We disagree on Spike in S5 quite a lot!

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
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  • @sloanekuria3249
    @sloanekuria3249 3 месяца назад

    The kiss was a reward, and it was pretty gross. I love the show for nostalgia reasons but I also don't believe in death of the author - a Nice Guy can't write women. Sorry not sorry.

    • @RevisitingTheBuffyverse-yp3ey
      @RevisitingTheBuffyverse-yp3ey  3 месяца назад +1

      @@sloanekuria3249 True, but there are female writers on the show. There are flaws in some of the writing later, including in the Spuffy stuff. But for a show from the 90s/early 2000s it is very progressive. Me and Rachel disagree on some of the Spike stuff later on but we both agree that the core statement of the show, a typical, blonde haired girl subverting the stereotype still works even all these years later.

    • @sloanekuria3249
      @sloanekuria3249 2 месяца назад +1

      @@RevisitingTheBuffyverse-yp3ey Like I said, I do love the show. There's less creep-driven media available today which really highlights how the Nice Guy stuff in BTVS falls extremely short (eg: Xander, from the beginning), but the little girl in the baseball game during the finale still gets me every time. Some good messaging despite the glaring flaws, I do agree with that, and the Whedonesque need to make everything a surprising reversal (or double reversal) is something I highly value in narrative fiction of all kinds.
      Not to mention the unambivalent centering of gay women - again, borderline male-gazey (AND the very tired "bring out your gays" trope) but unquestionably well-intentioned and better than just about anything else on network tv in the 90s.

    • @RevisitingTheBuffyverse-yp3ey
      @RevisitingTheBuffyverse-yp3ey  2 месяца назад +1

      @@sloanekuria3249 Thanks for your thoughts.