people terrible before they were all rounded up.
Yeah, it’s completely bullshit when people say they didn’t know. Like they didn’t see thousands of their neighbors disappear?
Most of them didn't know about the camps. They knew that neighbors and others had been rounded up and moved away. They were also forbidden to go into the areas where the camps were located or there'd be severe punishment. So they lived their lives as normal in a suspicious ignorance. Whatever they knew about the camps was largely based on rumors and stories from 3rd parties. The regular people were just as responsible for what happened but many of them didn't realize what they had allowed to take place.
A very large part of the population knew and helped.They would report the whereabouts of Jews in hiding so they could be known as loyal to the party. The beginning of Jojo Rabbit perfectly shows how fanatical Germany really was for Hitler and the Nazi party.
@@Farbar1955 Bull...there is a great book titled... Hitler's Willing Executioners - Wikipedia.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler%27s_Willing_Executioners
German culture incubated a particularly extreme and genocidal form of anti-Semitism. Due to the prevalence of this ideology in German culture during the Third Reich, the majority of ordinary Germans actively wished to eliminate Jews from German life. Consequently, they chose to participate in the Holocaust, believing that their actions were “right and necessary”.
There was a uniquely German anti-Semitism going back to Martin Luther’s 1543 publication... "On the Jews and Their Lies"
Yeah, Hitler wasn't an exception when it came to antisemitism, it was deeply ingrained in German society. Just google Judensau .
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judensau
To add realism to the concentration camp scenes they had patients from the local cancer hospital act as extras.
I know at first it seems harsh to kick Germans out of their homes, but remember, all these Americans had to give up their lives and go to war because of Germany. Our guys have been dying and fighting OUTSIDE for over a year, through the winter even, so if they want shelter for ONE night and seem abrubt- consider what they've sacrificed to have to be there in the first place. War spares no one.
And American troops overall behaved waaaayyy better than German and Russian troops did in that kind of situation, who basically r8ped their way across enemy territory.
@@lizd2943 Very true, same with the British and Canadians behaving way better.
The black ribbon on the photo of the general means he died in service
They knew,The banality of Evil.
The Germans knew.
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A lot of villages near KL's, they all knew what was happening in those camps. And it actually was worse as the Nazi's evacuated their eastern camps, they shipped all the prisoners to Germany. And when the average German saw these columns of starving humans, they actually complained to local police that they better make sure that the 'criminals' don't steal from them.
'Woah - They must have done something real bad' The soldiers being executed by the French officer (who may have been played by Tom Hanks) were French citizens who were fighting in the German army.
I thought they were Germans who didn't surrender. They were still armed in that barn. I could be wrong.
@@cshubsDoesn’t matter either way. It all comes down to French soldiers giving payback to the Germans; the country/people who invaded and brutally occupied France since 1940.
Just curious as to why you thought they were French. What do you notice ?
@@jeff-ni5cy Heard it in a previous discussion of the episode. I do know there were some French who fought w/ the Germans; my understanding is that was what they were truing to portray
@@jeff-ni5cy The helmets. I don't know of any others that looked like that.
Most of the people in the US and military did not know about the concentration camps until the Allies entered into Germany , Poland , etc. towards the end of the war. They knew the Jews were being persecuted against and were being kicked out of their homes and forced into ghettos since that was happening since the late 1930's. It wasn't until the camps started to be discovered during the times this episode portrays is when they really understood how insanely inhumane and bad it was. I believe this might have also been one of the big reasons as to why the US was so ready to drop nukes on Japan. They've just discovered the true horrors of the Axis powers and their secret camps to eradicate human beings, and since Germany surrendered the US took out all of their revenge, anger, disgust, and payback onto the only enemy left fighting. Of course they wanted to drop the bomb to see how it really works after spending all that time on it but, I don't think the 2nd bomb would have dropped if the above didn't happen. The amount of death that happened from 1934ish-1945 is unimaginable. Stalin alone killed more of his own people than Hitler, the Japanese empire, Italy, and everyone else combined who killed their enemies and own people...Stalin was the biggest murderer of WW2, Hitler was the biggest monster, and the Japanese empire were the biggest savages/barbarians. Allies did some messed up shit too that can't be forgiven; Dresden for one... "Only the dead have seen the end of war"
The extras who acted has the prisoners where actual Cancer Patients getting or awaiting treatment. When making the concentration camp scene, behind the scenes people asked many of the actors if they want to see a memorial in order to get ready for it, all of them said no because they wanted to see the concentration camp with virgin eyes like the real E Company did over 80 years ago. The shock and awe from the actors are raw and real. I cry every time when I reach to Episode 9 because has someone who has a degree in history, we can never forget the atrocistes of the Holocaust. (Side Note: Babe Heffron said that the depiction in BoB wasn't accurate - in reality it was 1000 times worse.)
Many people of today especially the young who are forgetting that the Jewish people have lost so much because of one man and many of his followers did to them. That is why Mossad was created in Israel "Central Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations," because when Nazi Germany was losing the war, many high level Nazis escaped to other countries especially to Buenos Aires, Argentina. When Mossad agents get information on a Nazi escapee's they go and get them, send them back to Israel, put them on trial, and finally hanged. Mossad even today are still looking for any Nazis from WWII, even though many are old men and women, Mossad still will hang them for murdering their people.
This is a difficult episode. I can't help but get emotional every time I watch this. Between the dichotomy of Nixion and the Widow with the dog and how raw and overwhelmed the soldiers are in all the scenes they are in.
Hitler killed himself on April 30th, 1945. That was my mom's 5th birthday. My mom's whole family was from Germany and Austria. Everyone in her family immigrated to NY in the 1890s where I was born and raised. My grandmother told me that it was the BEST 5th birthday my mom ever had! There was a collective sigh of relief.
Watch the show hunting Hitler, there are many indications that could prove Hitler was alive and escaped Germany. But if I were the guy in charge of telling the truth or a lie to the people, I may have chosen a lie, like they did, so everybody would feel relieved.
Regarding Nixon's wife divorcing him it was not an uncommon thing to happen to soldiers during the war.
Most of these men were recently married just before getting called up and then spending 2+ years away with letters being the only way to communicate with their loved ones. Because communication was so limited rumors started flying that the men were having affairs overseas or visiting brothels (and many were). This along with that fact that many of these women had to take on full time jobs to provide for their young families and that they might one day receive a letter that their husband was killed, possibly months ago, lead many women to either have affairs themselves or look for new partners outright. This lead to what were known as "Dear John Letters" basically code for I'm leaving you or I'm getting a divorce. These letters were dreaded by soldiers and whenever one was received it caused the soldiers to lose morale and become much less effective. It got so bad at one point the US government forbade the wives of soldiers to file for divorce until after the war ended.
Now Nixon was one of the cases where he absolutely deserved it as he actually was having an affair with a woman in England.
I deployed 7 times throughout my 21 yr career in the Army. I was wounded. Death became the norm. Saying “why can’t we be humble”. Is ignorant. It’s not that easy to just shut it off. Trauma is real!
Whe We Fight is the name of a Frank Capra produced series of films made for the US Gov't to educate the soldiers on the background of the war. All the Easy Co members would have seen it. They are available on RUclips.
9:15 don’t look up what the Russians did to German civilians
my father arrived in France after Dday then helped push the Germans out of france and back to Germany in germany he and other divisions came across an abandoned death camp there was 15,000 people starving and many dead he said the scenes were like a nightmare come to life skeletons walking barely alive and the stench form hundreds of dead people was overwhelming he still had nightmares 25 years later he said you never forget that
BMW is Better? WTF?
She's not wrong.
It was likely most adults knew something bad was happening. People can turn a blind eye if they need to, very easily. Asking questions, or even worse trying to help, could get you taken away in the night as well. So what would you have done? I like to think I am a good person, but I’m not sure I would have risked myself, and my family, against a regime set up to destroy any resistance. So yes, a lot of people knew something bad was happening, many of them knew more specifically about the forced labour, some even about the genocide, what could they do?
The same people who say they would fight the nazis back then in Germany more than likely would have listened to the nazis
An interesting fact about Webster's rant at the German POWs. He said "Say hello to Ford." Most of the German vehicles, trucks and armoured cars were built by Opel, the Ford subsidiary in Germany. In fact, after the war, Henry Ford petitioned to be compensated for the fact that Allied bombers destroyed the Opel factory. Old Hank received $15,000,000 in damages. So, the Germans knew about Ford. Intimately.
Opel was a subsidiary of General Motors during World War II and continued until 2017 when Opel was purchased by a French company. However, Ford did manufacture and sell automobiles in Germany with a major factory in Cologne, Germany that was destroyed by Allied bombing during the war.
@@jamesolson2334 - GMC manufacturing Germany’s vehicles is brought up in the “Masters of the Air” finale.
@@ChienaAvtzonAlso GM’s 4:48 Opel plant was located in Rüsselheim where the incident involving German civilians killing captured American airmen actually occurred. BTW: the Opel plant in Rüsselheim was rebuilt after the war and produces Opels to this day.
Look up The Paperclip Project. It’s about a middle school in Tennessee (I think) that made a memorial by collecting a paperclip per victim.
Same thing happen to me, was so engrossed in the show and the characters with their battles that I forgot what war was being fought, totally blanked on it too
Germany was in rubble!
You know, I've seen a lot of these reactions. It's not the fault of the commentators on this one, but a sad reflection of our school system. Jeez, I learned about this stuff in 3rd grade. This video should be seen by everyone as a bare minimum to what the Nazi's were doing. And how, quickly, things like this could reoccur even in our modern times. No side in these wars was completely innocent of war atrocities, but this stuff can never be forgotten by those who wish to rewrite history.
Imagine carrying your half dead father or brother hoping he can make it just a little bit longer only to die and missed the Americans by a mere 15 minutes.
Imagine seeing all of the horrors of War that these people have witnessed...Then being speechless seeing this. "Why We Fight" is a nod to the epic Frank Capra WW2 series that was being shown during the War back home. I really believe Spielberg intentionally has the Nazi woman in the vivid red coat as a direct reference and connection to the little Jewish girl in Schindler's List. I don't think there are coincidences in his films...The actors weren't even allowed to see the set until the day of shooting, they wanted to get a genuine reaction from them. While the prisoners were some actual cancer patients who wanted to be a part of this. What shocks me is how surprised most people are reacting to this, having no idea what they were about to see...I think we get so immersed in the characters and immediacy we lose track of the big picture and tragedy. I implore you to see "The Fallen of WW2" for some perspective on everything. Currahee
Tom Hanks alert! 🚨10:35
He was acting frustration when he stayed in say hello to Ford in general motors. In other words why did they shlep them across the world when they were so clearly unprepared for war against an industrial giant like the United States. Also emptying a house of Germans who for 5 years uprooted in slaughtered millions is a part of war. They needed the house for whatever reason, we need to be less judgmental of these men who have been in close quarter combat for years now.
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The Allies would just shoot anyone who was a guard at a camp, can't really condemn that personally. This is one of the most important episodes of TV ever put on tape, because it warns us of the evil an ideology can perpetrate.
This was a rough one. Glad you guys stuck with the series
I hope you guys do "The Pacific" as well.
The big camps were in Poland & in Russia they were murdered in places like Babi Yar
All the world knew
Broken Motor Woes
Too much random chit chat, not enough substance! Stopped watching after a few minutes! Channel blocked. Bye.
They knew. But, what cld they do? We Americans don't live in a perfect nation, but we live in a free society w/due process, checks & balances, rights to speak out even when unpopular, etc. Difficult enough to "fight city hall" when u think the govt is infringing on your civil rights, u don't like a govt policy, etc. We get mad & vent w/out being charged w/sedition & imprisoned (for the most part). Try living under a Totalitarian Dictatorship during wartime. Speak out against the govt or govt policies & see what happens. Be in business & tell the Nazis "No" when they come into your factory & say "You're now producing war materials & we're giving you Jewish slave labor." See what happens. We take our Freedoms for granted to point where many are willing to give them up. It's why it's SO important for us all to learn abt (not only) World War 2, but lessons throughout history. The 2 of u may not be World War 2 experts. But, fact that you're watching Band of Brothers shows that you're learning. Many don't want to expose themselves to the uncomfortable or history in general. Keep learning!
The towns people knew about what was going on. And they did nothing.
It's easy to say you would do something when you have nothing on the line. Try doing something with a family knowing you are putting their lives at risk of death or worse being put into those camps. Sometimes in life there are bad things that happen that as much as you wish you could fight it you know the collateral for it would be too much to bear. And when people are in those situations we shouldn't be placing the blame on those without the means or power to fight evil we should be placing the blame on the evil itself.
@@ElderlyKoala cope😂
@@_pepperz7455 whatever makes you feel morally righteous bud. Usually the people who say they would have fought against the nazi regime in Germany in the 1930s more than likely would have supported them or been complacent in it it's easy to flaunt your morals when they've never been tested. But you do you Mr. Morals.
@@ElderlyKoala I never said that. You really care enough to type all that out?
@@_pepperz7455 I care about as much as you do to troll in a comment section the only question is is the troll a cope for having a dumb judgement or was it a troll from the beginning? The world may never know
American government had rough idea what Germans are preparing to do since 1940 - and they had complete and detailed picture by 1943. They had plenty reports of transports and transitory camps from resistance movements from entire Europe and detailed reports on main death camps from Polish underground state. US politicians decided not to disseminate the knowledge to general populace for reasons unknown - but I find it almost hard to believe the US generals didn't know. This was vital strategic knowledge, what would be the reason for blindsiding them? Yet they acted surprised when confronted with reality of camps in Germany. Smoke and mirrors to avoid admitting to their own men that US knew entire time?
Whatever the truth is, every piece of media describing Western front in 1945 has obligatory "US troops are shocked by discovering camps" scene. And since most people learn history from popculture, soon everybody will forget US knew - and did next to nothing. Of course that's not even shocking compared to obligatory "German citizens are even more shocked" scene. Like nobody ever wondered what happened with their Jewish neighbors...
Think it was a little more complicated than that. No satellites or stealth planes and regular planes got shot down all the time. When America got in the war Germany was all the way into France and the camps took years to reach. Russians got their first too.
@@Zifferox Oh, I fully acknowledge there was not much that allies could have done to stop Holocaust in 1943. I am just focusing on the subject of dissemination of knowledge. I could understand soldiers' ignorance on the matter, up to junior officers - they would have learned about it from civilian circulation, from the press - but we know US media have shown very little interest in the topic and I doubt it was because they didn't find it interesting.
The information staff level officers had or not had, is entirely another thing. I wonder about the reasons somebody on the very top level of US government wanted it that way. This wasn't something that could have happened by omission. It wasn't a single file that could have fallen behind the cabinet.
And yet another entirely another thing are creative decisions made when producing show like BoB. Sure, nobody makes a literal statement "US didn't know" - but the subject is presented with intent to make this impression. Let's take the choice of words for the closing screens for example, which say allied forces "discovered" numerous camps. You can't discover a thing that you were explicitly notified in writing about.
@@echinorlax They didn't find it interesting? You must have forgotten the earlier furstration of the Jewish soldiers during this time already. Again to reiterate simply; just because they knew there were camps didnt mean they knew the extent the germans went to by having their gold teeth stripped, branded, starved, and gassed because bullets were too costly.
Especially the part of burning the camps alive since that happened only upon Allied arrival.
Its much more complicated than that.
@@Zifferox Of course it's more complicated than that, you can't cover a subject of Holocaust in one youtube comment - but you are wrong about what you've written here. The extent of the operation and the details of its inhumane industrialization were exactly the details provided by European resistance I wrote about earlier. There were many people who escaped from transports, some even escaped death camps - providing first hand testimonies of everything. By the D-Day there was literally nothing of note left for UK and US governments to learn about German death camps.
Prompt dissemination of information about death camps is not a matter of mere "whatifs" half a century later. There were still Jews for Nazis to gather and transport all over Europe - one of such eyewitness' reports found its way to Jewish community in Hungary around time Germans were rounding them up. Survivors literally confirmed they decided to risk an escape only after they read what happened in the place the trains were to take them to, and without this info, they would not take the risk and would have boarded the train, as they family members who refused to believe the report, did.Trains were heading to Auschwitz.
Even in war, even in pre-internet times, nothing could have stopped the slow but steady flow of information from London to entire Europe - but instead of issuing press releases about Auschwitz, British Foreign Office issued advices to newspaper editors warning them against "spreading sensationalist material".
Oh of course the USA knew but it's the USA we are talking about. It didn't bother them at all in the beginning. They were selling oil to the Japanese until the late 41 supporting massacres in China and neighbouring states until this all started to become a headache for their trade, economy and lifestyle. That's when they embargoed oil sales to Japan because of which the Japanese became mad and bombed pearl harbour which gave the Americans an excuse to officially join the war. Btw Americans had concentration camps of their own for the Japanese which was situated in california. They used to call them relocation camps.
The United States ability to turn their wartime effort to full blown wartime economy with factories like GM, ford, and other huge productions. For instance in Seattle at the Boeing factory (lol Boeing) at the height of the war the Boeing factory was pumping out 16 brand new b-17 Bombers a DAY. When the battle of coral sea happened and the USS Yorktown was damaged.. the dock yard said it would take three months.. they got it done in 72 hours in time for the battle of the midway. America production was at an all time height in 1943. Logistics. We’re good at them.
3:13 also the women he was sending this stuff too. It was a women he met and married in England, the women thought she was a widow but it was found out her husband was a POW the whole time in war. She left Speirs for her original husband taking their son with them and all the stuff he sent back to her. He never got it back.
10:50 the humbleness? Maybe Germany shouldn’t commit genocide and start a WORLD WAR. They deserved no humbleness. Fuck em.
16:30 like you said BMW is better!!
A big factor into aiding the US war efforts were that they could operate without the threat of being bombed constantly and shutting down production. That's why I believe that even if Hitler got a hold of all the liquid Dino in the world. US still would have won, it just would have took a lot longer. Because we were already taking the fight to their country and it's factories while ours were operating 24/7 unchecked. Add in the atom bomb which would have been used on Hitler's Germany the moment it was available.
Awesome reaction of my favorite episode of Band Of Brothers!!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊
Seriously, you've been watching Band of Bros for a while and seen what the Germans have done to the world, and you think that's a good time to promote BMW versus American cars? Any Jew watching this reaction and hearing you talk like that would be offended at your insensitivity. I mean, you're watching the most evil empire in history, does that not sink in at any point? After discovering the the meaning behind the episode title you'd think you reserve a comment like that for another time.
The truth always surfaces.
Just playing Devil's Advocate here - and I'm certainly not about to presume to speak on behalf of "any Jew" - but in all fairness, they made the 'BMW' remark well before the concentration camp scene, and the meaning behind the episode's title, was revealed.
@@AMacLeod426 They could have edited it out
Just keep in mind the Russians lost 27 million people (8.7 military, 19 million civilians)
BTW, Congrats to her getting it in one. Red lady's husband was THAT guy.
She is also the opposite bookend to the girl in the red coat in Schindler’s List. Not the red was the only color in both scenes. The girl represents the complete innocence of the victims; the woman the guilt of the German citizens.
Note not not. Stupid autocorrect
No way should they come in contact with the inmates...so many infectious diseases ..tuberculosis ..typhoid..etc.
German manufacturing, while superior in performance in many aspects, lacked the ease of repair and they couldn’t produce enmasse like the United States was capable of.
Your scruples and sensitivities are quite amusing to see. Part of your western heritage, I suppose. Nixon smashing the picture of the German officer is quite a mild display of field rage, or French troops knocking off prisoners. Crazy as the latter was, those things are pretty common in real wars no matter what the news reels tell us. Speaking for myself, I know I'd be thrice - if not more times - crueler than my enemy; it's how wars are won.
Great reaction.
The photo of the german at 11:28 was the SS Commander of the camp you see later in the episode...and the lady was his wife.
He's wearing army officer uniform not SS
Also, he wouldn't be the commander of the camp since he was already killed in action. That is indicated by the black border ribbon on the photo. Just like a gold star on a flag on the door of an American home.
WOW.
The German woman's husband wasn't seen earlier. His picture had a black ribbon across one corner, which meant he'd been killed in combat.
Current context.. This episode why Israel is trouncing Hamas so hard right now. Also For thousands of years, People have fled from upcoming battles. Why now in Gaza strip are people not fleeing???
Because they have nowhere to go. Their borders are closed.
She missed the point of ,"say hello to Ford..." Not a criticism, there are several things they were too subtle on here. For example it took me watching many reactions to figure that older woman in red was married to a high ranking officer who lived near the camp. Her husband was the commandant who order the "Shoot the prisoners until out of ammo." She is the one Winters guessed warned them. Oh, they had no BMWs, they had horse and donkeys. At this point the war should be over but the Germans did not surrender. (We later learned to stall the Russians and surrender to the Americans.)
Her husband was not an SS officer.
He couldn't be the commander of the camp since he was already killed in action. That is indicated by the black border ribbon on the photo. Just like a gold star on a flag on the door of an American home.
Bmw, British motor works. Woof
Bavarian Motor Works
Bayerische Motoren Werke. Woof.
Umm…no🤣🤣
None of us are saints. All we can do is remember the past and try to do better than the people before us.
British Motor VEHICLE =BMW
Bavarian Motor Works or Bayerische Motoren Werke, in German
Bayerische Motoren Werke
Spin again 😂.
Lol. I love when people are completely incorrect and are so confident that they’re right.
Insensitive? Remember when Nixon said, "There's a certain lady in Aldbourne I'm going to look up." He had been cheating on his wife and she found out about it. Still think she was being Insensitive? Just because the show cherry picked information to give you doesn't mean you got it all.
The show doesn't say she found out, that's just your assumption. And yes, when she's sitting at home with the dog and the kid, living well since she's married to the heir of Nixon Industries, and he's going through D-Day, then Market Garden, then Bastogne, then another combat drop where he and another guy are the only survivors, and she decides she wants to divorce now and not even wait until he gets home... yeah, insensitive is the best word I can use. The stress she is under is nowhere near what he's lived through.
Bmw in no way is better than anything
Saying BMW is better is an admittance that you don't even change your own brake pads or oil.......lol You are paying for the brand, not mechanical security when you buy a BMW. They're in the shop ten times more than almost any domestic car brand. The amount of plastic in a BMWs engine in very problematic places is mind boggling. Your first year with it might be great, by year two you are sick of your rental car and your Beemer spends 80% of it's time up on a lift in a bay.
10:45 Those are French soldiers executing the Germans
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