VARJO AERO vs PIMAX CRYSTAL - Which one is BEST? LET'S SETTLE THIS! MSFS full flight COMPARISON
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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great video, Steve! I’m an 8kx user and am patiently waiting for the 12k. the fact that the crystal and 12k share many design concepts, this is very encouraging.
Same here. I might get the crystal while I wait though… the 12k could be awhile!
Same boat. I'm also a bit worried to use my 8KX... if it fails before the 12K trade-in program starts? Ya... Pimax created an unfair situation.
@@stevetb7777 Same here, but I paid too much for 8kx not to use it. I think if my 8KX fails before they launch 12K with trade in I'll give them an earful. They were supposed to launch that headset in 2022 after all.
@@infiniteyep I think giving them an earful will result in a partial credit and nothing more. This is why I'm going to be a stinker about this topic. We have to team up and be proactive and get them to address this now. Maybe you won't have a problem but no doubt many people WILL. Together we can win, lol.
Be sure you check out the Somnium VR1 too..
G2 v Crystal would be great as its an area lots of people will see as their next possible progression. Be great to know what to expect.
why... Of course Crystal easily beats it.
Much newer, much more expensive. It's heavier. Idk of any other downside
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j yes we already know the crystal beats the g2, but we still would like a detailed comparison as most people will be upgrading from the g2 and will be familiar with it.
@@TheHiddenTrueSecrets What is there to compare? The crystal has a 90hz display native, DFR, local dimming, better performeance, higher res display, bigger FOV, has a standalone mode, has the ability to go wireless in the future, interchangable lenses... All at the cost of $1600.
So if you think that all that is worth the extra $1000... then get it.
Crystal completely dominated the G2. It's not even close.
Very interesting to watch with the 50% price drop of the Varjo!
Great video. Love the idea to do upgrade comparison video for VR flyers coming from a G2 or 8Kx to the Crystal. Keep this super content coming. You are influencing me what to get next because of objectivity and honesty what you alway bring
Loving your Crystal content. Sometimes walls cause problems for inside out, especially blank walls. I've seen people with green screens having problems and they put hash marks on the wall to give the cameras something to "see" that breaks up the image. You might improve tracking by putting up a poster/picture, something that provides something for tracking to lock on.
Brilliant advice thankyou!
I didn't know this thanks for the info
Would IR transmitters work too? I have one for my Oculus to see in a dark room, curious if the inside out for the Crystal would work the same way.
I know I complain a lot about my varjo, but I don't hate it. I just haven't gotten to that point to where I am saying, okay, this is good enough. I'm hoping, and it's looking like the crystal will check the major boxes for me.
I think another really important mention is you are running a TOP TOP TIER computer the best of the best home computers and for the common folk its hard to afford something like that. So if you have anything less then a 4090 GPU and something like the high end CPU you must think twice on what type or performance you will be getting and how much of higher resolution you will be able to achieve. You will not get the same results in frame rates and high visuals as this youtuber. There will definitely be a FPS difference and some visual qualities and you will not be able to use the Crystal at its full performance. So far as of May 5th/2023 as I can see no RUclipsr has done a long serious review with anything less then a 4090. If anyone has seen any RUclipsr with a 30 series or 20 series card doing a FPS and Visual review in MSFS or something simular please let me know because I think this is a really important mention before a purchase of a high end VR headset.
I'll be testing the Crystal with a 4070 soon, which is similar to a 3080 in terms of performance :)
Disco-VR you tube channel used a 3090 ti and a 3080.
The video the world has been waiting for!
😅
As an Aero owner, I want much more horizontal fov before I look at changing again.
A very useful vid 👍
You mean vertical fov
@@x32i77 no, I mean horizontal. As Steve says in the vid, there’s plenty of vertical. I would like to see human eye horizontal fov instead of the scuba mask like view we have currently
@@UkDave3856 then wait for the 12k 🙂
Picked up a Stormforce i9-139000k RTX4090 machine using your discount the other day as they've also dropped the price a bit and it was delivered this afternoon, so many thanks. Can't wait to get it going so thanks for all your videos that convinced me to upgrade. Now I just need to upgrade my Q2 to maybe a Crystal?
If I have to choose between build-, softwarequality and a company who has proven itself as the number one in flight sims on one side and better imagequality (FOV, color and deeper black) on the other side, I'll always go with the former. Price doesn't affect me at all and in terms of audio, I like to fly with sound from my Klipsch speaker or with my snnheiser headphones, so no disadvantage in my books for the Aero. But I can understand the hype about the Crystal, it's new, it's shiny and FOV does matter. So I ordered a Varjo Aero last week and who knows, if PIMAX does it's homework, mabe in a year or two I'll switch to the Crystal. My gut instincts tell me, Crystal isn't there yet.
Thanks for the awesome review though and I'm looking forward to the DCS-review because this will be my number one game to use with the VR.....
My aero is en route and I'm having similar thoughts as you regarding the Crystal. Pimax has a lot to prove still. I am going to be super annoyed if it releases and is incredible and runs flawlessly though :D
I’ll personally always pick specs over build quality, as the specs is what you experience while in vr ie: immersion and visualls
Since the price drop on the Aero, does this change your opinion of this video? Would the Aero now be the better choice for someone coming from the G2, or would you still pick the Crystal?
Hi Steve,
excellent fair comparison. Well done 👍.
Have a nice weekend and thank you very much my friend.
Take care.
Thanks for taking the time out to watch this one mate, I appreciate it's a long one! Have a restful weekend.
Great comparison Steve. Both headsets impress me but the fact that you once did a 7 hour session is the thing that really made me smile.
6:30 It's not necessarily the tracking algorithm - it's most likely the fact that the tracking cameras are looking at a blank, plain white wall. Try hanging a picture or a poster on that wall and I think you'll find that your tracking issues will go away simply because the cameras will have something more substantial to lock onto. For best results, be sure the poster is _Flight Simulator_ related! ;-)
Wonderful video, I think you nailed everything - very thorough! Appreciate the G2 comparison with the Crystal further down the line. Crystal is more tempting than ever! Thanks again!
Thanks David much appreciated 😊
Love your content! I'll be upgrading from my trusty old Index. I'm very interested in how the Crystal performs on mid-range hardware, e.g. a 3080, especially in DCS. Would be great if you could make a video on that as well!
3080 midrange? lol
@@spitfireinvasiontrue, for high end vr headset a 3080 is probably low end 😂
Lol we're in the same boat then. I also got the index on day 1, missed the train for HP reverb G2 and now researching the next HMD (which would probably require upgrading my 3080). The *Crystal/Aero/Beyond* comparison ATM reminds me of the *Vive/Rift* both had pros/cons until the *Index* got the best of the 2 worlds (lighthouse tracking + topnotch controllers). I will be waiting patiently for the *Deckard* which to decide between Deckard/Crystal
Do you have both at 100% resolution? The more you turn the resolution down the more the distance will degrade.
Great video as always😀.
You mentioned doing some comparisons for us upgraders e.g G2 to Crystal. If you do, it would also be interesting to see how the Crystal performs on lower specs 3080ish. (I know🙄, not exactly low spec, just lower😀)
I suspect that a Crystal upgrade will also need a GPU upgrade.
Yes please! Remember few of us sport a 40XX card. Even a 3090 benchmark would greatly help.
On the audio, I'm quite puzzled by why people are quite puzzled about Varjo's audio choices lol. As a VATSIMer I actually prefer using my own audio solution. The sim audio comes out my main sound system speakers, which makes it sound more real, and then I use headphones with a mic for ATC.
Thought a clear winner would emerge from this, but doesn’t seem to be the case! Both seem to be incredible headsets and both without their flaws. For me I think it’s more about not rushing into either and continuing to research and maybe see how your Crystal holds up over say 4-6months of use by ‘Future Steve’ (PS, can you please ask future Steve for the lotto numbers for me, so I can buy both headsets instead?). Lastly, a video of this length and editing would take a good chunk of your day, so I’d really like to thank Melissa and Colin for sharing you with the VR community - those two are very understanding! 👧🏼🐶🦴
Thanks mate, you are absolutely right, only time will tell now if this can live up to the abuse the Aero has. As for Melissa, she said ''it's my pleasure, at least it gives me some peace and quiet' lol
@@VRFlightSimGuy yup, surprised that the Aero hasn’t taken out a DVPO on you….Good to know M&C know they are appreciated too!
I can only dream of owning either of these headsets. Steve, I'm living my dreams through you, son! 😂Love to Colin and the guys xx
Thanks Alex, Colin, Monty and Doris send their regards :D
Great analysis. I'm new to VR. Old armchair pilot looking to get back into the game. Leaning toward the crystal. Never heard of aero before watching this video. So thank you for that. If I land on the crystal I will definitely use your link to preorder. You deserve the credit for an excellent comparative review.
Thankyou Greg that really means a lot!
What about foveated rendering? I believe both of them have it and assume it can have a big impact on frame rates. Thanks
8kx vs crystal please! Love the videos!
Thanks so much, that would be a great comparison (duly noted) :)
Thanks for the comparison, Steve. Very informative.
Looking forward to your videos in DCS and G2 comparison (as this is the headset I'm upgrading from)
That was a nice, chill Friday flight! You helped me decide to preorder the Crystal.
I think it would be good to use these on a rig that most people have not a 4090 but maybe a 30 series as this will be where the majority of users sit thought ?
I’m beta testing the crystal on an I9900 with a 3090. So far it seems to be not much more demanding than my 8kx.
The reason I am about to buy an Aero is DFR in DCS. They have it working and people are reporting big improvements in FPS so much so that the settings can almost be maxed out on a strong PC. I am looking forward to your DCS video on the crystal.
I have a video showing DFR in DCS on the channel. Let's hope the Crystal is supported soon.
@@VRFlightSimGuy That video is awesome as well; makes me want the Aero even more. At this rate, I may have to buy the Crystal also once DFR is supported and there is a track record for the Crystal. If I had a crystal ball, I would love to know when the next Varjo headset is coming out and when the Deckard will arrive.
Excellent video Steve. I savoured every second of it. Such amazing tech for flight simmers. Hopefully it will help prod MSFS to put a bit more effort into VR.
Thanks Phil, I initially wasn't intending to make this video so long, but I soon realised there's just so many factors to highlight with both of these headsets. For now, I'd say you are all good with the Aero. Take care :)
Thank you for the video. A couple inaccuracies- you said that the Aero wins because base station tracking is more accurate. You can use either base stations or inside-out tracking on the Crystal so the Aero does not win this category.
The biggest noticable difference between base station tracking and inside out tracking is that when in the cockpit and moving around, the internal sensor keeps keeps your view centered, whereas the base stations allow you to move your head outside of the cockpit and the cockpit stationary, so base stations feels much more realistic.
Until the steam vr face plate is here, this is accurate for those who will order the Crystal, since this is an addon. Thanks for watching!
Outstanding, very fair review! Thanks!
Thankyou so much 🙏
Does anyone know, from where the Crystal will be shipped to UK or EU? Important point as toll and VAT would add to the origional price.
Does anyone know?
Great that your going to give us a set up guide. Im on the pre order Thank you
Great stuff Steve - this is what we wanted - well navigated!
I prefer the Aero's clarity over the fov. I have both and decided to keep the 8kx and see if the 12k ever gets produced for a trade in.
Thanks for the roundup Steve!
It matches what id expect - because they are the same resolution but the crystal is wider FOV, the aero is slightly better in absolute sharpness - thats what youre seeing in "far off distance" - thats where absolute resolution shows up.
However, in nearer objects and overall, the other contributors to image quality (CA, colours, blacks, contrast, FOV, binocular overlap), and particularly binocular overlap (in the distance each eye is seeing almost the same image, so ultimate resolution of the headset and your better eye's visual acuity ultimately determine detail. On nearer objects, each eye is getting a different perspective so your brain has two sets of information about objects, one from each eye, in the binocular overlap area, contributing to a greater sense of detail. Since the crystal has a better binocular overlap than the aero, your brain ends up with more visual information to utilise for overlapped objects, which feels like greater clarity), contribute to a greater sense of detail.
This makes sense and exactly what i expected.
The rest of the information youve provided is extremely useful too, thankyou!
For me the tricky bit is, im coming from a Varjo VR3, which although most of the time is just a less bright aero, when those focus displays ARE on, they are 70ppd and noticeably sharper than anything else out there for distance detail.
I wish more games supported the focus displays, particularly microsoft flight sim 2020, as then it would be a no brainer.
Alas, only really DCS works with it and it makes my next upgrade path tricky
Hi Steve,
Why have you seriously not reviewed the Quest Pro?
the Quest Pro is a mighty fine VR all-rounder with fantastic pancake lenses, QLED panels & wonderful software - great clarity & colours!
& works great with 3090…
I have tried the Quest Pro, I just haven't made a video about it. For me, I was REALLY impressed with the lenses, but didn't like the comfort and SDE. The pass through was also very lack lustre. Hopefully that's been improved now in software though.
Aero can be had at a 15% discount until the end of May. Still more expensive than the Chrystal, particularly as I’d need to pick up a base station as well. On the plus side I could get the Aero fairly quickly while I’m guessing is I reserved a preorder for the Chrystal today it would be a couple of months, if not half a year before I get the Chrystal. Another plus for the Aero is the quality of the headset and the level of support Varjo provides. I’ve heard conflicting reports of Pimax’s quality and support
Crystal, not Chrystal.
Great Job as always Steve. I'm super interested to see if I have the same feelings you do once I try it. I kind of expected to have to fight the software and all that to maximize performance, so I'll at least be ready for the challenge when it comes. If you get a chance, I'd love to hear your experience in Elite Dangerous with the Local Dimming. You don't need to do a whole video on it... just reply how it looks if you are ever able to tear yourself away for FS2020 :) Keep up the great work on the series!
Thanks Mark :) That's a great suggestion, I've been meaning to test both Star wars squadrons and Elite Dangerous very soon. I'm not sure whether I'll make a video about it yet, but either way, I will be sure to let you know my experiences. Take care!
As someone who needs glasses to see things clearly, can I wear my specs and still use the Crystal? I have no trouble wearing specs with my Vive or Quest, but can I do it with the Crystal or would I need prescription lenses?
Steve, would you recommend the Crystal for those that already own the Aero? I have a great VR setup, but even the Aero was a bit of a let down. For me, the chromatic aberration is terrible, and really hurts the clarity of the Aero. The crystal and 12K have me interested, and considering a switch. I also still feel Aero colors are a bit I think washed out and long range sight in MSFS is hazy or slightly foggy.
Do you think the crystal worth the change from an Aero?
Generally I'd say mo, but given the areas you have mentioned, you may well enjoy the Crystal a lot more.
The G2 audio is noticeably better than the Crystals DMAS. Kinda weird to not notice that, but DMAS is clearly second best.
Index / G2 have the same speakers.
As a no VR user at this moment, all the videos I've watched the last few days are making it harder and harder to actually chose one. I mean, I've watched your videos for the G2, a mid range headset but the problem is that in Sweden it's about $900 for a G2. My question is, how does 8K and those other headset compare to the Crystal? Perhaps I should add a few hundred $ and buy the Crystal directly? The Aero is is about $3k here and I feel like it's a bit too much.
Can you wear glasses to the Primax Crystal?
The real question is, if you already have the Varjo Aero, is getting the Crystal worth it? Also, will the 12K be better than the Crystal and is the Crystal good enough to get while waiting for the 12K? I know, I know...first world problems.
Hi how is the crystal for movie watching. It must be amazing right and the first headset worth serious movie watching in? The closest one I've come to enjoying movies is the Pico 4, but Graaa... still screen door.
I've been surprised with vr that care always had to be taken with base station locations. I get why mounting in corners of the ceiling etc would be nicest. But with the right technology (not used today) you would think any fixed location could be used for triangulation. I'm sure it's a cost thing where the easier to engineer but more time consuming to mount wins out.
I understand your choice concerning longevity. I feel the same way about my Reverb G2. I preordered it & waited months for it to arrive. Now, with my 4090, it’s excellent, still performing flawlessly. I won’t buy another headset unless all the features of the Crystal are included plus diopter adjustment is a must for me.
Is the “sweet spot” a concern between the Aero & Crystal? Also does changing the lenses in the Crystal affect the prescription lenses?
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for this video and the extremely detailed comparison, amazing work. One thing that would have been worth mentioning is that even though it's not working already afaik, the Crystal has eye tracking, that at some point could improve performance.
My pleasure, thankyou for the kind words :)
Great video Steve. - I got on the pre-order train last week and was told to expect 3 months before it's my turn.
I hope you get it sooner!
The dragon rising 😳
I preordered the Crystal a few days again. But, with the Aero now $300 off I’m going to get that instead. Had my eye on the Aero for quite some time and I believe the user experience and build quality will be much better with the Aero. I tried a Pimax a couple years ago and was not impressed. The big turn off with the Aero not so much the cost of the Aero, but the cost of the Aero + tracking/controllers. Now at least I can get the Aero with base stations and controllers for well under $2500. Still not cheap, but based on the reviews I see I think it will be a worthy upgrade from the G2.
Great comparison Steve! I would love to personally experience the Crystal but for now I will stick to the AERO.
Great video thanks for the hard work! 😊
Wonder how the crystal would work with an 3080ti gfx card?
My pleasure buddy... and thank YOU for watching. It means a great deal to me. Have a fab weekend!
Great job as usual, hopefully you can do a comparison in IL-2, especially spotting at distance!
Great comparison, I also like the cooling fan in the varjo. I sometimes wish it would come on straight away as it defogs my left lense.... Just the left for some reason lol. It's great to see competition from pimax to compete with the varjo at its lower price point. All good for pushing vr forward
It blows directly into my eyes, I don't like it.
4090ti and the pimax c dream machine! Lol. Until 4090ti is out and bug free, going for it! Saving up now!
Sounds like a lot of R&D and engineering went into this headset, which I imagine is what makes this headset cost so much. I can imagine that the display panels are the most expensive item in the bill of materials. With the loss of the Reverb, the sub $1k headset clarity disparity gap puts pressure on stepping up into these high end ones. I wonder how many years away from the RayBan with side blinders sized VR headset, with this sort of clarity, we are. If that hit the market at sub $500, I would think VR adaptation would skyrocket, which should keep downward pressure of pricing. All that said, I would be a gluten for punishment to continue using my Reverb G2 and not upgrading to the Crystal.
Thanks for this video. Answered my questions exactly.
My absolute pleasure :)
Would love to see how these headsets truly perform in a taxing environment like at Heathrow or LAX with full traffic in a PMDG or Fenix.
Boom! That’s the comparison we need, not silly GA aircraft in butt Fcuk nowhere
Wireless PCVR with the crystal should be a lot of fun. Maybe wifi 6e or 7 will greatly reduce the image degradation as well. I'm not going to start a whole new standalone game library with the Crystal my meta library is huge.
7:00 With respect to outside-in tracking - it isn't perfect! Outside-in tracking can definitely have some image 'jitter' associated with it. Most people don't seem to notice it, but it drives **me** nuts! The jitter isn't that noticeable or obvious while the headset is being used, but take the headset off and lay it down on a table or desk next to you, and the jitter becomes very obvious in the VR image mirrored to your monitor. Inside-out tracking doesn't seem to exhibit that behavior. Also with outside-in tracking, one has to be cognizant of mirrors and/or shiny object in the room which can definitely 'spoof' the tracking. (Don't ask me how I know that!) Given a choice between outside-in or inside-out tracking, for flight simming, I'll take inside-out tracking every time!
Edit/update: I'm using a Pimax 8KX headset, and I solved the image 'jitter' issue by replacing the Lighthouse 2.0 base station that I was using with an older model Lighthouse 1.0 base station. The small amount of 'jitter' that was caused by the Lighthouse 2.0 doesn't seem to be a bother for a lot of people, but I'm getting ready to bring a DOF P6 motion rig online, and don't want to take a chance on the instability of the 8KX and Lighthouse 2.0 combination introducing instabilities (jitters) into the motion compensation of the P6 itself!
So *my* recommendation for anyone using or considering a Pimax 8KX headset, is to use the older 1.0 Lighthouse and _not_ the new 2.0 version. Heck, you'll even save some money too! 🙂
I always really appreciate your reviews, thanks soo much for putting out the VR content. The Pimax Crystal looks very impressive and the headset doesn't look as gaudy which was a turn off for me. I'll probably stick with the Aero since it's kind of close in performance but it's good to have competition to keep moving the bar forward.
How bad is the Fov of Aero? that is the only thing that stops me from pulling the trigger.
I went from a Valve Index to the Varjo Aero and at first it was quite noticeable, mainly the vertical field of view but after having for a year now it's pretty normal. Even in the beginning the difference in detail I could see from the Aero was just soo much better it felt worth the slight sacrifice in FOV@@resset100
Thanks for the comparison. Can I ask how long a Pimax crystal battery lasts? I've also heard the batteries are 'hot swappable' so does that mean your application/game will keep running while you swap the battery or does the PC detect a disconnect during swap? Cheers.
Thanks for a great comparison. Could you show some through the lens views?
Thanks for sharing, but the Aero (software) is not as stable and as reliable as you say. For example, I very often have issues with its Virtual Desktop and the SteamVR integration (which is prerequisite for using the Aero). SteamVR crashes often and the Aero Virtual Desktop fails to register the laser pointer/controller, the mouse pointer disappears (despite the controllers working fine) and there is nothing more you can do in VR; you have to take off the mask and use your computer monitor to restart/reset the Varjo Base and restart SteamVR.
Does eye tracked foveated rendering work with open xr? This is a game changer for my Quest Pro in ACC.
JUST ORDERED with your link. Can’t wait.
Thankyou so much 🙏
thx Steve for this comparison. Very interesting. But I will stay on my aero, because first: I like the company and the guys in Helsinki, second, the crystal is too big and made by china ;)
Me too.. dont trust pimax at all. Chinese crap. Crap quality, poorly thought out. Display might be good but that doesn't make up for weight, software, comfort, need for battery and b's marketing from pimax
Excellent video, Steve 🙂 TC !
Amazing this Crystal but I Want a Pimax 12k for a Big-Fov 👍🏻😇😇
Thank you very much for this vidéo 👍🏻👍🏻
Aplushhsss 😇👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Steve! Enjoyable video, as always 😊 I will stick with my Aero for the time being, I think the difference between the two is not big enough. But the Crystal raises the bar another notch, so I‘m very curious what will be available in a year or two. In the meantime, my money will most likely go into a motion rig (now that MC has come)
Thanks mate! Ordered crystal canr wait!
Hi, thanks for video, how do you record HMD view ? thanks
Solid video Steve, the Crystal does seem pretty appealing. It would cost me around £900 less than the Aero for better visuals. I'm going to try and resist though, I need to make sensible decisions for my wallet in 2023.
Get the crystal, it's next level
Pimax Crystal = Buyer be Ware: I have had so much trouble with the Pimax, having firstly wated 2 moths for delivery when I was assured one month, now the set won’t work properly despite having spent many hours of my own time and almost a full day with a Pimax technician remote and still no results. Further it is plain to see that the product is very cheaply constructed, clips a very week and with continued use this will lead to quick degradation and product failure. Pimax has added a lot of feature into this device, remember if it sounds to good to be true it usually is, lots of things to go wrong.
Thank you very much Steve!!!🎉🎉🎉
Pleasure Andy, have a great weekend!
@@VRFlightSimGuy Thanks Steve, you too! Just a thought: Do you plan an Intel vs AMD Video? Very curios about the new 7000 x3d series :)
flight sim guy, setup guide for 4090 would immensely be appreciated, thanks bro love your videos
Very good video Steve liked that. With regard to the tracking when you looked at the wall is the wall plain white? If so place a poster on the wall so the tracking can differentiate.
Regarding the red shift and chromatic abhoration in the Aero, not sure about that as I've never experienced it.
Really good to see Pimax making such positive strides.
Still waiting on a DC's review with crystal as that for me is my staple of gaming and whether the performance can be gained for PvP combat and what it looks like be interesting how the shimmering is as I can not get rid of it I mean it's only really noticeable on the ground at take off and distance but it is there. G2 gets 90fps I'm wondering mostly if I can lower the graphics a little and still get the same out the crystal but with nice resolution and bit better fov or weather I'm living in dream land 😂
The shimmering will not completely go away in DCS, regardless of headset. It is due to the current DCS engine, not the VR we are using.
What's the plane BTW? Nice, open view for flying in VR.
Another excellent video, Tks much!
Just to add, have 62 hours with Aero and I have not tweaked in 20 odd hours - solid with no issues - happy camper!! 😅
Keep thr crystal impressions coming!
I wonder if the clarity between the 2 has to do with a focal point. Maybe crystals is a little closer. Maybe it would change with DFR?
unfortuanally i had to return the aero becuase it did not work out with my glasses i had eye strain and blurry picture so hopefully the crystal will be better i already preordered in march and how much better is the fov compaired to the reverb g2
Were lens inserts not an option? Mine snap right in and don't have to worry about comfort with my glasses.
@@JimBob1937 i had them and still eye strain
@@richardPalmisano , interesting. Only other thing I can think of is maybe the IPD was setting itself incorrectly. Well, either way, hopefully the Crystal works better for you.
yeah thanks bro cant wait lol
Colors are important. Thanx again Steve. Good work. 😊
Cheers mate, have a fab weekend!
@@VRFlightSimGuy You too my friend. Ride that putt putt!
Yes G2 vs crystal please. Although im not going to upgrade prob because that battery thing sounds like it would really annoy me.
Is the floating audio included with the Crystal headset? I don't see any options on the Pimax website available, just the preorder for the headset itself?
Damn you....only recently upgraded to the G2 coz of you and now you show us more eye candy, off to get beer to sulk !!! 😂
lol sorry Tony, although to be fair the G2 is an AMAZING headset. I'll have more on the channel using it soon!
Thanks! Crystal pre ordered using your link!
Thankyou so much!
Damn...Varjo blown out of the water. Truth is they were sleeping on top of their dominance and didn't stay ahead of the competition.
No I think it’s prob because Pimax is comparing to a 2 year old Varjo, Varjo been dominating 2 years straight, Varjo Aero 2 will not be far now, competition is always great for the consumers, let’s be real it’s about time somebody claimed the crown off 2 year old hardware lol
The headset itself is worthless if the software and support are garbage. We'll see.
@@SURG3NT Hence they were asleep on the competition. They could have made so many improvements to the software but chose not to.
@@JM1701ABCD mate, there software is still leaps ahead of the 2023 Pimax software, that’s on thing Varjo is top tier, hopefully Pimax will get better over time, hopefully before Varjo 2 is announced
Eh....they could have updated the software to improve colors, could have introduce local dimming....etc....but they didn't .
The subtle disadvantage of the crystal is that you still cannot buy it..but well anyways thanks for the comparison. Likely will try it against my aero asap..as the fov argument got me..and hurts a bit
Here's what you do. You load up the game and do the same exact thing in the Aero, and then Repeat in the Crystal. You split your video, left side Aero, Right side Crystal.
You show an FPS meter and Frame time info for each (at minimum).
Your video is only 10-12 minutes long.
You make it a point to focus in on various areas where there's notable difference in both.
You let the viewer decide.
Thanks for making your videos, but honestly, the above format would be much more interesting to me to see that side/side comparison.
I currently have the HP Reverb G2, so a comparison with that would be great to see.
Thanks Steve, if i didn't have an Aero then the crystal would probably be what i would go for, however its a motion rig I'm saving for now.😂
It's probably already been noted, but the reason the crystal is going to function untethered is an incidental bonus. The processor requirements were such that in order to run everything else (i.e. eye tracking), it was also powerful enough to run the displays. There is no hardware added to "make it" wireless. This made me feel better about it.
also I recommend that you list all the parameters that you where using with both headset. I is a long time that you didn't shown the current settings on the Aero ( msfs, openxr, nvidia etc...)
Thanks again for your great reviews! I don't know if its asked before, but can you wear glasses in this headset?
Hi Steve do you only use one aero base station. For flight Sim .
If only the crystal didn't have this battery dependency on PC I'd be fully on board with getting one. May wait to see if an Aero 2 comes out with better FOV and see what the deckard specs are
I'd be torn choosing between the cable pain of varjo over the bulky weight pain of pimax . Also how much more for controllers and bay stations for varjo?
exactly the same for the Pimax if you were to go with the base station route. about 500$ from steam store. In essence putting them both at almost exactly the same price point.