PIMAX CRYSTAL vs HP REVERB G2 - A Worthy UPGRADE? Let's DISCUSS! Microsoft Flight Simulator

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024

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  • @VRFlightSimGuy
    @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +7

    If you found this video useful and are thinking of ordering the next generation Pimax Crystal, I have a small discount code: "VRSIMGUY" (which is Affiliated) HERE: pimax.com/?ref=r2cQAf
    *Feel free to use it if you'd like to support the channel*
    Thanks for watching!
    VRFSG

    • @donc9751
      @donc9751 Год назад +1

      Thanks for the $20 discount Steve! I ordered the pinax today!
      I've been searching thru all your crystal videos looking for one of those straps for comfort that go across the top I was sure you had something you recommended for the pmx crystal.
      Thanks for all your hard work my friend!

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +1

      @@donc9751 Woah congratulations Don! Thankyou for also supporting the channel buddy, it means a lot. I haven't actually tried the Studio form weight balancer yet, I think it's still under development. Might be worth asking what people use on my Discord. Welcome to the best visuals in VR my friend.

  • @ADX77
    @ADX77 Год назад +6

    G2 owner... Had a couple of G1s and a Rift CV1... Definitely looking for the next upgrade.
    Im just not sure about the horizontal FOV... Maybe not enough to justify the upgrade.
    Mosty sim racing (iRacing) but also DCS and MSFS.

  • @tra757200
    @tra757200 Год назад +16

    It would be nice if someone could create a "flat lens" conversion for the G2 or do something to replace the fresnel lens. Are there any VR Headset hackers that mod their headsets like the G2? I wouldn't imagine that anyone would want to hack their $2k headset, but the G2 is cheap enough that I would cut into it in an effort to make it better.

    • @2ndLastJedi
      @2ndLastJedi Год назад

      Haha I just asked about this before reading the comments.

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +3

      A pancake lens version of the Reverb would be what we all want, but sadly, it's not as simple as just slapping on a new pair of lenses. You'd need to properly calibrate the lenses, not to mention changing the firmware and software. It's a big task.

    • @tra757200
      @tra757200 Год назад

      @TFT 5150 Said those about electric cars and private rockets to space. Hacking isn't about cost, it's about doing without knowing. With some imagination, gumption and a 3D printer, all is possible. I wouldn't attempt on a brand-new Crystal or other $2k+ headset unless someone else had succeeded at making significant improvements, but the G2 can be had for $400 or less at this time. Years ago, I noticed some of the cores in my intel “SometrhingOrAnother running much hotter than the others. The solution was to pop the top off the CPU, clean out the old paste, add new thermal paste and put the top back on. It worked a treat and I saved my cpu from an early demise. If you are convinced it can't be done, you will need to wait until someone else makes it happen. With HP no longer producing them, initially, they will, most likely, increase in cost, but at some point no one will want one so they will become cheap, until someone makes them as clear as a Crystal. Adding a few other "features" like active cooling would be very possible with a 3D printer and a small drill. Once a Maker, always a Maker. I got no more gumption left, (I’m old), so I probably won’t be doing it, but surely someone else has thought about it and they will have the gumption. I can hardly wait!

    • @tra757200
      @tra757200 Год назад +1

      @@VRFlightSimGuy Just curious, what sort of FW changes?

  • @paulmann8675
    @paulmann8675 Год назад +4

    Hi Steve It’s like trying to compare a ford with a Ferrari TBH and with the g2 and the sweet and open xr tool kit and the setup guide I found the sweet spot was huge and not a issue at all so clear no edge to edge of course
    Obviously not as clear as the crystal with them lenses and panels it never would be
    I think it’s the next step for g2 owners wanting to upgrade but us humble quest 2 owners I was blown away with how good the g2 can be for the price

  • @alu2387
    @alu2387 Год назад +6

    I really enjoy the G2. It is clear enough for me and it works wonders with the 4090. Dont want to buy something else that will make me spend another grand and half :D

  • @jamiesalmonsculpture8599
    @jamiesalmonsculpture8599 Год назад +3

    I decided to bite the bullet and pre order the Crystal for my 3080 system. Thanks to yours, MRTV and Tatiana's testing of it I feel confident enough it will work well enough with the 3080. Finally a worthy upgrade to my trusty G2

  • @HEMSJim
    @HEMSJim Год назад +7

    Another great comparison video, Steve! I’ve been using the G2 from day one and it’s certainly been educational and frustrating to a degree. I’m amazed how far VR has come in MSFS, from a virtual slide show to seamless immersion. Couple that with the motion rig and it’s as close to real flying as you can get at this stage. Since upgrading to the 4090, I’m running at 200% resolution at near ultra settings and I’m more than happy with the experience. While the Crystal, or Aero, would be a worthy replacement, I’m holding out for the 12k…whenever that may be. The increased FOV in the 12k is the next goal for me. Thanks for all your time and effort in bringing us these videos, I don’t think I’d be at the point I’m at without them! 🍻

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +1

      Thankyou for your kind words, I'm really glad my little vids have helped you. The Reverb G2 SS that high is truly amazing! Take care and thanks for the support.

    • @DL1GKC
      @DL1GKC Год назад

      The 12k will be much more demanding in terms of hardware. Do you think the 4090 will handle that? Maybe a 5090 will be required

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +1

      @@DL1GKC Nope. I'd wager you'd need a 6090ti lol

  • @khaledassaf6356
    @khaledassaf6356 Год назад +2

    Thanks for this video, Steve. Definitely sold on upgrading to a Crystal now. Just need for Pimax to start shipping them in larger quantities.

  • @captainkoloth1631
    @captainkoloth1631 Год назад +14

    I'm interested potentially in upgrading to the Crystal from the G2, but I'm frustrated by the lack of anyone showing what settings they have in DCS or MSFS when they're testing the Crystal.

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +7

      I have a full settings guide for msfs posted a couple of days ago.

    • @JGStonedRaider
      @JGStonedRaider Год назад +4

      @@VRFlightSimGuy Need those DCS settings tho bud

    • @jamesleicher
      @jamesleicher Год назад +4

      and not everyone has 4090

    • @zorbakaput8537
      @zorbakaput8537 Год назад

      @@jamesleicher Well then you scale things back from his vid settings that affect performance, just like you would with a lower spec video card. Its not rocket science.

    • @zsavage1820
      @zsavage1820 10 месяцев назад +1

      I can tell you that it's not worth the pricetag yet... got my Reverb G2 version 2's for under 300.00 the Pimax Crystal VR Headsets you are looking at over $1400.00 UM for me anyway.. that's a huge FUK NO...

  • @ryszardorzechowicz5956
    @ryszardorzechowicz5956 Год назад +8

    Thanks for this video. This is a decision I have to make soon as G2 user. Meaning… switching to Crystal. The only question mark is… when Pimax is going to start massive shipping of Crystal?

    • @Donkim420
      @Donkim420 Год назад +4

      I'm on the same boat bro.. got the 4090 and the G2...

    • @Johnny_Thunder
      @Johnny_Thunder Год назад

      probably xmas at best.

  • @robinedgar1427
    @robinedgar1427 Год назад +1

    Great video! How does the camera passthrough on the Crystal? Is it the same searchlight controllers thing as in the G2? Can you read a PC keyboard?

  • @donc9751
    @donc9751 Год назад

    Great info Steve!!!! I'm trying to learn everything I can before pulling the trigger on a crystal!

  • @nzbankboyinvr4713
    @nzbankboyinvr4713 Год назад +1

    Thank you for making this and taking YOUR time to consider all of us with different PCs and Vr hardware….very hard to please everyone huh buddy…..you are only one man and there are limitless hardware combos out there…I think you do your best and it is appreciated. Now with that out the way, I wonder if over time, the battery degrades significantly like that of our Smartphones…..assume you can replace the battery in the Crystal? Any idea on cost if so?

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +1

      Thanks man, that means SOO much. I sometimes think I'm fighting a losing battle lol Yes you can replace the batteries. At a guess, I'd say that will last 2 or 3 years before the battery life starts depleting. So far, even after years and years of use, my Quest 2 batt life hasn't suffered at all.

  • @4secsharkmr352
    @4secsharkmr352 Год назад +1

    As always very good work.
    Have a nice evening my friend and take care.
    Thx

  • @millar876
    @millar876 Год назад +1

    Affordable? I’m on a £299 64GB quest 2 for for flight sim because it’s all I could afford, and can afford. 8 still like watching your videos for getting to see all the stuff I can’t afford, from VR headsets like these to add on packs. I’d love to be able to afford these kinds of HMDs, or the graphics hardware to run it properly, but I’m a full time unpaid carer for my additional needs kid, Vr flight simming is my respite escape, even if I have to sacrifice most settings for my hardware and still have it stutter, potato level VR is still better than pretty flat screen flight sim

  • @mostwanted2000
    @mostwanted2000 Год назад +1

    Thanks, great attention to details!

  • @Kam_MD11
    @Kam_MD11 Год назад

    Thanks Steve for reaffirming the decison to upgrade to the Crystal from the G2 great content as always

  • @MD-on9fi
    @MD-on9fi Год назад +1

    I fly with a valve index and its not that bad. Next upgrade I am definitely considering the crystal though.

  • @mikegc3816
    @mikegc3816 Год назад +1

    You get two dogs with the Pimax - Nice!

  • @ThorNjord
    @ThorNjord Год назад +1

    The through the lense difference is BRUTAL!😂

  • @Zerinth
    @Zerinth Год назад +1

    very interesting video could finally be time for a worthy upgrade from the G2

  • @compcotg6337
    @compcotg6337 Год назад +2

    I wanna see this compared to the Bigscreen when that comes out. I wished the Bigscreen had dynamic foveated rendering but then it wouldn't be as light as it is.

  • @joen7521
    @joen7521 Год назад +1

    Honestly, waiting for the post Apple VR arms race at this point. I’m really hoping this will be an inflection point.

  • @x32i77
    @x32i77 Год назад +1

    The brightness and sweet spot alone is worth it

  • @eaglefirestudio
    @eaglefirestudio Год назад +1

    Quest Pro actually has the best motion smoothing NOW,
    ASW - Oculus Asynchronous Space Warp,
    & brilliant pancake lenses with total edge to edge clarity…

  • @boblatouche2273
    @boblatouche2273 Год назад +1

    Great video as always, Finally got to pay for mine. waiting for my tracking info

    • @richbishop5136
      @richbishop5136 Год назад +1

      boblatouche2273, congratulations on your order progressing! When did you place your pre-order? I'm waiting to hear from Pimax about mine.

    • @boblatouche2273
      @boblatouche2273 Год назад

      @@richbishop5136 nov 2nd

  • @xjrthirteen
    @xjrthirteen Год назад +1

    Thanks Steve. I pre-ordered a Crystal some time ago to replace my G2. I got a bit worried with some of the earlier reports, including your findings, but feel better about it all since the recent firmware upgrades. As soon as they let me know I can order then I'll get it in 😁

    • @dsdsdsdsdsds3139
      @dsdsdsdsdsds3139 Год назад +1

      i wouldnt bother mate. very dissapointed. im a G2 owner and no way is this worth another £1000 on the G2 - slightly bigger vert fov and bit sharper across more of image but certainly doesnt live up to all the hype that some of these reviews are saying. G2 way more comfortable faceplate, lighter. just cant see why anyone could say that the visuals are "wow" and all the other superlatives...? its beyond me...

    • @xjrthirteen
      @xjrthirteen Год назад +2

      @@dsdsdsdsdsds3139 you know what fella, I wish you'd have posted that a while ago!
      I've had mine just over 1 week and returned it today. It's honestly shockingly bad. It's everything you said and more. I'm glad it's just not me, I thought I was going mad 😂
      I really don't think the clarity is that much of an improvement. I run an RTX4090 with an Intel 13900K and I had to lower the resolution when using the Crystal to get decent FPS (I've seen most reviewers have to do the same). What's the point in that when I can increase the resolution of my Reverb G2 by 160% with very little performance hit and get close to the same resolution I can run the Crystal at?!
      And all this rubbish about wider sweet spot. Your eyes have to be in exactly the right spot to get a decent image, but the Crystal wobbles and moves around so much that it's impossible to keep that position and all your left with is a blurred and contorted image along with CA.
      And if you wear glasses then forget it. When you tighten the rear adjuster anywhere near enough to try and hold the headset in place, then your glasses lenses are pushed right against the headset lenses, because they are so bulbous by design. The facial interface doesn't help matters as it's, quite simply, shite.
      Good luck in changing the battery in the time required. If you've got a gorilla living with you then you may need them for the grip strength required to press the release tabs in. Terrible and clearly cost cutting design.
      I decided in a couple of days that all the faults the headset had, along with the god awful build quality, it just simply was not worth the £1500 I paid, including taxes and shipping, so back it went.
      Pimax made it extremely difficult for me by threatening to charge me the original shipping cost and also for the face gaskets! They then constantly failed to provide me with an RMA code and return address, seeming trying to force me over the 15 day limit for returns. I called them out on it and put in a complaint before they finally provided what I needed.
      Like you, I don't understand why most (not all) of the reviews sing the Crystal's praises.
      I'll stick with my Reverb G2 until they make a PC native Pico 4 with 120 degree FOV 😉🤞

    • @MrNeilRoberts
      @MrNeilRoberts Год назад +1

      @@xjrthirteenthank you ! Saved me a lot of expense and heart ache. 🙏

  • @laserob
    @laserob Год назад +6

    I know we don't speak of the Quest Pro, but it falls in the middle price here and I've been using it for MSFS and it's fantastic. Pancake lenses, eye tracking, wireless. My G2 is collecting dust in the drawer.

    • @yellowflash111
      @yellowflash111 Год назад

      I just picked up a quest after seeing people rave about how good it looks for PCVR (I'm coming from a G2) and the clarity that the pro has surprised the crap out of me! I was expecting to be underwhelmed by it but it has blown me away!

    • @lurchilurch5507
      @lurchilurch5507 Год назад +1

      The lenses are spectacular and I can run GA at 72fps native, no BS repro! Unfortunately the resolution is not really satisfying, especially for details at long distance.

    • @MrStrosty
      @MrStrosty Год назад

      Eye tracking works with MSFS?

    • @lurchilurch5507
      @lurchilurch5507 Год назад

      @@MrStrosty yep

    • @jasonknights9640
      @jasonknights9640 Год назад

      i swapped to pro from g2 now its half price the lenses and fov is so much better the clarity in cockpit is better but u do see the distance loss of resolution but that actually helps with spotting if ur into ww2 overall its a lot nicer headset now you can get it for 700 quid i dont use my g2 now.

  • @hipesjeroen
    @hipesjeroen Год назад

    Much apreciated, but please don't forget 1599 is Exclusive Importduties Vat and taxes. So the final price will be 1900 at best for the buyer in the UK/Europe

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +1

      Good point thanks. I've heard reports from early pre orders that's it around £1700 with import duty tax

    • @hipesjeroen
      @hipesjeroen Год назад +1

      Hi @@VRFlightSimGuy that is on par with 1900-1950 euro so that must be right

  • @Turbinepilot
    @Turbinepilot Год назад +1

    What about the fps and performance between the G2 and the Crystal?

  • @zydawn
    @zydawn Год назад

    Thanks for the comparison, I do have the G2 and pre ordered the crystal a while ago. the only thing is the weight of the thing.

  • @PitViperElapid
    @PitViperElapid Год назад +1

    Do you think the Pimax Crystal could be used with a 2080ti? I understand Id need to dial back the settings but wondering if I could dial them back to something like the reverb quality which is acceptable and be good with that until i upgrade GPU? My reverb died and I want something I can grow with as I upgrade my PC.

  • @letsgobrandon6545
    @letsgobrandon6545 Год назад +1

    Battery in PCVR mode is a huge No Go for me personally. Their CEO explanation is a complete nonsense they could not pull enough joice thru USB's or other measures.

  • @Axacuatl
    @Axacuatl Год назад +4

    So is your Crystal now really capable of wireless PC VR operation (b/c you said it was wireless w/o any further qualification)? I would be very interested in a video on its wireless performance b/c that honestly is a big question mark so far, as imho Pimax failed to enable it for anybody - but you apparently.

    • @pakman184
      @pakman184 Год назад

      His isn't wireless either, he just mentioned it as a feature the Crystal "has" though it's not activated yet.

    • @Axacuatl
      @Axacuatl Год назад

      @@pakman184 Ah… well, that‘s quite courageous. Pimax announced wireless as an optional module for the 8KX too and it never materialized; eye-tracking was even sold and didn‘t work on any acceptable level for 3 years (I read a user allegedly managed to get it somewhat functional recently, but that‘s late to the party). When a couple of normal paying users confirm its working, assume it is; don‘t assume you‘ll get it now or eventually anytime before such news has aired. At least if it is part of the essential features list for you to justify dishing out that kind of money, as it would be for me.

    • @pakman184
      @pakman184 Год назад

      @Dodo Zapp The good news is that we've seen the wireless and eye tracking both already functional on the Crystal, and including a battery and motorized IPD wouldn't make sense if this was just wishful thinking for the future. Pimax is just too much of a clown company to release things on time so we're stuck waiting, but it's more likely it'll arrive than not.

  • @heliosurge9752
    @heliosurge9752 Год назад +1

    Have you considered using a usb3 extra power cable with the 8kX fiber optic cable? Like og cable it will split the usb3 to a usb3 cable snd a usb2 extra power cable

  • @TonyDrecaps
    @TonyDrecaps Год назад

    Great video. Keep the Crystal one's coming

  • @jameslee-pevenhull5087
    @jameslee-pevenhull5087 Год назад

    I bought HP Reverb G2 to get rid of the screen door effect as on HTC Vive.
    I feel loathed to buy anything more until there is AFIS at the smaller fields.
    Until I get 'ATC' clearances at provincial airstrips, MSFS is merely a game.
    When ASOBO get this done, I will upgrade my rig.

  • @msgreene7716
    @msgreene7716 Год назад

    Steve, what program do you use to capture your game play VR footage?

  • @dathyr1
    @dathyr1 6 месяцев назад

    Well it is now April 2024. I am interested in the new coming out soon affordable PIMAX Crystal Light VR headsets. I will wait and see what the video reviews say about them.
    Regular Crystal VR headset is nice, but too expensive for me being retired now.
    I have a HP G2 headset and hate it - sits on the shelf now. The sweet spot is vey small, hard to adjust to my eyes when doing SIM racing. Right now have a Quest 3, much better and enjoy doing SIM racing.
    Thanks for your video. Take care.

  • @ApeX2411
    @ApeX2411 Год назад

    Is it possible to run the Crystal as a PCVR headset only? Or are you always dependent on the battery?

  • @baumgartnernicolas4462
    @baumgartnernicolas4462 Год назад

    thanks agian for your quality analysis....have you tried the map enhancement utility that allows you to inject google maps in msfs ?

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад

      My pleasure. I'm personally not a fan of the google maps injector.

  • @poolhallshark
    @poolhallshark Год назад

    Thanks a lot for this video, Steve 🔥🔥🔥

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад

      My pleasure buddy, thanks for being here. Have a great week!

  • @jpht1964
    @jpht1964 Год назад

    Aerofly 4.0, altough not as spectacular as overhyped MSFS, runs incredibly smooth on my Reverb G2. The sense of being “there” is really amazing. Conclusion? There’s more then MSFS only. (See, XP12, DCS, etc…)

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +1

      Are you telling me this John? If so, may I suggest you check out my videos of said flight sims on the channel 👍

    • @jpht1964
      @jpht1964 Год назад

      @@VRFlightSimGuy This remark is for newcomers, not for an insider like you. I really learnt a lot from your vids though, thanks for that..

  • @gastonice5203
    @gastonice5203 Год назад

    Thanks for another great video, whats your opinion? my pc specs I5 11400F with a RTX 3060 + HP reverb G2.
    main use of Fsim its IFR vatsim airliners.
    Do you think it would be better to chance the pc specs for anotherone better, or upgrade the vr to Pimax?
    thanks Again

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +1

      Thankyou glad you enjoyed it. I'd recommend upgrading your PC first, before your VR headset.

  • @b6s4shelter
    @b6s4shelter Год назад +1

    If you pay $600 for G2 then $1600 for Crystal might be bearable. But if you got a G2 for $300.... then it has to be a whole lot better. maybe when a 5090/6090 can drive 90FPS in VR, then the upgrade will come for me.

  • @HelmutBemboka
    @HelmutBemboka Год назад

    I've uhm'd and ahh'd about this for a bit. In the end I've decided to save my money, (pay off the mortgage), and wait a couple of years and then do a major upgrade with the GTX 5090, 15900 CPU and Pimax 12k (or better) headset. Rather than doing this incremental step now. With the latest settings from your recent Pimax video, I'm getting between 50-55 FPS in most environments (with still good image quality) with my G2 and 3070, which is awesome. I'll live with it a bit longer.

  • @briank3754
    @briank3754 Год назад

    My Varjo is on the way and I just got an email from Pimax that all Crystals ordered before May 31 will be delivered in the next 2 months. Are you still preferring the Crystal to the Aero? I’m keeping my G2 as a travel headset to replace the Quest.

  • @WhereNerdyisCool
    @WhereNerdyisCool Год назад +1

    Talk more about the batteries, how long they last and how everything connects up!

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +1

      Maybe if you say please, I'll think about it.

    • @WhereNerdyisCool
      @WhereNerdyisCool Год назад +1

      @@VRFlightSimGuy I’m surprised you’d post such a snarky and insulting reply to a subscriber. Un-subscribing. There are plenty of other VR channels.

  • @palmTreeeeee
    @palmTreeeeee Год назад

    Have you had to change battery, or does it recharge in the head set after play, when pc is asleep?

  • @thomasbriscoe120
    @thomasbriscoe120 Год назад

    Great video and looking forward to upgrading from the G2 to the Pimax Crystal. Upgraded to a high end rig with the 4090 GPU and 13900 K CPU and the higher clarity with the Crystal is giving me goosebumps😊 In the pre-order release notes from Pimax, it was mentioned that the initial orders to be shipped would not have the software modules enabled for eye tracking and standalone VR mode. Does that mean that I’ll need to get base stations?

  • @TheHiddenTrueSecrets
    @TheHiddenTrueSecrets Год назад

    Love it ❤ i can’t wait to get my hands on the crystal

  • @L_Emir_de_Passy
    @L_Emir_de_Passy Год назад

    Thanks for the video . How does the crystal feel with your motion platform? Given the heavier weight.

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +1

      My pleasure. It feels absolutely fine for me, but keep in mind this may differ for other people.

    • @L_Emir_de_Passy
      @L_Emir_de_Passy Год назад

      @@VRFlightSimGuy thanks

    • @xjrthirteen
      @xjrthirteen Год назад +1

      Mine was unusable as it just wobbled around, bouncing on its rubber band strap and 'after thought' forehead-resting facial interface.
      Not to mention the depth of the rear of the head-strap, which fouls the headrest of your seat (if you use a racing seat or similar) forcing you to either push your head forward or put the back of your seat down to an uncomfortable angle.
      In short, it's very poorly designed.

  • @kitincameraman
    @kitincameraman Год назад +1

    Thanks for doing all this research and testing Steve. And thanks for sharing it with all of us! Now do I upgrade from the G2 to the Crystal? Or instead invest in a DOF Reality H2/3? Decisions, decisions.

    • @DMan-ud6bt
      @DMan-ud6bt Год назад +1

      If I could get the H3 delivered to me for the price of the Crystal, then I would probably already have one. lol
      That said, the Crystal is still overpriced for what you get, IMO.

    • @jaco523
      @jaco523 Год назад +1

      you already have a capable VR headset. add a motion rig!

  • @riverkash
    @riverkash Год назад

    Got a question for you…
    I currently run a quest 2 headset for VR and I and looking to upgrade, I run a RTX 4070 GPU and I use two separate rigs, one for Sim Racing and another for flight sim.
    My question is, if I upgrade to Pimax Crystal or Varjo Aero, can I run two separate cables from my PC to the rigs, (I have the Sockets to do so) can I move the VR to each rig as I do with my quest 2? Hope I have explained this well enough, do either the pimax or varjo require a any form of base station?
    Many thanks, like your videos, keep up the great work.
    Kev.

  • @_Arthur-
    @_Arthur- Год назад

    So far, the performance of my pc ( a 3080ti with Intel i7 12700k) is the limiting factor for visual quality. If I disable AA and motion smoothing the image sharpness of the Reverb G2 is still excellent! But with those turned on, which I must for a smooth experience, the sharpness drops quite much.

    • @MrNeilRoberts
      @MrNeilRoberts Год назад

      Yup … upgrade your PC fella and keep the G2 😊

  • @Falcon900EX
    @Falcon900EX Год назад

    Thanks Steve! How’s the motion smoothing on the Crystal?

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад

      np :) I can't get it to work atm, so still on going....

  • @johnhansson8646
    @johnhansson8646 Год назад

    Nice review. The only nitpick I have is that there is quite a lot of assumption in that all the missing features and bugs in the Pimax will be fixed. Pimax don’t exactly have the best track record in that area. They emphasize a lot jn their product launches but they launch unfinished products that may or may not be finalized jn the future. I hope I am wrong. Don’t misundersrand me - I am trying to make up my mind between the Varjo Aero and the Pimax Crystal, coming from a G2. But the Aero feels like a much more refined product and a safer place to dump the money. But I do like the increased fiv of the Crystal. I guess there isn’t one headset to rule them all 😂

  • @gonefishng
    @gonefishng Год назад

    will crystal work for laptops as well?

  • @MaxPower69
    @MaxPower69 Год назад

    Hey Steve got an email saying preorders are shipping. I know you’re really busy but can you try running the crystal on the AMD system

  • @somethingclever1234
    @somethingclever1234 Год назад

    I've had the Reverb G2 for a while and just received the Pimax Crystal, yes the display is gorgeous but its heavy, awkward, and buggy. IMHO, stay with the G2.

  • @HighAspect
    @HighAspect Год назад

    I have a G2 - quality wise I’ve had quite a few pieces break.
    First the plastic piece for the headstrap broke early on
    Then the plastic on the side broke as well - I ended up needing a new custom head strap
    So I think quality overall was low in that regards

  • @Huddison
    @Huddison Год назад

    I'm still rolling with a Oculus CV1 ☹
    The HP Reverb has been tempting me for the longest time.

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +1

      Hey Huddison nice to see you over here. Nothing wrong with that, I actually regret selling my CV1. Although the Reverb G2 would be a nice upgrade path for you. Take care and keep up the super-duper content :)

    • @Huddison
      @Huddison Год назад

      @@VRFlightSimGuy Thanks Steve :)

  • @melvyns1975
    @melvyns1975 Год назад

    I'd love Varjo to do an audio upgrade where u could use g2 ear floating headphone type speakers..that would be awesome

  • @Hotdognzz
    @Hotdognzz Год назад

    What is the fiber optics 8KX cable ??

  • @SparkySven
    @SparkySven Год назад

    Only thing left is to test the Pimax Crystal on a current gen AMD GPU RX 7900 XT / XTX and do the VR controllers work out the box in X-Plane 12? in MSFS2020 they are crap and will never ever use them and stick to my Logitech MX3 Master mouse. Love the content and Pimax Crystal is my only upgrade owning the G2 V1 now. Just need to find the needed funds

  • @Recon777x
    @Recon777x Год назад

    What about prescription lens inserts? Can you get them for this?

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +1

      Yes, VR Rock have some coming soon. Check my notes for a discount code

  • @nathanm6024
    @nathanm6024 Год назад

    Speaking as a "normie" I have to say the G2, as my first foray into VR was massively disappointing. It hurt my eyes. The lens blur was absurd. The perception of grain was inescapable. The image was dim. The tunnel vision was stunningly strong. In essence, VR reviewers broke my trust with that thing. I love your enthusiasm, but a person has to just have a ton of free time and unconditional love for technology if they are going to get into VR still. I'll catch you guys in another decade... when THE experience IS the flying, not the technological hurdles.

  • @suddenlysolo2170
    @suddenlysolo2170 Год назад

    I have both the HP Reverb G2 and the Valve Index along with an old Rift S. I would like to try the crystal, but I can't afford a 4th headset until I win the lottery

  • @drewer757
    @drewer757 Год назад

    Awesome. Thank you for review as I'm a G2 user always contemplating what is next to get. Think the FOV on the Reality 12k will be worth waiting?

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +1

      No one knows... Yet.

    • @drewer757
      @drewer757 Год назад

      @@VRFlightSimGuy Yeah, I was sold on that headset over a year ago. . .and now am still waiting (for another year. . .?) 😁 It should go well with my RTX5090. 🤣

  • @coffeeguy6673
    @coffeeguy6673 Год назад

    Hi Steve, is the image as clear in the CRYSTAL headset as it is watching this video ? I'm still using my Quest 2 which is ok, but I am always a bit disappointed when I play pcvr games, the exception being Half Life Alyx. Could be time for an upgrade.

    • @Cazanu417
      @Cazanu417 Год назад

      no compression,2x the PPD,edge to edge clarity,local dimming qled panels the difference will be astonishing between crystal and a quest 2 i think even more than the price

  • @Recklessness97
    @Recklessness97 Год назад

    95% of the userbase will not even be able to use the full capabilities of headsets like the Pimax Crystal, Pimax 8K, the upcoming Pimax 12k, and Varjo without extremely degrading the game quality settings and the headsets settings due to not owing giga god tier PC's (RTX 4090/ RTX 3080, 32+ GB of RAM, i7 13700K/ i9 13900k processors) making the Pimax 5K, Reverb G2, or Valve Index better options for 95% of people depending on what you intend to use the headset for.

  • @2getherx650
    @2getherx650 Год назад

    Mmm....actually im not very convincing about the cristal I have the pico 4 and the 4090 and im going to wait 2 more years to see what's on the market..

  • @gorkadelgadomarraco2575
    @gorkadelgadomarraco2575 Год назад

    Crystal with rtx3080 performance ,but wireless... Cause waiting and upgrade with cristal and waiting yaw2 with 360 rotation module

  • @darrennorman187
    @darrennorman187 Год назад

    Great video, looking forward to the G2 settings video, have always struggled to get them right as was always a step beyond you in GPU's but now i own a 4090 FE i can keep up .. for now, also its an interesting debate weather to upgrade from G2 to the Crystal, I too have the money, but theres so many possibilities out there, like the Beyond and Deckard! if the Crystal was just a bit smaller i would def bite, not that i wont, money always burns a whole !!! lol

    • @lurchilurch5507
      @lurchilurch5507 Год назад +3

      Yeah the form factor is SUCH a put off lol, unless you like role playing as a hammerhead shark with a heavy head

    • @HelmutBemboka
      @HelmutBemboka Год назад +1

      Problem with the crystal is that it has the size for a 12k FOV, but you're only getting about half that in the Crystal. So with the Crystal, you're carrying a lot of mass and size around for nothing.

    • @darrennorman187
      @darrennorman187 Год назад

      @@lurchilurch5507 LOL, yeah your not wrong it kind of reminds me of the flying aliens in pitch black !

    • @darrennorman187
      @darrennorman187 Год назад +1

      it is rather big, isnt it, we are almost there with the perfect VR headset, if the beyond did what the crystal does, that would be perfect @@HelmutBemboka

  • @zsavage1820
    @zsavage1820 10 месяцев назад

    I have the REVERB G2 Version 2's and they are great... I don't get the blurry crap...

  • @simondavies9350
    @simondavies9350 Год назад

    Only issue with G2 is when the head strap (plastic) snaps , good luck in finding a replacement, enter a bit of bonding adhesive and bicycle inner tube 🙈 now to wait for the crystal to start shipping. Great comparison though.

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +3

      Thanks Simon. I've heard about this issue, strange that my Reverb G2 (probably being the oldest one ever produced since I was one of the first RUclipsrs to receive one), has been totally flawless. Maybe I just got lucky!

    • @simondavies9350
      @simondavies9350 Год назад +1

      @@VRFlightSimGuy dunno if allowed to mention a certain auction site though Steve for your followers , some guy in the States has a few brand new ones for sale ( £83 with p&p ), I ordered one whilst waiting for the Crystal. Wonder which will arrive first 🤔 , just a heads up in case anyone needs a replacement, keep up the good work 👌

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +1

      Wow that sounds almost too good to be true!

    • @simondavies9350
      @simondavies9350 Год назад

      @@VRFlightSimGuy head strap and face mask I meant not the whole G2 package otherwise I’d have a thriving business 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @123thedman1
      @123thedman1 Год назад

      I use the BOBOVR M2+ with my reverb g2 v2. No problem with the original strap apart from not been able to get it tight to my face. BOBOVR is a tight fit but works perfectly. I just put a little oil and it went in. Tip for anyone that wants to change the strap.

  • @tomduke1297
    @tomduke1297 Год назад

    funny that the crystal is considered to have a large fov. for a longterm pimax user like myself its fov is considered laughably small to the point that not even the incredible clarity can make up for it.
    it is completely bewildering to me that new headsets still get released with divingmask-fov like its 2013.

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад

      Unless you've experienced aspheric lenses, you won't understand. If FOV is your thing that's fine, for most, visual quality comes first.

    • @tomduke1297
      @tomduke1297 Год назад

      @@VRFlightSimGuy sadly i have only ever had fresnel lenses in my headsets, they suck, no question about it.
      but yes, i am completely spoiled in the fov-department since i first experienced the 5k in 2018.
      i actually did a test to see how small an fov i could tolerate when the crystal was announced with 110°, turns out everything below 150° is just not acceptable for me anymore.
      it just feels so claustrophobic and disconnected from the virtual world, i had no idea fov was such a big deal, because i have only experienced 180°fov-VR for the last 5 years.

  • @arride4590
    @arride4590 Год назад

    Important question... Crystal has Displayport?

  • @BLACKSYNTH
    @BLACKSYNTH Год назад

    Wentr from DK2 (awesome) to CV1 (trash) to HCT vive (not bad not great) Pimax crystal is my next. it's been a hot minite!!! time for me to jump back in....

  • @montrose699
    @montrose699 Год назад

    As I have mentioned I will most likely sell the DMAS audio. I ma not sure what it will look like with no audio mounted on the Crystal but I am hoping its doable and I can put the Crystal over my audio headset like I do with my 8k X. A friend of mine also does the same thing with his Reverb G2 and has ordered the Crystal and hoping for the same thing.

  • @Mark_Point
    @Mark_Point Год назад

    We still need the "mostly decent" inside out tracking, display port, aspheric lens headset... and for sub $1000.

  • @arride4590
    @arride4590 Год назад

    Pico 4 has very good visual quality. I wear without facial interface and i get great FOV. Im curious to test the Crystal. I believe its like to look in a monitor.

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад +3

      Crystal is WAY better than the Pico 4 (image quality wise)

    • @arride4590
      @arride4590 Год назад +1

      ​@@VRFlightSimGuy i hope this year i can buy the Crystal. 🤞

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад

      ​@@arride4590 Fingers crossed for you!

    • @stumblinguk
      @stumblinguk Год назад +3

      @@VRFlightSimGuy Any chance you will do a Pico 4 vs Crystal? Pimax did one, but it wasnt very comprehensive

  • @toututu2993
    @toututu2993 Год назад

    I like pcvr but why do they still cost $1k plus?

  • @stevedoetsch
    @stevedoetsch Год назад

    You can get the Pimax 5k super for $600 so why bother with the Reverb?

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад

      The G2 is the better headset, however, we are comparing to the Crystal in this video.

  • @david29bzh
    @david29bzh Год назад

    And compared to pico4?

  • @rook_korean8284
    @rook_korean8284 Год назад

    What about the sterioscipy issues with the pimax?

  • @JOHB25
    @JOHB25 Год назад

    G2 - get the correct gasket and sweet spot grows- please

  • @Lisa-Azra_Broad
    @Lisa-Azra_Broad Год назад

    How about mentioning computer power to fuel both the VR headsets to a reasonable visual quality because it all well a good saying how much better the Crystal is but does it need a 4090 to run that good

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад

      They BOTH need a 4090

    • @Lisa-Azra_Broad
      @Lisa-Azra_Broad Год назад

      ​@@VRFlightSimGuy Very few simmers have 4090s perhaps compare reduced visual quality to maintain performance for both headsets on lower cards eg 4080, 3090, 3080 and XTX cards. If the crystal can only run on a 4090 then I would need a major £2000 hardware upgrade from my 3080 G2 set up along with the crystal purchase price

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад

      @@Lisa-Azra_Broad I am well aware of that, I'm currently testing an RTX 4070 based system with the Crystal, so stay tuned. But obviously, it's impossible for me to test every PC config.

    • @Lisa-Azra_Broad
      @Lisa-Azra_Broad Год назад

      @@VRFlightSimGuy testing with a 4070 will be interesting, will look out for that vid thanks

  • @justcommenting4981
    @justcommenting4981 Год назад

    Oh my god. It DOES have eye tracking? Wtf? I completely thought this headset was bullshit when they announced the feature set a few years ago. Looking forward to see how software and stuff plays out over the next year or so. Might actually get this thing. Would be nice to not have a battery next to my face though. Quite impressive.

  • @olyar15
    @olyar15 Год назад +1

    The G2 has an AC adapter. Someone needs to develop one for the Crystal.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork Год назад

      They eliminated the heavier AC cable to headset and the need to have to plug in to the wall by using the existing battery that is also a counterweight. I don't understand how that is not a huge win. Two hot swappable batteries that take 10 sec to switch every 4 hours and a lighter feeling headset. You won't want to go back.

    • @olyar15
      @olyar15 Год назад

      @@laartwork because batteries degrade and eventually need to be replaced. An AC adapter can still be shaped and weighted to be like the battery, thereby still acting like a counterweight. And you already have a cable running from the headset, so another one isn’t a big deal.

  • @shanenicholson94
    @shanenicholson94 Год назад

    I absolutely loved the VR experience but my 3070ti, intel 7 10th gen simply can't run the sim in VR at an acceptable standard... You really need an RTX 40's to run it good...

    • @HelmutBemboka
      @HelmutBemboka Год назад

      I use a 3070 with a 13900 CPU and it works great with the G2.

  • @jungleboy1
    @jungleboy1 Год назад

    you know what, my aim is to get a 4090...... i dont think i can afford another £2k on a VR headset lol. The 4090 itself allows me to crank up settings on lower res VR e.g. Q2 and that would probably keep me happy lol.

  • @2ndLastJedi
    @2ndLastJedi Год назад

    Why cant the G2 be modded to get some better non frenzel lenses?

  • @christopherpope1800
    @christopherpope1800 Год назад

    You and your videos Steve...my wallets shaking again.

  • @MikeInExile
    @MikeInExile Год назад

    >>>> "A Worthy UPGRADE?"
    Yes.
    Any questions? ;-)

  • @ciaranmchugh4246
    @ciaranmchugh4246 Год назад

    Any chance of a high end settings guide?

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy  Год назад

      Yes, I posted it on Friday. Make sure you are subbed so you don't miss out.

  • @CSOCSO
    @CSOCSO Год назад

    wish u included better thru the lens footages thats more comparable

  • @clayton4115
    @clayton4115 Год назад

    RG2 is totally blurry! cannot see the fmc keyboard letters clearly, not as good as you keep going on about it!

  • @tasmania9576
    @tasmania9576 Год назад +1

    😎Varjo

  • @iainjeffrey1210
    @iainjeffrey1210 Год назад

    How do I join your discord server?